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Post by MissGriss on Feb 19, 2019 4:18:38 GMT
I'm heading there this coming weekend. Going to see the Dior exhibit at the art museum (or whatever museum it's at LOL). OMG. I saw that when it was in Toronto. You will love it. It was fabulous. My only quibble is that I wanted to know what stuff cost...then and now. I can't wait. A friend saw it and sent me a bunch of pictures, and it looked wonderful. My sister and two of her married daughters live in Colorado Springs. Her other daughter and my other sister and I are all coming from out-of-town to have a girls' day out to the exhibit and dinner (and maybe a movie) before we catch our 10:00 pm flight back home. (We're flying in the day before, so it's not quite as quick a trip as it sounds, but pretty quick all the same.) I agree that it would be fun to know the costs, both then and now. Bummer that they didn't show it.
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Post by karna68 on Feb 19, 2019 13:10:16 GMT
Tayshia and Kirpa both of them had no proof of anything, it was just "well I heard" and "my opinion" really?
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Post by bloomers on Feb 19, 2019 15:50:47 GMT
Yes, me too....she thought she was the one going home.. To me this edit is making it so obvious. The making out, the grand sweeping music, Colton and Cassie are soooooooooooo happy. It feels like the final and we are not even at hometowns!!! You know it can't last and she is going to dump his stupid a**. It has been one long set up pretty much all season. I bet that is what that wall jump is all about. BINGO!! I have never seen so much apparent foreshadowing in the editing. Why is he going on and on and on about ending up with somebody who is not ready, with nobody? Why do we see him jump the fence and say, "I'm done?" Why did we see ( a very quick) glimpse of Cassie crying in a limo like she was leaving? I think he WANTED to give Cassie a rose before Episode 7, but he had serious doubts. We heard from the girls she was the forerunner, we saw for ourselves the insane chemistry between them. He didn't even ask her any questions. He was just physically all over her! ....and yet we went into Ep 7, and Cassie did NOT get a 1-1 date. That tells me he had his doubts before Tayshia and Kirpa ratted on her. If the last 3 girls he let go warned him that some of the ones left ( no names mentioned) were not ready, then common sense tells me that there is probably a little something those three know from being around everyone talking in the house. He is asking, so it is probably a little unfair to totally blame the girls when they answer. *I think we have to keep in mind that we see only what the editors and producers want us to see: We don't see those conversations. We don't see those producer prompts as the girls are leaving...I am thinking they are prompted to tell him. We don't see those producer prompts to Colton to ask questions of the girls although I believe they are for the sake of the show and story they are crafting We don't see the producer prompt to Caelynn to go persuade Colton on behalf of Cassie ( although she could not even have gone without their permission, etc.), nor do we hear the conversation They are molding this story the way they want us to see it.
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Post by karna68 on Feb 19, 2019 16:03:00 GMT
^^you're right I just choose not to read too deep into it at times
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 19, 2019 16:03:33 GMT
They do that every single show. They have hours of footage in which they mould the story, its not new, at least to me. I'm reminded of the farmer, good old boy, farmer Chris..
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Post by bloomers on Feb 19, 2019 18:23:16 GMT
I heard Tayshia, Caeylynn and Hannah B tell Colton they were ready to be married at the end of this; I assume Hannah G. did as well since she immediately got her rose.
I heard Cassie tell Colton, "I am here for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here."
Did anyone else hear her tell Colton that she (too) was ready to be married at the end of this? I did not.
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Post by Midol on Feb 19, 2019 19:09:02 GMT
They do that every single show. They have hours of footage in which they mould the story, its not new, at least to me. I'm reminded of the farmer, good old boy, farmer Chris.. I agree they do this every season, but I have never seen it to this degree. It is OTT. That just tells me that this was a really boring season, with a more than usual boring lead, with a young and dull cast. The editors really had to work for this season.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 19, 2019 19:40:12 GMT
I heard Tayshia, Caeylynn and Hannah B tell Colton they were ready to be married at the end of this; I assume Hannah G. did as well since she immediately got her rose. I heard Cassie tell Colton, "I am here for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here." Did anyone else hear her tell Colton that she (too) was ready to be married at the end of this? I did not. She might of said it, and they quite possibly edited out. I was looking at Ben Higgins and recalling his season. I was so bored, so it really looks like this show has jumped the shark, at least for me. I'll hang in there until this season is over, but I decided this really is aimed for twenty year olds, who seem to love this show, as I did a few years ago.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 19, 2019 20:35:43 GMT
I heard Tayshia, Caeylynn and Hannah B tell Colton they were ready to be married at the end of this; I assume Hannah G. did as well since she immediately got her rose. I heard Cassie tell Colton, "I am here for you. Otherwise, I wouldn't be here." Did anyone else hear her tell Colton that she (too) was ready to be married at the end of this? I did not. She might of said it, and they quite possibly edited out. I was looking at Ben Higgins and recalling his season. I was so bored, so it really looks like this show has jumped the shark, at least for me. I'll hang in there until this season is over, but I decided this really is aimed for twenty year olds, who seem to love this show, as I did a few years ago. I truly believe they had to work with what they were given this season. They are editing like crazy, but they had a bunch of catty girls and a bunch who simply were not ready for the Bachelor to ask the final one to marry him which happens every single season - so I don't what the girls expected - but what we are seeing seems to be the result. I blame the producers for a lot of this. After Brad #1, they were scrupulously careful to make sure that every male contestant knew what was expected of him at the end - propose - that is until Peter in Rachel's season. They had gotten lax by that time. Likewise, after Bachelorette Jen and that debacle surrounding her Final Rose Ceremony where she decided within a day or two she didn't want to be bothered, the producers made sure that all the women contestants, including the Bachelorettes understood that they were expected to become engaged at the end of the process if they were chosen - or somehow make it known to somebody so that they could be eliminated at a Rose Ceremony. It is appearing to me that they may not have talked to the contestants well or well enough about expectations - or what to do/when to do it - before filming began.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 20, 2019 16:23:50 GMT
A well placed mild curse word used for emphasis doesn't bother me, but the really bad ones used frequently and like every other word in the sentence structure begin to grate on my nerves, so I don't read too many online recaps as they tend to use as many bad curse words as the contestants do ( except they aren't blipped out). However, occasionally I will read one, and some of them are simply hilarious. The Vulture writer was all over both Colton and the girls in his/her review. Minus the plethora of curse words, the reviewer began to count up the number of people who warned Colton that some of the girls weren't ready. The reviewer said of course, Colton, that you are hearing what you want to hear....not what you need to hear, and of course, you are paying attention, Colton, not to your gut but to something much lower. By that time, I am losing it.....
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Post by MissScarlet on Feb 20, 2019 18:50:42 GMT
This reaffirms what I've suspected: I suspect many of these leads zone in on one of the contestants the first night, and the game is over. The others never get a chance. Production makes the lead play the game for the rest of the time & pick someone else for FIR in order to not give the winner away right away. Sometimes we can see this because it's so poorly hidden. Nomatter who says what & what information comes out on that pick, the lead won't back down.
Every so often that info is proven true, or that pick quits & goes home & the lead is left with having to pick someone just to appease production. I've seen leads who pretty much give up & can't even put on a convincing show after this. They're just biding time 'till they can leave & go home.
This time seems a bit different in that Cassie waited 'till the end to cancel out & Colton won't give up & pick a 2nd choice. How much of this is production influenced for a first time "most dramatic ending"?
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Post by bloomers on Feb 20, 2019 20:55:27 GMT
This reaffirms what I've suspected: I suspect many of these leads zone in on one of the contestants the first night, and the game is over. The others never get a chance. Production makes the lead play the game for the rest of the time & pick someone else for FIR in order to not give the winner away right away. Sometimes we can see this because it's so poorly hidden. Nomatter who says what & what information comes out on that pick, the lead won't back down. Every so often that info is proven true, or that pick quits & goes home & the lead is left with having to pick someone just to appease production. I've seen leads who pretty much give up & can't even put on a convincing show after this. They're just biding time 'till they can leave & go home. This time seems a bit different in that Cassie waited 'till the end to cancel out & Colton won't give up & pick a 2nd choice. How much of this is production influenced for a first time "most dramatic ending"? 90% of the editing is pointing to Cassie being his choice ( 1-1 physical, emotional connection, he didn't even need to question her on that date as compared to what he did with the other 1-1s, the girls acknowledged she was the forerunner), we hear him bemoan over and over and over again in foreshadowing that he is afraid he will end up with someone not ready, we see in future previews a very brief glimpse of a crying Cassie leaving in a limo, Colton saying, "I am done and leaping the fence," and Chris Harrison saying, "This changes everything." That is what WE have seen. Here is what Colton is saying on interviews, etc. Whether he is being allowed to, is just saying it anyway (pride), part of it is true so it is justified, things have evolved since November to now, or he is just lying? I have NO idea! However, here is what I can remember seeing hearing and seeing him say: He is happy. The ring box is empty because rings belong on fingers. The spoilers are wrong.* *In part? Were they right when they happened? Have things evolved; therefore, they are not right? Are they totally wrong, and everything we have seen so far is just wacky?? Is he just blowing us smoke? Are they just blowing us smoke because they have given away too much already? BTW, by doing so, they have many folks on their heads because they haven't already shown the fence leap. That is all they want to see!
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 20, 2019 21:03:21 GMT
I want to see AFTR, the wall jump we all know about as it's played over and over. They aren't so sure about ATFR..
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 20, 2019 21:06:27 GMT
This reaffirms what I've suspected: I suspect many of these leads zone in on one of the contestants the first night, and the game is over. The others never get a chance. Production makes the lead play the game for the rest of the time & pick someone else for FIR in order to not give the winner away right away. Sometimes we can see this because it's so poorly hidden. Nomatter who says what & what information comes out on that pick, the lead won't back down. Every so often that info is proven true, or that pick quits & goes home & the lead is left with having to pick someone just to appease production. I've seen leads who pretty much give up & can't even put on a convincing show after this. They're just biding time 'till they can leave & go home. This time seems a bit different in that Cassie waited 'till the end to cancel out & Colton won't give up & pick a 2nd choice. How much of this is production influenced for a first time "most dramatic ending"? I'd say the lead clicks with one or two on the first night, as it goes on, they may see more in common with a few others( plus there are conversation we are never privy to and never will be) I think whoever the lead is, we can see chemistry..and we can see who has no chemistry..
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Post by bloomers on Feb 21, 2019 0:06:00 GMT
I want to see AFTR, the wall jump we all know about as it's played over and over. They aren't so sure about ATFR.. I think they are filming the WTA this Friday, maybe. Usually, those things are a big nothing; however, I think that one may just be a Tell All...not that we will see it after it is edited. I think when they all get back together again, they are going to hash it out as to who actually said what in the house which led the leaving girls to warn Colton. I am with you, though...maybe we will find out what did happen at the After the Final Rose Show.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 0:29:00 GMT
I think the little girls tell all,will be a snooze fest.. LOL
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 21, 2019 4:30:32 GMT
I want to see AFTR, the wall jump we all know about as it's played over and over. They aren't so sure about ATFR.. I think they are filming the WTA this Friday, maybe. Usually, those things are a big nothing; however, I think that one may just be a Tell All...not that we will see it after it is edited. I think when they all get back together again, they are going to hash it out as to who actually said what in the house which led the leaving girls to warn Colton. I am with you, though...maybe we will find out what did happen at the After the Final Rose Show. RS says he should have intel available on Monday or Tuesday regarding what happened at WTA. It'll be interesting to see if we learn anything new.
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Post by karna68 on Feb 21, 2019 13:26:28 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 17:34:47 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her I thought he was, Cassie and Hannah were my favourite two. And many leads fall in love with more than one person..
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 21, 2019 17:48:41 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her Where can we see this scene? On ABC's site?
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Post by fang2170 on Feb 21, 2019 18:44:29 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her I thought he was, Cassie and Hannah were my favourite two. And many leads fall in love with more than one person.. I'm perfectly okay with Cassie, Hannah and Caelynn being the F3, although it seems Cassie is going to bolt soon. My speculation is Caelynn and Hannah will be F2. He's got quite a decision, and will be calling upon his family/father to help him decide!
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Post by bloomers on Feb 21, 2019 18:51:35 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her Where can we see this scene? On ABC's site? I haven't seen that speculation either. She is a doll...a sweetie pie who just stays out of it all, but Colton just seems to pay her just enough attention to get by. What I am hearing more and more, though, online is SPECULATION that she is looking good and is in a position to be seriously considered for the next Bachelorette. Why? She is in the top 4. That is where they usually come from. She stays out of the fray which the Bachelorette usually is shown as doing. She does NOT look like she is in a winning position, and if so ( I sure don't know what exactly is going on!), she is going to get her heart broken which is a requirement. She has a good edit, plus I am hearing online as well that the guys who are being cast for the next Bachelor think she is FINE! I thought it was going to be Caelynn before Monday night, but that edit was not very good for the next Bachelorette.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 21, 2019 18:57:16 GMT
I thought he was, Cassie and Hannah were my favourite two. And many leads fall in love with more than one person.. I'm perfectly okay with Cassie, Hannah and Caelynn being the F3, although it seems Cassie is going to bolt soon. My speculation is Caelynn and Hannah will be F2. He's got quite a decision, and will be calling upon his family/father to help him decide! I won't be watching any of them as bacherlotte though, too young for me. Hannah G is sweet, but if she's a bacherlotte, hmm no, not for me..
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Post by karna68 on Feb 21, 2019 19:02:41 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her Where can we see this scene? On ABC's site? I believe so, or on the Bachelor page on Facebook, that's where I saw it.
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Post by bloomers on Feb 21, 2019 19:29:07 GMT
Where can we see this scene? On ABC's site? I believe so, or on the Bachelor page on Facebook, that's where I saw it. I find several things on Google which gives articles as well as YouTube which shows preview clips we sometimes don't see. Don't ask me how they get them because I don't know, but they are there for everyone to see. Something interesting that was mixed in with the hometown clips but in a way that was very hard to understand or figure out was Hannah B (let go last episode) in different clothing appearing to perhaps be returning, walking up to a hotel, knocking on a door? If so....for whatever reason, besides Jillian's Ed, has that EVER worked out?
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 22, 2019 1:45:03 GMT
They put out the scene of Colton giving Hannah G. the rose, not sure why they didn't show it on the show but her told her he's falling in love with her Did he learn nothing from Ben Higgins' season?
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Post by fang2170 on Feb 22, 2019 16:35:59 GMT
I'm perfectly okay with Cassie, Hannah and Caelynn being the F3, although it seems Cassie is going to bolt soon. My speculation is Caelynn and Hannah will be F2. He's got quite a decision, and will be calling upon his family/father to help him decide! I won't be watching any of them as bacherlotte though, too young for me. Hannah G is sweet, but if she's a bacherlotte, hmm no, not for me.. I've said that before, then figure out there's nothing else on TV on Monday evening, lol.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 22, 2019 17:37:31 GMT
I won't be watching any of them as bacherlotte though, too young for me. Hannah G is sweet, but if she's a bacherlotte, hmm no, not for me.. I've said that before, then figure out there's nothing else on TV on Monday evening, lol. Me too. I really do think these kids are very young, so I'll watch what's on. Monday isn't a bad night actually. I can't imagine watching BIP either, after the last time, and couples matching up for what? To lie..I'm looking at you Jenna, what a bunch of cr@p...lol
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Post by bloomers on Feb 22, 2019 17:59:23 GMT
Yes....I did finally see the scene between Colton and Hannah G where he immediately gave her the rose while Cassie and Kirpa sat at the table with one rose between them. The scene which was not shown to us the other night was on my Google page of articles. It was a really sweet scene. He reiterated that she (Hannah G) from the first night reminds him of home and calms him. He did say he was falling in love with her....but I am not sure honestly there was a bucketful of conviction there - not like there is with Cassie. He then pulled her up from the step and ask could he walk her out to the limo "in a good way."
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Post by bloomers on Feb 25, 2019 16:41:38 GMT
On my Google page there is a promo vid for tonight's hometown date with Cassie, and whoa!....her Dad!! If they don't edit it out, we are going to let us see her Dad asking her if Colton is that physically affectionate with all of the girls in front of their families, or just her? He is going to ask Cassie is she ready to get married? She is only 23. She has her whole life in front of her....she has only know him and dated him for a very short time. These questions are the questions EVERY Dad should be asking. Do they? Is this foreshadowing?
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