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Post by stargazer161 on Feb 21, 2020 20:06:08 GMT
Yeah...Teresa is going to get some heat for telling Danielle she should pull Margaret's hair. AND I hope Melissa gets her to see that it was easy for Danielle to throw Teresa under the bus and that she isn't a true friend at all. Let's be done with Danielle completely. Haha, Teresa looks to get all upset that she gets called out by Danielle in the next episode! Hilarious.... |
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Post by stargazer161 on Feb 21, 2020 20:08:32 GMT
I have not watched this week's episode yet, but I did see the clip on WWHL of the exchange between Melissa and Danielle. Did Teresa confirm that she told Danielle to do it? Or was the only thing that indicated that Danielle saying it? Because if the conversation between Melissa and Danielle is all that was shown, I do not believe Teresa said it. I think Danielle would do or say anything to take the heat off of her, including throwing Teresa under the bus in a way that attempted to create an issue again between Melissa and Teresa. Teresa did tell Danielle to pull Marge's hair...they showed the clip. And Teresa looks to get bent out of shape in the next episode...throwing drinks around and all. Classy lady, lol... BTW----next week is the season finale. |
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 21, 2020 21:22:34 GMT
Danielle comes over to Teresa and whispers in her ear "So & so (the store owner) said I should pull her hair."
Teresa "yeah, do it! do it! you should!" (something like that)
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Post by acookertv on Feb 22, 2020 1:16:30 GMT
I’m caught up on this weeks episode now. I’m still not convinced what Danielle said is true. Yesterday, Tamra from OC was on Jeff Lewis’ radio show. She said that the whole train gate from the OC last season was producer manipulation. There was a scene on that show with a discussion between a few of the women that allegedly happened in an SUV driving them home. But Tamra says they were never in the car together. She said they pulled together audio from separate interviews and made them look like a conversation.
Jeff said the same thing on Flipping Out. There was a scene where he was talking to Jenny about a problem with an employee and they had Jenny saying “fire him” which she never said. Jeff said they pulled the audio from a different season.
Based on that, since we didn’t see Danielles lips (they were buried in Teresa hair) and don’t hear her we are relying n the captioning being accurate. But there’s not a great track record of Bravo being truthful with captions. Danielle May have said he wanted her to do something more innocent which Teresa said do it. I mean who premeditates hair pulling?
Either way, Teresa was still taking Danielles side, and that’s been Delores beef all along.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 22, 2020 2:28:58 GMT
I’m caught up on this weeks episode now. I’m still not convinced what Danielle said is true. Yesterday, Tamra from OC was on Jeff Lewis’ radio show. She said that the whole train gate from the OC last season was producer manipulation. There was a scene on that show with a discussion between a few of the women that allegedly happened in an SUV driving them home. But Tamra says they were never in the car together. She said they pulled together audio from separate interviews and made them look like a conversation. Jeff said the same thing on Flipping Out. There was a scene where he was talking to Jenny about a problem with an employee and they had Jenny saying “fire him” which she never said. Jeff said they pulled the audio from a different season. Based on that, since we didn’t see Danielles lips (they were buried in Teresa hair) and don’t hear her we are relying n the captioning being accurate. But there’s not a great track record of Bravo being truthful with captions. Danielle May have said he wanted her to do something more innocent which Teresa said do it. I mean who premeditates hair pulling? Either way, Teresa was still taking Danielles side, and that’s been Delores beef all along. YIKES......now I figured there was some "producer manipulation" on all these Bravo shows BUT certainly not to the point of them EDITING scenes and and piecing together audio from different conversations and making it look like a conversation that actually NEVER happened.  I mean it's a NO BRAINER that the more drama that are on these Reality Shows get better audiences and better audiences get better RATINGS ...... but gawd.  |
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 22, 2020 3:54:45 GMT
Well good grief  |
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 22, 2020 5:26:09 GMT
I’m caught up on this weeks episode now. I’m still not convinced what Danielle said is true. Yesterday, Tamra from OC was on Jeff Lewis’ radio show. She said that the whole train gate from the OC last season was producer manipulation. There was a scene on that show with a discussion between a few of the women that allegedly happened in an SUV driving them home. But Tamra says they were never in the car together. She said they pulled together audio from separate interviews and made them look like a conversation. Jeff said the same thing on Flipping Out. There was a scene where he was talking to Jenny about a problem with an employee and they had Jenny saying “fire him” which she never said. Jeff said they pulled the audio from a different season. Based on that, since we didn’t see Danielles lips (they were buried in Teresa hair) and don’t hear her we are relying n the captioning being accurate. But there’s not a great track record of Bravo being truthful with captions. Danielle May have said he wanted her to do something more innocent which Teresa said do it. I mean who premeditates hair pulling? Either way, Teresa was still taking Danielles side, and that’s been Delores beef all along. YIKES......now I figured there was some "producer manipulation" on all these Bravo shows BUT certainly not to the point of them EDITING scenes and and piecing together audio from different conversations and making it look like a conversation that actually NEVER happened. I mean it's a NO BRAINER that the more drama that are on these Reality Shows get better audiences and better audiences get better RATINGS ...... but gawd. I always figured there was a lot. I like to see how far they will stoop, so I watch and snark..lol Teresa throwing something at Delores, is pretty typical of her imho We' ll see next week I guess.. |
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Post by prism on Feb 22, 2020 21:06:21 GMT
Supposing by now we should expect shenanigans from everyone, including Bravo producers, Camera people, the works.
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Post by woodiedog on Feb 23, 2020 22:49:19 GMT
Bravo PWB hired Danielle to do all Theresa’s dirty work. Theresa could not do any assaults, due to her prior record. So Bravo hired Danielle to do Theresa’s bidding. This explains Theresa’s “friendship” with Danielle.
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Post by stargazer161 on Feb 24, 2020 16:00:17 GMT
Nothing would surprise me when it comes to Teresa. She's not a changed woman...at all.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 27, 2020 10:47:07 GMT
I thought that all in all they did a pretty good job of showing the Guidice visit to Italy. I'd forgotten about the season they visited Italy - mixing in the clips of that trip and how small the girls were tugged at my heartstrings. It was touching to see how much it meant to the girls and to Joe to all be together again.
Even though it was for the better, it was sad to see Teresa and Joe ending things. It felt to me like Joe was playing to the cameras in his kindness to Teresa. I think he realized how bad he came across in the interview with Andy Cohen and was trying to fix it. They also made it clear that Teresa was checked out and there was no chance of fixing things. I'd be proud of her for standing up for herself and figuring out how to be on her own except that knowing she's with the pool guy now (even if she's trying to claim they are only friends) it seems like Teresa was only ready to dump Joe when she found someone new. That made it hard for me to appreciate or support how cold Teresa was towards him -- not that it made me take Joe's side!
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2020 15:06:05 GMT
I think Teresa and Joe could have had its own hour.. It all seemed very self serving, and they are going to appeal what?..lol
I prefer seeing the other housewives.
Wth was Tersa wearing to the backyard party, her taste in friends, is the same as the way she dresses, bad.
I don't know why everyone was waiting to see if she was okay, after she was caught telling Danielle to pull Margaret's hair. I'd be furious, well handled Margaret .Delores still standing up with excuses. All in all it was a cr@ppy hour. Joe thought Teresa was going to be his dutiful wife, meanwhile, she had moved on ages ago.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 27, 2020 20:34:56 GMT
I thought that all in all they did a pretty good job of showing the Guidice visit to Italy. I'd forgotten about the season they visited Italy - mixing in the clips of that trip and how small the girls were tugged at my heartstrings. It was touching to see how much it meant to the girls and to Joe to all be together again. Even though it was for the better, it was sad to see Teresa and Joe ending things. It felt to me like Joe was playing to the cameras in his kindness to Teresa. I think he realized how bad he came across in the interview with Andy Cohen and was trying to fix it. They also made it clear that Teresa was checked out and there was no chance of fixing things. I'd be proud of her for standing up for herself and figuring out how to be on her own except that knowing she's with the pool guy now (even if she's trying to claim they are only friends) it seems like Teresa was only ready to dump Joe when she found someone new. That made it hard for me to appreciate or support how cold Teresa was towards him -- not that it made me take Joe's side! I really really enjoyed the segment (ha, more than half the hour!) of Italy. I am not a huge fan (to put it lightly) of Joe's but seeing him with his daughters again definitely made me tear up a bit. I feel for those girls more than anything. It was crazy to though that they hadn't been with their dad for years and they went all the way to Italy for TWO nights? What the what?!? |
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Post by acookertv on Feb 27, 2020 20:45:01 GMT
The amount of time they spent there made me mad too, and felt like manipulation from Teresa. A large part of me thinks that if it had not been filmed, Teresa would not have made the effort to get them over there to see him. They could have missed a few days of school in order to have more time with him. I am glad that they spent Christmas with him there. That shows that they'll be able to get there and see him without Teresa getting in the way. It would actually not surprise me if they don't spend the full Summer with him so that Teresa can have more free time with her pool guy.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2020 20:49:10 GMT
It was all for show, and TV.He was in jail, next time , abide by the law. He seemed angry at his kids, he's lost weight, but not his ego. Get off my screen Joe..lol
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Post by acookertv on Feb 27, 2020 21:09:56 GMT
I didn't see anger towards his kids. I saw that he really appreciated getting to be with them. I think he started out trying to be tender with Teresa to look good on camera, and when she rejected him, he got angry with her for not playing along and saving face. But I didn't see any anger towards the girls.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 27, 2020 21:32:18 GMT
Soooo not a fan of Joe...(said that a million times) but the last thing I saw from him was anger towards his children. He could barely let go of them.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2020 21:41:52 GMT
Soooo not a fan of Joe...(said that a million times) but the last thing I saw from him was anger towards his children. He could barely let go of them. He apologized to Teresa for being snarky with his girls, he said he wasn't used to that..he should put the wine down.. |
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 27, 2020 21:42:42 GMT
I didn't see anger towards his kids. I saw that he really appreciated getting to be with them. I think he started out trying to be tender with Teresa to look good on camera, and when she rejected him, he got angry with her for not playing along and saving face. But I didn't see any anger towards the girls. So why apologize then, because he did..lol |
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 28, 2020 0:46:57 GMT
I thought that all in all they did a pretty good job of showing the Guidice visit to Italy. I'd forgotten about the season they visited Italy - mixing in the clips of that trip and how small the girls were tugged at my heartstrings. It was touching to see how much it meant to the girls and to Joe to all be together again. Even though it was for the better, it was sad to see Teresa and Joe ending things. It felt to me like Joe was playing to the cameras in his kindness to Teresa. I think he realized how bad he came across in the interview with Andy Cohen and was trying to fix it. They also made it clear that Teresa was checked out and there was no chance of fixing things. I'd be proud of her for standing up for herself and figuring out how to be on her own except that knowing she's with the pool guy now (even if she's trying to claim they are only friends) it seems like Teresa was only ready to dump Joe when she found someone new. That made it hard for me to appreciate or support how cold Teresa was towards him -- not that it made me take Joe's side! I really really enjoyed the segment (ha, more than half the hour!) of Italy. I am not a huge fan (to put it lightly) of Joe's but seeing him with his daughters again definitely made me tear up a bit. I feel for those girls more than anything. It was crazy to though that they hadn't been with their dad for years and they went all the way to Italy for TWO nights? What the what?!? OMGosh......I have not seen the epi yet but dear Lord to fly across the country to Italy for TWO nights?  |
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Post by acookertv on Feb 28, 2020 1:12:25 GMT
I didn't see anger towards his kids. I saw that he really appreciated getting to be with them. I think he started out trying to be tender with Teresa to look good on camera, and when she rejected him, he got angry with her for not playing along and saving face. But I didn't see any anger towards the girls. So why apologize then, because he did..lol Because he spent four years in prison away from them and then was deported and can’t be there for them? |
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 28, 2020 1:52:54 GMT
So why apologize then, because he did..lol Because he spent four years in prison away from them and then was deported and can’t be there for them? In the car, after he snapped at Gia.???????????Why did she say, I have to put up with that all the time?? Nothing to do with his breaking the law and being deported.. |
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Post by acookertv on Feb 28, 2020 2:13:59 GMT
Fanny we’re not going to agree on this and I’m okay with that. I don’t see people as either good or bad. I think the entire situation this family is in is very complex. I think joe is beaten down and feeling a lot of guilt towards his family. I think the girls are feeling broken hearted. I think that Teresa is conflicted feeling bad for letting her girls down but excited for a new life.
What I saw last night was the heartbreaking end of a family. I was moved by the honesty of it. So have at it with your insistence that Joe is bad and can’t be anything else. But I don’t watch the show that way and I’m not joining that bandwagon.
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 28, 2020 5:01:38 GMT
Fanny we’re not going to agree on this and I’m okay with that. I don’t see people as either good or bad. I think the entire situation this family is in is very complex. I think joe is beaten down and feeling a lot of guilt towards his family. I think the girls are feeling broken hearted. I think that Teresa is conflicted feeling bad for letting her girls down but excited for a new life. What I saw last night was the heartbreaking end of a family. I was moved by the honesty of it. So have at it with your insistence that Joe is bad and can’t be anything else. But I don’t watch the show that way and I’m not joining that bandwagon. I don't care if we disagree, I know he said sorry for being snappy. I don't care about Teresa or Joe. The girls like having a holiday in Italy, I think it's good for them , get away from tv life..that moms addicted to.. |
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 28, 2020 15:34:00 GMT
I really really enjoyed the segment (ha, more than half the hour!) of Italy. I am not a huge fan (to put it lightly) of Joe's but seeing him with his daughters again definitely made me tear up a bit. I feel for those girls more than anything. It was crazy to though that they hadn't been with their dad for years and they went all the way to Italy for TWO nights? What the what?!? OMGosh......I have not seen the epi yet but dear Lord to fly across the country to Italy for TWO nights? You should see the luggage they take..so hard done by..  Joe says his crime was nothing, whatever buddy. |
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Post by FannyMare on Feb 29, 2020 22:04:13 GMT
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Post by stargazer161 on Mar 2, 2020 15:48:17 GMT
The scene with them at the restaurant...yeah, that was sad because the girls started crying and so did the parents...that touched me. Even my husband said it was sad. I am glad they are calling it quits. Teresa has so checked out and can't stand to be around him. I don't blame her...
If I were Marge I would not trust Teresa anymore..nor would I want to be in the same room as her.
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Post by momrek06 on Mar 2, 2020 16:19:40 GMT
The scene with them at the restaurant...yeah, that was sad because the girls started crying and so did the parents...that touched me. Even my husband said it was sad. I am glad they are calling it quits. Teresa has so checked out and can't stand to be around him. I don't blame her... If I were Marge I would not trust Teresa anymore..nor would I want to be in the same room as her. I agree that scene was so sad. Sweet Gabriella just kept her head down. Teresa and Juicy were crying/emotional because the TWO OF THEM are totally responsible for their family imploding. Yes as some of the girls said " we are finally all together" ..... but only for that meal. These parents did such injustice to their daughters with all their CRIMINAL actions. I have not seen last night's epi yet. |
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Post by stargazer161 on Mar 2, 2020 16:20:25 GMT
Yep, they both act so innocent....
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Post by acookertv on Mar 2, 2020 16:48:13 GMT
The scene with them at the restaurant...yeah, that was sad because the girls started crying and so did the parents...that touched me. Even my husband said it was sad. I am glad they are calling it quits. Teresa has so checked out and can't stand to be around him. I don't blame her... If I were Marge I would not trust Teresa anymore..nor would I want to be in the same room as her. I agree that scene was so sad. Sweet Gabriella just kept her head down. Teresa and Juicy were crying/emotional because the TWO OF THEM are totally responsible for their family imploding. Yes as some of the girls said " we are finally all together" ..... but only for that meal. These parents did such injustice to their daughters with all their CRIMINAL actions. I have not seen last night's epi yet. I think that in all honesty, even if Joe and Teresa had never been prosecuted, their marriage would have eventaully failed. They were not good to each other. When Teresa was talking about it at the shore, her focus of complaints about Joe was not focused on his crimes. She was focused on the things he said about her, alleged cheating, etc. The prison time no doubt played into it as it gave her a way to see life without him and realize how badly she was treated. But I think that even if they'd never gone to prison, Teresa would have had opportunities to discover that other men could treat her better, and they still would have been doomed. |
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Joe says his crime was nothing, whatever buddy.