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Post by acookertv on Apr 9, 2019 17:00:29 GMT
I think that this show is at a decision point that is not unlike Grey's Anatomy got to several years ago. The show was built on the stories of the original cast at a time they were in their 20s, struggling to get bills paid, working at a restaurant to fund themselves while they tried to be musicians, actresses, models, etc. They were also struggling to get their lives right making a lot of stupid mistakes in relationships. Advance to now, and they are all making great money thanks in large part to their success on the show. So they are buying houses and living good lives rather than struggling. Some of them are still in screwed up relationships, but many of them are settling down with the right person, thinking about kids, etc. It's not unlike when Grey's Anatomy lasted long enough that the residents the show was about had become attending physicians.
So now the producers have to make a choice. THey can stick with the original cast and alter the point of the show, or they can stay with the original point of the show and refresh things with new cast members who are in those struggle years. It seems like they are using James, Raquel and Billie to refresh. However, they are still relying too heavily on the original cast members who are giving them better stuff, which makes the new blood look that much worse.
I almost think it would work to let the original VPR gang remain the focus of the show, and let it age with them into more of a Real Housewives / Southern Charm vibe. Then do a spinoff with the young struggles of people who work at Tom Tom. Let the Toms be the wise bosses who advise them on the things they do to screw up their lives, and let that cast become the focus of the "young people dating and screwing up" story. James, Raquel and Billie could easily move to Tom Tom to kick off that cast.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 9, 2019 17:28:42 GMT
I really liked Billie when she was first introduced but since then it's gone downhill. I try to give everyone the benefit of the doubt but she's all over the place with her emotions. You can't cop an attitude with your boss because you're not getting your way. I get certain things trigger her and how she reacts but there is a time and place. I don't think everyone is against her but she seems to want to butt herself in situations and make it about her when it clearly is NOT. I feel bad for LaLa, the way she is coping with your father's death is not healthy and she is spiraling. Based on recent articles I've read it appears she is doing much better. I actually liked the way LVP handled Billie, she's been very supportive of her, but using f this f that when Billie doesn't get her way, that's not on I'm glad LaLa is doing better, I hadn't heard anything.. I was wondering if Katie and Tom will last, TomTom has given him some oomph, and he's wrong, Katie is indeed needy.. Poor Beau coming out in stress hives..  I really enjoy this show.. It's better than when I first started watching, and it's much better than some if the RH shows |
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Post by Realitychick on Apr 9, 2019 17:28:51 GMT
Acookertv - That's actually a really good idea. What makes this train wreck work so well is that the original people were friends for years before the show. Now many have come and gone in between but this show works because the relationships were well established prior to the show being created. It comes off more authentic if that even makes sense...
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Post by acookertv on Apr 9, 2019 17:50:12 GMT
Acookertv - That's actually a really good idea. What makes this train wreck work so well is that the original people were friends for years before the show. Now many have come and gone in between but this show works because the relationships were well established prior to the show being created. It comes off more authentic if that even makes sense... Totally agree! It makes such a huge difference with any Bravo show if they have the foundation of true friendships vs pretending for the cameras. |
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 9, 2019 20:56:07 GMT
Acookertv - That's actually a really good idea. What makes this train wreck work so well is that the original people were friends for years before the show. Now many have come and gone in between but this show works because the relationships were well established prior to the show being created. It comes off more authentic if that even makes sense... Authentic in a world of faux. I love a good oxymoron. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 10, 2019 4:22:04 GMT
I think that this show is at a decision point that is not unlike Grey's Anatomy got to several years ago. The show was built on the stories of the original cast at a time they were in their 20s, struggling to get bills paid, working at a restaurant to fund themselves while they tried to be musicians, actresses, models, etc. They were also struggling to get their lives right making a lot of stupid mistakes in relationships. Advance to now, and they are all making great money thanks in large part to their success on the show. So they are buying houses and living good lives rather than struggling. Some of them are still in screwed up relationships, but many of them are settling down with the right person, thinking about kids, etc. It's not unlike when Grey's Anatomy lasted long enough that the residents the show was about had become attending physicians. So now the producers have to make a choice. THey can stick with the original cast and alter the point of the show, or they can stay with the original point of the show and refresh things with new cast members who are in those struggle years. It seems like they are using James, Raquel and Billie to refresh. However, they are still relying too heavily on the original cast members who are giving them better stuff, which makes the new blood look that much worse. I almost think it would work to let the original VPR gang remain the focus of the show, and let it age with them into more of a Real Housewives / Southern Charm vibe. Then do a spinoff with the young struggles of people who work at Tom Tom. Let the Toms be the wise bosses who advise them on the things they do to screw up their lives, and let that cast become the focus of the "young people dating and screwing up" story. James, Raquel and Billie could easily move to Tom Tom to kick off that cast. Well said, acookertv! I totally agree with you!  |
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 10, 2019 16:36:00 GMT
It was nice seeing Tom Schwartz( briefly) on RHOBH..LVP had a party at TomTom, and he is just such a charmer there..I like him again. Please stop calling Katie Bubba every 10 minutes
Tom Sandoval, he really loves his work, he showed up at Sur for his shift, and the difference between his making a drink and lazy Jax making a drink, is so noticable.
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Post by AmyKay on Apr 10, 2019 18:52:10 GMT
again (like their thoughts on LVP in the RHOBH thread)I am with acookertv...they need to either start to phase these guys into their own show (getting married, buying houses, working at TomTom, etc) or cut back and bring new people in. She just opened a 'cocktail garden' in Vegas, mix the new VPR with some employees in Vegas, or even mix in some of VPR Dogs...I'd probably still watch. Tho rumor is VP Dogs is getting its on show anyway.
AS someone with anxiety I am trying really hard not to judge Lala but when my anxiety flares up the last thing I want is someone touching me. Hugs maybe, hand holding maybe. Hands all over the face? no. It seemed to me either she was rolling hardcore (E/Molly/whatever) or like Tom? said that she is so used to so much attention from Rand that when he isn't around she wants the focus on her.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 10, 2019 19:11:33 GMT
again (like their thoughts on LVP in the RHOBH thread)I am with acookertv...they need to either start to phase these guys into their own show (getting married, buying houses, working at TomTom, etc) or cut back and bring new people in. She just opened a 'cocktail garden' in Vegas, mix the new VPR with some employees in Vegas, or even mix in some of VPR Dogs...I'd probably still watch. Tho rumor is VP Dogs is getting its on show anyway. AS someone with anxiety I am trying really hard not to judge Lala but when my anxiety flares up the last thing I want is someone touching me. Hugs maybe, hand holding maybe. Hands all over the face? no. It seemed to me either she was rolling hardcore (E/Molly/whatever) or like Tom? said that she is so used to so much attention from Rand that when he isn't around she wants the focus on her. I was told, alcohol won't help my anxiety, I'm sure LaLa was told the same. A death can make anxiety worse as well. |
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Post by acookertv on Apr 11, 2019 1:24:57 GMT
Watching James and Raquel talk about the puppy shower it occurred to me they are what I envision PK and Dorit would have been like as a 20 something couple!
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Post by Girly18 on Apr 11, 2019 18:44:59 GMT
Scheana finally said what I've been thinking and Ariana agreed. Why does the group let Lala get away with everything and not call her out? This started last season before her father died. I think they enjoy the private jets and vacations with Randall too much.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 16, 2019 5:19:10 GMT
LaLa realises alcohol brings on her anxiety. Good, no more booze then.  I think she has as much talent as EJ from rhobh. None..  Stassi, not sure the Oracle will help, therapy might. Aww Katie, too much work every Tuesday....? Hmm thought so I wish I knew what bugs me about Jax, Brit is caught up in the wedding, not the marriage, but Jax, something isn't happy with him. I think he's getting a good edit..  |
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Post by acookertv on Apr 16, 2019 10:11:46 GMT
I enjoyed the scene with Kristen and Arianna, recalling how bad things used to be between them, and Kristen owning how she behaved. It was nice to see them move forward like that.
Totally agree that Brittany is caught up in having a wedding and being a bride - not in entering into a marriage that will work.
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Post by AmyKay on Apr 16, 2019 23:28:48 GMT
Stassi Bashes Billie LeeThis so makes me want them to ditch the OGs just for spite!! I was listening to an interview with Lala today (done by Heather McDonald on her podcast is anyone is interested) and she kept saying she was so grown up...ummm just cuz you are engaged to an adult doesn't make you one HONEY (a pet peeve of mine is when random people call me honey/babe and I noticed Lala does that). She did say she had one more drink blowout after her convo with Scheana...but she gave up all kinds of drinking in Oct. (She said before she would tell herself just wine, or just beer) So at least with that she is thinking maturely. She and Heather had a convo that I agreed with, I wouldn't mind if VPR broke the 4th wall a bit and talked about things that go on off camera. I wouldn't want it with my other shows I don't think but so much happens between these guys off camera!
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Post by betty80 on Apr 17, 2019 14:17:31 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 17, 2019 15:42:11 GMT
That was neither a diss or a slam. Stassi makes a good point. Billie is (as I say) doing the most because she wants to be in the opening credits and be a regular. While there is nothing wrong with wanting to be on a show and what not(no one is here for the sake of curing Cancer), she's going about it in such a crappy way. She's barely friends with any of them but wants to be in everything. Stop.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 17, 2019 15:46:21 GMT
That was neither a diss or a slam. Stassi makes a good point. Billie is (as I say) doing the most because she wants to be in the opening credits and be a regular. While there is nothing wrong with wanting to be on a show and what not(no one is here for the sake of curing Cancer), she's going about it in such a crappy way. She's barely friends with any of them but wants to be in everything. Stop. Agreed. When Lala came on the show, my recollection is that she went about things in much the same way and didn't do too well. It took her becoming close to James to start getting attention for anything other than fights, and then friendships with the OGs to be seen as a legitimate cast member. |
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Post by AmyKay on Apr 17, 2019 22:15:38 GMT
Another cast member has bought a house (Tom and Ariana recently bought one)....Kristin did, and not far from T&As. Brittany said in an interview recently that she and Jax were looking for a house. They're all moving on up!
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 17, 2019 23:39:44 GMT
Another cast member has bought a house (Tom and Ariana recently bought one)....Kristin did, and not far from T&As. Brittany said in an interview recently that she and Jax were looking for a house. They're all moving on up! Good for them! Tom and Ariana are one of my favourite couples.  |
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Post by mayamaisha on Apr 18, 2019 1:32:09 GMT
LaLa realises alcohol brings on her anxiety. Good, no more booze then. I think she has as much talent as EJ from rhobh. None.. Stassi, not sure the Oracle will help, therapy might. Aww Katie, too much work every Tuesday....? Hmm thought so I wish I knew what bugs me about Jax, Brit is caught up in the wedding, not the marriage, but Jax, something isn't happy with him. I think he's getting a good edit.. He is still Jax. Doesn’t he say in the previews that he comes first to Dingy’s father? |
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Post by Girly18 on Apr 18, 2019 15:59:51 GMT
I listened to the Stassi interview on Jenny McCarthy when she said " You don't even go here!". It was the perfect 'Mean Girls' reference for Billie Lee. Ken was so tickled by Tom and the suitcase of money.  |
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Post by betty80 on Apr 18, 2019 16:32:51 GMT
I think Billie's issue have nothing to do with her being trans. She is annoying. I think she uses being trans as an excuse. She should not have spoken to to Lisa the way she did.
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Post by Punkin on Apr 22, 2019 3:04:30 GMT
The resort in Puerto Vallarta where the gang just went on vacation is the same resort my grandson and his fiancé will be getting married (destination wedding) in October! It's "all inclusive" and the 3 bedroom unit I'll be sharing with my youngest son's family and my SIL has a fully stocked bar!  |
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 22, 2019 5:15:41 GMT
The resort in Puerto Vallarta where the gang just went on vacation is the same resort my grandson and his fiancé will be getting married (destination wedding) in October! It's "all inclusive" and the 3 bedroom unit I'll be sharing with my youngest son's family and my SIL has a fully stocked bar! Those all inclusive resorts are pretty prevalent out there, Lynda. I expect you to have a lot of fun out there. |
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 22, 2019 5:24:40 GMT
I agree, they have great all inclusive places in PV. Have fun Lynda,.
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 23, 2019 5:03:06 GMT
All this time, I had no clue Jax had a sister, unless I just tuned her out.. Brits father does not like Jax, I think he's sees him for what he really is.. Did Scheana really say to new younger guy, I'm not that girl that's all about marriage. How old is Adam? He is young, in lust and he gets jealous..is he 25? But they are Just BFFs..lol Brittany , she is bundle of fluff and happiness, let's hope she stays that way because if not, her brother and her father will go after Jax..hard! I don't like seeing James so despondent, but I was fine his walking away from LaLa.. I was sure at the start if the season, they showed Brit and Jax getting married, are they married now ..Or maybe it was Brit in her wedding dress(when she was trying them on) I just want to know what frothy pink drink they serve, it looks yummy.. |
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Post by acookertv on Apr 23, 2019 9:57:29 GMT
I also got a big laugh out of Scheana saying that she wasn't the kind of girl who was all about getting married. There's no doubt that she talks a big game about the kind of girl she wants to be, but has no self awareness of the girl she actually is!
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Post by Girly18 on Apr 23, 2019 21:35:11 GMT
Scheana never fails to make me cringe. Please never change. I am glad James didn't give Lala the time of day. He knew it was genuine. Jax and Brit get married in June so we won't see the wedding till next season. Apparently the Jax and family convo at the end was edited. Either way it was such a Jax thing to say. "For those of you who want to come at me for tonight's dinner scene: First of all, yes -- mentally, I have to put myself first, or I won't be able to take care of my wife or my kids. That is what I meant by that," he explained, adding that he felt "most" people "got that."
"I wouldn't be making these moves forward and say something so selfish," he continued. "I believe everyone needs to put themselves first, or how can I possibly be good for anyone?"
Jax went on to say that in all seven years of filming the Bravo reality show, he's "never once complained about editing;" however, he felt cheated when he saw what aired Monday night.
"This scene was edited horribly," he maintained. "I even spoke to [Brittany's] father after, and he was like, 'This is not how it went.' We are both on the same page -- just so you know -- and he agrees with me, and that's all that matters. Wanted to clear that up. I feel I owe it to you guys (viewers). I don't want to let anyone down ever again." |
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 23, 2019 21:49:13 GMT
Scheana never fails to make me cringe. Please never change. I am glad James didn't give Lala the time of day. He knew it was genuine. Jax and Brit get married in June so we won't see the wedding till next season. Apparently the Jax and family convo at the end was edited. Either way it was such a Jax thing to say. "For those of you who want to come at me for tonight's dinner scene: First of all, yes -- mentally, I have to put myself first, or I won't be able to take care of my wife or my kids. That is what I meant by that," he explained, adding that he felt "most" people "got that."
"I wouldn't be making these moves forward and say something so selfish," he continued. "I believe everyone needs to put themselves first, or how can I possibly be good for anyone?"
Jax went on to say that in all seven years of filming the Bravo reality show, he's "never once complained about editing;" however, he felt cheated when he saw what aired Monday night.
"This scene was edited horribly," he maintained. "I even spoke to [Brittany's] father after, and he was like, 'This is not how it went.' We are both on the same page -- just so you know -- and he agrees with me, and that's all that matters. Wanted to clear that up. I feel I owe it to you guys (viewers). I don't want to let anyone down ever again." They do edit the heck out of these shows( all of them) they need to bring the drama and the uncertainty.. I'm glad Jax and Brits dad are okay..her mother and grandmother are already okay with Jax. I bet they don't wait long to have babies, I don't know any spoilers, it's just a feeling.. Thanks Girly..  |
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Post by annifran on Apr 24, 2019 16:12:58 GMT
I was shocked by Jax's comments on the last episode about always putting himself first. To say what he did in front of Brittany's family was so inappropriate. Hopefully it was nothing more than poor editing as apparently both he and B's family have reported.
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I think she has as much talent as EJ from rhobh. None.. 
