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Post by JustJuls on Sept 9, 2019 6:06:56 GMT
It's Wine-Thirty in the BB house.
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Post by Gutmutter on Sept 9, 2019 9:41:34 GMT
I know Tommy told Jackson (and Holly?) about Christy and him having a connection, but they haven’t told Nicole and Cliff. Why not?
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Post by JosephD on Sept 9, 2019 10:59:21 GMT
I know Tommy told Jackson (and Holly?) about Christy and him having a connection, but they haven’t told Nicole and Cliff. Why not? Because neither one's on the block. Yet. Once Holly goes up, they'll use that information to try and save her. If Tommy's smart, he'll swear on all there is to swear on that it's a lie. If he's smart, he'll accuse them of playing a low-life dirty game, of kicking him when he's down, of trying to get revenge for the early season accusation that Kat knows Holly. If Tommy's smart, he'll swear on his mama and Christie's sister and all there is to swear on....but we all know he'll admit it's true.
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Post by Gutmutter on Sept 9, 2019 14:40:53 GMT
But he already told Jackson himself. Some people think Cliff heard it on the loudspeaker over the wall, but I don’t think he heard it clearly or dismissed it if he did as unreliable. I think it’s valuable info for Nicole to know.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 9, 2019 15:01:49 GMT
I know Tommy told Jackson (and Holly?) about Christy and him having a connection, but they haven’t told Nicole and Cliff. Why not? I think Tommy still thinks of Cliff and Nicole as the bottom feeders, that just telling Jolly, he's still hanging on to the cool kids club.. I found him whiny last night.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 9, 2019 15:04:41 GMT
We can't discount at this point in the game how much isolation and paranoia are playing with their minds. It seems to me that at this point, we usually throw up our hands in disbelief at some of the stupid things they do not thinking - because none of us have been so isolated for so long. I don't think Tommy understands how vulnerable he made himself revealing that info. I don't think Jackson and Holly understand how valuable the info is. And if Cliff were told and Tommy denied it, I could totally believe that he'd question it thinking Tommy could have just decided to go with the "fake" story from the loudspeaker.
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Post by vanillalatte on Sept 9, 2019 15:49:56 GMT
What on earth is wrong with these idiots? They're actually considering saving Tommy? Are they mad? Breaking up a "couple" is what to do in the first half of the show. At this point it's counter productive. At the beginning a couple always vote together & are pretty sure to be 2 votes you can't get. But at this point they should be thinking of Jury Management. A couple still in the house isn't the least bit dangerous. All houseguests are out for themselves & vote how they want. But having a couple in the house will keep a guaranteed jury vote off the table. If Holly is still in the house, then Jackson gets 1 less guaranteed jury vote, and one less person campaigning for him. If she's in the jury house, then Jackson gets one more guaranteed vote & campaigner. Don't these idiots see this? That plus the fact that sneaky phony Tommy owns the jury & needs to be out of the house ASAP. He could beat any of them. These dopes just aren't using their heads. Holly in the house is a non problem. No one respects her game, and it's not an advantage for Jackson. Dumb, dumb, dumb. Actually, the way I see it, having a power couple like Holly and Jackson in the house this late in the game is incredibly dangerous. There are only 2 seats on finale night, so managing jury votes means nothing if you're not one of the final two. If I'm Nicole, I have to know that my trip the final 2 runs right through Jackson, and he beats any of them on finale night. So he must go. The last real chance to get him out is next week because you do NOT want Jackson competing in that multi-part final HOH. The only way you can guarantee to get a shot at Jackson, is by keeping Tommy and getting rid of Holly this week. Jackson can't play this week's HOH, so he will go up for sure, but nominations mean very little at final 4. It's all about the veto. Keeping Holly, means you have the Holly/Jackson combo fighting to keep each other off the block or keeping each other from going home. No matter how many scenarios I run, chances are high that either Jackson or both Holly and Jackson stay if they keep Holly this week. If they get rid of Holly and keep Tommy, there's a much bigger chance that Jackson does not win Veto next week and goes home. Again, if I'm Nico le, I'm building my resume...my HOH got Christie out last week, my Veto can get Holly out this week. Then i just needs to concentrate on getting Jackson out next week and I've suddenly got a great argument why I deserve to win.
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Post by jeff4ever on Sept 9, 2019 16:47:24 GMT
Vanillalatte, you sumned up the situation precisely! You truly see the big picture. I could not agree with you more. This is Nicole's ONLY way to a possible victory. Jackson will beat ANYONE if he's sitting in one of those seats on Finale Night!
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 9, 2019 17:56:53 GMT
Nicole will do what's best for her game. I have faith.
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Post by JosephD on Sept 9, 2019 21:14:41 GMT
Actually, the way I see it, having a power couple like Holly and Jackson in the house this late in the game is incredibly dangerous. There are only 2 seats on finale night, so managing jury votes means nothing if you're not one of the final two. If I'm Nicole, I have to know that my trip the final 2 runs right through Jackson, and he beats any of them on finale night. So he must go. The last real chance to get him out is next week because you do NOT want Jackson competing in that multi-part final HOH. The only way you can guarantee to get a shot at Jackson, is by keeping Tommy and getting rid of Holly this week. Jackson can't play this week's HOH, so he will go up for sure, but nominations mean very little at final 4. It's all about the veto. Keeping Holly, means you have the Holly/Jackson combo fighting to keep each other off the block or keeping each other from going home. No matter how many scenarios I run, chances are high that either Jackson or both Holly and Jackson stay if they keep Holly this week. If they get rid of Holly and keep Tommy, there's a much bigger chance that Jackson does not win Veto next week and goes home. Again, if I'm Nico le, I'm building my resume...my HOH got Christie out last week, my Veto can get Holly out this week. Then i just needs to concentrate on getting Jackson out next week and I've suddenly got a great argument why I deserve to win. Yeah, buddy! That's almost exactly what I said yesterday. I love when someone's post shows they're thinking strategically.
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