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Post by Girly18 on Jun 18, 2019 16:56:21 GMT
Candiace is too much this season. I couldn't believe she mocked Ashley's speech and won't let her having baby go. Then she purposely tattled on Monique about the comment she made about Katie. Candiace is immature so her pot stirring theatrics come off as annoying. Karen and Ashley's moment together about loss was sweet.
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Post by betty80 on Jun 18, 2019 16:57:24 GMT
I didn't see her on WWHL, but I think she is very annoying so far this season. It was really rude and cruel of her to make fun of Ashley's miscarriage speech. I guess she is the pot stirrer this season.
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Post by Girly18 on Jul 2, 2019 19:29:34 GMT
I need more information on Candiace getting slapped with her Mom's purse.  Candiace never stops talking about her rocky relationship with her Mom so its no surprise Monique and Ashley used that against her. The food must have been damn good for the ladies to hardly flinch.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 2, 2019 19:39:55 GMT
I think that Candice is scared to death of doing anything definitive with her mom because she is so scared of being cut off. I can't remember which of the women it was who said it but one of them was right in saying that Candace needs to live a life where she can pay her own bills so she's not beholden to mom. I don't like comparing her mom to the devil, but it is like she's made a deal with the devil. Quality of life matters more than material things. She should accept a step down in life and move on.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 2, 2019 23:00:21 GMT
Candiace mom smacked her in the face with a bag. If they showed it, I missed it. I have seen it talked about in the previews. Candiace was too outraged at the dinner table. She had a knife in her hand and Chris had to hold her back.
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Post by Girly18 on Jul 10, 2019 14:56:53 GMT
Karen: Hell you have a man that's a witness. We're done! Robyn said on WWHL weeks ago that it was Juan that Michael made the comment about. From what I gather, Robyn did not wake up and think it was a dream. She purposely didn't say anything because it was her husband and she didn't want to make him uncomfortable. Ashley has some nerve strolling back in the house when she was kicked out. 
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Post by acookertv on Jul 10, 2019 15:08:19 GMT
I know that Ashley is younger than a lot of the women on the show, and when they get into fights her youth really shows on her. It showed in the way she was going for the below the belt deflecting in making comments about who paid for Candace's house. And she REALLY showed it the way she left then came back and kept working to keep the fight going. But it makes for good TV, so it makes her a good housewife!
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Post by betty80 on Jul 10, 2019 15:26:08 GMT
Ashley had her little baby boy.
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 10, 2019 17:05:33 GMT
Chris was the high light of that dinner party for me 
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Post by acookertv on Jul 10, 2019 18:20:56 GMT
I'm not crazy about Candace on the show, but I'm happy to tolerate her to get Chris. He's refreshing blend of enjoying being on the show without being desperate to take attention from his wife.
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Post by Girly18 on Jul 11, 2019 16:31:19 GMT
Forgot to ask what did you guys think about the therapy session with Candiace and her Mom? I have a good relationship with my Mom so I have nothing I could relate to. This is was crazy sad to see. I am so glad the therapist checked the Mom. She really didn't want to talk about the purse slap. Although the Mom came off the worst, I think that there has been many years of a unhealthy relationship with those two to get this far. I don't think Candiace is innocent but there is only one Mother in this scenario. I think her Mom views Candiace as a spoiled whiny brat she has no respect for so she shuts her down. Idk.
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 11, 2019 17:31:24 GMT
Candiace's mom is out of control. I thought the therapist was very good. But no amount of therapy is going to chill that woman, imo. I think Candiace needs to make steps to distance herself...MAYBE that will help 
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Post by acookertv on Jul 11, 2019 17:35:33 GMT
The therapy session was painful to watch, but I"m glad they did it, and I hope they do a lot more off camera. I think that Candace's mom showed that she works very hard to control every situation and every conversation. It was telling that she tried to cut Candace off from talking so many times when she was laying out her truth. The therapist was obviously prepared for it, and has likely seen it in many families, since he set the ground rules he did. But I agree with you - Candace plays into it all as well and takes advantage of her mom quite a bit. It would be great if Candace could take a step back to recognize that relationships are more valuable than material goods and see her mom as something other than a source of spoiling her. And it would be nice if her mom would recognize that Candace is her own person, one to be very proud of, and stop trying to control her every move. Though I'm pretty sure that Candace's mom tries to control a lot more people than just her daughter.
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Post by Girly18 on Jul 11, 2019 17:46:40 GMT
Well said acookertv!
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Post by acookertv on Jul 15, 2019 13:09:14 GMT
For as big of a storyline as the allegations against Michael is, I was disappointed that they handled the whole thing in such a set up way last night. I'm not buying that Robin just happened to be filming at home all alone, innocently sat down to check the internet because that's something exciting and worth filming, and just happened to find out about Michael. Nor do I believe that Ashley just happened to be shopping with Katie when she just happened to get a call about it. I get why production does that - it's going to be a storyline and that's how they introduce it. This one is also probably a challenge because it breaks down the fourth wall and forces them to talk about production since it was a camera man ... and while we know they are being filmed, we don't normally see them talking about being on the show. But I think it would have come across as more genuine if they'd used the Wendy Williams clip to fill in the blanks and then just showed the women talking about it.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 15, 2019 13:54:59 GMT
I think Bravo (the producers or editors?) edited the show that way as a way to get back at Ashely and Micheal. That episode was not friendly to them at all. They even did a flashback to all of Ashley's past misdeeds with the other women. Bravo wanted higher ratings. They even made the episode longer. I guess Bravo pushed it as far as they could, legally. I did laugh when Karen said "clankity clank." Candiace needs to calm down. She acts like her mother with Chris and the other women. I just want Candiace to be quiet.
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Post by acookertv on Jul 15, 2019 14:04:31 GMT
I didn't see the edit as a vendetta against Michael and Ashley. In all honesty, I think they have to tread lightly as for them, it's a legal issue between two employees and they can't be choosing sides. They are also possibly liable in the whole thing since they put the two men together. But Ashley's hypocrisy in the whole thing is a major part of the storyline, which is why I think they showed the flashbacks. She went after many of the women for not being open and honest about rough times they were facing. She was all over Karen for not being up front about the issues Ray had last year. In truth, I think that Ashley is learning compassion the hard way by being forced to walk in the shoes she mocked on so many women. So I don't know how they'd tell that story without the flashbacks ... even if the man accusing Michael had nothing to do with production.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 22, 2019 1:25:24 GMT
Ashley said she is going to track down her father, even though he blocked her on facebook. This probably won't end well.
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Post by betty80 on Jul 29, 2019 1:50:44 GMT
At the end of tonight's episode, Bravo showed unaired footage that is supposed to cast doubt on Michael's innocence. Then Monique tweeted and went to instagram live saying that Bravo used her cousin's voice and made it seem like Michael was talking to the cameraman in her basement. Earlier in the footage, there was another audio segment of an exchange between Michael and the cameraman. The cameraman says "don't do that" and Michael says "no problem." Monique said that what she read in the legal documents and what she saw in the unaired footage do not match, but that she is staying neutral because she doesn't know. Ashley also did an instagram live and explained how Bravo was lying about everything. Earlier in the episode, Michael confirmed that he did make contact with the cameraman in a local interview, but did not grab his butt. Monique expressed concern that Bravo can can edit shows this way.
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 29, 2019 19:02:11 GMT
Why would they though? Why would they go through such lengths to screw Michael like this?
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Post by acookertv on Jul 29, 2019 19:15:24 GMT
I'm somewhat surprised that they included this story at all in the season, but really surprised that they showed the footage. Bravo is between a rock and a hard place on this one - the fourth wall has been broken down. Add to that, they've got a relationship with the production company that hired the cameraman, and they chose to have Micheal on the show. This is truly a dispute between employees for them. I'm sure that news nets that have had employees in high profile sexual harassment suits would have preferred not to have reported on those stories, but they had no choice ... but they sure didn't choose to air any recordings that HR and legal had. I guess that it was such a huge story that they could not leave it out of the show entirely. But they could have edited out the women asking about whether or not anything was on tape, and avoided showing it.
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 29, 2019 19:23:00 GMT
Yes...they definitely took a "side" when they did that.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 20, 2019 0:42:05 GMT
The women were absolutely right last night in saying Katie’s wig was terrible She looked like when a toddler plays dress up in mom’s things. And “the white people are staring” needs to become one of those housewives lines repeated and kept alive forever!
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Post by JustJuls on Aug 26, 2019 19:05:13 GMT
I'm worried about Katie. She doesn't look well. She doesn't act well. And we know how much she had going on personally. She just seems SO out of it.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 26, 2019 23:24:02 GMT
She's not a full cast member anymore, is she? Isn't she a friend of the show? The way she's come across this season, I feel like Bravo could have done her a solid and edited her out of a lot of it. Like you said - clearly she's got a lot going on. While these women do choose to open up their lives, there are some times that it's polite to just not look in the windows even if they are wide open with the lights shining bright. I know that it's a broken record to complain about housewives from any city behaving badly on vacation. But I'll break the record here to say I really didn't like seeing how they behaved at Stingray City. That is one of my favorite places on the planet, and I had such a fantastic and fabulous experience when I was there. I vividly remember our boat captain and the marine life staff briefing us extensively before we got off the boat about how to behave for the good of the stingrays. That included not lifting your feet off the floor of the ocean but rather shuffling through the sand so you didn't accidentally step on an animal. Seeing them jump all about made me cringe. Same with the screaming and sqealing. I can take the women behaving badly in bars, landmarks (as long as they are not of historical or religious significance) and all around making Americans look bad. But when they put those beautiful and magical animals at risk with their behavior ... that's where I draw the line.
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Post by JustJuls on Aug 26, 2019 23:57:34 GMT
I cringed as well. Some people shouldn't be allowed in nature. 
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Post by betty80 on Aug 27, 2019 0:00:54 GMT
Bravo likes the cliff-hangers this season. I hope Katie is ok. Ashley went too far insulting her. I'm glad she apologized and the other ladies stood up for Katie. I'm glad Robyn spoke up to Gizelle about her housewarming.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 27, 2019 0:08:26 GMT
To me the biggest downside of Ashley being called out on poorly treating anyone is the over the top way she tries to fix it. Theres no just returning to normal for her. She jumps from attacking someone for daring to show up to these greetings so much louder and sweet than with everyone else. It’s awkward and puts the other person on the spot leading the other women to watch anxiously to see how her former enemy reacts.
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Post by betty80 on Sept 3, 2019 22:27:48 GMT
I never noticed how much Gizelle stirred the pot. That seems to be all she did this season. Besides a brief story on the house she bought and her daughter feeling left out, her role as mainly been to get the other ladies to argue. She's good at what she does and the HW shows thrive on pot stirring. Ashley gets so dramatic when people mention issues with her husband. I know things have been tough but she has shown no mercy to the other ladies. I kind of feel like it's her turn. Maybe if she didn't deflect and get so defensive, I would feel sorry for her more. On twitter, she said that she was going to go after all of the ladies for getting into her family's business. Her son looks just like Micheal. It looks like Katie returns for the season finale. I wonder if she will be at the reunion.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 4, 2019 18:00:44 GMT
I'm starting to think that the producers pick someone to stir the pot in every franchise. It just seems like some housewives do it over and over and over again without real reason.
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