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Post by Midol on May 16, 2019 3:43:15 GMT
The preview for Season 39 looks interesting. I like that the returning players aren't playing the game (hope it stays that way). I like both of them, too. So, hopefully it will be a fun season to watch. Did they say when it would start? I'm glad they aren't playing to win. They play a totally different game, so it should be interesting.. OMG...Sandra has never won a challenge. Her game is all strategy and social. Rob is a mix of everything. IMO you can't count on winning challenges so being able to read people and adjust your strategy accordingly tops pretty much everything.
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Post by justCoz on May 16, 2019 4:19:13 GMT
I'm glad they aren't playing to win. They play a totally different game, so it should be interesting.. OMG...Sandra has never won a challenge. Her game is all strategy and social. Rob is a mix of everything. IMO you can't count on winning challenges so being able to read people and adjust your strategy accordingly tops pretty much everything. Yes, Sandra can read people. It's her biggest strength. Rob has a big mixture of everything including belong able to do puzzles and balance like crazy, but he also can read people pretty good. I don't know how you teach someone else that. This was an unsatisfying winner, IMO. I think I'd feel differently about it if the EOE had reset after Devins came back and those originally voted off had left. Wow, I didn't realize that Gavin had never had a vote against him.
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Post by lizard on May 16, 2019 10:56:59 GMT
My recording cut off early. It is good to know Rick Devens got the Sia Award. It was very entertaining how he kept coming back.
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Post by pikachu on May 16, 2019 12:24:21 GMT
I was sad that Devens didn't make it to the end but felt Chris was a deserving winner. He did everything he needed to do to prove that he deserved the title. I would have been disappointed if Gavin had won over him. Gavin played a good game, just not as good as Chris. Shame on Devens for not voting for Chris in the final vote. I don't think he seriously thought Gavin played a better game than Chris.
I'd love it if the show could incorporate Devens in future seasons! I loved his little news segments during the game. I'd like to see more of those. If Jeff Probst ever stepped down as host, I think Devens would make a good host for Survivor! Not that I want Jeff to leave.
I thought this was a good season but I wouldn't want to see them continue the Edge of Extinction thing. Once was enough.
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 12:37:58 GMT
A few seasons ago, when Sia first showed up, I thought it was stupid. But now I'm glad she's a fan, because at least Devens gets something! Hooray for him. I was trying to picture if Joe had come back, and won, if I'd feel the same way (disappointed). But, it's probably more that Chris turned on Devens and lied, and that we didn't really know him much, that makes me dissatisfied that he is a winner. If Joe had won, I probably wouldn't have cared that he only played in the real game for a little bit, and had lots of time on EoE to make friends who'd vote for him. But, with Chris it's different, and I admit it. Not fair, but oh well. I liked Chris from the start. I was not happy when he was voted out, because I thought( from what I'd seen) he could of won. Yes he made friends on EOE, but I don't think that's why he won. He went up against Rick, he could of easily lost the fire making contest , he could of just sat with his last immunity necklace on. I thought it was a pretty ballsy move, and probably why I liked him from the start.. I'm sorry Rick didn't win but now it's over, I don't mind that Chris did. I'm happy that Sia awarded Rick with most entertaining, because he really was, He was genuinely surprised to get the award. The last few episodes made this season one of the most interesting. The creators always manage to keep it fresh enough that it doesn't seem like the same old show every time...( jmho)
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Post by Brooks on May 16, 2019 13:56:39 GMT
How utterly cool would it have been if everyone at TC was safe! What in the world would Jeff do? Still cool that everyone thought they were safe.
I don’t like that someone voted out so early could come back at the end and win it, but Chris absolutely did do all he could have done, and anyone could have come back from EOE. Since I don’t think either Gavin or Julie had any business winning I’m willing to accept Chris.
Chris had to go for broke. As both Julie and Gavin said, they didn’t want to be the one chosen not to do fire. The same reasoning applied to Chris and I believe is what put him over the top to earn him the win. So it wasn’t really that much of a gamble. Without it he had much less of an edge against Gavin or Julie, and no way he would have won without Rick gone.
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Post by sirmalcoth on May 16, 2019 14:37:52 GMT
I was sad that Devens didn't make it to the end but felt Chris was a deserving winner. He did everything he needed to do to prove that he deserved the title. I would have been disappointed if Gavin had won over him. Gavin played a good game, just not as good as Chris. Shame on Devens for not voting for Chris in the final vote. I don't think he seriously thought Gavin played a better game than Chris. I'd love it if the show could incorporate Devens in future seasons! I loved his little news segments during the game. I'd like to see more of those. If Jeff Probst ever stepped down as host, I think Devens would make a good host for Survivor! Not that I want Jeff to leave. I thought this was a good season but I wouldn't want to see them continue the Edge of Extinction thing. Once was enough. What? Huh?? "Gavin played a good game, just not as good as Chris" ???? Are you kidding me??? Chris was voted out on Day 9, (Final 16) came back at Final 6 and was given an idol by production. Gavin made it all the way to Day 39 without ever receiving a single vote against him. Chris is the worst winner in the history of any reality competition I have ever watched in my life. It's not Chris fault, and I don't fault the jury. I 100% fault production for coming up with this horrible twist, and producing the worst season of all time with the worst winner of all time.
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Post by sirmalcoth on May 16, 2019 14:47:26 GMT
I feel so bad for Gavin. He did everything that all winners from the past 37 seasons did, outwit outplay and outlast, all the way to 39 without a single vote against him
But the guy who gets voted out Day 9, gets not one but two changes to come back into the game from EOE,
Gets an idol handed to him, comes back knowing about Laurens, idol, and then has the audacity to tell the remaining players that Victoria was a jury threat to win. (Which is literally why she was voted out) Soooo unfair to her wow just wow!
This twist was so unfair to the players and to us as fans and I am extremely frustrated with production. If Edge of Extinction ever happens again on a future season i will NOT be watching.
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Post by pikachu on May 16, 2019 14:50:47 GMT
Just making it to the end of the game doesn't make someone a good player. Sometimes a person ends up there because every other contestant thinks they can beat them in the final vote.
I don't think Gavin took enough risks. If he gets to come back on Survivor someday, I hope he will take more risks, like Chris did in challenging Devens to make fire.
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Post by Brooks on May 16, 2019 14:57:23 GMT
If EOE happens again then players who follow the game will be aware of the pitfalls. It certainly turns the social game on its head.
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Post by sirmalcoth on May 16, 2019 14:57:46 GMT
Just making it to the end of the game doesn't make someone a good player. Sometimes a person ends up there because every other contestant thinks they can beat them in the final vote. I don't think Gavin took enough risks. If he gets to come back on Survivor someday, I hope he will take more risks, like Chris did in challenging Devens to make fire. He didn't just make it to the end Pikachu . Have you watched the episodes this season? Gavin was a part of the Aubry blindside he got a returning player out of the game with an idol, he also was a part of the blindside with Eric because in the long run he knew Eric and Ron were running things he stayed calm cool and collected and had great sportsmanship. Its not Gavins fault that production didn't give him a big edit like they gave Rick He stood up for himself when Wardog talked down on him, and got him out as well No one in their right mind will ever be able to convince me that someone voted out on Day 9, was given two chances to come back, was given an idol, played a better game than someone who outlasted 15 players and never got a vote cast against him at tribal council.
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 15:06:54 GMT
Just making it to the end of the game doesn't make someone a good player. Sometimes a person ends up there because every other contestant thinks they can beat them in the final vote. I don't think Gavin took enough risks. If he gets to come back on Survivor someday, I hope he will take more risks, like Chris did in challenging Devens to make fire. I don't need to see Gavin play again, he aligned with Ron..okay, I have nothing else. Nice kid, with the personality of a wet noodle.. With only people to watch, you have to give us something, he didn't deliver..full stop.
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 15:12:25 GMT
Just making it to the end of the game doesn't make someone a good player. Sometimes a person ends up there because every other contestant thinks they can beat them in the final vote. I don't think Gavin took enough risks. If he gets to come back on Survivor someday, I hope he will take more risks, like Chris did in challenging Devens to make fire. He didn't just make it to the end Pikachu . Have you watched the episodes this season? Gavin was a part of the Aubry blindside he got a returning player out of the game with an idol, he also was a part of the blindside with Eric because in the long run he knew Eric and Ron were running things he stayed calm cool and collected and had great sportsmanship. Its not Gavins fault that production didn't give him a big edit like they gave Rick He stood up for himself when Wardog talked down on him, and got him out as well No one in their right mind will ever be able to convince me that someone voted out on Day 9, was given two chances to come back, was given an idol, played a better game than someone who outlasted 15 players and never got a vote cast against him at tribal council. Victoria was a huge part of the Aubry blindside, she looked her right in the face. Gavin only turned on Ron when Ron spoke down to him Rick was part of the reason Chris went to Exile. They all did something..it's how they do it. I love a blindside, but as I said in another post, its a show, give us personality. Do you know how many times at TC , he said next go nothing? Flying under the radar is fine, flying too low, people totally forget you.
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Post by pikachu on May 16, 2019 15:14:51 GMT
Nevermind.
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Post by sirmalcoth on May 16, 2019 15:27:08 GMT
He didn't just make it to the end Pikachu . Have you watched the episodes this season? Gavin was a part of the Aubry blindside he got a returning player out of the game with an idol, he also was a part of the blindside with Eric because in the long run he knew Eric and Ron were running things he stayed calm cool and collected and had great sportsmanship. Its not Gavins fault that production didn't give him a big edit like they gave Rick He stood up for himself when Wardog talked down on him, and got him out as well No one in their right mind will ever be able to convince me that someone voted out on Day 9, was given two chances to come back, was given an idol, played a better game than someone who outlasted 15 players and never got a vote cast against him at tribal council. Victoria was a huge part of the Aubry blindside, she looked her right in the face. Gavin only turned on Ron when Ron spoke down to him Rick was part of the reason Chris went to Exile. They all did something..it's how they do it. I love a blindside, but as I said in another post, its a show, give us personality. Do you know how many times at TC , he said next go nothing? Flying under the radar is fine, flying too low, people totally forget you. Yes Victoria was a huge part of the Aubry blindside, and going into the finale she was the pearson I wanted to win, we just didn't get a big edit from players like Victoria and Gavin and thats why I am so frustrated because they both played so well but all the producers did was shove Rick Devans down our throats and the guy who played for 12 days in total is given a million dollar check Simply because the jury spent more time with him on EOE totally unfair
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 15:29:59 GMT
I see it differently Mal, agree to disagree. Until next season ( go team Boston Rob)..
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Post by sirmalcoth on May 16, 2019 15:30:22 GMT
I'm sorry if I came off too strong we all have our opinions As as Survivor Superfan this season just really upset me that's all. I love this show, I've seen all seasons I've podcast about it I even host Survivor games for over two years online so I get really worked up and express myself when I get frustrated about producers changing the game so much. I just want this show to go back to the basics.
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Post by Brooks on May 16, 2019 15:35:30 GMT
For a long time production shoved the returning players down our throat. For a long time all confessionals were either by a returning player or strictly about a returning player. That prevented us from following the new players as well as we might have.
There were many undecideds at FTC, which didn't surprise me. Did we see all of FTC, because we never see all of the other TCs, that can go on for a couple hours. So did Gavin make his case at FTC? Many deserving Final 3 lose because they can't make their case. Gavin is more eloquent than most Final 3 but maybe not enough.
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Post by Brooks on May 16, 2019 15:44:12 GMT
What really struck me about the episode was Chris' firemaking classes. He really had it nailed, and now everyone watching should know how to do it.
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Post by pikachu on May 16, 2019 16:02:58 GMT
Seriously! All contestants should practice their fire-making skills even before going on the show, and practice as often as they can around camp. Fire is essential to running their camp, obviously, but since it can also come up in a challenge they need to be prepared. They shouldn't wait until the night before the finale to start learning how to make a fire. By the time the show ends, they should all be experts on making fire.
BTW, I mentioned that a friend called at the beginning of Survivor. Another friend called later on and I didn't pick up, but then she left a lengthy message on my answering machine. Grrr! I guess next season I need to post on Facebook and call certain friends to let them know not to call me on finale night. Usually no one calls me but on a night when I don't want to be interrupted, everyone calls! Well, actually only two people, but both had a lot to say!
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 16:29:03 GMT
Seriously! All contestants should practice their fire-making skills even before going on the show, and practice as often as they can around camp. Fire is essential to running their camp, obviously, but since it can also come up in a challenge they need to be prepared. They shouldn't wait until the night before the finale to start learning how to make a fire. By the time the show ends, they should all be experts on making fire.
BTW, I mentioned that a friend called at the beginning of Survivor. Another friend called later on and I didn't pick up, but then she left a lengthy message on my answering machine. Grrr! I guess next season I need to post on Facebook and call certain friends to let them know not to call me on finale night. Usually no one calls me but on a night when I don't want to be interrupted, everyone calls! Well, actually only two people, but both had a lot to say! We mute our phones..
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Post by Cootie on May 16, 2019 16:31:17 GMT
OMG -- This was one of the best Survivor finales ever. Edge-of-my-seat exciting! Rick ran circles around the rest of them, and it was HILARIOUS watching him plant those fake idols. I never laughed so hard in my life. Rick SO deserved to win, but if he had to lose, I'm glad he lost to Chris. It was so good to see my eye-candy make it back into the game. Who could forget Chris'... um.... 'stingray?' What a bold and risky move to forfeit his immunity necklace, and go to fire alongside Devins. I can't believe Lauren played her idol on Chris!!! What was she thinking?!?! Congratulations on the win to Chris!!! And congratulations to Rick for being gifted the Sia award. I'm with you, Joseph. I thought this was an exciting finish! And the twist of Edge of Extinction made it that way. I know lots of others didn't like it but as it played out, it was fun to watch. I also liked that Chris made the fire challenge be him vs. Devens. That way he'd have to earn his spot in the final three. And so would have Rick. Rick seemed to take it in stride admitting that Chris promised to take him to Final Four and he stuck with his word. I'm glad that Rick got the $100,000 award as well.
I'm looking forward to next season already!
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Post by allysense on May 16, 2019 19:33:29 GMT
Now I know why Survivor 38 is titled the "Edge of Extinction." The returnees gets an edge in bonding with the jury members, info on the players currently in the game, time to refresh and reenergize oneself, and it doesn't hurt that you get one-half of an hidden immunity idol when you get back in. If they bring back this twist again, future players should take note and vote out the returnees as soon as possible because they come back with renew vigor and inspired gameplay as we witness this season.
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Post by Arielflies on May 16, 2019 21:25:09 GMT
I'm happy both David and Cochran are writing for a CBS show, Star Trek (???) I think it is on All Access.
While the last four episodes I wanted Rick to win (he made me laugh with his moves) Chris won Fire fair and square and his last minute maneuver may have won him more votes than Gavin.
Thank you Sia for your award - happy it went to the scrambler who also entertained.
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Post by JosephD on May 16, 2019 21:34:30 GMT
I'm kind of surprised so many viewers didn't care for the Edge of Extinction twist. I'm equally surprised I liked it. I'm usually focused more on the athleticism and endurance during the physical challenges, than I am the social aspects of this game. I would have guessed that viewers who favor networking, bonding and camaraderie over who can run the fastest, last the longest, reach the farthest -- would have LOVED the Edge of Extinction twist. Apparently not. To me, Edge of Extinction makes a player have to work smarter to connect. It's heavily dependent upon social engineering while virtually non-existent on anything physical. Yes, you catch a fish every once in awhile but other than that, you're doing nothing. Just sitting. Sitting and waiting while your unused muscles turn to mush.
In a regular season of Survivor when you can vote somebody off and they're no longer a threat, you don't have to think as strategically as when Edge of Extinction is itching to blow up your hard fought game. When you're deciding who to vote off and you have to worry that someone you've wronged might get back in the game and seek revenge, or you have to consider that they might blab to the other Edge of Extinction castaways about your hidden immunity idol, or you know that even though they're being voted off first, that they're immediately on the jury and that you may need their vote someday....well, all those variables should affect how you make your moves.
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Post by JosephD on May 16, 2019 21:43:05 GMT
What!?!? No mention of Joe cutting his hair!??!? No pictures, even?!?!? I thought the Joe fans would have been all over that story.
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Post by pikachu on May 16, 2019 22:17:10 GMT
Did he actually cut it? I saw where Jeff jokingly suggested he do it but didn't notice during the reunion if he did it.
I was expecting him to show up on some future season looking like Mr. Clean. LOL!
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Post by FannyMare on May 16, 2019 22:27:20 GMT
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Post by sunnydayz on May 16, 2019 23:39:43 GMT
I'll be curious to see if future contestants noticeably try harder to be "entertaining," with the Sia award in mind.
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