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Post by lilymax on Aug 19, 2018 22:43:41 GMT
I don't think Shannon looks that great. Maybe it's just me. In Mexico, she and Vicky definitely look their ages with no makeup the morning after the tequila partying. But I never thought Shannon was that pretty to begin with. I'm sorry to say I don't like her any better yet this season. Maybe after a while being single she'll change some. I did not appreciate seeing that much of Tamra. I agree her kids must be so embarrassed. You gotta give it to Eddie, he's so tolerant of anything she does. He is a nice guy, I hope he will be ok.
There was something a little desperate about the 3 ladies partying in Mexico, this time. It didn't seem all that fun.
Vicky and Steve seemed a good couple at the very first, but now...not so much. I don't think he's her type at all, and vice versa. If she's desperate for him to marry her, and he's not ready to be married or doesn't want to be married to her, then it's all over but the crying, anyway.
Kelly and Shannon def need to get together and go out. They could be friends, you never know. It might be fun for both of them.
Kelly's crying is getting old really fast. And with all the crap she's done to people on the show, I don't get her being so mad at Vicky. Neither of them are that nice, so she should maybe forgive Vicky...for real.
eta: not sure how I feel about the new ladies. gina has a big mouth, but I don't hate her. The divorce happening right about the time she goes on tv....I don't know, it seems something had to be up with the relationship for the time apart to seem acceptable. so maybe not a surprise. the other one, I just don't know. her hubby seems like a "walk on eggs" kind of man to have around. And a cold fish. I wouldn't. lived with one off and on for 10 years, wasn't worth the trouble.
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Post by JoRyMom on Aug 20, 2018 1:00:35 GMT
I think Gina said her husband is licensed in another state?
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Post by prism on Aug 20, 2018 4:44:13 GMT
The Gina divorce - wonder if they already were divorcing when the last episode or two were aired? She was on the phone with the husband, clear from her end of the conversation that he had no interest.... she was at the zoo with her mom and kids, trying to connect with him, bring him into the picture. It was sad. She’s so perky and loud-maybe she’ll calm down when she doesn’t have to hide how she really feels.
I don’t like seeing children on the RH.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 21, 2018 3:35:39 GMT
David sounds vile, and representing himself in court, how'd that work out for you David. ?I have to admit when Shannon was going to court, my hands were so clammy remembering what I went through with my ex. I only wanted my fair share, and he called me every name under the sun..ugh, horrible times!..but I was as scared as she was.
Not sure about the matchmaker right in the middle of the girls having drinks.I guess it could work out. Kelly's milkman, nice to look at, but lordy..talk about boring!..
I see nothing wrong with Emily's husband, she went out, he had the kids, so she said she should get home..the children are little.. Tamra's making a bigger deal of out than it is..
Vicki is always so crude, Dr's office, having their brows done, talking with a room full of guys,most of what she says, gets bleeped out..smh.
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Post by beerbelly on Aug 21, 2018 3:55:24 GMT
Sorry you had to go through that FM. I can't imagine anyone saying anything bad about you. David is a swine. I don't know why she didn't take the 30k. She must be in so much pain. I have such a soft spot for her. I guess because I got divorced too.
I think Shannon should chill her heals for a bit and build up her self confidence and life sans David. I jumped right into a relationship after my divorce and I hadn't really shed the patterns I had when married.
Still really like Gina.
Can we talk about Shane and how he proposed????? Via text?? Gross! And this is her third marriage? I thought by one's third marriage one should have figured it out.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 21, 2018 4:55:16 GMT
Sorry you had to go through that FM. I can't imagine anyone saying anything bad about you. David is a swine. I don't know why she didn't take the 30k. She must be in so much pain. I have such a soft spot for her. I guess because I got divorced too. I think Shannon should chill her heals for a bit and build up her self confidence and life sans David. I jumped right into a relationship after my divorce and I hadn't really shed the patterns I had when married. Still really like Gina. Can we talk about Shane and how he proposed????? Via text?? Gross! And this is her third marriage? I thought by one's third marriage one should have figured it out. Divorce brings out the really nasty side of some people .I'm just glad we didnt have text, I just hung up my phone!  I missed Emily was married three times! Marriages work in funny ways,or they don't. I like Gina, but I think him having an apartment, one she has never seen, is really, really odd! |
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Post by mayamaisha on Aug 21, 2018 5:01:48 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 21, 2018 5:07:58 GMT
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Post by norealityhere on Aug 21, 2018 5:42:38 GMT
Wow!! $22,500 per month is spousal support!!
Yikes!! That seems outrageous.
I think we need to keep in mind we are seeing one side of their marriage / divorce.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 21, 2018 6:45:36 GMT
Wow!! $22,500 per month is spousal support!! Yikes!! That seems outrageous. I think we need to keep in mind we are seeing one side of their marriage / divorce. I thought we saw both sides. The way he spoke to his wife, in front of his children, was extremely disrespectful, and he had an affair, while married. |
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Post by JoRyMom on Aug 21, 2018 14:12:31 GMT
I think Gina said her husband is licensed in another state? I meant Emily! 😊 |
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 21, 2018 14:14:17 GMT
David sounds vile, and representing himself in court, how'd that work out for you David. ?I have to admit when Shannon was going to court, my hands were so clammy remembering what I went through with my ex. I only wanted my fair share, and he called me every name under the sun..ugh, horrible times!.... but I was as scared as she was. Not sure about the matchmaker right in the middle of the girls having drinks.I guess it could work out. Kelly's milkman, nice to look at, but lordy..talk about boring!.. I see nothing wrong with Emily's husband, she went out, he had the kids, so she said she should get home..the children are little.. Tamra's making a bigger deal of out than it is.. Vicki is always so crude, Dr's office, having their brows done, talking with a room full of guys,most of what she says, gets bleeped out..smh. I have not seen the epi yet but just came here to read the thread. FannyMare so many (((hugs))) for what you went through.  |
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Post by momrek06 on Aug 21, 2018 14:15:21 GMT
I think Gina said her husband is licensed in another state? I meant Emily! 😊 @jorymom I figured you meant Emily.  |
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Post by mayamaisha on Aug 21, 2018 16:35:55 GMT
I think Emily’s husband had every right to tell Gina to leave. Don’t know why the ladies have a problem with it. She was disrespecting his house. I think I have the names correct.
Tamara just needs to be very quiet. They are always projecting ish on others. Stay in your lane ladies.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 21, 2018 18:36:07 GMT
I see both sides on husband gate. Unless I totally missed it, I don't think we saw Emily's husband say Gina needed to leave. So it's hard to say if he was rude and yelling like Gina described, or merely said things were getting out and the kids were trying to sleep like Emily said. Which actually happened would matter in determining whether or not he was wrong.
I don't think that we know nearly enough about Emily's husband to know whether or not he's a good husband. In short and being fair to him, he comes across to me as very traditional in terms of the roles for men and women. I can see where Tamra would be turned off by that. She is NOT the kind of woman who'd be happy in a traditional roles family. I think that was part of her problems with Simon. I could not handle being married to a man like that either. But where Tamra and I may differ is that I'll look at that and say it wouldn't work for me, but other women may prefer it, Tamra seems to be stuck in a place of thinking that a marriage like that is bad for anyone because she would not want it herself.
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Post by prism on Aug 24, 2018 19:55:23 GMT
Wow!! $22,500 per month is spousal support!! Yikes!! That seems outrageous. I think we need to keep in mind we are seeing one side of their marriage / divorce. On Shannon's first episodes, she projected confident superiority to Meghan, argued some, looked down on her some, was a little too impressed with herself. She deteriorated quickly with marriage issues and suddenly she was the needy one. She does have strange quirks - the super-seriousness of her "wellness" routine, packing bags and bags of homeo remedies for a trip, special areas of her house limiting her health - all so odd. So, yes, the side of her that's oh-so-strange may have contributed to the divorce. I do think the ex-husband need not have been such a stinkin' creep, though. I suspect as a family they lived on close to a million dollars a year, so I thought $30k was a little low. She can blow through that in a heartbeat, though I guess she's at $500k or so for the HW gig- that helps a lot but could go away without notice. I sure would like to see her stand up to him, throw back some assertive power, no need to be aggressive, but geez, crying b/c he insults her is not the path to strength. I wish her well-- I think she's one of the more decent HWs. |
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Post by lilymax on Aug 27, 2018 15:54:25 GMT
I was horrified when Shannon said the judge ordered David to pay her 30 thousand per month! Wtf? Who needs 30 thousand dollars a month to live on? Even she knew it was outrageous. Her face and her actions said it all. I'm sure David's behaving badly; most men seem to not want to have to pay up when they get divorced. But hell. If I was him, I'd have been outraged at the amount he was initially ordered to pay, as well. He would have done well to hire his own attorney, if only to keep him under control. Shannon isn't perfect herself, but I don't support any male abusing a female, whether emotionally or physically.
My daughter's dad said many rotten things about me during our custody battle, and his lawyer did as well. They would tell her teachers I was unstable and other nasty things I wont repeat. He also said nasty things to our kid about me and my mother (my whole family, really). She loved her Gran, and she would tell us what was being said. She has just recently started to realize he was lying. It's really dirty to involve kids, because if a child hears negatives about Mom from Dad for years, he or she tends to believe some of it. The court is supposed to favor the parent who does NOT engage in that kind of behavior, but my ex's family bought off the judge. The whole thing was a nightmare, but now I don't really worry about the character assassination. Lol. I know who I am.
I hope that David and Shannon don't involve the girls in their war.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 27, 2018 17:07:57 GMT
I was horrified when Shannon said the judge ordered David to pay her 30 thousand per month! Wtf? Who needs 30 thousand dollars a month to live on? Even she knew it was outrageous. Her face and her actions said it all. I'm sure David's behaving badly; most men seem to not want to have to pay up when they get divorced. But hell. If I was him, I'd have been outraged at the amount he was initially ordered to pay, as well. He would have done well to hire his own attorney, if only to keep him under control. Shannon isn't perfect herself, but I don't support any male abusing a female, whether emotionally or physically. My daughter's dad said many rotten things about me during our custody battle, and his lawyer did as well. They would tell her teachers I was unstable and other nasty things I wont repeat. He also said nasty things to our kid about me and my mother (my whole family, really). She loved her Gran, and she would tell us what was being said. She has just recently started to realize he was lying. It's really dirty to involve kids, because if a child hears negatives about Mom from Dad for years, he or she tends to believe some of it. The court is supposed to favor the parent who does NOT engage in that kind of behavior, but my ex's family bought off the judge. The whole thing was a nightmare, but now I don't really worry about the character assassination. Lol. I know who I am. I hope that David and Shannon don't involve the girls in their war. If it's been their lifestyle for a long time, then of course they ask and are awarded that amount.I've seen way( way) higher be asked for..the girls look happy with Shannon, I'm not sure they get along with the 22 year old girlfriend .maybe he should see his children on his own for awhile? |
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Post by lilymax on Aug 27, 2018 17:23:26 GMT
I live in a community property state where divorce settlements are 50% of what you accumulate together during the marriage. There isn't spousal support in most cases, I don't think. Child support, but not spousal. Anything you owned prior to the marriage you keep. My daughter's dad is extremely wealthy. He's one of those guys who has lots of money, but not much else. Lol! But we never married. We were engaged for years, but I left him when I was pregnant because he insisted on remaining a tool. I insisted on my freedom. I paid a heavy price for leaving him, but I know I did the right thing, even if the sad irony was that he bought off a judge and raised my child from age 7 on. I left him in part because I knew I was having a little girl, and didn't want to raise her in a house with a man like him. I use the term "man" loosely. He was abusive to her the entire time.
I know California is different. I just cannot wrap my head around some of the figures. Lol. If those women tried to live on what I do, oh my GOD! Reality check!
No pun intended.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 27, 2018 17:33:47 GMT
I get what you're saying. Where I live, everything( or mostly everything) is split 50/50 and there is spousal support for the for the wife that has stayed home,and raised the children, and now has to find a job..which I think Shannon is doing. While David should provide for his children, I'm hoping Shannon can tell him to stuff his share that is hers..
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Post by acookertv on Aug 27, 2018 17:37:54 GMT
I was horrified when Shannon said the judge ordered David to pay her 30 thousand per month! Wtf? Who needs 30 thousand dollars a month to live on? Even she knew it was outrageous. Her face and her actions said it all. I'm sure David's behaving badly; most men seem to not want to have to pay up when they get divorced. But hell. If I was him, I'd have been outraged at the amount he was initially ordered to pay, as well. He would have done well to hire his own attorney, if only to keep him under control. Shannon isn't perfect herself, but I don't support any male abusing a female, whether emotionally or physically. My daughter's dad said many rotten things about me during our custody battle, and his lawyer did as well. They would tell her teachers I was unstable and other nasty things I wont repeat. He also said nasty things to our kid about me and my mother (my whole family, really). She loved her Gran, and she would tell us what was being said. She has just recently started to realize he was lying. It's really dirty to involve kids, because if a child hears negatives about Mom from Dad for years, he or she tends to believe some of it. The court is supposed to favor the parent who does NOT engage in that kind of behavior, but my ex's family bought off the judge. The whole thing was a nightmare, but now I don't really worry about the character assassination. Lol. I know who I am. I hope that David and Shannon don't involve the girls in their war. I've never been through a divorce or had to negotiate child support. But I've been told (and will stand corrected if I'm wrong) that often times judges will make decisions on child support in order to ensure that kids maintain a similar lifestyle with each parent. They want to avoid where possible a scenario where a kid may have their own bedroom and bathroom, a media room and a pool in the backyard at one parents house, and then share a bedroom with two siblings in a two bedroom apartment at the other parent. On the surface, this makes sense to me. Kids should not be bought by a parent seeking to be the favorite one. If you take into consideration the home prices in Orange County, where according to a quick search on realtor.com shows a monthly payment on a 4 bedroom house could be $10,000+, paying $30,000 a month may not be that out of line - especially if there's an expectation of Shannon covering a lot of the day to day expenses for the girls. |
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Post by queenb on Aug 28, 2018 14:20:46 GMT
The laws do differ from state to state. In ours, spousal support runs one year for every five years of marriage. Most people assume u can buy off a judge, but the reality is they don't favor one parent or the other, even if one parent is behaving badly. It just doesn't count when it comes to the financial distribution. It's based totally on the laws. Most Domestic relations' judges will tell you hiring and paying for exspensive lawyers to "fight" just makes the lawyers rich, because in the end, the laws determine the ratio. Also if you have assets before marriage and you comingle accounts, it will be viewed as a joint asset.
I like Shannon and also have a spot for her. BUT it's time to accept that David is a jerk, she stayed with him way too long and it's time to move on. No more talking about him, crying about what you have been through publicly or with the kids or being shocked that he moved on to a younger gal so fast. She still doesn't get that he left the marriage years ago and hasn't loved her ages.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 28, 2018 18:28:14 GMT
The laws do differ from state to state. In ours, spousal support runs one year for every five years of marriage. Most people assume u can buy off a judge, but the reality is they don't favor one parent or the other, even if one parent is behaving badly. It just doesn't count when it comes to the financial distribution. It's based totally on the laws. Most Domestic relations' judges will tell you hiring and paying for exspensive lawyers to "fight" just makes the lawyers rich, because in the end, the laws determine the ratio. Also if you have assets before marriage and you comingle accounts, it will be viewed as a joint asset. I like Shannon and also have a spot for her. BUT it's time to accept that David is a jerk, she stayed with him way too long and it's time to move on. No more talking about him, crying about what you have been through publicly or with the kids or being shocked that he moved on to a younger gal so fast. She still doesn't get that he left the marriage years ago and hasn't loved her ages.I think she has now, it's still not easy to accept but when she said, he didn't want sex for some time, I think deep down she knew..you just dont want to let yourself believe it.. She said nothing wrong last week about Emily's husband, gawd they make mountains out of molehills. Things will still bubble to the surface, just like they did with Kelly, and she hated her husband.. Vicki, in order to marry Steve( if he even wants to) has once again conformed to whatever that guys needs from her..she reads all the rules for golfing, then proceeds to drink and roll around with Tamra on top.. I have never seen that on a golf course.. Looks like Gina comes clean about her husband Matt next week.. |
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Post by norealityhere on Aug 28, 2018 23:47:22 GMT
I have to say that Tamra has been a good friend and support system for Shannon throughout the divorce / problems.
Eddie has got some serious issues and Shannon and the rest of the girls were aware. Shannon has not reached out to Tamra at all.
So, for Shannon to go on to Tamra last night " Do you know what I go through every day?!!"
I am sorry, Shannon, but I live in an area that is replete with homeless encapments; people who actually do not have a roof over their heads!! Get over yourself, Shannon. The world does not revolve around you.
There are actually other people in it who have serious issues that you cannot imagine.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 29, 2018 9:56:17 GMT
Shannon does have some problems seeing the world through filters outside of her own. That said, I can understand to a degree her over reacting to the whole thing. After all the issues there have been on the show with people throwing around accusation about other women's husbands, I can understand her being very bothered at the thought that other women thought she was accusing a husband of abuse. I think the truth is that it was an honest game of telephone that got things wrong. Shannon talked about him reminding her of David in terms of being checked out. Other women thought David was emotionally abusive to Shannon and applied that filter ... snowball rolls. Of course, as Shannon said, other women raised alarms about him too. Tamra also said he reminded her of Simon. So I'm not sure why Shannon's comments were the ones who stuck.
I do feel bad for Tamra for not getting more care and support from the other women. But I said before and I believe it still - I don't think that Tamra was fully letting on how serious things were (and are) with Eddie. She has a tough exterior and I think she can minimize problems with her friends in order to stay tough herself. It's quite possible that she was minimizing the issue, so even though they knew about it, they didn't comprehend how much it was weighing on her. It's HARD to become vulnerable enough to let friends know you need the help you so desperately want.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 29, 2018 11:21:11 GMT
While I truly feel for Eddie, I'm not a fan of Tamra. I wish I could put my finger on why, she just leaves me feeling indifferent about her..
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Post by acookertv on Aug 29, 2018 13:12:48 GMT
I think that looking at all the seasons that Tamra has been on, she's done some things that make it hard to like her. She's shown a vindictive side, and made life tough on quite a few people. So I can totally understand why people don't like her, or don't warm to her. I think that she's shown some development since getting together with Eddie. I think he's had a nice impact on her finding ways to help her rethink some of the behaviors that have created problems. I can't say she's a beloved housewife to me, but I have grown to like watching what she's up to, because I do see her changing for the better. I'll admit I'm also cynical and wonder how much of the changes she's made are more to clean up her public image. But it does make sense to me that when you've got a couple that is one fireball and one calming presence, the calming presence delivered right could have a positive impact.
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Post by prism on Aug 29, 2018 18:55:19 GMT
While I truly feel for Eddie, I'm not a fan of Tamra. I wish I could put my finger on why, she just leaves me feeling indifferent about her.. I could be wrong about this, but Tamra seems off b/c she's damaged. She grew up trashy - if we can believe episodes from years back; her mother was unyielding and cold, her father was buried in his own failure; and her family - what we're shown of them a few seasons ago - are poor, uneducated, and what some people would call lowlife. They were shown in an episode at the father's house, tattered fugly people, gawdawful grammar, coarse talk, pretty much presenting like rubes. Tamra seemed embarrassed. Tamra comes from less than nothing, has built her pretty-girl moneyed life that stands in contrast to who she feels like inside. Just MHO. So she acts out, trying to prove she's fit, smart, successful, superior in some ways. It's what she attained, nice, but still cannot run from who she thinks Tamra is inside. Because I see her from this point of view, I feel sorry for her rather than thinking she's a troublemaker. At least she made peace with her mother- though their personal interaction usually looks forced. |
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 29, 2018 19:18:52 GMT
I think one thing Tamra has to stop, is messing with her face. Be it botox or fillers, she just looks so hard.
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Post by norealityhere on Sept 1, 2018 20:52:02 GMT
I think she looks hard because she is. Grew up kind of fast Had a baby young, etc.
I like seeing her with Eddie. He has really tamed her and made her a nicer person.
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