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Post by JustJuls on Dec 3, 2020 17:43:08 GMT
Braunwyn is all over the place. I think she needs to go to therapy and figure herself out before she involves her children in whatever comes next. I agree. It's a very touchy thing. On the one hand, it seems like Jacob's journey is helping her to have the courage to be more open about her own. On the surface that's a great thing - but I do wonder what impact that has on Jacob. Is it encouraging for him to go through things with his mom? Or is it too much weight on his shoulders. Then, you add in there the anxiety that her daughter was talking about last night and have to wonder how much Braunwyn is putting anxieties on her kids as they see her own? I do worry about the wisdom of allowing the kids challenges to play out on air. But at the same time, I'm moved by just how honest and open Braunwayn has been this season. The moment last night when she was trying to tell her daughter about the meeting she'd gone to an Sean jumped in to finish the story ... Braunwyn yelling out that no one was letting her speak said so much! It's very compelling ... but I do wonder what the cost is for such compelling TV. That scene with her daughter last night was cringe-worthy for me. 90% of that shouldn't have been said in front of her. I realize she's 17 and can handle more than the little ones. But did you see her face? It looked like she was holding back tears. And all in front of a camera and crew? Just no. Give a hoot about your kid please.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 3, 2020 17:54:30 GMT
What her family is going through right now is very similar as I see it to the Guidices on Jersey last season. The honesty of the challenges they are going through is heartbreaking and compelling to watch - but I watch it thinking "I'm invading here. We should not be present!"
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 3, 2020 17:59:35 GMT
What her family is going through right now is very similar as I see it to the Guidices on Jersey last season. The honesty of the challenges they are going through is heartbreaking and compelling to watch - but I watch it thinking "I'm invading here. We should not be present!" This, very much this. These women seem to be hooked , on their own fame..( such as it is)
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 3, 2020 20:06:42 GMT
Did Elizabeth say she was Mexican .I know I was half asleep, so I wasn't sure. I find her very attractive , and she's in great shape imho.But hells bells, she sure goes on about her money and divorce, and like Gina, I really can't follow her. Why is she texting her ex to say sorry..
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 3, 2020 20:14:22 GMT
Yes....her dad is Mexican. I agree...she goes on & on about money and her ex and her divorce but yet "doesn't want to talk about it" - I'm with Emily, Gina and Shannon on this one
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 3, 2020 20:42:13 GMT
Yes....her dad is Mexican. I agree...she goes on & on about money and her ex and her divorce but yet "doesn't want to talk about it" - I'm with Emily, Gina and Shannon on this one Ah, I didn't know that about her dad..thanks juls.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 4, 2020 5:20:21 GMT
I heard from somewhere..can't remember where... but she's fine now. And I thought I heard it wasn't Covid related..but who knows? Thats good to know, thanks..
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 4, 2020 5:26:37 GMT
No one in that group of HWs realizes Braunwyn stopped drinking alcohol, but almost certainly is on a dry drunk in the episodes we’ve seen. She needs genuine help, AA, counseling, true friends instead of frenemies, and not that flaky pseudo-medicine. It’s been clear on episodes I’ve seen that her husband is done with her; threesomes, orgies and all. He says the right words, but authentic happiness in marriage seldom includes a sex hideout set up specifically for orgies. How could she not know that? Kelly Dodd is filthy. Hard to imagine anyone would marry her... the new sex partner probably won’t .I'm starting to rethink Seans part in Braunwyns life, in her words, he managed her, but the way she spoke to him last night or snapped at him maybe he's keeping the family together in some way, because she sure isnt able to.Perhaps she initiated sex with other women, I guess we'll never really know.I just hope we can move on with the other women, now.!
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 4, 2020 8:04:45 GMT
Oh no....Braunwyn is obviously this seasons storyline unfortunately. And covid too.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 4, 2020 11:30:21 GMT
I heard from somewhere..can't remember where... but she's fine now. And I thought I heard it wasn't Covid related..but who knows? Thats good to know, thanks.. Kelly was on WWHL this week and confirmed that her mom did have COVID. She's out of the hospital now. Kelly said she's currently estranged from her mother (again). She and one of her brothers found out her mom was hospitalized when the brother who does have a relationship with their mom shared it on social media.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 4, 2020 15:48:48 GMT
Oh no....Braunwyn is obviously this seasons storyline unfortunately. And covid too. When they showed what was coming up I thought it looked a little different , maybe not..
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Post by prism on Dec 4, 2020 15:53:08 GMT
The Braunwyn woman- Being a lesbian is no big deal. Unless the players are purposely setting up for exploitation, which seems to be the case here.... national television is not the place for this. Setting up a sex orgy apartment with husband Sean is a sloppy way to live. Continuing to bring children into a duplicitous marriage is a sloppy way to live. These people, grotesque husband Sean included, are a big mess that shouldn't be on national television. Shame on Bravo producers - and Andy Cohen - for exploiting their vulnerability, their ignorance, their hubris, and their greed.
IMHO they need to walk away from reality tv, take it home and figure it out. They have money for the best therapists - go get help. There's no problem setting up separate households, getting appropriate caretakers for the minor children- neither parent is ready for actual parenting - and rebuilding lives of respect and decency. Being a lesbian is not exactly an alternate lifestyle, it's simply being human. Husband Sean is a huge part of the problem - after all he's also been living a lie - and he should be a huge part of the solution.
And for the luvagawd, get that hideous mom-of-Braunwyn the hell out of their lives forever. She is a toxic freak.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 4, 2020 19:42:53 GMT
The Braunwyn woman- Being a lesbian is no big deal. Unless the players are purposely setting up for exploitation, which seems to be the case here.... national television is not the place for this. Setting up a sex orgy apartment with husband Sean is a sloppy way to live. Continuing to bring children into a duplicitous marriage is a sloppy way to live. These people, grotesque husband Sean included, are a big mess that shouldn't be on national television. Shame on Bravo producers - and Andy Cohen - for exploiting their vulnerability, their ignorance, their hubris, and their greed. IMHO they need to walk away from reality tv, take it home and figure it out. They have money for the best therapists - go get help. There's no problem setting up separate households, getting appropriate caretakers for the minor children- neither parent is ready for actual parenting - and rebuilding lives of respect and decency. Being a lesbian is not exactly an alternate lifestyle, it's simply being human. Husband Sean is a huge part of the problem - after all he's also been living a lie - and he should be a huge part of the solution. And for the luvagawd, get that hideous mom-of-Braunwyn the hell out of their lives forever. She is a toxic freak. I knew they had an open marriage, I didn't know about having orgies. An apartment away from the 7 children, might of been a good idea, not that I needed to see it. I guess if I hated them all, I wouldn't watch, maybe I'm enabling strange behavior, just watching the shows, that seem to get more bizarre, due to ratings. Now wonder I'm okay with RHO Cheshire
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 11, 2020 21:49:32 GMT
The more I hear from Braunwyn, the sorrier I feel for Sean( I never thought I'd say that) Why is she she slapping him( again), and in front of the children, what a horrible woman, domestic violence Brauny.!!! How can you have 7 children, and never used a washing machine, I call BS on that.. Shannon was right with her rules, the kids shouldn't go over to friends, and return to her home. I wouldn't allow it, that is why we don't see our granddaughter. I know Shannon is compromised, but she really is a hypochondriac , which is a nightmare during covid Shane seems happier, but he's not having sex with Emily, because she is still tired.. Gina isn't going anywhere to stay safe, but she did meet with Tamara didn't she? , and running over to get the TP Emily had hidden, was funny and sad.... I don't get Kelly, she cannot go an episode without talking about banging, and she still talks about covid, as a flu . I wonder how long she will last with Rick? Elizabeth, she needs more therapy , if only to get her lies straight and of course, she brings up big pharma, she reminds me of Erika on BH, marries an older richer man, when she was a cocktail waitress.. I don't pity any of them, quarantining in their big houses with pools, what a hardship...
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Post by acookertv on Dec 12, 2020 1:29:40 GMT
At some point the sex with Rick will get routine and that will be the downfall of Kelly’s marriage. For now she’s having fun thinking he’s a big deal.
I have a feeling that Emily, like LVP, claims she and Shane never have sex as a way to avoid sharing personal details of their marriage. Can’t say I fault the women who do that. Opening up their lives can have some limits.
I think Braunwyn and Sean are a classic co dependent relationship where both are at fault. Braun won lived having every detail of life taken care of and Sean loved being in control and her relying on him. She’s now changed and it’s thrown off the balance, it’s a really hard situation.
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 12, 2020 1:52:07 GMT
I couldn't believe it when Braunwyn said "I haven't slapped him since...." and here I thought she was going to say 5 years ago, 10 years ago....even 1 year ago! But 3 months!!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2020 2:52:45 GMT
I couldn't believe it when Braunwyn said "I haven't slapped him since...." and here I thought she was going to say 5 years ago, 10 years ago....even 1 year ago! But 3 months!! I know, that's terrible..especially in front oh her children.
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Post by woodiedog on Dec 12, 2020 14:39:47 GMT
Why is Bravo showing domestic abuse? Seems like they should be shutting this down.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2020 17:00:16 GMT
Why is Bravo showing domestic abuse? Seems like they should be shutting this down. They didn't show it, Braunwyn spoke about it. Matt was abusive to Gina, last season. I'm happy she's found someone else
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Post by prism on Dec 14, 2020 15:31:07 GMT
These women are pretty much all sad to watch, their depressing lives, their twisted relationships, the hubris, the barely hidden hate for one another. Worst is the deranged Dodd woman, just a sickening cruel creature. She’s classic sociopath.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 14, 2020 15:43:21 GMT
I don't see them that way, I think the show has always been about showing the other side to wealth ... the notion that people think life "behind the gates" would be so fabulous, but there are sacrifices to make. That said, I do think there are people who find joy and pleasure in watching "pathetic" lives - they find comfort in believing they are better than those they see that way.
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Post by prism on Dec 17, 2020 13:27:43 GMT
I’d find comfort in seeing the Bravo producers do more than send the Kelly woman to anger management - as they’re reported to have done a year or more ago. She acts and sounds very much like a sociopath - that’s apparently why Bravo hired her. She’s fascinatingly broken. I find joy and pleasure in seeing people interacting in uplifting and positive pursuits. Bravo could use more of that. I have no interest in pretending I have insider information about these women,, no interest in proclaiming I’m socially connected to them or “rubbing shoulders” in public or social venues.
I also have no interest in arguing with those who believe themselves to be uber-knowledgeable insiders. I post what I see and hear from these women. They’re not admirable, they’re not kind. They’re not civil or brilliant or fabulous. They uniformly despise one another. They’re not anything to me other than a curiosity, a revolving door of broken lives - specimens of failure being snatched from the jaws of success. It is somewhat fascinating.
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 17, 2020 18:23:18 GMT
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Post by woodiedog on Dec 17, 2020 18:38:53 GMT
The only thing I liked about last nights episode was Lake Arrowhead. Wow. So beautiful.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 17, 2020 18:48:05 GMT
Braunwyn, why bother turning up you debbie downer, I get it, what she is doing is hard, we all get it, Sean has all the kids, but needs to be at her beck and call..I must admit she has a banging body..yikes! Poor Shane, I didn't understand if Emily tested positive, why she didn't self quarantine. This will bring the two of them even closer Kelly, Kelly Kelly Kelly..smh. Fruit loop! I think Gina is still afraid of Matt, I hope she stays with her new guy, and is happy. Shannon is doing everything right, she's a bit OTT, but then, maybe I am. Her daughters seem just fine( so far) Elizabeth meh,she's okay, But Braunwyn hiring a PI to dig up dirt, very wrong on so many levels...
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Post by acookertv on Dec 17, 2020 19:24:26 GMT
I have heard reports from people who live in Orange County that Emily did not follow the protocols they should have when they were infected. I've heard that when Shane was hospitalized and she was overwhelmed taking care of the kids, she continued dropping them off at some activities so she'd have a few hours of downtime, even though they were all supposed to be quarantining. If that is true, then it would not be a surprise if she failed to take the proper precautions to keep Shane from getting it.
I think that Braunwyn had a really tough decision to make going into this season because she was coming to the realization that she had a problem and had to figure out the best way to deal with it. On WWHL she said that she chose to do the season after talking to some Bravolebrities who dealt with addiction because she felt being on camera would keep her accountable and be a tool to help her stay sober. The problem with that is that it put her in a lot of situations that would create big challenges - including the trip (not to mention that if you're only staying sober because of cameras, one can ask if you're truly sober or just dry). Hasn't it been explained in the past that most of those trips are not options when they are filming but an expected part of the job? With Shannon and Emily out, she may have been faced with not having a choice as to whether or not to go.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 17, 2020 19:28:03 GMT
During a pandemic? nope.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 17, 2020 19:38:09 GMT
Is that an assumption, or do you know it for a fact?
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 17, 2020 20:11:42 GMT
When was this filmed? The state of CA was on SIP for months.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 17, 2020 20:14:03 GMT
I believe what we are watching now was filmed mid-April to early May since March 13 was when the world started shutting down, and Brownwyn mentioned last night something about the month they were not filming.
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