The Real Housewives of New York

LOL!  I guess I can just move on then..😊

I was listening to Radio Andy this morning and they were talking about the scary island episodes from years ago, which they were guessing was Sonja’s first season and how dramatically different she was. She was very reserved and generally proper about everything. She’s either putting on an act now or was then.

She was on WWHL with Keith Hernandez and since he’s a straight single man with money, she made a fool of herself hitting on him. I thought the funniest part was when he revealed he dated Luann briefly before she was with the count, and was infatuated with her. Oh how I’d love to see him started dating Luann now after Sonja had her chance and blew it!

I want to read it.

The Ladies on the The View discussed it Friday.

I cannot remember what they said Carole said .... was it that BF was just "showing off" because you should not take a camera crew with you when you are helping the 
poor people of PR because its just makes you (BF in this case) like one big SHOW OFF. 

Anyway, off to read it. 

I have. It's juicy! In one part she says this is how you react when you see poverty for the first time.

I do wonder how helpful the giftcards are in remote villages. It's still good work.

Love your post acooker. That's exactly what I was thinking. We think to address the immediate needs but sometimes hurt the long term plan or sustainability. Or rather, do not think of the long term plan. What good are gift cards if there aren't stores to use them? Or electricity? Or transportation?

There are so many non-profits that work and work well and seeing celebrities create their own foundations and charities seem like vanity projects. What if Bethany assisted Doctors Without Borders or Habitat for Humanity? Get on a private plane and repair a roof?

I tune into escape..I'm not hiding me head in the sand, I just dont want to see BF in PR every episode, but I dont think we will.

As for Adam, he cant afford to take time off, he doesn't have the $$$ BF does..

Just a small example of when you travel to country you are told not to give candy or small gifts to the children because then they start to associate tourists with free gifts. I thought about this when Dorinda gave a Barbie to a young girl. I also thought of the dignity of the people that were televised.

I also took a look at 'B Strong''s website and it's just...not good.

I'm HERE! Thanks to JustJuls I found FORT.


And I like Bethenny very much. It takes all kinds on the RH shows.

Re Red Cross. You have it backwords.  The outrage came, because in the past, the Red Cross would tell  potential donors that all of their donations would be used for a specific crisis, not the other way around. They would use that money for other endeavors other than the crisis. In California, for example,  instead of using all the money it asked the public for to help with the forest fires, some of it was used to install a new phone system in a local RC  office.  The Red Cross was sued over the many time it did this.  If  a non profit asks for money for a disaster, it has to use the money only for that cause. Otherwise, it's misleading. This is why NOW  you see a  tag line   when asking for funds, is will say...for hurricane relief and other causes. 

The volunteers do great work but as a non profit corporation it has had major issues.

Bethany made Puerto Rico about herself and her perceived achiebements. She inflated her accomplishments(ex. she was the first person to get a plane). As others noted, the gift cards are ridiculous. Giving them to people clearly trapped in remote locations is both cruel and impractical. But, for Bethany, helping people there is about focusing on how much money she raised (ex. stating the bags filled with 100,000 dollars worth of gift cards are heavy).Bethany is a "I" and a "me" person. She couldn't even give Richard his due. Instead of treating his accomplishments with respect(Richard was a man who quietly raised millions and millions of dollars per benefit for various causes, charities and disaster relief) she described him to her two guests as someone in N.Y. who had some "minor power." I also felt the episode was edited to make a certain economic class of people stuck in the disaster look utterly incapable and totally dependent on this nice, white lady with money. It took advantage of their situation in order to make B look like a great white savior. Those damned gift cards aren't going to get them clean clothes, electricity, medicine or basics. It was a one dimensional, clichéd editing. I'd rather know how they've made it through this far-because it takes spirit, guts, ingenuity and the choice not to panic in order to keep going. I just find B exhausting to be around. The constant need to be praised. The constant wagging of her finger at every other housewife. She's definitely a list taker of other peoples shortcomings. She takes out that list to manipulate, degrade, conflate and play with them like she's a cat pawing at a mouse.
Case in point? Inviting Dorinda along to Puerto Rico. B offered that invitation, not freely, but with attachments. Based on whether or not Dorinda would 'behave.' When Dorinda became drunk (was Bethany honestly shocked that Dorinda was drunk?) B teased Dorinda by then threatening to withhold the trip to Puerto Rico. AS punishment for not living up to B's hypocritical moral standards.
Then, Bethany , with Dorinda trapped on her private plane a few thousand feet in the sky, tells Dorinda she gives Dorinda the most leeway in comparison to the other HONY, because Dorinda is a drunk. We hear B's usual victimhood by saying Dorinda has hurt her repeatedly, but she has tolerated it because Dorinda is a drunk. Unless Dorinda wants to jump out of the window to her death she has to sit there and take it. And doesn't B know it! But, here's the problem with Bethany's logic: She has RUINED every single one of Dorinda's get together because of excessive drinking on her part while combining that with rude, boorish, crude, offensive, selfish behavior. She's every kind of awful behavior she points out in others.
She is utterly insufferable. Utterly narcissistic. And the resident expert on things she knows nothing about, like grieving. And you all know if any one of the housewives were to treat B the way she treats them, B would be offended, enraged, appalled and filled with self-righteous indignation.
I think Bethany resents people like Dorinda because B is incapable of expressing, receiving and giving genuine, pure romantic love(and all it's complexities) to a partner, the way Dorinda and Richard were capable of doing. I think that resentment extends to friendships, too. Carols no longer  acting in a way that benefits B, so now Carol is a target of B's bitter wrath. B needs to be the sole beneficiary of a relationship, she has to control her relationships to the point that if that friend does or says anything that B perceives as autonomous or independent, they are betraying B. 

The gift cards were usable. They were treated like money there and the people were able to buy food, clothes etc. Unsure why you believe they were worthless unless you don't understand the type of card they were and they did have places to use them. Also, it wasn't Bethenny that was drunk at Dorindas. I think you all hate Bethanny so much, you make stuff up. I'm not a big Bethanny fan but it amazes me the crap on these boards about her that is made up to make your point.

I appreciated seeing Carole not back down to Bethenny. It did seem to have B a bit flustered, and not the other way around like B was trying to paint it.

I’m kinda love/hate with Bethenny. She’s definitely entertaining, but she indeed does talk over people and is a know-it-all. After all, maybe she does ‘know it all!’

They were both giving me a headache lol