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Post by FannyMare on Oct 16, 2018 15:00:36 GMT
Well I think it's an age thing, Gina has a lot of growing up to do, she wants to kvetch, but no advice. . Shannon is set in her ways as Kelly has said. Kelly has changed, she wouldnt of gone to any homeless shelter when she lived in the lap of luxury with Michael, let people find that out in their own time, as she did.. Shannon was very much there for Tamra last season, how soon they all forget
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 16, 2018 18:40:05 GMT
I don't know ... if I'd paid as much for boobs as Tamra likely has and they looked like that, I'd probably take lots of chances to show them off too! Those things are the firmest pair of tata's I've ever seen They do not move.
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Post by stargazer161 on Oct 16, 2018 18:51:59 GMT
^And fake looking too..haha
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 16, 2018 18:53:21 GMT
They look like rocks.. i
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 17, 2018 4:24:13 GMT
Zika virus 2018.. Public health officials have reported that mosquitoes in Jamaica are infected with Zika virus and are spreading it to people. Because Zika virus is primarily spread by mosquitoes, CDC recommends that travelers to Jamaica protect themselves from mosquito bites(https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/travel/page/avoid-bug-bites). score one for Shannon..
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Post by acookertv on Oct 17, 2018 9:54:21 GMT
The CDC also reports that zika symptoms are mild if noticed at all in people unless there is a pregnancy involved. Shannon has given no hints whatsoever of plans to be pregnant anytime soon, nor have Tamra or Vicki. So what was the concern? Truly Emily would have been the only one with ANY concern, and since we learned last week that if she has another baby she won't be carrying it, and already has the embryos, seems like it was a non issue.
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Post by prism on Oct 18, 2018 22:43:47 GMT
I'll defend Shannon a bit on that one. The way that Gina has reacted to the women chiming in on her life discourages the women to listen to her. She wants to talk about her life and wants to talk about her divorce, but doesn't want any feedback at all. For a woman going who has divorce so fresh in her own experience, it would be hard to respect that boundary. So if Gina has made it clear that she doesn't want feedback, and Shannon doesn't know if she can keep her mouth shut, the best thing to do is to stay out of it completely. I like Gina but I think she wants it both ways a lot of the time. Agree on all that. Gina's divorce story is boring. When she finds out about the husband's multiple girlfriends, and that it's been going on probably for the entire marriage (isn't this the next big reveal?), it'll get more interesting - for her; but she won't be taking advice from anyone. Shannon needs to sympathize but give zero feedback, zero advice.
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Post by prism on Oct 18, 2018 22:45:48 GMT
I don't know ... if I'd paid as much for boobs as Tamra likely has and they looked like that, I'd probably take lots of chances to show them off too! Those things are the firmest pair of tata's I've ever seen They do not move. Wouldn't that be really uncomfortable? Tamra works hard for that body, but throwing it in everyone's face cheapens all that hard work. Wear that bikini with flair, girl, but pulling your shirt up in everyone's faces - in just about every episode - ? nooooo just noooo.
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Post by lilymax on Oct 19, 2018 16:26:06 GMT
I don't want to see any more of Tamra's nude body. I don't have issues with nudity and I'm no prude, however it doesn't belong on tv. I'm old school...or maybe just old. But I grew up in a time when they didn't even allow swearing on television. No sex, either. I don't know why it bothers me so much except that its tamra we're discussing, and she knows or thinks her body is the best. Doesn't she claim that she's the hottest housewife in the OC? LOL!!!
I find her flashing annoying and her tits have a disturbingly fake look. Yuck. I also think she may want to ease up before her arms start looking masculine. I don't think she's going for the bodybuilding look, but who knows? Personally, I find women who do too much along the lines of building muscle end up looking awful and masculine.
Kelly's just nasty, and she isn't as bright as one would want. Heather was much smarter than these women, and I think she attracted many viewers for that reason. Even if she was pretentious, she was the only hw I can think of who could actually keep it classy at times. The fact tht she even tried with this bunch makes her stand out.
Shannon I don't really like, but there's something odd about how I feel a connection with her on one thing...her being "negative". I do think she is negative, but I have people in my life who see my negative comments as complaining when I am actually smiling when I make some remarks. Its part of my dry sense of humor. I can be sarcastic, and I learned from my dad, I guess. Came by it honestly. But I'm not a negative thinker on a grand scale, and it hurts when people accuse you of being negative or dark when it's all meant in fun. Like I said, I do think Shannon is negative. What bothers me more about her is her entitled behavior and her looking down on new girls on the show. She feels she's like Vicky now, and she's being a bit of a jerk about it. They are closer in age, so I can see them bonding. Shannon's a bit spoiled, and the things that freak her out sometimes seem really petty or silly. I don't think she really relates to the other girls, like Gina, when they have problems and need support. She's used to being the one who is needy.
Emily should stop trying with Shannon. Gina should stay married, because I think she's just feeling the restlessness of a married woman whose husband isn't around much and who still believes in the white knight on the white horse riding in to sweep her into ... what? Another marriage, in which she could become bored again? They are only men, after all. Not knights on horses who will always focus on bringing romance and thrills to your life. If I were going to team up with a man to share life with, he would need to be my friend, first and foremost. She says she already has that, with her husband. I wish she weren't so young, and she could see it thru older eyes. But she will find out.
However, if he's lost interest and cheats serially, it wouldn't work anyway. But possibly they both need time apart to see what life out there as a single is really like. He might get tired of straying and see his best friend at his side.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Oct 19, 2018 19:46:29 GMT
While I'm not offended by the cursing and nudity, it's just plain enough for me. Tamara wonders why her daughter doesn't want a relationship with her. There's exhibit A, Tamara flashing the camera everytime she can. Great business move. I really can't honestly say much more about this franchise since I just stopped watching after the first 2 weeks. I was bored with the 2 newbies and by Kelly discussing adult things with her young daughter.
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Post by norealityhere on Oct 23, 2018 4:46:52 GMT
Negative people are totally draining. Enough said.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 23, 2018 5:00:25 GMT
I can't listen to Gina or Tamra anymore and I think Gina and Emily were told a lot before they came on this show..
Vicki was drinking with Shannon, and Shannon said she was getting drunk..
I really hated what Vicki wore to go on the bobsleds, it looked like evening wear 'gone bad'
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Post by acookertv on Oct 23, 2018 9:54:47 GMT
I think that Tamra and Kelly revealed a lot last night that they'd likely meant not to. I feel like we got a lot of insight into Shannon's contributions to the downfall of her marriage. It's quite possible that she's dealt with depression for a while now, and it's gone undiagnosed therefore untreated. David may have done a lot to pick up the pieces, and got to where he couldn't take it anymore so he looked elsewhere. If any of that speculation is true, it would not justify his cheating, but would paint a more full picture of how in most marriages both people contribute to the failure. Shannon seemed so sensitive to the suggestion of getting on an anti-depressant that to me it hinted that David had pushed for that too, and it took her back to a place of feeling scared she'd be abandoned. It was frustrating to watch, but it was really sad.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 23, 2018 12:55:54 GMT
I was against taking anything for depression, I was scared, once on them, I could never get off. Thankfully I had a supportive spouse.
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Post by stargazer161 on Oct 23, 2018 13:49:01 GMT
Shannon really is insufferable....
She needs a therapist or medication..something is off.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 23, 2018 15:55:27 GMT
I was against taking anything for depression, I was scared, once on them, I could never get off. Thankfully I had a supportive spouse. I am fortunate that i've never suffered from clinical depression. But twice in my life I have suffered from hormone induced depression. The first time, I had no idea until a few months after the fact. It had been induced by a medication, the medication was changed for other reasons, and when I came out of the dark I realized just what kind of state I'd been in. The second time, thanks in part to the first experience, I realized what was happening, was able to consult a fantastic nurse, get advice from a great doctor and care from a great pharmacist that minimized things. It was scary, and I realized after the fact that it was also scary and trying for loved ones around me. In my case, I didn't need medication to get out of depression, I needed to get away from medication in order to get out of depression. Every case i different. I totally understand why people are reluctant to turn to medication, and think there are some times when it's prescribed too quickly and for the wrong reasons. I do not think the things we see on these shows tell enough for viewers to fully judge a situation. That said, I did think that a lot of the things Tamra and Kelly were talking about last night with Shannon may have been signs of depression. She's at an age where her body may be changing hormonally in ways that could be causing some form of depression in her. I think it would be worth it for her to talk to a good doctor to rule out any abnormalities. But I also respect that Shannon is very big on a holistic approach and may be very reluctant to do that. It's tough. On a different subject from last night - I'm really getting tired of the way that Vicki becomes "Switzerland" in so many conflicts. It doesn't seem like she's staying out of things to keep the peace. It seems like she's staying out of things for more selfish reasons. She's looking out for herself and failing to have the back of any of her friends. It's not a good look.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 23, 2018 16:23:42 GMT
She's the one that kept saying keep on drinking, she forgets that's she's been trying to change her image to one Steve likes.
It's terrible to be depressed, and yes we all know people go through bad things, but I do feel for Shannon, the weight, the divorce, the depression, the new job has really helped, and being ganged up on because she doesn't want to be all over Gina and Emily, smacks of production and Tamra manipulation, and bullying. I'd likely go off on my own..sometimes you need to be by yourself.she's been having fun..leave her be for heaven's sake.I have a friend right now with health issues, there are nodes on her liver, she has sometimes had a feeding tube, and I don't know all the things that are wrong.She has called me crying at night, I said I would be there for her and I am..am I tired sometimes, yes, but if you don't want to be there, dont! Don't play the victim card because you are no better than what they are calling Shannon! Kelly has gained angel wings complete with halo, it sounds to me like she misses her old life, but we will see.
Gina is getting divorced and have sex with him, she isn't very bright imho, and the only time we see fun Emily is when she has been drinking, and is away from her overbearing husband..
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Post by mayamaisha on Oct 23, 2018 18:06:45 GMT
Shannon really is insufferable....
She needs a therapist or medication..something is off. Shannon knows she’s wrong but doesn’t want to face it. Yes she has stressors and she probably is going thru something physically or psychologically but being so health conscience seems she’d be a bit more proactive. What was her excuse for her behavior before the divorce, before QVC, before gaining weight?
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Post by queenb on Oct 24, 2018 15:37:30 GMT
Shannon really is insufferable....
She needs a therapist or medication..something is off. Shannon knows she’s wrong but doesn’t want to face it. Yes she has stressors and she probably is going thru something physically or psychologically but being so health conscience seems she’d be a bit more proactive. What was her excuse for her behavior before the divorce, before QVC, before gaining weight? Hmm I understand how you feel but to me, Shannon was picking up on David's infidelity long before it came out. Unfortunaely the whole time Shannon has been on OC, the marriage was falling apart. I disagree about depression meds. Shannon I think is actually going through grief, not depression. They look alike but are not. She is accomplishing way too much to be in a clinical depression. And research says also, exercise, which she is doing, is as effective at helping mild or moderate depression as meds. With grief, you just have to go through it. Tamara is a two faced, higher than mighty, bitch. Why would anyone be friends with her. A phony. Shannon would be smart to drop her but we know they all keep this stupid show close to the vest. I'm guessing Gina has a bf. She has all the signs of someone who is screwing someone and can't wait to be free. She's a fool right now. She's low class, doesn't seem to have a career path, not that bright and what women complains non stop that an older women, with whom you probably have nothing in common, isn't all over you. BTW I find her mom stuff so dam boring/ Emily.. someone tell her she does not have the body for the skimpy clothes. She has way to much excess. And Vicki too needs to cover up more,..way to much excess to be flattering. I also noticed Emily's law office. She's no heavy hitter when it comes to that..her office certainly did look like partner material in a top firm. Looked more like the director of a daycare operation. ANd what does her husband do exactly.?? I still think Kelly is bipolar. End of rant!!! On a personalHope you all are well. I have not been on here for a while so nice to catch up with you!! I just hit my 10 year survival marker for breast cancer. It's significant because my risk rate now is back to normal. As you know if you have had cancer, you are never are cured...but I am so grateful!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 24, 2018 15:54:41 GMT
It was clear to me from what Shannon and Kelly said that there's a lot going on with Shannon that we're not seeing on the show, so I think it's hard to determine who exactly is right and who is full of it. I think you make a great point about grief vs depression. I also think there can be times where a person manipulates challenges for both attention and an excuse for bad behavior, and doesn't make any efforts to get through it. That kind of relationship can be very draining. I think it's hard to really say whose right and whose wrong when there is so much happening that we don't see. Better to just sit back and enjoy the drama.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 24, 2018 16:02:48 GMT
I agree 100%!
The bolded, that's why I posted production interference, but it could be her very weak storyline. She's having sex with her husband I believe.She's drab and a little dim.
Congratulations on your 10 year mark, continued good health.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 24, 2018 17:16:00 GMT
Ahh come on....Emily, Vicki and every other woman out there should wear what ever they are comfortable in.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Oct 24, 2018 17:18:59 GMT
I am not ashamed nor do I feel guilty about being on medications for both depression & anxiety. I did therapy. I learned to deal with my issues. I weaned myself off the depression meds and, for the most part, I am off the anxiety medication. I take a low dose every now and then when I just can't turn my brain off to sleep. I do not take them every night and yes my doctor knows & supports what I am doing. Life has a way of getting to me. I had a mom with dementia and I won't even discuss my husband. Both passed within 6 months of each other.
Now I am at the point in my life where I just won't allow to anything to affect me negatively. I have learned, through therapy, to take a step back & take a breath before responding to anything I might perceive as a negative. Most times I find a response is just not worth my time.
I have not seen much of this season. I was bored by the 2 newbies. Seriously, what to 30 somethings have in common with 50 somethings??? If Tamera is still screeching, Kelly is shouting, Vicky is annoying & Shannon is over drinking and depressed, why would/should I watch???
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Post by betty80 on Oct 24, 2018 23:21:15 GMT
I agree that Tamra can put her boobs away. Doesn't she flash at least once a season? We get it. Shannon can say some funny things, but each season she seems to spiral more and more. I hope she can get some help. Her ex doesn't sound so great. Her daughters need a healthy parent. I don't know if she screams like that in front of them. I wonder if the two new wives will be back. They haven't really captured my attention so far.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 25, 2018 3:32:03 GMT
I agree that Tamra can put her boobs away. Doesn't she flash at least once a season? We get it. Shannon can say some funny things, but each season she seems to spiral more and more. I hope she can get some help. Her ex doesn't sound so great. Her daughters need a healthy parent. I don't know if she screams like that in front of them . I wonder if the two new wives will be back. They haven't really captured my attention so far. I doubt they will. That's jmho, but they pretty blah..
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Post by queenb on Oct 25, 2018 22:43:56 GMT
Ahh come on....Emily, Vicki and every other woman out there should wear what ever they are comfortable in. But I always thought the point of good fashion was to wear what flatters you best, regardless of your size. My point, and it's just my opinion, is that too many women wear the wrong size. Just because you can squeeze into a size 10, when your really need a size 14, you shouldn't. Both Emily & Vicki often wear clothes that are too small and their excesses become the focal point, not the person.
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Post by queenb on Oct 25, 2018 22:47:16 GMT
I am not ashamed nor do I feel guilty about being on medications for both depression & anxiety. I did therapy. I learned to deal with my issues. I weaned myself off the depression meds and, for the most part, I am off the anxiety medication. I take a low dose every now and then when I just can't turn my brain off to sleep. I do not take them every night and yes my doctor knows & supports what I am doing. Life has a way of getting to me. I had a mom with dementia and I won't even discuss my husband. Both passed within 6 months of each other. Now I am at the point in my life where I just won't allow to anything to affect me negatively. I have learned, through therapy, to take a step back & take a breath before responding to anything I might perceive as a negative. Most times I find a response is just not worth my time. I have not seen much of this season. I was bored by the 2 newbies. Seriously, what to 30 somethings have in common with 50 somethings??? If Tamera is still screeching, Kelly is shouting, Vicky is annoying & Shannon is over drinking and depressed, why would/should I watch??? I agree and no one should ever be ashamed of taking medication. It's not about that. But way too often, depression is misdiagnosed and anti depressants are prescribed at the drop of a hat, often by primary care drs. who have training in that area.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 26, 2018 0:10:57 GMT
Ahh come on....Emily, Vicki and every other woman out there should wear what ever they are comfortable in. But I always thought the point of good fashion was to wear what flatters you best, regardless of your size. My point, and it's just my opinion, is that too many women wear the wrong size. Just because you can squeeze into a size 10, when your really need a size 14, you shouldn't. Both Emily & Vicki often wear clothes that are too small and their excesses become the focal point, not the person. I see. I thought you were saying because of their size they shouldn't wear revealing clothes or short shorts. Yes...wearing the appropriate size is a good thing
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Post by norealityhere on Oct 26, 2018 5:01:07 GMT
I thought this week's episode finally showed both sides to Shannon / David's relationship. I had an older sister who committed suicide and a younger one who has been on / off anti depressants. Nothing to be ashamed of, but those around them do have a difficult time.
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Post by Realitychick on Oct 26, 2018 17:56:01 GMT
I am rooting for Shannon, she is bat sh*t crazy but her story resembles my mothers in a way and I can somewhat relate. I don't even know what to say about Kelly. The new girls really haven't peeked my interest. Vicki is Vicki and I'm not surprised with anything she says or does. She has been a consistent mess since season one.
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