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Post by FannyMare on Nov 8, 2020 0:22:27 GMT
Erika Girardi began Housewives very differently. The woman you're describing is Erika's alter ego, cabaret performer Erika Jayne. I really liked the earlier Erika Giradi, but she doesn't seem to exist anymore. Maybe she never did. Perhaps she's always been the obnoxious, rude, phony persona. I mean, what do we really know about her anyway, other than for a time she worked as a waitress at Chasen's, propositioned and eventually married a rich, powerful attorney, and gave birth to a son she never raised? You may very well be right about Erika committing fraud to save Tom's assets. That's really what it is if that's what the divorce is all about. Waitress? Okay we could go with that..
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Post by prism on Nov 9, 2020 19:32:18 GMT
It looked as if they had "something" in the beginning. He was a wealthy, aging used-to-be important lawyer. She was a somewhat pretty, entertaining, young nobody, looking for a sugar daddy. I suspect Girardi loved the flaming sex worker gig when she broke it out; but he had to finance it - probably to the tune of a few million a year. That'd be tiresome. Probably the last straw was having to give millions to the production company for her to "play" Roxie, which may have been a creditable job; but far to expensive for him. It worked until it didn't.
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Post by newsboi on Nov 10, 2020 16:17:33 GMT
Dang! Y'all should be writing some fiction novels based on the speculation thrown about on here.
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Post by amber on Nov 11, 2020 17:15:32 GMT
I'll speculate right here and now that I expect to see LVP returning to Housewives this season. Not from the very start, but at some point thereafter.
Bravo and Evolution rid the show of Teddi so that she wouldn't be a problem. I don't see Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Crystal Minkoff, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having a problem with LVP's returning. In fact, Kathy Hilton will probably facilitate the rekindling of Kyle's friendship with LVP.
Rinna and Erika, the jealous, selfish, and self-centered personas that orchestrated LVP and Denise's departures with intentions to target Garcelle this season, will take issue, so I'd say we'll see those two taken down a few notches, which is precisely what the fans want to see. I know I do.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Nov 11, 2020 19:18:00 GMT
I'll speculate right here and now that I expect to see LVP returning to Housewives this season. Not from the very start, but at some point thereafter. Bravo and Evolution rid the show of Teddi so that she wouldn't be a problem. I don't see Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Crystal Minkoff, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having a problem with LVP's returning. In fact, Kathy Hilton will probably facilitate the rekindling of Kyle's friendship with LVP. Rinna and Erika, the jealous, selfish, and self-centered personas that orchestrated LVP and Denise's departures with intentions to target Garcelle this season, will take issue, so I'd say we'll see those two taken down a few notches, which is precisely what the fans want to see. I know I do. On LVP's own podcast she sai she would not be open to returning to RHBH. She said she is not friends with anyone currently in the cast. She has Pump Rules & Pump Dog Rescue plus is now trying to reopen some of her restaurants. She said she has a great relationship with Bravo & Andy though. She was asked about whether there would be a Pump Baby show & she said she would doubt it because of what is going on. She also said most of the cast members no longer work for her. The 1 or 2 that still do were occasional part time employees who she doesn't think would be coming back.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 11, 2020 19:21:19 GMT
I'll speculate right here and now that I expect to see LVP returning to Housewives this season. Not from the very start, but at some point thereafter. Bravo and Evolution rid the show of Teddi so that she wouldn't be a problem. I don't see Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Crystal Minkoff, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having a problem with LVP's returning. In fact, Kathy Hilton will probably facilitate the rekindling of Kyle's friendship with LVP. Rinna and Erika, the jealous, selfish, and self-centered personas that orchestrated LVP and Denise's departures with intentions to target Garcelle this season, will take issue, so I'd say we'll see those two taken down a few notches, which is precisely what the fans want to see. I know I do. On LVP's own podcast she sai she would not be open to returning to RHBH. She said she is not friends with anyone currently in the cast. She has Pump Rules & Pump Dog Rescue plus is now trying to reopen some of her restaurants. She said she has a great relationship with Bravo & Andy though. She was asked about whether there would be a Pump Baby show & she said she would doubt it because of what is going on. She also said most of the cast members no longer work for her. The 1 or 2 that still do were occasional part time employees who she doesn't think would be coming back. I saw her on twitter posting about the rescues. Omg, if only. But they have to be so very very careful. Her life has gone beyond this show imho
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Post by acookertv on Nov 11, 2020 20:22:33 GMT
I'll speculate right here and now that I expect to see LVP returning to Housewives this season. Not from the very start, but at some point thereafter. Bravo and Evolution rid the show of Teddi so that she wouldn't be a problem. I don't see Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Crystal Minkoff, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having a problem with LVP's returning. In fact, Kathy Hilton will probably facilitate the rekindling of Kyle's friendship with LVP. Rinna and Erika, the jealous, selfish, and self-centered personas that orchestrated LVP and Denise's departures with intentions to target Garcelle this season, will take issue, so I'd say we'll see those two taken down a few notches, which is precisely what the fans want to see. I know I do. On LVP's own podcast she sai she would not be open to returning to RHBH. She said she is not friends with anyone currently in the cast. She has Pump Rules & Pump Dog Rescue plus is now trying to reopen some of her restaurants. She said she has a great relationship with Bravo & Andy though. She was asked about whether there would be a Pump Baby show & she said she would doubt it because of what is going on. She also said most of the cast members no longer work for her. The 1 or 2 that still do were occasional part time employees who she doesn't think would be coming back. This is interesting. The way I read it from your recap, it sounds like she sees the Pump Rules cast as depending on HER to be a part of Bravo ... as if since they no longer work at Sur, there's no way for them to be on Bravo. Since you heard it and I didn't, did it come across that way or am I misreading?
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Post by amber on Nov 11, 2020 20:49:09 GMT
I'll speculate right here and now that I expect to see LVP returning to Housewives this season. Not from the very start, but at some point thereafter. Bravo and Evolution rid the show of Teddi so that she wouldn't be a problem. I don't see Dorit, Kyle, Garcelle, Crystal Minkoff, Sutton, and Kathy Hilton having a problem with LVP's returning. In fact, Kathy Hilton will probably facilitate the rekindling of Kyle's friendship with LVP. Rinna and Erika, the jealous, selfish, and self-centered personas that orchestrated LVP and Denise's departures with intentions to target Garcelle this season, will take issue, so I'd say we'll see those two taken down a few notches, which is precisely what the fans want to see. I know I do. On LVP's own podcast she sai she would not be open to returning to RHBH. She said she is not friends with anyone currently in the cast. She has Pump Rules & Pump Dog Rescue plus is now trying to reopen some of her restaurants. She said she has a great relationship with Bravo & Andy though. She was asked about whether there would be a Pump Baby show & she said she would doubt it because of what is going on. She also said most of the cast members no longer work for her. The 1 or 2 that still do were occasional part time employees who she doesn't think would be coming back. Which podcast? I'd like to know because I've listened to what I believe to be all of them and a good dozen or so of other podcasts where she's been interviewed and has never heard her say she was not open to returning to Housewives and only has said, "Never say never." In fact, I have pointed out here a couple of times here that I find it interesting that during all of these podcasts, no one ever asks if she'd return to Housewives. She's even recently been on Juicy Scoop and Heather McDonald has been on LVP's podcast and that particular question never came up and she was asked everything else except just that. Thus, IMO, it's agreed upon ahead of time that the question is not to be asked. In contrast, we all know why she left as she discusses that all the time. She also talks about how much she enjoyed the show and, by association, the opportunities the show affords her. We also know Bravo wants her back. IMO, until LVP says point-blank that she will never return, I believe there is every reason to believe she will. Anyway, I expect her to return this year because of the way the cast is lining up and LVP has a story to tell.
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Post by amber on Nov 11, 2020 21:09:49 GMT
On LVP's own podcast she sai she would not be open to returning to RHBH. She said she is not friends with anyone currently in the cast. She has Pump Rules & Pump Dog Rescue plus is now trying to reopen some of her restaurants. She said she has a great relationship with Bravo & Andy though. She was asked about whether there would be a Pump Baby show & she said she would doubt it because of what is going on. She also said most of the cast members no longer work for her. The 1 or 2 that still do were occasional part time employees who she doesn't think would be coming back. I saw her on twitter posting about the rescues. Omg, if only. But they have to be so very very careful. Her life has gone beyond this show imho It has. However, she has received all those opportunities because of Housewives and I don't think she's ready to give possible future opportunities up. What's interesting is it's because of those other opportunities that Rinna and Erika dislike LVP so much: they're jealous. Andy mentioned this in a recent interview that Rinna and Erika are even angry about LVP being able to launch spinoffs and, also, about Denise and Garcelle being allowed to skip out or show up late to film Housewives because their other working commitments. www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9eMxsMnXpo
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Nov 11, 2020 22:46:54 GMT
Amber I can't honestly say that LVP would never ever return to RHBH. On her podcast with Heather McDonald IMHO she sort of said no to a return but never actually said 100% never ever either.
I think there would be no way she would return with Ericka & Rinna still there then again IF Ericka left Rinna would lose her ally. I do think Kyle & Dorito could & would swallow their pride & kiss Pump's backside if she were to return.
I honestly have only watched sporadically the last 2 seasons. I see Kyle's face and all I feel is GOODBYE KYLE!
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Post by acookertv on Nov 11, 2020 23:10:57 GMT
I think Kyle would only go along with it if Bravo gave her a raise, and other promises that it would increase/solidify her role. She's gone out of her way since LIsa left to make sure the world hears about every single snub Lisa sends her way - most of them at cosmetic counters along Rodeo Dr. Kyle and Lisa battled to be the queen bee of the show. I think Kyle would have a very hard time sharing her OG status again.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 12, 2020 0:15:12 GMT
Amber I can't honestly say that LVP would never ever return to RHBH. On her podcast with Heather McDonald IMHO she sort of said no to a return but never actually said 100% never ever either. I think there would be no way she would return with Ericka & Rinna still there then again IF Ericka left Rinna would lose her ally. I do think Kyle & Dorito could & would swallow their pride & kiss Pump's backside if she were to return. I honestly have only watched sporadically the last 2 seasons. I see Kyle's face and all I feel is GOODBYE KYLE! The odd time I watched, I found Kyle to be juvenile and OTT. She spends money like water imho. Erica and Rinna boring and petty..
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Post by Punkin on Nov 12, 2020 5:30:02 GMT
I'm kinda done with this one. Like New Jersey HW. Unholy grifters there. No one interesting in BH. Meh.
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Post by amber on Nov 12, 2020 6:03:10 GMT
Yes, yes, yes to all of the above; however, Kyle needs a friend because Bravo ditched her bestie, Teddi. Kathy Hilton is friends with LVP and is said to have issues with Rinna, supposedly stemming from Rinna's treatment of sister Kim. Will we finally see an authentic Erika, or will she continue to hide, this year behind her pending divorce and Tom's business fraud litigations?
pasnowbunny, if I am LVP and watching my amassed fortune becoming decimated by the pandemic, I'd definitely want back on Housewives to remain relevant and to seek out further opportunities. That's a no brainer for me.
Anyway, we'll see, but my money's on LVP's return. IMO, she seems ready for it.
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Post by newsboi on Nov 12, 2020 22:32:39 GMT
She's not coming back unless Andy wants her to come back. Won't happen.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 12, 2020 22:42:31 GMT
She's not coming back unless Andy wants her to come back. Won't happen. I agree, he said she's welcome back, but as I posted above, this show and lvp have both moved on.
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Post by prism on Nov 13, 2020 23:55:13 GMT
Amber I can't honestly say that LVP would never ever return to RHBH. On her podcast with Heather McDonald IMHO she sort of said no to a return but never actually said 100% never ever either. I think there would be no way she would return with Ericka & Rinna still there then again IF Ericka left Rinna would lose her ally. I do think Kyle & Dorito could & would swallow their pride & kiss Pump's backside if she were to return. I honestly have only watched sporadically the last 2 seasons. I see Kyle's face and all I feel is GOODBYE KYLE! The odd time I watched, I found Kyle to be juvenile and OTT. She spends money like water imho. Erica and Rinna boring and petty.. Yes, Kyle is juvenile; somehow she never matured, even with children, strange. Erica and Rinna are so jealous of LVP, also Dorito... the three of them have zero substance. That's what LVP has that sets her apart. If anything, Dorito is worse than Erica and Rinna b/c she doesn't actually show how evil she is - but she's just like them, hating anyone who has "better".
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Post by momrek06 on Nov 17, 2020 15:39:22 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Nov 17, 2020 16:16:49 GMT
He gives them a tie to the Kardashians - so I'd guess Lisa is loving it!
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Nov 20, 2020 2:18:26 GMT
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Post by amber on Nov 30, 2020 17:02:16 GMT
Looks to me like Dorit's face change could very well be tape and makeup. And, if it's not, she seriously got took. After sifting through internet muck, appears that Kathy Hilton is going after Lisa Rinna for being dishonest. Also, Radar Online is identifying Lisa Rinna as a regular informant and that much of what she feeds them isn't reliable. Radar Online is the same tabloid that reported the Dorit puppy gate story. Back then, Lisa Rinna insisted the story came from LVP. Subsequently, Radar Online has said their source was not LVP and LVP has never been an informant. I still believe this season is about making things right for LVP's return. RHOBH filming has been suspended for two weeks due to Covid concerns and it's rumored that Kyle is sick.
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Post by stargazer161 on Dec 2, 2020 19:39:55 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Dec 2, 2020 20:14:57 GMT
Saw that coming a mile away!
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Post by stargazer161 on Dec 2, 2020 21:35:38 GMT
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Post by woodiedog on Dec 3, 2020 13:23:10 GMT
Yikes! The real housewives of COVID County!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 3, 2020 18:30:18 GMT
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Post by amber on Dec 4, 2020 5:07:03 GMT
It's hard to imagine a Bravo housewife more morally corrupt than Teresa Giudice but looks as if Erika Girardi has topped her. Allegedly.
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Post by stargazer161 on Dec 4, 2020 19:45:43 GMT
For sure...if it's all true...I am disgusted by these two felons.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 4, 2020 19:58:23 GMT
It looks like they tried to take advantage of the system. They got caught. Looks like the system is working.
Ironically, Erica's fame will likely be their downfall. If she was not a houseweife, no one ever would have noticed when she filed for divorce. Not enough people would have cared if the Erin Brokovich lawyer who wasn't featured in the movie was getting a divorce and flags would not have been raised.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 4, 2020 21:09:06 GMT
It's hard to imagine a Bravo housewife more morally corrupt than Teresa Giudice but looks as if Erika Girardi has topped her. Allegedly. According to the lawsuit, obtained by TMZ, Edelson -- which also represented the plaintiffs in the Lion Air litigation -- claims Tom used the settlement money to fund his "outrageous lifestyle" with Erika.
Edelson claims Girardi also needed the money to help keep his own law firm afloat, claiming it was is in financial peril from various loans.
They used money, to fund their lifestyle, that belonged to someone else. It's beyond comprehension. I figured Tom couldn't fund the extremes we saw, flying makeup squads everywhere, to every little dinner, or heck, out of the country. I've always had a gut feeling, that Erika was a very cold person, thinking she was better than Denise and others and their lifestyles I imagine people are looking at her totally different now, and Rinna is running many , many miles away.. ..
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