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Post by MissGriss on Jan 11, 2019 1:34:57 GMT
Yeah. Sounds like things went pretty weird at the end there. And it really is an ending we haven't seen before. I'm not sure how spoiled people want to be. I'm happy to say what I've heard, but I don't know if people want to start the thread by jumping right to the outcome. Spoil me Baby Beans already spilled. See fifth post down from the top of the page.
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Post by tapper01 on Jan 11, 2019 2:24:56 GMT
Thanks,
Read it after I posted.
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Post by Arielflies on Jan 14, 2019 6:05:26 GMT
I got the feeling from interviews and preview that when he jumped over the fence and ran, it wasn't at the Finale, but slightly earlier. Also that his F1 is the one who walked out and after filming he chased her down with camera crew to "propose" a dating period, no engagement. We'll see, I guess.
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 14, 2019 6:43:38 GMT
I got the feeling from interviews and preview that when he jumped over the fence and ran, it wasn't at the Finale, but slightly earlier. Also that his F1 is the one who walked out and after filming he chased her down with camera crew to "propose" a dating period, no engagement. We'll see, I guess. I think you're correct..
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Jan 14, 2019 18:30:54 GMT
I've read they want to date first.
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Post by FannyMare on Jan 14, 2019 19:12:19 GMT
I've read they want to date first. Nothing wrong with that, we don't need everyone to propose at the end
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Post by Mikesgirl on Jan 14, 2019 23:39:48 GMT
Maybe he jumped over the fence to get away from the camera's, they do get in the face at such moments. I don't understand why Cassie didnt say something while on their Fantasy date? Perhaps she may have realized then, that he may not be her "person" and just wanted out. (Of course we don't even know if this is just all baloney, producer driven drama.) But, the jumping over the fence was amazing! ......and not contrived. So, my bet is he was feeling hurt and embarrassed and wanted to get away from the camera's/producer/show. I loved his exit! Cassie may or may not be "dating" Colton, we will have to wait and see what happens at FRC. I won't be watching.... until it is time for fantasy dates. That episode is worth watching just for that fence jump. My guess is that he wasn't much interested in the other two all along, they were just "place-card holders" until he could get to the end with Cassie.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 2, 2019 18:56:25 GMT
Evidently, Colton went through FD #1 and then Cassie's date (FD #2) at which point he told the producers he didn't want to go any further. Ostensibly, he had settled on Cassie. He went and let the other 2 girls go. Meanwhile, Chris Harrison got the unpleasant job of informing Colton that Cassie felt she was too young, she didn't want to be engaged, and she had left the show, leaving Colton with no one let alone his chosen. This is the point at which we see a very distraught Colton say, "I am done," leap the fence, and strike a trot into the dark, leaving Chris Harrison to try to find him, and giving us some new excitement - although I do feel sorry for Colton because evidently he felt ambushed by this information.
This is the way I understand the turn of events after reading it several times.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 3, 2019 0:21:23 GMT
I'll wait and see, there have been at least three guesses as to how it all went down. I just want to see CH try and scale that wall, and drop! ..splat!
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 5, 2019 7:37:49 GMT
So maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know about this, but Cassie's been one of the stars of a docuseries called Young Once that's kind of like The Hills (was that what it was called) that follows a group of Christian kids in their post-college life. One of the main plot lines of Season 1 seems to have been her on-again-off-again relationship with her long-term boyfriend, Caelen. I'm guessing that carried over into Season 2, which just started airing and only wrapped a couple of weeks before she left to film The Bachelor. Here's a description: Young Once follows a diverse group of recent graduates from Christian college who are now navigating dating, marriage, debts, and career decisions against the backdrop of life in Southern California. When things don't go according to their college plan, they try and figure out what role God has in the intricate details of their lives. It’s a coming-of-age docuseries for anyone who has ever felt the thrill, pressure and expectation of only living Young Once. These offbeat college environments draw students from across the globe, all united in their desire to live counter-culturally, following strict moral codes that forbid alcohol and premarital sex.In the trailer for Season 2 (link below), she talks about how she thought she'd be getting married to Caelen a couple of years ago, so clearly she doesn't feel too young to get engaged. It does sound like she's jumped into The Bachelor while having unresolved feelings for someone else. The plot thickens. Has Colton become a character on HER reality show? castle.vhx.tv/videos/young-once-s2-version-3-donors
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Post by bloomers on Feb 5, 2019 17:05:43 GMT
Lots of us have been with this show a LONG time, and there has been so much foreshadowing going on, we can tell a lot of what happened; in fact, there is more foreshadowing than I can ever remember.
Colton has said 2 or 3 times his greatest fear is getting to the end and somebody is not ready/not ready for him/doesn't want him/this doesn't work, etc.
Already, we are seeing or are being told of contestants eliminating themselves - something which the producers typically carefully controlled in the past; not that people before did not desire to do so, but they were required to stay and try (their contract Bachelor Dr. Andy's F1), stay for the Rose Ceremony and be let go ( Bachelorette DeAnne's F4 Graham ), and Bachelorette Ali's F3 Frank who had to stay until the Fantasy Date and dump her on the sand among others. We are seeing or are going to see them coming and eliminate themselves at will, according to spoilers, and I can't help but think that this is the producers' way of bringing out Colton's inner insecurities in order to craft the story they want. ( I do think, however, this may have gotten out of control, and it went past what they had in mind.)
We see him jump the fence and say, "I am done." CH has come out and said Colton took off down a dark road, and he (CH) couldn't keep up with him. All of this forebodes a non-typical and frankly NOT happy ending Final Rose Ceremony for the lead.
Now go back to last night's date with Cassie. I can't remember when if EVER they so clearly showed us the F1 in the editing. He was all over her from the very beginning. He told her exactly how he felt about her without any prompting from the start. (Physical/emotional) She did not have to do 1 thing to win him. The other girls even talked about the chemistry between Cassie and Colton and as well as admitted that was the relationship in the lead.
So far we have not seen the CONFLICT, but Cassie is the F1. She thinks at this point that she wants this....and she does.
The editing; however, is foreshadowing at this point that something goes terribly wrong, and when push comes to shove, she does NOT want the same thing he does.
What the editing does not foreshadow or tell me, nor do I have a clue is what is happening as of right now in real time.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 5, 2019 17:18:18 GMT
So maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know about this, but Cassie's been one of the stars of a docuseries called Young Once that's kind of like The Hills (was that what it was called) that follows a group of Christian kids in their post-college life. One of the main plot lines of Season 1 seems to have been her on-again-off-again relationship with her long-term boyfriend, Caelen. I'm guessing that carried over into Season 2, which just started airing and only wrapped a couple of weeks before she left to film The Bachelor. Here's a description: Young Once follows a diverse group of recent graduates from Christian college who are now navigating dating, marriage, debts, and career decisions against the backdrop of life in Southern California. When things don't go according to their college plan, they try and figure out what role God has in the intricate details of their lives. It’s a coming-of-age docuseries for anyone who has ever felt the thrill, pressure and expectation of only living Young Once. These offbeat college environments draw students from across the globe, all united in their desire to live counter-culturally, following strict moral codes that forbid alcohol and premarital sex.In the trailer for Season 2 (link below), she talks about how she thought she'd be getting married to Caelen a couple of years ago, so clearly she doesn't feel too young to get engaged. It does sound like she's jumped into The Bachelor while having unresolved feelings for someone else. The plot thickens. Has Colton become a character on HER reality show? castle.vhx.tv/videos/young-once-s2-version-3-donors Interesting, one was in 2016. The other 2019.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 5, 2019 18:42:44 GMT
So maybe I'm the only one who doesn't know about this, but Cassie's been one of the stars of a docuseries called Young Once that's kind of like The Hills (was that what it was called) that follows a group of Christian kids in their post-college life. One of the main plot lines of Season 1 seems to have been her on-again-off-again relationship with her long-term boyfriend, Caelen. I'm guessing that carried over into Season 2, which just started airing and only wrapped a couple of weeks before she left to film The Bachelor. Here's a description: Young Once follows a diverse group of recent graduates from Christian college who are now navigating dating, marriage, debts, and career decisions against the backdrop of life in Southern California. When things don't go according to their college plan, they try and figure out what role God has in the intricate details of their lives. It’s a coming-of-age docuseries for anyone who has ever felt the thrill, pressure and expectation of only living Young Once. These offbeat college environments draw students from across the globe, all united in their desire to live counter-culturally, following strict moral codes that forbid alcohol and premarital sex.In the trailer for Season 2 (link below), she talks about how she thought she'd be getting married to Caelen a couple of years ago, so clearly she doesn't feel too young to get engaged. It does sound like she's jumped into The Bachelor while having unresolved feelings for someone else. The plot thickens. Has Colton become a character on HER reality show? castle.vhx.tv/videos/young-once-s2-version-3-donors Interesting, one was in 2016. The other 2019. Interesting. I didn't realize that the first one was so long ago. Were they still in college then?
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 5, 2019 18:53:13 GMT
That's what I read, happy, without the pressures from Neil Lane( he must be upset this season)..lol
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 5, 2019 19:09:05 GMT
That's what I read, happy, without the pressures from Neil Lane( he must be upset this season)..lol Oops. I deleted the post you're quoting, because I realized that I had responded to my own post instead of bloomers . Since you captured what I said, FannyMare , I won't repost with Bloomers' quote.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 5, 2019 19:43:20 GMT
It will be interesting to see the spin on Cassie/Colton's relationship, especially in light of all this big reveal on the past on and off 5 year relationship of the other guy that supposedly ended (?) right before the Bachelor filmed?
On top of that, according to RS one of the other top 3, Tayshia, had a year long relationship which lasted up very close to the time of filming. Both she and the guy posted pics of the two of the them together during the year.
Hmmm....the producers used to do a better job of trying to screen these things on applications.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 5, 2019 19:50:29 GMT
It will be interesting to see the spin on Cassie/Colton's relationship, especially in light of all this big reveal on the past on and off 5 year relationship of the other guy that supposedly ended (?) right before the Bachelor filmed? On top of that, according to RS one of the other top 3, Tayshia, had a year long relationship which lasted up very close to the time of filming. Both she and the guy posted pics of the two of the them together during the year. Hmmm....the producers used to do a better job of trying to screen these things on applications. After, they'll just say they are dating..nothing wrong with that..especially given most of them fail.. They all have pasts, it's silly to try and hide it, imho..
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 6, 2019 4:08:51 GMT
Hmmm. The more I learn about this other show, the more I'm wondering about Cassie and her motives. She really may not be there for the right reasons. LOL
Someone sent Reality Steve this version of her bio for Young Once. It was apparently there yesterday before his tweet about her having been on another reality show.
"Cassie Randolph is about to have a big life change – she’s going on America’s #1 reality dating show and knows it will affect the people in her life, including her ex-boyfriend Caelan. With unresolved feelings and hard conversations that need to happen between the two, she tries to figure out if she can still be friends with someone she cares for so deeply or if a clean break is needed to truly move on."
Once the news was out, it changed to this:
"Cassie Randolph is a sweet soul who is always up for an adventure. Whether it’s skydiving, surfing, or studying to be a Speech Pathologist, Cassie keeps busy with her SoCal lifestyle! But she;s also facing some rough waters with her ex-boyfriend Caelan. With unresolved feelings and hard conversations that need to happen between the two, she tries to figure out if she can still be friends with someone she cares for so deeply – or if a clean break is needed to truly move on."
He's saying that he thinks she's shady, because she went through filming the whole Young Once show without telling her ex that she was going on The Bachelor, but if that's the case, why would the old bio say that she's there to essentially wrap things up before going on The Bachelor?
I'm wondering if she did The Bachelor to get publicity for her Young Once show and then panicked when it looked like she was going to get proposed to. Or in addition to that possibility, did the whole Young Once second season (filmed five years after the first) only happen because she was going on The Bachelor, and someone figured they could make some money off of that. I have to wonder if she has a financial interest in Young Once. Maybe she doesn't own the show, but I wonder if there's some sort of residual involved where she gets some small amount each time an episode is streamed. Speaking of which, the new episodes are dropping weekly on Monday nights and end the night of the finale.
Seems pretty shady to me. Just sayin'.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 6, 2019 5:23:08 GMT
Also, I wonder if The Bachelor or ABC was behind the bio change. Maybe they didn't like having Young Once alluding to The Bachelor as party of their promotional materials.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 6, 2019 6:29:47 GMT
Also, I wonder if The Bachelor or ABC was behind the bio change. Maybe they didn't like having Young Once alluding to The Bachelor as party of their promotional materials. In the end, it doesn't really matter to me. I don't like to see anyone hurt, okay maybe Demi, but if they are happy right now, that's good...Colton has to know about her other show..so I'm not going to sweat it,plus they are still very young.. I'd say 95%( m&f) are there for the wrong reasons, or the right reasons in their eyes..TV exposure, so they can get drunk on BIP..the usual.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 6, 2019 19:16:50 GMT
I posted about her before I was able to finally watch the episode last night. They certainly do seem to be falling for each other. And I have no doubt that their relationship consists of a lot more than making out. They seem to have a very comfortable, easy rapport that comes from more than just physical attraction. The show is certainly letting us see a lot more than usual of her front-runner status, including the women all talking about it. They are really building this up for the crash! It really will be the most dramatic season ever. So I guess what I want to say is that even if she did come in with shady ulterior motive and an unclean break from her boyfriend, she clearly got more than she bargained for, and I wish them all the best in sorting it out. Like you, FannyMare, I don't want to see anyone get hurt when there are real feelings involved.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 6, 2019 21:22:51 GMT
The contestants have a 1 in 30 chance of being the final one - definitely poor odds. Perhaps, she went on the show thinking she would not end up the F1.
Last night I read a Google article by Bachelorette Rachel talking about being on Bachelor Nick's show. Just as we heard Colton's girls discussing Cassie's chemistry with Colton ( thus Cassie as the frontrunner), Rachel said it became very clear to the other girls that Vanessa was going to be Nick's F1; therefore, Rachel asked Producers 3 times to be eliminated only to be denied. Nick had decided that Rachel was in his F3, and the Producers were going to make Rachel stick it out although they did not tell her any details.
It may well be that as Cassie advanced closer toward the end, she panicked and approached the Producers about being eliminated. They KNEW before her 1-1 date in the 5th episode that she (Cassie) was the one who had caught his eye, and I don't believe they were going to be willing to let her go if they could help it.
I don't think they anticipated Colton taking the action he took surrounding the Fantasy Dates, but if he even hinted to Cassie his plans that night - and there was any kind of entanglement with her 1rst reality show or the former boyfriend - she may well have bolted on the spot, and there was nothing they could do to stop it. It was simply a trainwreck.
On another note, I had mentioned to my husband that Colton was not really doing the circuit rounds, nor were they questioning him: "Are you engaged? Are you happy?" After Monday night's episode and the 1-1 date with Cassie, he is now doing interviews and answering more detailed questions. He even acknowledged that the process ends for him with the Fantasy Dates....but he says the viewers will have to stay tuned to see how it plays out and to see whether they think he is happy.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 7, 2019 0:01:16 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 7, 2019 2:35:28 GMT
I doubt she'd be allowed to issue a response, but you never know. They seem to be letting them talk more than they used to.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 7, 2019 2:46:33 GMT
Well, I was wrong. Here's Cassie's Instagram post talking about it. And I guess I owe her an apology for thinking she was being shady. Based on what he and she have said, it sounds like she wasn't being shady after all, and it was just a bunch of synchronistic stuff. I'm choosing to believe her. http://instagram.com/p/Btjw15unjIw
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 7, 2019 4:38:45 GMT
Doesn't she look lovely. Some of them are very shady miss griss, so I don't blame you for thinking that way..sometimes RS will pop his own thoughts into his website, especially if he doesn't like them, and he hasn't liked many of them. I'll look( then forget what he's said) the rest just seem to follow him. Anyway..like I said upthread, I don't like to see anyone hurt..
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 7, 2019 5:59:57 GMT
Doesn't she look lovely. Some of them are very shady miss griss, so I don't blame you for thinking that way..sometimes RS will pop his own thoughts into his website, especially if he doesn't like them, and he hasn't liked many of them. I'll look( then forget what he's said) the rest just seem to follow him. Anyway..like I said upthread, I don't like to see anyone hurt.. My post was really just me taking the ball and running with it. RS doesn't think she's any shadier than the majority of them. He never thought there was any connection between the two shows. But he does seem to have confirmed that never during the shooting of the Young Once show did she mention to her ex that she was going on The Bachelor, though Caelen's Instagram post might seem to say otherwise. Hard to tell. He might be talking about hearing that she was going on The Bachelor after shooting had ended.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 7, 2019 19:45:32 GMT
To me, all this adds fuel fire to the idea that she is indeed what is going to pass as F1 for this season. If not, why should the ex even bother to write all that explanation? If she were just one of the contestants or even one of the runners up, there would be little reason for him to go in to that explanation. That leads me to believe that Cassie or someone close to the situation has contacted him and clued him in or clued him in enough to encourage him to write the explanation helping her.
That said, what a nice guy! I wonder if he has already found someone else which has helped him to be able to write such a beautiful, gracious post? In fact, I am shaking my head. After reading that post twice, I am wondering if (1) he is an English major (2) he had help from an English major or even a writer, (3) if he told a woman his basic thoughts, and she wrote it for him, or even if he is an aspiring minister/counselor, etc.? It is written so sensitively for the average guy, I am frankly having difficulty wrapping my head around the fact that one wrote it!
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 7, 2019 20:43:46 GMT
I think her ex, and not every ex is an enemy, saw the crap that was being written about her, and stuck up for her. This happened years ago to one of the leads in bacherlotte. I've already read Colton and Cassie are dating, so I'll wait to see them ATFR. I know one thing, a) they have great chemistry b) I think she's an improvement on Tia, who was very very needy.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 8, 2019 15:09:41 GMT
I think her ex, and not every ex is an enemy, saw the crap that was being written about her, and stuck up for her. This happened years ago to one of the leads in bacherlotte. I've already read Colton and Cassie are dating, so I'll wait to see them ATFR. I know one thing, a) they have great chemistry b) I think she's an improvement on Tia, who was very very needy. Generally speaking, men are by nature hunters. Although some of them might occasionally enjoy aggression in a woman, by and large they still want to do the chasing. Even on this show, for the most part we don't usually see the very aggressive women end up as F1. The Bachelor generally goes for the one he chases. Tia literally chased Colton from Becca's show through BIP. The Producers may have influenced that, but Tia made it known what she wanted, and she went after it with everything she had in her. I will give her credit for trying; however, I could have told her when she made the move during Becca's season that the chances for her with Colton didn't look good. That is human nature. I told my husband that they set that whole thing up on BIP between Tia and Colton to finish out a storyline, and I wondered then if they were considering him for the Bachelor. They knew he was not going to end up with Tia. It just wasn't there no matter how hard he tried....and she tried too hard.
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