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Post by Navybelle on Jan 12, 2023 3:28:41 GMT
Nicole is just too much. I really don't care for her, and poor Chris is sure in for it. I just want her to CALM down. She thinks she's hilarious, and I think she's too much! That was weird, though, how they each predicted each other's names.
Shaq's new wife is such a snot, and even though he "respected" her swerve when he went to kiss her, I thought it was snotty. Even her friend wasn't impressed with that.
Does anyone watch those after shows (after party)? I don't usually, but wonder if they're worth the time? Do you get more dirt?
WHAT did I just hear? Clint telling us he's slept with 65 partners -- why??? What makes one say this, on TV?? That's so weird. At first I was thinking he was more relatable than his fiancé, but after that, ew. Now the dog was cute, but them as a couple ... eh, not a fan.
End of the show is Airris and Jasmine's wedding. They keep bringing up his eff-boy past (which is recent past, if I'm reading right), but he says it's over, he's been through therapy, etc. His groomsmen question him about it, and laugh about it. At the wedding, Airris's cousin with her dress falling off, tells him he can still run. She's very skeptical, he's scared, and ... it's a cliffhanger. No previews of their wedding shown. Hmmm.
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Post by Critical on Jan 12, 2023 4:08:28 GMT
Nicole is just too much. I really don't care for her, and poor Chris is sure in for it. I just want her to CALM down. She thinks she's hilarious, and I think she's too much! That was weird, though, how they each predicted each other's names. Shaq's new wife is such a snot, and even though he "respected" her swerve when he went to kiss her, I thought it was snotty. Even her friend wasn't impressed with that. Does anyone watch those after shows (after party)? I don't usually, but wonder if they're worth the time? Do you get more dirt? WHAT did I just hear? Clint telling us he's slept with 65 partners -- why??? What makes one say this, on TV?? That's so weird. At first I was thinking he was more relatable than his fiancé, but after that, ew. Now the dog was cute, but them as a couple ... eh, not a fan. End of the show is Airris and Jasmine's wedding. They keep bringing up his eff-boy past (which is recent past, if I'm reading right), but he says it's over, he's been through therapy, etc. His groomsmen question him about it, and laugh about it. At the wedding, Airris's cousin with her dress falling off, tells him he can still run. She's very skeptical, he's scared, and ... it's a cliffhanger. No previews of their wedding shown. Hmmm. I can't comment on the episode yet since it just started here, but I do watch the Afterparty. I think Keshia Knight Pulliam does a good job hosting and yes, you do get some more info from cast members.
KNP's husband was on the panel last week and WOW is he a great catch. Total sweetheart. He gave a really good answer to one of her questions and I half expected her to turn to the camera and say, "And THAT is why I married him!"
Clint found that many people who were willing to have sex with him? Yikes. I guess there's no accounting for taste. Tequila goggles are real!
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jan 13, 2023 2:50:48 GMT
According to MAFS Instagram story.... {Spoiler} Only 1/5 couples say "yes" on Decision Day.
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Post by Critical on Jan 13, 2023 4:07:26 GMT
Speculation, not a spoiler.... I think it's pretty clear Mack and Dominique (sp is wrong, I know) don't stay together. I'm basing that on the previews of couples on D Day where she's wearing jeans and neither are shown in the DD room. I think Clint and Gina are dunzo too. I mean, I'm ready to flush him myself after watching him for a few episodes. What an absolute loser. She's FAR too good for him. Oddly enough, Chris and Nicole seem to like each other so far. I thought sure he wouldn't be into her at all. Maybe it's 'cause I find her irritating. Kirsten is horrible! I can't believe how rude she's being about Shaq's looks. I think he's adorable! Why do these people agree to be matched on this show if they're so closed-minded about looks!? I think he's a total catch. According to MAFS Instagram story.... {Spoiler}Only 1/5 couples say "yes" on Decision Day.
Whoops! I meant to post that last night and forgot. Thanks for getting it Also, {Spoiler}She's going to name the one couple who stays together after next week's episode.
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Post by Punkin on Jan 17, 2023 4:37:20 GMT
According to MAFS Instagram story.... {Spoiler} .
Typical for MAFS!
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Post by Critical on Jan 19, 2023 3:36:24 GMT
Great news. Briana and Vincent welcomed a baby girl!
NOW, here's the big spoiler from MAFSFan: {Spoiler} The one couple who stayed together this season is.....Chris and Nicole! Knock me over with a feather! I definitely didn't think they'd last. Apparently, not only did they stay together on D Day, they're still together.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jan 19, 2023 4:48:14 GMT
Aw, Congratulations to Briana and Vincent!
Re the spoiler: honestly not surprised. I think both really, really wanted this to work.
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Post by Critical on Jan 20, 2023 20:01:13 GMT
I haven't seen any spoilers revealing which husband hits on one of the other wives (maybe just another woman? ), but my money's on Clint or McKinley....but probably Clint. I think he's scummy AND the previews lean that way. We know the previews can be super misleading, but he does say something about "she's got no leg to stand on," in that argument with Gina, which might refer to the woman he hit on narcing on him. I like Pastor Cal and Dr. Pepper as people, but I think we need new experts or a new matching process. I think they are taking these people too much at their word. They need to have people doing a deep dive on SM accounts and maybe even interviewing friends/family. The questionnaire stuff just isn't weeding out some of the bad ones. Also, I think trolling SM for participants is a terrible idea. They need to go back to only taking people who actually APPLY to be on the show. Heck, I'd bet a computer matching system could do a better job!
ETA: Take from this what you will, but several people on IG have theorized that Domynique (SP?) was kicked off the show. The preview showed Pastor Cal saying something like, "So you lied" and then we see her carrying a box and crying. Plus, neither she nor McKinley are shown in any DDay footage. Even if the couple is 100% splitting up on DDay, we always at least get some footage of them. IIRC, someone mentions that something happens this season that has never happened before. Has anyone ever actually been kicked off the show?
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Post by rockytopchick on Jan 20, 2023 20:20:52 GMT
I can think of a couple of people who should have been kicked off the show (Atlanta Chris and Boston Alyssa come to mind) but still got more air time than they should have. Am wondering if someone does actually get kicked off, is it because of something that the experts should have found out about before the wedding
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Post by justCoz on Jan 20, 2023 23:08:49 GMT
My bet is on Clint too but I've been wrong before! I don't think they ever have kicked anybody off, even though there are a couple they should have. Not to mention the ones they never should have picked to be on the show in the first place. There are times I've wondered what they were thinking putting some of the couples together. There are times when you really think it's not going to work. But I was also thinking last night that probably no one would match MrCoz and me together from a questionnaire but we've been happily married for over 30 years.
I am always amazed when these guys think they deserve a model looking person when their looks certainly aren't equal to that. Not that they're bad looking, but not model types themselves. But all of them with very specific requirements are ridiculous anyhow. They know looks don't stay the same, right? The one who doesn't want a bald guy, okay, but how do you make sure whoever you marry doesn't eventuality have that? I'm also pretty sure a lot of them don't really know what it means to say for better or worse.
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Post by Critical on Jan 26, 2023 8:22:26 GMT
I love how, for some of the wives, taking off their makeup doesn't include all that eye shadow, liner and 2 inch long eyelashes "My natural state" my behind. I get that Kirsten was bummed about not starting the honeymoon right away, but she didn't have to sit in that hotel room and mope. Couldn't she have gotten out into the city to sight see? Book a massage or mani/pedi? That felt like her trying to play the victim. She had a whole day and decided to just sit around and act like a baby. Obviously, that wasn't ideal timing, but Shaq couldn't just bail on his academic obligations and go on his honeymoon.
I'm surprised by how much more I like Nicole now than I did in the beginning. I liked that, after speaking with his family, she decided that she needed to be the person to protect his feelings and take care of him. They both seem very committed to the process.
Clint still gives me the creeps. I don't think that's going to change. I really REALLY need him to put his shirt back on. Permanently.
It looks like next week might be when things start to hit the fan.
ETA: Domynique pronouncing salmon "SALL-mon" =
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Post by nicksmom on Jan 26, 2023 19:11:40 GMT
I like Nicole and Chris too. She looks so much better without that wedding make up. They seem to listen to each other and are there for the right reasons. Her story about her old boyfriend was so sad.
Saw a spoiler on Mac and Dom. I think that guy may have anger issues. Why would they show us him being mad about not being in first class. They must come from money if his mother offered him $50,000 not to go through with this.
Yes! Kirstin did not have to sit in the hotel room. When he told her about it he said she could listen to thing. She was the one big on education,it was only one day.
Clint needs to cut that hair or something. I see in the preview that he is not her type at all.
I think I missed a lot because I was doing something else while watching. Also heard that it is staying 90 minutes instead of 2 hours .
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Post by Critical on Jan 27, 2023 4:08:24 GMT
MAFSFan had a pic of Clint with his hair shorter. It wasn't much of an improvement. I find him pretty unattractive/unappealing. It's his attitude, his voice, his appearance, everything. I'm glad they're cutting the episodes down to 90 minutes. It's better to have 90 minutes of show, followed by 30 of the after party and then you're done. Someone who attended Shaq and Kirsten's wedding claims that they did kiss at the reception. The show is editing things to make it look like she's refusing to kiss him, when apparently, she already did Not surprising, but still annoying when they edit things to create a false narrative.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 27, 2023 6:20:38 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised when it was only 90 minutes with the 30 minutes after party.
Nicole's story was so sad, really heartbreakingly sad. I hope she has a long, happy, healthy marriage. MAFS doesn't often get it right, but when they do it's usually really, really right. I hope for her sake that this is one of those times.
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Post by Critical on Jan 27, 2023 7:28:54 GMT
I was pleasantly surprised when it was only 90 minutes with the 30 minutes after party. Nicole's story was so sad, really heartbreakingly sad. I hope she has a long, happy, healthy marriage. MAFS doesn't often get it right, but when they do it's usually really, really right. I hope for her sake that this is one of those times. I find myself rooting for Nicole and Chris, for sure. It's so funny how our opinions can change SO drastically from the casting special/season premiere to even a few episodes into the season. I thought for sure Nicole would be super annoying, but I'm really impressed with how seriously she's taking this and how much she's thinking about making the marriage work and being a good partner for Chris. I hope Chris is going to be the same way for her. It seems like TPTB think viewers care about drama (and maybe some do), but I'd much rather watch couples who are truly committed to the process and who work through their problems like adults.
It seems that most people who do this show are all about whether the other person is right for them, but they never seem to think about whether they themselves are a good partner.
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Post by justCoz on Jan 27, 2023 13:44:46 GMT
Critical they do have a lot of people that think it's all about them! They act like it's a restaurant where they looked at the menu, then gave their order, and expect to have it filled exactly how they dictated.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jan 27, 2023 22:02:22 GMT
About a week ago or so in the previews they show a scene where all the couples are together on the honeymoon and Clint makes some comment about how in the past he's always dated much slimmer women, or something to that effect. That seemed to be a dig towards his wife Gina, who has a curvier figure. Someone else piped up, (Mac?) about how he should consider himself lucky. Paraphrasing.
Then this week we see a preview of Gina saying something alone to Clint, about how she's not attracted to gingers or hasn't been in the past. I really need to pay better attention or rewatch. Again, I'm paraphrasing.
My point is: Which came first? Clint or Gina's conversation? If Gina expressed her dissatisfaction to Clint first, I can see him lashing out at Gina to the others b/c his feelings were probably hurt. Still not cool, though, to make those comments to the other couples.
I don't think Aarris is attracted to Jasmine. On Afterparty he said his type was Lauren London. I had to look her up. She's a biracial actress. I also don't think he likes that Jasmine is so tall.
I also wish KKP would stop asking the guests on Afterparty what their type is. It does no good. If the participants are going to be so picky wrt to a certain look, they shouldn't be going on MAFS.
Kirsten isn't attracted to Shaq. She could do worse. She's pretty but looks fade. He seems like a good match, if she'd get over the baldness.
Fingers crossed for Chris and Nicole. I agree that she's been a lot less hyper than we originally were led to believe she was.
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Post by ccfromcan on Jan 29, 2023 0:53:08 GMT
I think Arris should have been matched with Kirsten and Shaq matched with Jasmine. That makes more sense to me.
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Post by Critical on Jan 29, 2023 21:04:20 GMT
Critical they do have a lot of people that think it's all about them! They act like it's a restaurant where they looked at the menu, then gave their order, and expect to have it filled exactly how they dictated. Yeah, it's so weird. I mean, everyone is allowed to want or to be attracted to whatever they want, but why then go on a show where you're matched, blind, by and to a stranger? If you're that picky, hire an actual matchmaker that you pay to get you what you want.
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Post by Critical on Jan 30, 2023 5:58:45 GMT
I think Arris should have been matched with Kirsten and Shaq matched with Jasmine. That makes more sense to me. I don't think those would be any worse than the matches they DID make this season, that's for sure It seems like they sometimes match couples on looks....I mean that they match couples who look alike. I think Airris and Jasmine look like they could be related. Same with Nate and Stacia last season and we know how that worked out.
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Post by Navybelle on Feb 6, 2023 4:24:08 GMT
I just got to the part where Gina tells Clint she doesn't like "gingers" and doesn't find them attractive. How rude! At first, their conversation seemed okay, she was saying how she knows attraction can grow over time, and how neither of them are feeling wild attraction to each other right now. But then she took it to a personal level, something he can't do anything about.
Kirsten is still too much for me, as is Nicole. Kirsten knows she's pretty, and comes off very full of herself. Nicole has a sad story, but she's so off-putting to me, but at least nice Chris seems to like her.
I will say it's nice that there are so many regular bodies on this season -- they're not all stick-thin models or muscular hunks, so that's refreshing.
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Post by Critical on Feb 6, 2023 20:20:08 GMT
Spoiler about the rumor about one husband hitting on a wife from another couple...
{Spoiler} MAFSFan has video from what seems to be one of the episodes from after DDay. The footage shows Domynique and CLINT kissing. Airris and, I think, Jasmine are shown in the background, reacting. So yeah, gross. Unless something happens that shows Mack is a scumbag, I think Clint is a definitely a step or twenty down. Says a lot about Dom too.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 8, 2023 15:47:10 GMT
Critical I saw your spoiler on a preview last night. Looks like the editors are already starting to throw them under the bus and then run over them a few times, if not more than that!
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Post by Critical on Feb 8, 2023 20:39:50 GMT
Critical I saw your spoiler on a preview last night. Looks like the editors are already starting to throw them under the bus and then run over them a few times, if not more than that! Well, their contract does say the producers can use the footage to make them look terrible (paraphrasing, obviously). I guess that's what they're doing.
I always think of Kelly from RW New Orleans talking about how people on reality shows complain about being made to look bad: "You did say it and you did do it." You can't edit IN a bad personality.
How soon before one of these people says, "I'm a really good person"?
We haven't seen the episode yet, but it definitely seems like Clint's comments about his type are in retaliation for Gina's comments about gingers. She did admit on the Afterparty that she was far too honest in that moment. Still, in spite of the fact that, yes, they were both on camera, she did make her comments to him; he said what he said in front of the rest of the couples, which was more rude, IMO.
Maybe I'll change my mind after seeing the episode....but probably not. I still will probably think Clint is gross.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 9, 2023 22:36:52 GMT
I don't much care for Clint. Having said that, I get where he's coming from. As a redhead, I found her statements offensive. Having myself been on the receiving end of numerous derogatory and completely unacceptable comments, especially when I was younger, I can only imagine that Clint has as well. The women all took offense because what he said was over their body types that they can't change. Do they not understand that he can't change his "ginger features" either? She certainly didn't mean what she said as a compliment. And saying you "specialize" in working with gingers does not give her the right to say what she did. If she thinks that what she said is okay, then what he said would be okay too. Frankly, I don't think either one of them should have said what they did. I also don't think Clint did a good job of explaining on the after party why what she said wasn't right. I've been enjoying Keisha Knight Pulliam as host, but I did not think she did a good job in this instance. She did give Clint a chance to explain, but after he couldn't explain well, she chalked it up to his wife "just stating her preference". Which is exactly what Clint did as well. Should he have done it in the group setting, no. But the women all feeling offended also should have been able to see that what his wife said was offensive too. Just maybe if he had mentioned the terms 'carrot top' and 'redheaded stepchild' Keisha might have realized she has at least known of not so great terminology regarding having red hair. That's just the tip of the iceberg of things I've heard directed towards me. Now I'm angry that the show is making me defend Clint!
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Post by DoodleMom921 on Feb 14, 2023 0:13:59 GMT
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Post by cavendish on Feb 14, 2023 0:45:12 GMT
Sounds to me like they regret being on MAFS and found it not a very beneficial time-- despite the boilerplate about not regretting it, and being grateful for the experience. I was actually not clear why they stayed married, except that they had sunk a good deal of time and emotion and hope into the relationship. Once you do that you probably need to play it out to the end. There was always this sense that everything could fall apart at any moment-- and that there was a knot of confusion and blame, that could escalate almost immediately into a bewildering sense of anguish, and that surfaced at any moment and from the most trivial sort of events. I was always worried that Lindy in particular was not being helped to cope with these blowups..'
But then I do find the way this program very deficient in picking the individuals, matching the couples. and acting to prevent actual harm from being done during the process. Like others, I like Dr Pepper and Rev Cal-- but I question how they can lend themselves to a process that very much seems, in many instances, to be destructive or potentially to hurt the people they pick. They always shows such cheery confidence in the couples they choose-- but surely they can't have failed to notice that these things rarely work out-- and that they must be very painful for those involved. I do also get the sense when they're matching the pairs, it's sort of mix-and-match of a bunch of individuals, rather than the finding of people who would be compatible per se.
I'm seriously considering not watching this time around. I mostly have ended up feeling sort of dragged down myself, as if I'm colluding in the whole sad affair, just by watching people get mired in treating others and being treated badly.
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Post by Critical on Feb 14, 2023 4:30:21 GMT
Not surprised about Lindy and Miguel. I was surprised they said yes on D Day.
MAFSFan said several months ago that she believed that both Lindy and Miguel and Karen and Miles (New Orleans) had split, but she didn't have any proof yet. Now we wait for Miles and Karen to make their announcement. He hasn't posted any pics of her on his IG in over a year and she has posted any pics of him in over 6 months. That might not mean a thing, but they previously posted pics together A LOT.
As for the current season, Chris and Nicole are the only couple I have any hope for.
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Post by Critical on Feb 16, 2023 6:26:39 GMT
The producers on this show are cr@p. You KNOW they knew they would likely have couples who, collectively, had more than two dogs when they were working on finding an apartment building. I totally felt for Chris when he found out that he might be separated from his dogs. I hope he appreciates Nicole and how she really stepped up and sacrificed so that he could be with his dogs. I hope this doesn't become a pattern in their relationship, where she makes all the sacrifices to protect/nurture him.
Frankly, I would have given the producers an ultimatum. Either they work it out so that all three dogs can be in the apartment or we're moving into one of our homes. I'm sure they paid a good amount of money for space in that building, and the fact they're giving the complex/is enough that they could make an exception. I know I definitely wouldn't be away from my cats/have them living in a house without me for that long.
Clint has a BIG shovel that he's digging that hole with. Good grief, dude. Stop talking! He's also one of those people who misuses words a lot. It's like that sketch on In Living Color where the convicts use big words to sound intelligent, but they keep misusing them. He and Gina have been "put through the rigors."
Airris would not be making that many "executive decisions" if he lived in my house!
I really wish they'd stop asking the couples to do the 1-10 rating on their marriage. It only leads to hurt feelings.
I wasn't happy about how the ladies on AP tried to pile on and mock Chris and reaction over the dog situation, but I was proud of how Nicole stood up to them. That was mean girl behavior, IMO. If you've ever really loved a pet, you get it. Comparing Chris to Justin last season was sh!tty.
So, two weeks before their wedding, Airris slept with a girl they both knew. Yikes.
Dom getting upset over Mack's living situation was horrible. He'd been in Nashville for 5 months and didn't want to get stuck in a lease or a mortgage until he had been in the city longer. Plus, he'd signed up for this show, so he knew his situation could change. Dom's immaturity is really showing.
We know the editing on this show can be really manipulative, but the preview for next week's episode makes things look pretty bad.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Feb 16, 2023 14:48:02 GMT
Agree 100% with everything you said, Critical. I was surprised by KKP's reaction on After-party about Chris's dogs, considering she said she was a dog person. Nicole stood her ground and looked pretty pissed at KKP. Why was Stacia there? She added nothing. I wish they would drop the special guests and just have 3 from the current season on AP. We know the questions asked at the group dinners are producer-driven, but nowhere was it more apparent then when Chris asked Airris if he could fall in love with Jasmine. I say obvious because Chris is the least confrontational person there and fairly passive. Not a dig, as I like Chris.
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