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Post by Arielflies on Sept 10, 2019 1:28:12 GMT
Cliff and Nicole putting together their final two speeches, listing their accomplishments. Actually they are so happy to be final four and hopefully final three.
Michie is lounging now with Tommy and Cliff notices and wonders why Michie would take Tommy who has a resume and friends on jury.
Cliff: The worst is that Tommy wins HOH. We can't cover all our bases. We're in a good position no matter which way it goes, we just have to figure out which way to go.
When we get rid of anyone who has alliances, we will be the only two still going.
The planes are really noisy and Nicole says they aren't interesting enough to be noticed.
Nicole says she has a faint idea who America is rooting for...says if she were at home, she would be rooting for them.
Cliff: We've never turned on each other.
They're talking about how they were able to hide talking game with each other.
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Post by sunnydayz on Sept 10, 2019 1:34:49 GMT
I suppose Jackson may want Holly in the jury because she’d be a guaranteed vote for him. That is unless he so totally pisses her off that she goes to jury so bitter she decides to vote for anyone but him. But the way she’s groveled to him for the most part and come crawling back to him after their arguments, makes me think she’d vote for him at this point no matter what.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 10, 2019 2:13:21 GMT
They should tell Nicole , Tommy's secret! I prefer Jackson to win over Tommy. May I ask your reasoning? Very curious. You may. I think Jackson( game play or not) took an interest in Nicole and Cliff.( once Jack was gone) I don't think Christie or Tommy did, not right until the end. In the DR , Tommy said he'd been stabbed in the back. Really? Why? Christie left, not him..he was feeling ever so sorry for himself, and if I cast my mind back, to when Jack was in the house, Tommy wanted the group to get back together so badly, it was almost embarrassing..he's not a good player imho..Is he social, yes, is that fake, I think it is, as much as his tears..there is just something about him, I cannot take to. I would like an F3, of jackson, Nicole, and Cliff..probably totally different than lots of other posters, but that's just me..and I answered as truthfully as I could. It's just a game, the season will soon be over, and I likely wont watch another one. I know Jackson has a lot of problems, but he enjoys the competitive nature of this game , just as much as Cliff enjoys this game, but in a different way..
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 10, 2019 3:34:27 GMT
Girl.
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Post by cupidguest on Sept 10, 2019 3:36:23 GMT
Girl. Unbelievable. I'm tired of their stupid, disgusting showers - and I don't have the feeds!
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 10, 2019 3:38:40 GMT
Reading back ....
Tommy told Nicole and then Cliff that his offer is that he would throw the HOH to one of them. And then gun as hard as he can for veto. If won...he would evict Jackson.
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Post by cupidguest on Sept 10, 2019 3:53:43 GMT
Hmmmm, let me think aloud about what Tommy told Cliff and Nicole. It is not a guarantee Tommy will win veto. They can't give him the veto. Everyone has to put their all into that veto. Updated: It is not a guarantee that Tommy will do as he says.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 10, 2019 4:41:29 GMT
I think Tommy and Jackson would each like to take Nicole and Cliff. But, I’m a firm believer in everyone doing their best to win HoH. Tommy is right, the veto winner decides who the 4th evictee will be, and the veto win also guarantees a spot in F3. Since Jackson can’t play in next HoH, his only hope of surviving (if Holly goes) is winning the veto. I don’t know if he’s figured that out. I can’t remember if days is HoH comp and Face morph veto, or vice versa? Juls?
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 10, 2019 5:19:02 GMT
The last time the Face Morph was used for the last veto was Season 18. They have also had Face Morph as an HOH comp. It usually has something to do with knowing the "days" and order of things that happened in the house...but it's also physical. This was last years final veto. www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBGqne9ij7I And that HOH was "what the bleep" ...which we have already had.
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Post by carolinamom on Sept 10, 2019 5:25:27 GMT
I just don’t buy what Tommy is selling. Nicole is think g to far ahead, she has her head in the clouds from the win. Holly is falling apart right now, She would be easy to beat, She is burnt out from worry about Jackson cheating.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 10, 2019 6:01:55 GMT
I'm going back and forth about it constantly. I can't imagine what the pressure and anxiety is like in the house.
I believe Tommy for some crazy reason. If Christie was involved...I wouldn't. At all. But I believe him when he says he wants Jackson out. He has for weeks. I don't imagine that has changed. Not to mention he's hard to beat. Tommy would be silly to keep him. And he knows it.
If he's REALLY willing to throw HOH then Cliff or Nicole are guaranteed Final 3.
I don't know...I'm torn for sure.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Sept 10, 2019 12:13:15 GMT
Tommy is the wrong person to keep. Everyone in jury house loves him. You need to be standing next to Holly at the end, she won't get a vote unless Jackson is in jury. They should tell Nicole , Tommy's secret! I prefer Jackson to win over Tommy. Oh I do too, Fanny. Jackson went with an alliance, and stuck with it. He was/is a comp beast. IMO, Tommy didn't align with anyone except Christie. I felt he was only loyal to her. Whatever she would decide, he just agreed to every time.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 10, 2019 12:30:10 GMT
As much of a jerk as Jackson seems to be as a person, I have to agree he's built a strong case for winning. He was a significant part of a dominant alliance in the beginning, survived being broken off from that by winning critical comps when he needed to, and proved to be fiercely loyal to Cliff and Nicole. Cliff can make the case that as the old guy he was never supposed to make it past week 2, but won critical comps when he needed to. Nicole has also come on strong when she needed to. Tommy has had a GREAT social game, but did a lot of coattail riding and making sure that there was always someone he was aligned with more hated than him. And now that I say that - given how little he's socialized with the remaining players since Christie left, perhaps his social game was just very very good rather than GREAT.
I think those who've said it are right - the way to win this game for everyone remaining is to be in the final 2 against Holly. Of the people remaining, I think jury votes would favor in this order - Jackson Tommy Nicole Cliff Holly
Nicole and Cliff should possibly be switched.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 10, 2019 22:19:45 GMT
I want Holly gone! I favor Nicole and Cliff, but think that both Tommy and Jaxsn deserve to be in final 4. Winner of Final HoH determines who He/She will be up against. I'm ok with a surprise ending. If Holly is still there, the only person that would take her to F2 is Jackson, and I'm not even sure he would take her, over Nicole. In fact, I think he might just take his little sister over Holly. Cliff and Nicole will take each other. Dump Holly, please. puhleeez!
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 10, 2019 22:23:21 GMT
Cute as can be kitties now....and we flip to puppies.
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