lizard
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Post by lizard on Oct 31, 2019 13:30:50 GMT
Lori Loughlin probably has the resources to live a comfortable life after a sentence; I don't feel bad for her.
At least one of her daughters is unregretful and could care less what fate her mother suffers...sticking her finger up at the system even when her mother has been caught.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Oct 31, 2019 21:11:47 GMT
Since there's been no news about Heidi & Tim's new show, and since Heidi always has her annual Halloween bash, I'll leave this here:
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Post by Kao on Nov 1, 2019 0:16:13 GMT
I look forward to Heidi Klum's costumes every year and this looks fantastic!
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Post by Kao on Nov 5, 2019 15:58:30 GMT
Hmmm...apparently Lori Loughlin's husband got busted in a series of incriminating emails he wrote to his accountant and the Singer guy about getting pictures of his daughter in rowing clothes to "look like a real athlete" and getting test scores and other things so Singer could make a portfolio for her and he was like "Fantastic...I'll get it all for you." When he got the items Singer sent him a 200k invoice, which the husband then sent to the accountant saying “Good news my daughter … is in (U)SC… bad is I had to work the system.” So yeah, these folks weren't tricked in any way; they knew it was a scheme and went for it anyway.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 5, 2019 16:15:48 GMT
Hmmm...apparently Lori Loughlin's husband got busted in a series of incriminating emails he wrote to his accountant and the Singer guy about getting pictures of his daughter in rowing clothes to "look like a real athlete" and getting test scores and other things so Singer could make a portfolio for her and he was like "Fantastic...I'll get it all for you." When he got the items Singer sent him a 200k invoice, which the husband then sent to the accountant saying “Good news my daughter … is in (U)SC… bad is I had to work the system.” So yeah, these folks weren't tricked in any way; they knew it was a scheme and went for it anyway.
Tough way to learn a lesson that the most talent criminals speak in person so there is no record!
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 19:51:53 GMT
Hmmm...apparently Lori Loughlin's husband got busted in a series of incriminating emails he wrote to his accountant and the Singer guy about getting pictures of his daughter in rowing clothes to "look like a real athlete" and getting test scores and other things so Singer could make a portfolio for her and he was like "Fantastic...I'll get it all for you." When he got the items Singer sent him a 200k invoice, which the husband then sent to the accountant saying “Good news my daughter … is in (U)SC… bad is I had to work the system.” So yeah, these folks weren't tricked in any way; they knew it was a scheme and went for it anyway.
Tough way to learn a lesson that the most talent criminals speak in person so there is no record! Yeah. Leaving an email trail doesn't seem very smart. And saying you were tricked when the emails exist is even dumber. I wonder if he deleted them from his computer and thought they were "gone." 😂
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 6, 2019 17:03:55 GMT
At the end of the day Lori Loughlin and her husband chose to lie about their daughters achievements. No-one twisted their arms or 'misled' them. They chose to create photos which misrepresented their daughters accomplishments. There is no way out of that. Honest people would not engage in deceptive practices like this. No, I do not have empathy for any of these families who chose to lie and distort the truth in order to game the admissions system in their favor. I have empathy for the honest students who were denied entrance because of the hubris and deceitful behavior of families like the Loughlin's. It's entitlement at it's worst. It is inexusable because honest people would never agree to lie about their childrens accomplishments. If someone told them "So, heere's what you need to do in order for me to help you...take these photos...and give some money..." We would all know this was a scam. We would disengage from the person and we'd go to the aiuthorities. None of us would claim we were misled because none of us would engage any furtherer with the scam artist.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 6, 2019 17:52:02 GMT
At the end of the day Lori Loughlin and her husband chose to lie about their daughters achievements. No-one twisted their arms or 'misled' them. They chose to create photos which misrepresented their daughters accomplishments. There is no way out of that. Honest people would not engage in deceptive practices like this. No, I do not have empathy for any of these families who chose to lie and distort the truth in order to game the admissions system in their favor. I have empathy for the honest students who were denied entrance because of the hubris and deceitful behavior of families like the Loughlin's. It's entitlement at it's worst. It is inexusable because honest people would never agree to lie about their childrens accomplishments. If someone told them "So, heere's what you need to do in order for me to help you...take these photos...and give some money..." We would all know this was a scam. We would disengage from the person and we'd go to the aiuthorities. None of us would claim we were misled because none of us would engage any furtherer with the scam artist. While I agree with the general sentiment of what you've said here, I think you've used some absolutes that are not quite true - primarily the point that honest people would not engage in these practices. I see this kind of like a I see a person who says "i'd never break the law" even though that person has driven over the speed limit or rolled through a stop sign. In cases like this, I don't think that people set out to be deceptive and break the law. Instead, the envelope is pushed one millimeter at at time until it's rolling way past a point that people would go. Look at Breaking Bad ... Walter White did not start out as a murderous thug. He started out as a guy who wanted to provide a good life for his family ... and then step by step he kept crossing the line without feeling consequences so he was willing to cross it the next time. The court systems are filled with people who thought themselves to be honest, got wrapped up in circumstances and suddenly found themselves before a judge who was asking how they plea.
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Post by Critical on Nov 6, 2019 18:41:48 GMT
It's strange to me that Mossimo used the phrase "work the system" since I've always thought that meant that you don't break the rules but, rather, manipulate them to your own benefit.....or maybe just exploit a loophole. What that whole family did was CHEAT the system. They broke the law and he knows it. Him phrasing it the way he did is an attempt to spin the story. Falsifying test scores and creating fake athletic careers for his daughters is NOT a part of the system. A$$hat. He and his entire entitled family need to go down.
While what Felicity Huffman did was definitely not okay, it also wasn't nearly on the level of what some of the other parents did, including LL and her family. I really felt for FH's daughter when she found out what her mother had done. How awful to think your mom didn't believe in you. IIRC, she actually DOES have learning challenges and could have received (I think) permission for more time to take the test.
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Post by Kao on Nov 6, 2019 20:28:52 GMT
At the end of the day Lori Loughlin and her husband chose to lie about their daughters achievements. No-one twisted their arms or 'misled' them. They chose to create photos which misrepresented their daughters accomplishments. There is no way out of that. Honest people would not engage in deceptive practices like this. No, I do not have empathy for any of these families who chose to lie and distort the truth in order to game the admissions system in their favor. I have empathy for the honest students who were denied entrance because of the hubris and deceitful behavior of families like the Loughlin's. It's entitlement at it's worst. It is inexusable because honest people would never agree to lie about their childrens accomplishments. If someone told them "So, heere's what you need to do in order for me to help you...take these photos...and give some money..." We would all know this was a scam. We would disengage from the person and we'd go to the aiuthorities. None of us would claim we were misled because none of us would engage any furtherer with the scam artist. All of this. If I were trying to get into USC and was on my HS rowing team and had decent test scores, academics and extra curriculars but got pass over by this nitwit I would be mad as hell.
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Post by Critical on Nov 6, 2019 21:24:59 GMT
I read a quote online last night that I think is applicable here: "The difference between a criminal and an average person is that where the average person sees a boundary, the criminal sees an obstacle standing between him and the thing he wants."
I think there are a lot of people with money who look at that money as a way around the rules set out for everyone....that they consider as just for the rest of us.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 7, 2019 16:50:37 GMT
Alex Baldwin would like you to stop demonizing the wealthy when they break the law
As Felicity Huffman serves a 14-day-sentence for her role in the national college admissions scandal, Alec Baldwin is speaking out in her defense.The “30 Rock” actor recently tweeted his take on the situation, saying he doesn’t believe “anyone involved in the college fraud cases should go to prison. That includes past cases as well.” He went on, “Community service, fines, yes. But prison time, no. My heart goes out to Felicity, Bill Macy and their family.” Followers soon made note of Baldwin’s “tone deaf” suggestions, reminding the celeb that fines do nothing to deter the wealthy from wrongdoing. “Community service is better,” replied the father of five. “The demonization of wealth in this country is mind blowing. A country built on both freedoms and commerce. Now, all success is scrutinized. Merely to succeed, especially financially, invites scrutiny, judgment, abuse.” Baldwin’s followers vehemently disagreed with the notion that the wealthy suffer because of their affluence;
This opinion seems tone deaf. If they can afford hundreds of thousands of $$ to get their kids in, how will a "fine" be a deterrent? Even the current risk of jail WASN'T.
These aren't cases of success being scrutinized. It's fraud. It's literally stealing something (an opportunity) that wasn't earned thru merit.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 7, 2019 18:29:30 GMT
Alex Baldwin would like you to stop demonizing the wealthy when they break the lawAs Felicity Huffman serves a 14-day-sentence for her role in the national college admissions scandal, Alec Baldwin is speaking out in her defense.The “30 Rock” actor recently tweeted his take on the situation, saying he doesn’t believe “anyone involved in the college fraud cases should go to prison. That includes past cases as well.” He went on, “Community service, fines, yes. But prison time, no. My heart goes out to Felicity, Bill Macy and their family.” Followers soon made note of Baldwin’s “tone deaf” suggestions, reminding the celeb that fines do nothing to deter the wealthy from wrongdoing. “Community service is better,” replied the father of five. “The demonization of wealth in this country is mind blowing. A country built on both freedoms and commerce. Now, all success is scrutinized. Merely to succeed, especially financially, invites scrutiny, judgment, abuse.” Baldwin’s followers vehemently disagreed with the notion that the wealthy suffer because of their affluence; This opinion seems tone deaf. If they can afford hundreds of thousands of $$ to get their kids in, how will a "fine" be a deterrent? Even the current risk of jail WASN'T. These aren't cases of success being scrutinized. It's fraud. It's literally stealing something (an opportunity) that wasn't earned thru merit. I can get on board with what he's saying, but I'd expand it. I think that for the most part, we should stop demonizing people who are being tried for a crime - regardless of their financial status. We should let the criminal justice system do it's job. When people are found guilty of crimes, the justice system should give the appropriate punishment, and that punishment should suffice. No need for additional social media justice. We left the days of throwing rotten food at people in the stocks and pillory ... and then brought them back with our bashing and public outrage. A large part of me believes that if we didn't pile on so much with outrage in so many criminal cases, the justice system would do a better job of applying just sentences, and we would not have mandatory sentencing laws that cause more harm than good.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 12, 2019 23:22:36 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/sports/more-sports/bode-miller-delivered-his-twin-boys-after-midwife-didnt-make-it-time-for-the-birth/ar-BBWERWB?ocid=spartanntp Bode Miller delivered his twin boys after midwife didn't make it time for the birth
No, Miller didn’t become an obstetrician, but he had to perform similar duties when his twin boys were born Nov. 8. Miller stepped in and helped deliver the twins after the couple’s midwife did not show up in time for the birth, according to the Daily Mail. Miller, 42, had help from his mother, who previously worked as a midwife. Together, they helped deliver the two children, who do not have names yet. Following the birth, Miller’s wife, former professional beach volleyball player Morgan Beck Miller posted pictures of the children on Instagram. Morgan Miller, 32, teased the story of their birth, calling it “mind blowing.” Bode Miller told the Daily Mail delivering the twins was “one of the more crazy things I've ever experienced.” Bode and Morgan Miller welcome the twins a little over a year after their 19-month-old daughter Emeline died in a drowning accident. The couple had a son, Easton, four months before Emeline’s death. Morgan Miller believes Emeline played a role in the couple getting pregnant with twins. Miller mentioned Emeline in the Instagram post announcing the pregnancy, saying “we knew Emmy had her hands in this miracle somehow.”
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Post by Kao on Nov 13, 2019 2:25:36 GMT
What a great experience for everyone concerned!
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 14, 2019 6:07:15 GMT
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 14, 2019 17:13:28 GMT
www.msn.com/en-us/money/personalfinance/olympic-swimmer-ryan-lochte-went-from-earning-millions-to-living-paycheck-to-paycheck-—-heres-what-he-learned/ar-BBWHZqM?ocid=spartandhpETA: Boy, I didn't see this coming (she writes with great sarcasm). Also, he is hoping to compete in the Toyko summer games. However, there is new suspicion as a overweight(by 22 pounds) Lochte won Gold at the August 2019 international meet. Lochte says he's lost 17 pounds since then. Olympic swimmer Ryan Lochte went from earning millions to living paycheck-to-paycheck — here's what he learned Ryan Lochte knows what it feels like to be on top: The American swimmer won his first Olympic gold medal at the 2004 Games in Athens when he was 20. Between 2004 and 2016, he collected a total of 12 Olympic medals, making him one of the world's most decorated swimmers, and earned millions along the way. The world-class athlete also k what it feels like to be on top: The American swimmer won his first Olympic gold medal at the 2004 Games in Athens when he was 20. Between 2004 and 2016, he collected a total of 12 Olympic medals, making him one of the world's most decorated swimmers, and earned millions along the way. The world-class athlete also knows what it feels like to hit rock bottom: A scandal during the 2016 Summer Olympics in Rio de Janeiro resulted in a 10-month suspension and the loss of his major sponsors. Two years later, Lochte was suspended again by the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency for receiving an intravenous vitamin B-12 infusion. During that time, he lost nearly all of his career earnings, he tells Alex Rodriguez on a 2019 episode of CNBC's "Back in the Game," in which Rodriguez helps athletes bounce back after damaging their reputations and finances. Lochte says he went from making "well over $1 million" a year to earning $75,000 from a single sponsor. When Rodriguez met up with him, he and his wife had already downsized from a 4,200 square-foot home to an 1,800 square-foot apartment, but Lochte was still spending beyond his means and was quickly headed into debt. He estimated he had about $20,000 in savings, though he admitted that he hadn't looked at his bank account in two years.
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Post by Kao on Nov 14, 2019 20:28:24 GMT
He's...not very bright, but not much different from a lot of athletes who live in the now and years down the line discover they are broke. :/ Haven't liked him ever since he deliberately lied and said he got robbed in Rio by gunpoint by some people in favelas when actually he and his friends were drunk, harassing people at a gas station and damaging property and urinating everywhere. The "robbers" were actually security guards trying to stop them from doing further damage. Trying to use a city's reputation for robbery to cover up your BS is a low blow, and it was gross how many people took his side, even when they found out that he lied.
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Post by Critical on Nov 14, 2019 21:16:29 GMT
He's...not very bright, but not much different from a lot of athletes who live in the now and years down the line discover they are broke. :/ Haven't liked him ever since he deliberately lied and said he got robbed in Rio by gunpoint by some people in favelas when actually he and his friends were drunk, harassing people at a gas station and damaging property and urinating everywhere. The "robbers" were actually security guards trying to stop them from doing further damage. Trying to use a city's reputation for robbery to cover up your BS is a low blow, and it was gross how many people took his side, even when they found out that he lied. In all fairness, IIRC a good bit of what the authorities in Rio claimed happened was proven false. Lochte did lie, but they did too. I'll see if I can find an article detailing what actually happened. The short story is that neither side comes out looking great, but neither side is completely at fault either. I saw an interview with RL not long ago and the background on the report outlining what actually happened.
Yeah, he's not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but I don't think he's a bad guy. He's just good at ONE thing and that's a problem when there's an expiration date on doing that thing. It doesn't sound like he had much support or guidance coming up and that's what ALL young athletes need, regardless of their sport. The wildly successful athlete who ends up broke is an old and very common story.
It does sound like RL is trying to get his life together. I hope he can do it.
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Post by Kao on Nov 15, 2019 0:29:10 GMT
I think there was some question as to whether or not the security guards announced themselves as such when they arrived on the scene. It still doesn't excuse this drunken lout and his friends damaging property and peeing everywhere. Hopefully he's learned from this that you can't get away with everything by being a lovable goof and is actually trying to turn his life around.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 15, 2019 5:14:19 GMT
Lochte has a long history of atrocious behavior. So much so he was in conflict with his team. Lochte was suspended because he broke curfew and because he lied to his coach as to why he broke curfew. He did, in fact, make up a story about being held at gunpoint with the gun pointed directly against his head. Though the gas station owner did lie about Lochte trashing the bathroom Lochte is seen on camera relieving himself in public at that gas station. It didn't help hat he came back to the Olympic Athletes village stumbling drunk. The behavior of the gas station owner does not excuse Lochte's egregious behavior. He's not a victim. At all. He is a spoilt, entitled jerk who has absolutely no respect for his team, his coach or his promise to uphold The Olympic Oath. He certainly has a storied history of misbehaving at The Olympics. Lochte broke The Olympic Code Of Conduct as well as The Olympic Oath. Less than 1 % of athletes make it to the Olympics. It is an honor. You are not only representing yourself you are a representative of your country. The "Ugly American' is embodied by Lochte.
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Post by Kao on Nov 15, 2019 5:35:31 GMT
What really disgusted me was the fact that a lot of the Western media took the "Boys will be boys" road when they found out he lied. One of them described him as still being "a little boy who made a mistake" while I'm sitting over here thinking "That's a grown [censored] 32 year old man behaving like this!" Meanwhile, 12 year old Tamir Rice gets killed for playing with a toy gun by a cop who said he thought a 12 year old boy was an adult. We seem to have two sets of standards; one group is allowed to have a childhood well into their 40s and get excused for the most boorish of behaviors while the other isn't allowed a childhood at all. Lochte has been given chance after chance and expected his charm to get him out of trouble every time, and for the most part it worked until one day he took it too far and they banned him. At least Michael Phelps gracefully retired with his sponsorships, and has a second career of sorts by championing mental health.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Nov 15, 2019 5:57:30 GMT
What really disgusted me was the fact that a lot of the Western media took the "Boys will be boys" road when they found out he lied. One of them described him as still being "a little boy who made a mistake" while I'm sitting over here thinking "That's a grown [censored] 32 year old man behaving like this!" Meanwhile, 12 year old Tamir Rice gets killed for playing with a toy gun by a cop who said he thought a 12 year old boy was an adult. We seem to have two sets of standards; one group is allowed to have a childhood well into their 40s and get excused for the most boorish of behaviors while the other isn't allowed a childhood at all. Lochte has been given chance after chance and expected his charm to get him out of trouble every time, and for the most part it worked until one day he took it too far and they banned him. At least Michael Phelps gracefully retired with his sponsorships, and has a second career of sorts by championing mental health. And Phelps went to rehab when he was caught smoking pot. He put his life back together and turned it into an opportunity to grow and as you say, become a spokesperson of sorts for mental health. Bode Miller is another who grew up. He was a mess during his first two Olympics. He grew up. He'll always be rebellious, but not in a way that takes the shine from others or embarrasses others. 'I think it doesn't help, as you say, that there's a certain wink/nod with Lochte. He even had his own reality show precisely because of his inane behavior at The London Olympics. And Yeesh to Dancing With The Stars for casting him in an effort to rehabilitate his image after Rio. Meanwhile, he continued to drink and party. To the point he destroyed property at a hotel in 2018. Also interesting is Alex Rodriquez return to glory after being caught cheating multiple times-and LYING ABOUT IT BOTH TIMES! Some people do get all the chances and redos.
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Post by betty80 on Nov 27, 2019 22:42:36 GMT
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Post by betty80 on Dec 2, 2019 15:47:37 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Dec 2, 2019 20:43:02 GMT
So, I'm seeing that type of chatter online about it and it's like, this group came from a burlesque show in Vegas...this is how they typically perform.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Dec 16, 2019 17:48:57 GMT
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Post by Kao on Dec 17, 2019 7:02:34 GMT
The whole circumstances behind their divorce is...extremely sordid. After that mess with his wife and the stalker/lover I'm amazed he even tried to reconcile with her. I hope he finds happiness.
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Post by The Mod Team on Dec 17, 2019 21:35:59 GMT
We just had to delete posts discussing The View from this thread. We closed the thread for that show some time ago because we are not hosting any discussion of the show on this site. That doesn't mean you can just start talking about it in another thread. If there's actual NEWS about a "cast member" on the show - ie. Whoopi is having plastic surgery or Joy was caught in a sex scandal with Jimmy Swaggart - then by all means, have at it. Otherwise, you're just going to have to find somewhere else to discuss the actual show.
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Post by betty80 on Dec 18, 2019 1:17:54 GMT
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