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Post by Navybelle on Aug 8, 2019 0:40:57 GMT
I'm just getting a chance to watch last night's show, and that conversation between Blake and Caelyn has me in tears feeling sad for both of them. I don't think it's a spoiler to say that Blake posted on Instagram last night defending himself and even posted some text messages between him and Caelyn that he's since taken down but are out there if people want to see them. (People Magazine has an online article about it.) It's clear that they have very different understandings of what happened and their conversations afterward. I believe that he was genuinely shocked to hear that she was feeling the way she was. I'm not excusing (and neither is he) the unwise behavior of sleeping with two different girls from the franchise on two consecutive nights. That was stupid and it sucks for the women. I'm guessing that he said at some point that it was a mistake to have done that and that Caelyn interpreted that as saying that sleeping with her specifically was a mistake, when he was just saying that the timing of it was a mistake, which is a different thing. It seems like both Kristina and Caelyn were saying that they were OK with casual sex when they really still had feelings of wanting an actual relationship, and Blake believed them because it was just casual sex for him. (Also, he's a guy and not real good at picking up on the subtleties like a woman going silent when he said something and expecting him to know how to interpret that.) Again, I'm not saying it was a wise choice to have sex with these two women back-to-back. I'm just saying that there seems to be a lot of miscommunication here based differing expectations and interpretations of both what happened and the conversations afterwards. (And I'm kind of with Blake in wondering why Kristina would wait till it was televised to call him out on what happened. There has been plenty of time since Stagecoach, and it sounds like they've had conversations where things seemed fairly OK, and then she waits to talk to him in Paradise? It's a bit strange.) I just feel bad for all of them. They're making dumb decisions and living way too far inside of the Bachelor bubble and deciding to save private conversations for television. Just UGH!!! I'm just sad for Kristina, Caelyn, and Blake (and probably most of the other people there). They have so much going for them, but they seem to be so insecure and needing a lot of external validation. All of them are using each other to get that validation, and it just makes them feel worse. Tragic for everyone. Well said, Miss_Griss! I think you hit a lot of it right on the head. Each one of them has some ownership of the mess we've seen on the 1st two episodes. I didn't know Blake took down the posts of her texts; but I'm glad he did. Even though they're still out there, his action is a step in the right direction. I'm done with him on this show and hope he doesn't stick around long on Paradise, but I think he'll learn a lot from this and do better in the future. Hopefully!
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 8, 2019 2:50:36 GMT
I just hope Hannah stays away from Blake. It's all very dramatic, with lots of tears( real and fake) but he( Blake) can leave any time jmho Yeah. I'm guessing that Hannah can see he's not a good person to get involved with if she's really looking for something long-term. I don't think he's looking for a long term relationship, he wants the next pretty girl that comes along. He's not alone on this show...lots of them just want to hook up. Caelynn is a hot mess, reading her texts, the girl still needs therapy.
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Post by Critical on Aug 8, 2019 4:30:47 GMT
While I DO think Caelynn is twisting things, I don't think Blake is blameless. Maybe he wasn't technically in a relationship with any of those women, but how dense is he to not realize how uncool and, well, sleazy it is to hook up with two different women on consecutive nights? Clean sheets, indeed. It's not unfamiliar behavior for guys who get thrown into this situation - I mean, public attention and then women suddenly being much more interested. We saw it with Bob, who was Mr. Sweet Personality on Trista's season and then morphed into Mr. Swingle, sleeping with likely three or four women on his season and probably kissing ALL of the women on his season. It's not normal for most men, no matter how good looking they are, to have that much focused female attention. Blake's very young and (at least semi-) dumb about women. Just because he wasn't "officially" dating any of those women (why do I keep hearing Ross whining, "We were on a break!"?), it still isn't a good look to hook up with multiple women in that short a time span. Like it or not, he's now a public figure, and people on SM are going to clock him out with women and report it to Bachelor Nation. I like Hannah G and I think she's got a better head on her shoulders than Blake deserves at this point. Plus, she and Dylan are so cute together. I always liked Wills, but his pursuit of Hannah was creeping me out a bit. Really, the first few episodes of BiP always creep me out. It feels like a giant shark tank with Fleiss & Co. chumming the water. Poor Bibi. I wish she'd find a nice guy in the real world instead of coming on these shows and crying. She's worth more than that. Yeah, and Reality Steve has spoiled the whole season and I read it all! I have more fun watching when I already know what happens.
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 8, 2019 5:38:56 GMT
I hope we aren't supposed to feel sorry, for flat head, Blake. I think he's an @ss. Hannah, wake up girl. I'm really tired of Demi, already! Her monologues aren't amusing, and her voice. She's easily manipulated by tptb . I like Clay and Nicole, I'm sure someone will come along to wreck that. Man, two shows, no rose ceremony..I don't know if this show is worth four hours a week Bibiana, go home! LOL at the bolded part. I've always called him Triangle Head. Add the flat head & pointed chin & you've got a triangle. I've never understood what anyone sees in him. I don't find him at all attractive looking, and his personality isn't any better. He's a whiner who starts crying like a spoiled kid anytime anything isn't all about him. I also hated the way, on Becca's season, that he was always TELLING her how SHE felt. Not how he felt, or asking her how she felt. Very narcissistic. Now with the garbage that's come out about him & women, I dislike him even moreso. I'm not saying Caelynn is entirely innocent in this, but there's clearly more that he's not telling. How about texts, phone calls, or hookups before those texts took place? How about any conveniently edited out texts, phone calls, etc.? Clearly there was a history there of some sort. Plus, no mention or indication of Hannah until right before filming for BIP started. What did he say to Caelynn about keeping quiet right after their hookup? I think there was a lot conveniently left out of his "expose". I don't trust that slimebag, or anything he says, a bit. Phoney baloney, that's what he is. I also like Clay a lot. I always did. I was glad to see him on this show. Very attractive, soft spoken, and so far seemingly a nice guy. Now he's someone I wouldn't mind seeing as The Bachelor. At least so far.
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 8, 2019 7:41:18 GMT
Depending on how Clay comes off in Paradise, he could well be a candidate for bachelor, MissScarlet! I think Chris Harrison even mentioned that as a possibility in an interview he did with Lauren Zima last week in their pre-Paradise interview.
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Post by Critical on Aug 9, 2019 0:41:17 GMT
I like Clay, but I also think he's a bit bland. I honestly don't care if the person they choose is the nicest and sweetest or even if they end up getting engaged. I want someone with personality who can actually form coherent sentences that aren't peppered with "awesome," "journey" and all the rest of the usual Bach franchise NON words. God, have an IQ over 100 and be able to express your feelings! Deliver me from Farmer Chris and his Beavis and Butthead laugh or Dolton and his 4th grade vocabulary! If all someone brings to the table is looks, then they should just put out a calendar and be done with it. I don't want to watch a season of that nonsense.
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 9, 2019 3:06:12 GMT
100% agree Critical ! Regarding Blake, I finally finished watching the episode tonight, and I'm feeling less sorry for him than I did immediately after his conversation with Caelyn. He really is a whiner, and all of his regrets seem to be about how his douchery is affecting him rather than how he's caused pain to others. Pretty self-involved! And then watching him sweet-talk Hannah. Man, he really is a player. And the fact that he checked in with Tayshia to see if she was still interested before approaching Hannah like he was all in.... Slimy!!! Watching Caelyn pretend to be interested in Cam just to get a rose was gross, too. I felt sad for him getting played like that and being so excited. Girl has ice in her veins. She didn't have to come on so strong to get his rose.
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