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Post by JustJuls on Sept 9, 2021 19:24:39 GMT
No one has asked you to not have a point of view, FannyMare. Everyone is entitled to that. But these are the kind of comments I'm talking about. We're all grown here. I am the one moderator at FORT who moderates these threads and I'm tired of listening to "it's my point of view" - "I know...this is my point of view" over and over and over and over again. If anyone feels like discussing their dislike for Erika at length - then perhaps one should PM a like minded fellow FORTer. That's what I do. Please everyone, be kind. How is what I posted, any different to this? Except you've never liked me, and if I go against Erika, I'm in the wrong. Good to know. I knew when you quoted me, it was to say I was wrong. First of all Fanny, I do like you. I don't know where you are getting that from. If you would like to discuss this further, please PM me. Your post was the first post of the day that said something of the sort. That's why you were quoted. I didn't see this one you quoted otherwise it would have been the one I used. There is no difference. I was speaking to the entire thread. I'm asking EVERYONE to stop. Please.
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Post by Punkin on Sept 9, 2021 19:41:35 GMT
My what a lovely dinner party! There were charming floral arrangements and candles and plates and real polished genuine silver silverware. Enchante! How delightfully..... ordinary for this group. Couldn't wait to comment on it! So, that's out of the way.
Thank God that cowering, ass kissing Kyle thinks... after we were treated to an homage to EJ's nastiest aired spots (I'd be scared to see what she is up to when cameras aren't rolling!), she decided that EJ's bark is worse than her bite. Oh, thank God! Likely that soothes the angst of the widows/orphans/burn victims, et al. And her biggest thing is, "I don't want this anger redirected at me!" Good self=-care, Kyle. Piss on the widows and orphans! Kyle couldn't care less. She's got hers, sooooo. And, wouldn't we hate to see Kyle "uncomfortable"?
Rinna's loyalty is to the TRUTH, she says! So she really gave it to Garcelle for the sin of thanking Harry Hamlin personally, to his face, for his special sauce and then not following up with a text Rinna could share with Harry Hamlin. What a Bitch!
Sutton is so sane! How'd she let herself get mixed up in this crowd of phonies? Garcelle ... well it's easier to understand how she can compartmentalize the hypocrisy. She, as a POC, is used to it.
Dorito, getting sage advice from PK, who, because he's been a crook for a while, sees EJ doing this all wrong. "And she's there with her legs in the air. Not a good look!" Bravo, PK! Dorito, you're an idiot!
Haitian dinner was great! Rinna: "I have never had Haitian food." Chef: "Have you ever been to Haiti?" "I've been to the Bahamas!" LOLOLOLOLOLOL Ever heard of Hispaniola, Rinna? Guess not. Shoot, I've been to the Grand Caymans and couldn't help but notice they didn't speak French! So, Not Haiti!
All the while, EJ is "scrolling the NYT". (Likely Page 6!) But we did enjoy two lovely dinner parties in one Episode! Lucky us!
Sutton .... "I'm the boss now." YES! You go girl! The only one with enough moxie to stand up to the snarling gangsta, Erica!
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Post by acookertv on Sept 9, 2021 21:36:32 GMT
That montage backed up what Kyle was saying, didn’t it? Over the years she’s seen Erica deliver brutal and tough talk … and has not seen her back it up with brutal action. Isn’t that the very definition of a bark worse than it’s bite?
Lisa was truly stretching with the complaint that Garcelle doesn’t repeat verbal thanks with written ones. Garcelle was making a very valid point and Lisa had to really dig to pretend they had both done things. Gary Elle doesn’t need to be in the business of babying Harry Hamlin. In fact, lisa should be grateful that she is t interested in that!
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Post by amber on Sept 9, 2021 22:52:00 GMT
Okay, so I'm at work..and that video is 17 minutes long, lol. What did Erika whisper to Sutton? I wanna know dang it, haha! Oddly enough, she didn't say or whatever she said was edited out! I think someone should tweet Andy to include as a question for the reunion.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 9, 2021 22:59:02 GMT
That montage backed up what Kyle was saying, didn’t it? Over the years she’s seen Erica deliver brutal and tough talk … and has not seen her back it up with brutal action. Isn’t that the very definition of a bark worse than it’s bite? Lisa was truly stretching with the complaint that Garcelle doesn’t repeat verbal thanks with written ones. Garcelle was making a very valid point and Lisa had to really dig to pretend they had both done things. Gary Elle doesn’t need to be in the business of babying Harry Hamlin. In fact, lisa should be grateful that she is t interested in that! I cracked up. "You didn't say thank you."
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Post by mayamaisha on Sept 16, 2021 14:27:49 GMT
I cannot stand ‘Delete”!
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 16, 2021 15:23:18 GMT
I laughed out loud when PK was talking about Tom and whether his brain should be operated on or his ankle..lol. Such a fabricated story..the lies come so easily for the ice queen. Dorit's dresses were nice...but 35,000 for that one dress? She's crazy! I feel for Garcelle...no one really has her back, IMO.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 16, 2021 16:20:11 GMT
I loved Kyle's face at Dorit's party when PK make the claim that he had not said anything bad about Erica.
I felt for Garcelle, but would ask her - how has she had other people's backs? She certainly had Denise's back, but she's gone. Has she really be there for other people? She wasn't there for Erica when she took the producer's prodding to share info that had not been on camera.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 16, 2021 17:53:02 GMT
I laughed out loud when PK was talking about Tom and whether his brain should be operated on or his ankle..lol. Such a fabricated story..the lies come so easily for the ice queen. Dorit's dresses were nice...but 35,000 for that one dress? She's crazy! I feel for Garcelle...no one really has her back, IMO. At least Sutton said what she did, to Erika's face. Now , as she watches this back, she can see PK, Dorit, Mo who was high, and Kyle all laughing at these ridiculous stories I guess rolling vehicles is a family trait... I used the FF on the wedding dresses, bored HW dabbles in design..and they all looked the same to me..I heard the cost, some fool will buy one Each week gets more boring....except for Sutton and Garcelle. I love Garcelle, I'm sorry she feels she doesn't fit in, she's a beautiful woman
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 16, 2021 19:10:10 GMT
We are not Dorit's target buyer for the wedding dresses. Real Housewives of "Beverly Hills" I thought they were beautiful. It's definitely a step up from the bathing suits. I've never been a fan of Dorit but she's growing on me more and more. I don't know WHAT to make of Erika's story. The intruder, the confrontation, her son coming from the snow to check on him?!?! It's all very confusing. If they were lying....one would think you would come up with a better lie than all that because it doesn't sound believable. I don't know. I'm stuck on this one. I think Garcelle went in thinking she wouldn't fit in and that is where she has kept herself. She's pushed back at Lisa, Dorit and Erika and then says "it's them over there and us over here." and includes Crystal in that statement who doesn't feel that way at all.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 16, 2021 20:44:43 GMT
That's a great point about Garcelle. She did say in the previews for next week that she's had to work to fit in her entire life. So it makes perfect sense that she comes into any new situation bracing for that. But an unintended consequence of that may be that when people are more welcoming to her, she may not recognize it as quickly because past experiences have made it tougher for her to trust it.
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Post by prism on Sept 17, 2021 0:35:49 GMT
I laughed out loud when PK was talking about Tom and whether his brain should be operated on or his ankle..lol. Such a fabricated story..the lies come so easily for the ice queen. Dorit's dresses were nice...but 35,000 for that one dress? She's crazy! I feel for Garcelle...no one really has her back, IMO. At least Sutton said what she did, to Erika's face. Now , as she watches this back, she can see PK, Dorit, Mo who was high, and Kyle all laughing at these ridiculous stories I guess rolling vehicles is a family trait... I used the FF on the wedding dresses, bored HW dabbles in design..and they all looked the same to me..I heard the cost, some fool will buy one Each week gets more boring....except for Sutton and Garcelle. I love Garcelle, I'm sorry she feels she doesn't fit in, she's a beautiful woman FannyMare, agree on both counts. Erika, in her deep, deep, fakey controller monotone, fabricates as if someone'll believe it. Good gawd what a piece of trash. Andy & Co must be thrilled with this goat rodeo. And Garcelle, yup, she knows what she's talking about, although castmates pooh-pooh what she knows and feels; saying she expects to be excluded so she makes it happen. Not. Stargazer - All those people saying Ericka is fullacrap, humorous to watch. Kyle's husband seems high whenever he's on; wonder what makes his life so awful he has to do that? If not for Sutton and Garcelle, Ericka wouldn't have much traction on this show.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 17, 2021 0:43:47 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high.
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Post by stargazer161 on Sept 17, 2021 1:26:30 GMT
^True that lol
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 17, 2021 1:31:56 GMT
Hahhaa! YAS! I mean...I live in Northern California. And it's legal.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Sept 17, 2021 3:07:00 GMT
I am waiting for Erika to claim a "dingo ate my baby/Tom" or that aliens abducted Tom and replaced him with a bot. I'm sorry, I tried to have an open mind.
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Post by amber on Sept 17, 2021 5:43:07 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 17, 2021 17:16:22 GMT
Wow, so first Tom rolls his car then her son rolls his car? Two cars rolling? Watching this week's episode does not help EJ at all. I mean we see throwback's of her chats to the ladies about her sweet Tom yet now since the trip to Tahoe and the law suits it has been a controlling marriage. EJ does not come across to me as a an individual that would allow anyone to control her. Unless of course that person was supplying her with tons of money. So now what exactly is EJ doing for income besides Housewives.......????? I mean what were those pictures in this week's episode (and I think the week before) and what was EJ's taglines in the pictures. amber...wow....!!!!
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 17, 2021 17:33:37 GMT
Wow, so first Tom rolls his car then her son rolls his car? Two cars rolling? Watching this week's episode does not help EJ at all. I mean we see throwback's of her chats to the ladies about her sweet Tom yet now since the trip to Tahoe and the law suits it has been a controlling marriage. EJ does not come across to me as a an individual that would allow anyone to control her. Unless of course that person was supplying her with tons of money. So now what exactly is EJ doing for income besides Housewives.......????? I mean what were those pictures in this week's episode (and I think the week before) and what was EJ's taglines in the pictures. amber ...wow....!!!! It's a lingerie shoot, although what was said beside one, imho was disgusting..I guess she'll have to keep doing HW , for the money. .oh joy.
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Post by amber on Sept 17, 2021 18:07:27 GMT
For those of us that are not aware, Bethenny had a long-time relationship with Dennis Shields. Dennis died while after she rejoined RHONY. Dennis was a finance guy and founder, CEO, and Director of LawCash after years in the industry and also helped form American Legal Finance Association.
According to Bethenny, in 2017, Tom owed Dennis half a million dollars and to other legal finance firms, millions more.
I just can't shake the scene when Erika was down-talking Sutton, not knowing who she was from their country club as if Sutton was undeserving of any respect. Yes, the lying, pole dancing, stripper, gold digger, phony entertainer living off of other people's stolen money Erika talking down Sutton ... really?
IMO, Erika knew she and Tom were living on other people's money. Perhaps she didn't know they were living off other people's STOLEN money in addition to borrowed money from the beginning, but she knew long before the end. Like her husband, Erika is a narssisist and she didn't and doesn't care.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 17, 2021 18:32:26 GMT
I went back to look for the clips of Erica adjusting the story of Tom's accident to see whether or not she talked about him rolling the car. She didn't. She said that he drove off a cliff. The notion that everyone was rolling the cars came from Kyle and Dorit - not Erica. Interestingly, when I was trying to figure out when that aired, I came across this clip from 2018 when Erica was first talking about the accident. www.youtube.com/watch?v=5m1EMG7dd68 I take away two things from this. First, the level that she talks about him being so vulnerable seems odd for a simple car accident where a man breaks an ankle - but Erica can be dramatic. Second, it reminded me that back when Erica had an entourage, part of their job was to listen to her talk about what was going on in her life and react with the desired level of drama. Perhaps part of the reason that she's sharing so much more with the Housewives this year is that she no longer has a paid staff to listen to her. I'll also go ahead and note because I watched it a couple of times after I got suspicious - she does not say the accident happened while they were in Japan. She does not specify when it happened. First time I heard it it seemed like it happened while she was in Japan, meaning she could not have found him. Second listen I realize the guy paid to listen to her says they were back three days and she doesn't specify when it happend.
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Post by Kao on Sept 17, 2021 21:14:57 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high. If that's the case my life is terrible!
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 17, 2021 21:20:44 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high. If that's the case my life is terrible! Same!!
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Sept 18, 2021 2:14:52 GMT
I wonder whether Erika's son called the police after his accident. I tried to keep an open mind on this, I honestly stopped watching this franchise after LVP left. I listened to podcast recaps but to waste on hour watching these folks...nah. This whole "crash-gate" thing though. Okay so Erika took Tom to the hospital for his injuries, no one questioned how/what/when/why he received these horrific injuries. It's it a crime to not report an accident??? I am only going by my own personal experience. Many years ago, 30+ years, my husband's car slid on a patch of ice in front of our home causing him to slide into our garage door & hitting my car inside. In order to file an insurance claim, both home & auto were the same company, we had to call the police and file a report. They came out, took pictures & filed a police report. This was only our property that was damaged. Our nearest neighbor is over 100 yards away. I am just at a loss to explain any of this. I am so over this.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 18, 2021 3:33:31 GMT
Where is the assumption coming from that either accident wasn’t reported?
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Post by amber on Sept 18, 2021 4:54:27 GMT
Where is the assumption coming from that either accident wasn’t reported? I have no idea about the son's accident, but the LA Times reporters who authored the article the cast read after Erika left La Quinta that exposed Tom withholding clients' settlements stated on a podcast that there is no police record of Tom's accident on the road behind his home ever happening. This was posted with the podcast link pages back and I was probably the one that posted it. Contrary to what Erika told Sutton on the show, the authors said they absolutely reached out to Erika prior to publication. I listened to a recent podcast featuring attorney Emily D Baker who said she believes it is possible that Erika exaggerated certain key facts and it might be that Tom didn't crash the car, but injured himself after getting out of the car and falling down the embankment behind his home. I have also read speculation that the accident wasn't reported because Tom may have been drinking. Whatever the reason, Tom's accident wasn't reported to the Pasadena PD.
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Post by prism on Sept 18, 2021 15:48:52 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high. Well I learned something from you here…. maybe more for kicks, fun times, whatever? Drug users I’ve known use to escape troubled lives. Any event, drugs should be legal everywhere - creates more problems when illegal.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 18, 2021 17:28:01 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high. Well I learned something from you here…. maybe more for kicks, fun times, whatever? Drug users I’ve known use to escape troubled lives. Any event, drugs should be legal everywhere - creates more problems when illegal. It's legal here, we know people that use. They don't drink though, it's usually one or the other. I'm allergic to it. Mo seems high every time we see him now, he likely doesn't remember that scene..but they were laughing at Erika's and Toms expense, and it was at least a break to see laughter, that hasn't been much, except for Rinna's cackle
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Post by kk4 on Sept 18, 2021 17:38:56 GMT
After reading a few pages of this thread it makes me even happier that I stopped recording this series ages ago
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 18, 2021 18:51:17 GMT
You don't have to have an awful life to get high. Well I learned something from you here…. maybe more for kicks, fun times, whatever? Drug users I’ve known use to escape troubled lives. Any event, drugs should be legal everywhere - creates more problems when illegal. Or for medicinal purposes. Marijuana should never have been illegal. It's a wonderful healer. But annnywayyyy
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