prism
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Post by prism on May 21, 2021 0:17:25 GMT
I agree Eboni is a great addition to this show. Sonja would benefit greatly with talking to a therapist. She needs to get off the show. I wonder what her daughter thinks about her behavior.. Next episode is going to be drama loaded, I'm sure. I wonder what the Morgan family thinks- they must cringe. She's not part of the family, she was thrown away by her ex - she never mentions them having a post-marriage friendly relationship, or gatherings with Morgans who became close family/friends while she was married, no talk about getting together with the ex and the daughter. They apparently want nothing whatever to do with her. Sonja simply has zero self respect- to constantly bleat "Morgan Morgan Morgan" how awfully humiliating. She's an alcoholic, she's made a blithering fool of herself with her ugly sex antics; and she's living far above her income, that alone is eating away at her. Apparently she just cannot help herself. She doesn't seem particularly smart. What a wreck.
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Post by JustJuls on May 21, 2021 1:27:18 GMT
All of this is true. And yet I find her completely endearing.
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Post by FannyMare on May 21, 2021 4:21:24 GMT
I agree Eboni is a great addition to this show. Sonja would benefit greatly with talking to a therapist. She needs to get off the show. I wonder what her daughter thinks about her behavior.. Next episode is going to be drama loaded, I'm sure. I wonder what the Morgan family thinks- they must cringe. She's not part of the family, she was thrown away by her ex - she never mentions them having a post-marriage friendly relationship, or gatherings with Morgans who became close family/friends while she was married, no talk about getting together with the ex and the daughter. They apparently want nothing whatever to do with her. Sonja simply has zero self respect- to constantly bleat "Morgan Morgan Morgan" how awfully humiliating. She's an alcoholic, she's made a blithering fool of herself with her ugly sex antics; and she's living far above her income, that alone is eating away at her. Apparently she just cannot help herself. She doesn't seem particularly smart. What a wreck. Yup she's a wreck. She can be nice, when she isn't drinking
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Post by beerbelly on May 21, 2021 9:47:34 GMT
All of this is true. And yet I find her completely endearing. I feel the same.
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Post by prism on May 21, 2021 13:10:19 GMT
All of this is true. And yet I find her completely endearing. Yes! If Sonja could lose the pretense, slow down on liquor, maybe even get off the HW show, sell that toney condo for big dollars; then scale back to a liveable lifestyle, she'd have a chance at happiness. She has a great outlook on life, but what a wreck she is right now. She's a good egg at heart - not like that Ramona woman who is preternaturally upside down in this world.
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Post by FannyMare on May 21, 2021 16:08:24 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on May 21, 2021 16:58:19 GMT
Oh boy, FoRT HW Fans, I have not seen this week's episode yet but I did just watch the video FannyMare posted. Poor J .... she does need some professional help. And not from "healers". AND certainly not Mona. Mona can be annoying. Saying stuff over and over and over again like in the video "stop the drinking". It's true J needs to pull back from all the drinking but Mona is not her mother, J does not need Mona barking in her ear. As far as J leaving HW .... she really needs the HW money as it seems everything else she gets involved with has gone bankrupt.
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Post by FannyMare on May 21, 2021 17:46:14 GMT
Oh boy, FoRT HW Fans, I have not seen this week's episode yet but I did just watch the video FannyMare posted. Poor J .... she does need some professional help. And not from "healers". AND certainly not Mona. Mona can be annoying. Saying stuff over and over and over again like in the video "stop the drinking". It's true J needs to pull back from all the drinking but Mona is not her mother, J does not need Mona barking in her ear. As far as J leaving HW .... she really needs the HW money as it seems everything else she gets involved with has gone bankrupt. It's just horrible imho to watch. She is Dorinda 2.0 at this point, drunk and babbling.
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Post by momrek06 on May 21, 2021 17:54:53 GMT
Oh boy, FoRT HW Fans, I have not seen this week's episode yet but I did just watch the video FannyMare posted. Poor J .... she does need some professional help. And not from "healers". AND certainly not Mona. Mona can be annoying. Saying stuff over and over and over again like in the video "stop the drinking". It's true J needs to pull back from all the drinking but Mona is not her mother, J does not need Mona barking in her ear. As far as J leaving HW .... she really needs the HW money as it seems everything else she gets involved with has gone bankrupt. It's just horrible imho to watch. She is Dorinda 2.0 at this point, drunk and babbling. It is horrible to watch but I think it's when all the ladies gather to dine ANYWHERE (from HW's homes to restaurants) that all the drinking starts. Mona even said as the ladies confirmed in the premier that no one saw J for months and months. I am guessing J was not drinking (or if she was it was not to raging drunk status) during their months of lockdown esp if she was all alone like J actually said herself. She said she loved being at the Brownstone alone with her puppy and just chilling. Yup, it's the ladies gathering together, drinking ensues and then they all start pushing each other's buttons which results in anger and screaming.
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Post by FannyMare on May 21, 2021 18:12:33 GMT
It's just horrible imho to watch. She is Dorinda 2.0 at this point, drunk and babbling. It is horrible to watch but I think it's when all the ladies gather to dine ANYWHERE (from HW's homes to restaurants) that all the drinking starts. Mona even said as the ladies confirmed in the premier that no one saw J for months and months. I am guessing J was not drinking (or if she was it was not to raging drunk status) during their months of lockdown esp if she was all alone like J actually said herself. She said she loved being at the Brownstone alone with her puppy and just chilling. Yup, it's the ladies gathering together, drinking ensues and then they all start pushing each other's buttons which results in anger and screaming. All Ramona said, was something about Wells Fargo, and Sonja went nuts .I'd have to walk away, and we dont know if Sonja drank when she was alone or not, do we? It doesn't matter if anyone else is drinking, when it's obvious, just like Dorinda, Sonja has a problem. They drink on NJ, and only Jen gets really drunk, but she usually falls down. She doesn't become belligerent, like Sonja
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Post by acookertv on May 21, 2021 18:23:04 GMT
Drunk Sonja finds all her worth from being associated with the Morgan family and having lived a life where she met famous people. When she is sober it's not nearly as bad. But since she was drunk and went off on a tirade, she missed the opportunity to give her ex family props because Eboni was saying she'd pay a higher interest rate to a company (Chase) that is making very deliberate investments in the black community and deserves applause for it.
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Post by JustJuls on May 21, 2021 18:27:12 GMT
Yes...unfortunately all of that got looked over because of the mess that Sonja became. I do wonder what the Morgan family thinks.
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Post by momrek06 on May 21, 2021 18:29:20 GMT
I heard Mona say three times to J "stop the drinking". But yes J went OFF THE RAILS when Mona and Eboni agreed that Wells Fargo's rates were better vs Chase. But to PUSH Mona, unacceptable. Completely. J's face was so red from the alcohol. And finally YES YES YES J sooooooo has to REMOVE herself from anything to do with the Morgan's BUT SHE WON'T.
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Post by FannyMare on May 21, 2021 19:10:18 GMT
I heard Mona say three times to J "stop the drinking". But yes J went OFF THE RAILS when Mona and Eboni agreed that Wells Fargo's rates were better vs Chase. But to PUSH Mona, unacceptable. Completely. J's face was so red from the alcohol. And finally YES YES YES J sooooooo has to REMOVE herself from anything to do with the Morgan's BUT SHE WON'T. She won't remove herself, I don't think she can. That's why she's depressed, and medication and alcohol don't mix. She gets drunk very fast, a sure sign it's something else, not just alchohol. Ramona isn't her mother , but everytime they try and have one meal, the drunk happens. Leah is a strange drunk as well. I'm very glad she's sober, so rather than nitpick at Ramona non stop , maybe she should say something? ..I guess we all like who we like, but if you have had a Sonja in your life, it's tiring and upsetting having everything spoilt..:-( every plan ruined, because you're watching them
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Post by momrek06 on May 21, 2021 19:22:24 GMT
Sonja and Mona have basically a love hate relationship. When they are sober they are the bestest friends when alcohol is involved they are horrible to each other. Then the next day when they are sober they are hugging each other and saying they are there for each other forever. That CONVO happens esp when the HW's travel and they arrive at their location and Mona and J start with "WE HAVE TO ROOM TOGETHER BECAUSE WE ALWAYS HAVE AND ALWAYS WILL".
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Post by prism on May 21, 2021 19:38:19 GMT
Drunk Sonja finds all her worth from being associated with the Morgan family and having lived a life where she met famous people. When she is sober it's not nearly as bad. But since she was drunk and went off on a tirade, she missed the opportunity to give her ex family props because Eboni was saying she'd pay a higher interest rate to a company (Chase) that is making very deliberate investments in the black community and deserves applause for it. Do you think Sonja has a lasting relationship with members of the Morgan family? She may have been married to the guy for eight years or so, but never talks about family gatherings that would be typical when the divorced couple still has high regard for one another and for extended family. Her ex must be around 90 years old by now; if not re-married he might depend on Sonja for friendship.
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Post by JustJuls on May 21, 2021 20:35:27 GMT
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Post by acookertv on May 21, 2021 21:32:20 GMT
Drunk Sonja finds all her worth from being associated with the Morgan family and having lived a life where she met famous people. When she is sober it's not nearly as bad. But since she was drunk and went off on a tirade, she missed the opportunity to give her ex family props because Eboni was saying she'd pay a higher interest rate to a company (Chase) that is making very deliberate investments in the black community and deserves applause for it. Do you think Sonja has a lasting relationship with members of the Morgan family? She may have been married to the guy for eight years or so, but never talks about family gatherings that would be typical when the divorced couple still has high regard for one another and for extended family. Her ex must be around 90 years old by now; if not re-married he might depend on Sonja for friendship. I have no idea what kind of relationship she has with the family - if any. Since her daughter has never been a part of the show, it seems clear to me that they don't want that to be made public. Sure, that could be interpreted as not approving. It could also be interpreted as wealthy powerful families usually don't want their lives aired out in public like that, so they choose not to be a part of it. It doesn't matter enough to me to give it a great deal of thought. I'm entertained by what they put on the show and that's good enough for me.
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Post by momrek06 on May 22, 2021 1:08:52 GMT
I just finished watching this week's episode. Mona is so bossy. I have a friend JUST LIKE her but I can only take her in small amounts. Mona basically demanding Leah change her clothes.......what....... SHUT UP MONA. Then (which the video link did not show) Mona taking J's glass of wine away from her. That is NONE OF MONA's business. Mona can LEAVE if she is not happy with J but taking it away and Eboni taking it from Mona, all kinds of wrong (JMHO). That was a funny clip of J and LU in the car driving to Mona's as LU talked all about Garth!!! I am happy for LU!!! I thought Eboni's chat with Mona about "the help" comment went very well. I was all kinds of confused about the ANTIBODIES discussion. What was Mona saying she had Covid but her body has plasma full of antibodies so she donated her plasma? I LOVED J's comment that Mona did not do that because it was not on INSTAGRAM. Mona gets all pissed off and decides to hit the ladies room........LORDY, Mona announcing that she has DIARRHEA was ridiculous. Mona walking away from the ladies with J and then HOWLING............whattttttttt??? J and that random man at the winery........... THAT DINNER IN THE EVENING where LU and J were wearing matching tops (which I personally thought were hideous) was a TRAIN WRECK. The drinking all day led to SCREAMING, SWEARING and PUSHING in the evening. OMG. Screaming and swearing about Chase Bank vs Wells Fargo. Facetiming Garth leads to screaming by J that she decides to facetime friends. All at a dinner IN a lovely restaurant. WHAT A MESS. Sonja, clearly has some real issues. I hope and pray J gets some serious professional help.
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Post by FannyMare on May 22, 2021 1:32:04 GMT
I just finished watching this week's episode. Mona is so bossy. I have a friend JUST LIKE her but I can only take her in small amounts. Mona basically demanding Leah change her clothes.......what....... SHUT UP MONA. Then (which the video link did not show) Mona taking J's glass of wine away from her. That is NONE OF MONA's business. Mona can LEAVE if she is not happy with J but taking it away and Eboni taking it from Mona, all kinds of wrong (JMHO). That was a funny clip of J and LU in the car driving to Mona's as LU talked all about Garth!!! I am happy for LU!!! I thought Eboni's chat with Mona about "the help" comment went very well. I was all kinds of confused about the ANTIBODIES discussion. What was Mona saying she had Covid but her body has plasma full of antibodies so she donated her plasma? I LOVED J's comment that Mona did not do that because it was not on INSTAGRAM. Mona gets all pissed off and decides to hit the ladies room........LORDY, Mona announcing that she has DIARRHEA was ridiculous. Mona walking away from the ladies with J and then HOWLING............whattttttttt??? J and that random man at the winery........... THAT DINNER IN THE EVENING where LU and J were wearing matching tops (which I personally thought were hideous) was a TRAIN WRECK. The drinking all day led to SCREAMING, SWEARING and PUSHING in the evening. OMG. Screaming and swearing about Chase Bank vs Wells Fargo. Facetiming Garth leads to screaming by J that she decides to facetime friends. All at a dinner IN a lovely restaurant. WHAT A MESS. Sonja, clearly has some real issues. I hope and pray J gets some serious professional help. I was hoping Sonja would get professional help after seeing herself last season, I dont think she did. She seems to think crystals and a colonic help.. ( like Leah) Ramona had blood tests and seems to think she helped with plasma and testing ,obviously she got it wrong, but Leah had to make it a huge deal for half the meal.. Eboni tried to tell Leah what she heard, but Leah is never wrong, except when she is I'm happy for Lu Sonja seems pissed off with her as well.
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Post by acookertv on May 22, 2021 10:28:49 GMT
I think a big problem for Sonya is that she wants fame and fortune desperately, and sees the show as key to getting that. Being a mess keeps her on the show. So I think she’s reluctant to really make her life better because she’s fearful it will take away the things she wants.
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Post by kk4 on May 22, 2021 16:41:45 GMT
Poor Sonja- she does need help. I will say, however, that the scene with Ramona and Sonja about the prints made me laugh out loud- even your glasses are print! Priceless - this is what I love about NY
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Post by prism on May 25, 2021 16:52:07 GMT
Do you think Sonja has a lasting relationship with members of the Morgan family? She may have been married to the guy for eight years or so, but never talks about family gatherings that would be typical when the divorced couple still has high regard for one another and for extended family. Her ex must be around 90 years old by now; if not re-married he might depend on Sonja for friendship. I have no idea what kind of relationship she has with the family - if any. Since her daughter has never been a part of the show, it seems clear to me that they don't want that to be made public. Sure, that could be interpreted as not approving. It could also be interpreted as wealthy powerful families usually don't want their lives aired out in public like that, so they choose not to be a part of it. It doesn't matter enough to me to give it a great deal of thought. I'm entertained by what they put on the show and that's good enough for me. Oh, I thought you know quite a few of them personally. They are entertaining - that's for sure!
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Post by JustJuls on May 25, 2021 17:28:06 GMT
Now...now....
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Post by JustJuls on May 26, 2021 17:14:27 GMT
New York is by far the messiest cast of all. These women are absolutely bonkers and I feel so badly for Eboni who is actually a normal human being I really enjoyed the 2 hours that Leah didn't speak
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Post by FannyMare on May 26, 2021 18:37:40 GMT
I wish Leah had taken a vow of silence for the rest of the season. I liked seeing Heather, but Leah had all the ammo ready against her.. I wonder if Eboni wished she hadn't joined? she doesn't know the history between Sonja and Lu, so I was glad Lu stood up for herself.. I'm over the coddling Sonja.. I'm no prude, but I'm tired of Leah talking about men aren't men, if they dont eat *ss, seriously how old is she?
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Post by woodiedog on May 26, 2021 22:41:04 GMT
The only thing I took away from last night’s episode is that Ramona is very demanding and a micromanager when it comes to assistants, drivers, bartenders, chefs, etc. The hamptons is a small community. I wonder if word got around that Mona is hard to work for?
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Post by beerbelly on May 27, 2021 3:07:23 GMT
I don't know much about Southhampton, but if it's anything like Westhampton or Easthampton...yup, small town! I was just with a friend who has a place out there who told me that her croquet club was very dramatic and scandalous. A croquet club!!! So I can just imagine the gossip about Ramona! Especially working for her.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Jun 2, 2021 5:18:34 GMT
I don't know much about Southhampton, but if it's anything like Westhampton or Easthampton...yup, small town! I was just with a friend who has a place out there who told me that her croquet club was very dramatic and scandalous. A croquet club!!! So I can just imagine the gossip about Ramona! Especially working for her. I would LOVE to belong to a scandalous croquet club!
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Post by beerbelly on Jun 2, 2021 11:07:31 GMT
Lol!!! I KNOW! If that were a show, I would totally watch it!
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