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Post by MFWalkoff on Feb 8, 2019 0:49:03 GMT
Hoop Dreams - "Top Chef" alum Ed Lee drops by for a Quickfire that's part trivia, part culinary creativity. Then, the chefs head to Rupp Arena where legendary basketball Coach John Calipari and the UK Wildcats host a concession stand cook-off. Food & Wine Editor-in-Chief Hunter Lewis guest judges.
Enjoy the show!
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denz
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Post by denz on Feb 8, 2019 2:32:58 GMT
Oh, this could be a fun episode.
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Post by Kao on Feb 8, 2019 3:55:44 GMT
This was a very fun episode, even though I was sad that someone got their feelings hurt. Was very happy for Eric and the rest of the White team, was very upset over who went home.
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Post by flowerchild8150 on Feb 8, 2019 3:58:29 GMT
Sara annoys me every episode.
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Post by FireWoman on Feb 8, 2019 4:45:23 GMT
I am sorry, but I think Sara should have been sent home. I feel that if you are a Chef worthy of being on this show and you "short cut" with boxed mix (or pre-prepared food of any kind) you are undeserving. I am by no means a fan of Adriane on this show, but she at least made her own batter. The judges stated her, Sara's, chicken was better, but if she had to make her own batter, would that have impacted her chicken? Michelle had her mistakes as well, don't get me wrong, but it was all her own food and she maybe could have or should have rethought it given the time limit or other limitations. I really wanted to like Sara at first, her and Kelsey, but both have become irksome. Sara is pushy and bossy at times and Kelsey has an ego that makes her come off mean. Maybe that is why I liked Michelle so much, she was understated in her demeanor and still had skills. I wishshe had been more confident earlier on.
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Post by Kao on Feb 8, 2019 7:41:07 GMT
I am sorry, but I think Sara should have been sent home. I feel that if you are a Chef worthy of being on this show and you "short cut" with boxed mix (or pre-prepared food of any kind) you are undeserving. I am by no means a fan of Adriane on this show, but she at least made her own batter. The judges stated her, Sara's, chicken was better, but if she had to make her own batter, would that have impacted her chicken? Michelle had her mistakes as well, don't get me wrong, but it was all her own food and she maybe could have or should have rethought it given the time limit or other limitations. I really wanted to like Sara at first, her and Kelsey, but both have become irksome. Sara is pushy and bossy at times and Kelsey has an ego that makes her come off mean. Maybe that is why I liked Michelle so much, she was understated in her demeanor and still had skills. I wishshe had been more confident earlier on. Exactly. |
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Post by almostshamus on Feb 8, 2019 17:37:34 GMT
If it isn't against the rules, there is no reason someone should automatically be sent home for using something out of a box.
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Post by FireWoman on Feb 8, 2019 19:04:00 GMT
If it isn't against the rules, there is no reason someone should automatically be sent home for using something out of a box. There may not be a written rule in regards to it. But I do not think, and most especially this stage of the game, that sidestepping a chance to show your talent and make your own food is the best way to show you deserve to be in a cooking competition. For all her bellyaching that she was "heckled on the floor of Rupp, her home town, etc." that you would WANT to not present your own food. This is a cooking competition, not a preparation competition. I think it is akin to making a pie using caned pie filing and premade crust, or store brought sausage. Things that HAVE seen people sent home and even called out by judges for doing so. Furthermore, it isn't like it was a small component of her dish, it was HALF her dish. She only added water and cooked (for the most part) there was not science or skill involved.. and that half of her dish is why she didn't win her round. Heck was it even her that was pouring and cooking the element or was one of the helpers.. so yeah.. BIG fail in my mind for her on this one and then to get all crybaby about it. Sorry Sara, yeah you got called out.. it was your choice... suck it up buttercup and accept it. I won't even go on about her behaviour after being called out for something that no one else did this round and being nasty about it. |
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Post by Kao on Feb 8, 2019 22:13:02 GMT
I have to agree with Firewoman. A cook can prepare things from a box; a chef should not. And on a show like this using a boxed mix gives you an unfair advantage as far as time, prep, etc is concerned and shouldn't be allowed. The only time they should be used is if a challenge asks that you use that item in parrticular (which has happened in the past).
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Post by MFWalkoff on Feb 8, 2019 22:31:52 GMT
Chefs have used box mix before on the show, in fact they did so for a wedding cake in the very first season. I think it's not an automatic foul because it usually involves baking rather than cooking, which isn't something the chefs are required to be experts on for the show.
If they thought her chicken was better than Adrienne's, than I would guess that's reason enough for her to stay, since the chicken was the star of the dish. Michelle's ribs failed on more counts.
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Post by almostshamus on Feb 8, 2019 22:32:17 GMT
If it isn't against the rules, there is no reason someone should automatically be sent home for using something out of a box. There may not be a written rule in regards to it. But I do not think, and most especially this stage of the game, that sidestepping a chance to show your talent and make your own food is the best way to show you deserve to be in a cooking competition. For all her bellyaching that she was "heckled on the floor of Rupp, her home town, etc." that you would WANT to not present your own food. This is a cooking competition, not a preparation competition. I think it is akin to making a pie using caned pie filing and premade crust, or store brought sausage. Things that HAVE seen people sent home and even called out by judges for doing so. Furthermore, it isn't like it was a small component of her dish, it was HALF her dish. She only added water and cooked (for the most part) there was not science or skill involved.. and that half of her dish is why she didn't win her round. Heck was it even her that was pouring and cooking the element or was one of the helpers.. so yeah.. BIG fail in my mind for her on this one and then to get all crybaby about it. Sorry Sara, yeah you got called out.. it was your choice... suck it up buttercup and accept it. I won't even go on about her behaviour after being called out for something that no one else did this round and being nasty about it. The other contestants indicated that they were just fooling around so they weren't even that upset by it. They were just having a little horseplay. Waffle mix is such a basic ingredient that I do not see that her using it in any way detracted from her dish being her dish. I personally think that making chicken and waffles is a bad decision no matter how you go about doing it. Not a fan of them individually or in combination. |
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Post by almostshamus on Feb 8, 2019 22:34:15 GMT
Chefs have used box mix before on the show, in fact they did so for a wedding cake in the very first season. I think it's not an automatic foul because it usually involves baking rather than cooking, which isn't something the chefs are required to be experts on for the show. If they thought her chicken was better than Adrienne's, than I would guess that's reason enough for her to stay, since the chicken was the star of the dish. Michelle's ribs failed on more counts. Tom points out in LCK that there was basically nothing good he could say about those ribs. |
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Post by FireWoman on Feb 9, 2019 4:07:08 GMT
Yes, Tom did say that in LCK, but my point is that when you are this close to the final 4, why would you use box mix? I am not excusing her ribs, I even said that she should have rethought the choice. What if her ribs were perfect? I am sure then Sara would have been called out by the judges for the box mix and sent home, unless another messed up far worse.
As for the wedding cake, I can't say much as that is the one season I never really watched.. it was before I became a fan. But what I do know of it that whole challenge was a let down to the judges. It may not be a 'requirement' to make your own batter, but again, this stage why wouldn't you? Just because you CAN use box mix, should you? In season 1, they were called out for the use of a mix. I think it was a lazy way to complete any challenge. When you call something "Chicken and Waffles", they are both the star of the dish, the fact her waffles were not good made them secondary to the chicken. And like I said, would her having to take the time to mix up her own, from scratch, batter have impacted the chicken in the end? The fact that she turned in to a big baby at being called out for, to me, was icing on the cake.
I guess my argument is this, given the chance to make a dish for a set of 'chefs' do you present food that is not all your own?? Like Kao put it, and put it well, chef vs. cook.
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Post by almostshamus on Feb 9, 2019 21:24:08 GMT
They like dishes or they don't and judging has never been consistent over what is or is not an issue. This season they were incredulous over Brandon using Xanthan Gum and Marcel couldn't boil water without using the stuff during his season. IIRC, however, the box cake mixes use is in a few of the earlier seasons because they were doing a wedding challenges and they didn't want to totally mess up the couples' wedding cakes on their wedding days with none of them being particularly strong bakers. I don't think they were even judged on the cakes themselves but were forced to at least make an effort to have one.
Sara's reaction was a tad over the top, but I have read some accounts on reddit or somewhere of former contestants that leads me to believe that producers lean in on the judges to keep dramatic/irritating/colorful people in longer to make good TV, so that may be strategy on her part.
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Post by silver18 on Feb 10, 2019 6:14:16 GMT
She shpuld not have used a box mix but I think the white teams behaviour was very mean spirited and totally uncalled for...
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Post by acookertv on Feb 10, 2019 14:22:58 GMT
In different ways, the huge mistake both Sara and Michelle made was choosing to make dishes that didn’t fit n the timeframe they had. Making a great dish that requires more time than you have is a mistake and shows you don’t know how vital time is in cooking. Michelle readily admitted that making her ribs required a lot more time than she had, and she tried to short cut it by cooking them on higher heat / faster. It didn’t work. Sara wasn’t sure if she could make her dish taking the time to make waffles from scratch so she took a short cut. The comment was made that as a result her waffles were not as good, but her chicken was great.
Since Adrienne was able to get her dish made on time, Sara may have taken an unnecessary short cut. However, that shortcut allowed her to work through the unexpected snag of a fryer not working (I’m such and tired of the equipment failure issues this season!). Both deserved to be on the bottom due to the unwise choices they made in time needed vs time given. If half Sara’s dish was great and all of Michelle’s was bad, they probably sent home the right person.
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