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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 3:39:13 GMT
I notice when Cliff was talking to Holly, he told her Nicole was the one wanting her out. Said he would keep Holly, but Nicole and him would talk it over and vote the same way. Is that true as far as we know? I don't have the feeds , only read here, but I thought it was Nicole that came up with the idea. It was Nicole’s idea. She stayed up all night one night alone in HoH, thinking pros and cons of getting rid of Holly instead of Tommy. After she told us what she wanted, she said she needed to convince Cliff. He heard her pros and cons and agreed to stick with what she wanted. Before they could tell Jackson, Jackson and Holly another endless fight and Jackson told Cliff and Nicole to vote Holly out.. Cliff is not lying, but he is throwing Nicole under the bus!
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Post by carolinamom on Sept 12, 2019 4:01:22 GMT
Is that true as far as we know? I don't have the feeds , only read here, but I thought it was Nicole that came up with the idea. It was Nicole’s idea. She stayed up all night one night alone in HoH, thinking pros and cons of getting rid of Holly instead of Tommy. After she told us what she wanted, she said she needed to convince Cliff. He heard her pros and cons and agreed to stick with what she wanted. Before they could tell Jackson, Jackson and Holly another endless fight and Jackson told Cliff and Nicole to vote Holly out.. Cliff is not lying, but he is throwing Nicole under the bus! That was the point I was trying to make. I know Cliff wants to win BB like everyone else. So I guess he has to use the bus, when he can. I hope this is the right decision for both of them. I wish Cliff would just make a stand on a decision one time and not always follow. Thanks Mikesgirl!
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 12, 2019 4:05:51 GMT
Is that true as far as we know? I don't have the feeds , only read here, but I thought it was Nicole that came up with the idea. It was Nicole’s idea. She stayed up all night one night alone in HoH, thinking pros and cons of getting rid of Holly instead of Tommy. After she told us what she wanted, she said she needed to convince Cliff. He heard her pros and cons and agreed to stick with what she wanted. Before they could tell Jackson, Jackson and Holly another endless fight and Jackson told Cliff and Nicole to vote Holly out..Cliff is not lying, but he is throwing Nicole under the bus! Looks like Jackson is ready, to throw Holly, under that same bus..lol!
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:11:10 GMT
Cliff is clear in evicting Holly, he is just making it seem like “if it were up to him, he would keep Holly” .....to Holly’s face. With Nicole a short time ago he said they have a better chance with Holly gone. They both (N/C ) want to make F3. If they evict Holly, they think they have a better chance. Cliff is not conflicted over this, but he pretending to be to secure Holly’s vote should he make it to F2.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 12, 2019 4:12:15 GMT
Is that true as far as we know? I don't have the feeds , only read here, but I thought it was Nicole that came up with the idea. It was Nicole’s idea. She stayed up all night one night alone in HoH, thinking pros and cons of getting rid of Holly instead of Tommy. After she told us what she wanted, she said she needed to convince Cliff. He heard her pros and cons and agreed to stick with what she wanted. Before they could tell Jackson, Jackson and Holly another endless fight and Jackson told Cliff and Nicole to vote Holly out.. Cliff is not lying, but he is throwing Nicole under the bus! The only person that is going to care is Holly. The jury is going to be very happy with Nicole
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:15:09 GMT
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:16:14 GMT
Oh you poor thing.....
Holly and Tommy talking about them both not wanting to go to jury. Holly doesnt want to deal with the drama of it
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:16:53 GMT
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:18:22 GMT
Cliff is really intent on securing jury votes, (I'm not happy with the way he is doing it) but it is part of BB, so
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Post by Mikesgirl on Sept 12, 2019 4:22:41 GMT
Every season, my favorite people are evicted, and I scramble to find new favorite people. This entire season, I was sure Nicole and Cliff would be picked off, and week after week they have managed to stay. I am thrilled they will make F4, and I hope they both make F3.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:04:06 GMT
Well things have taken a turn. After talking with Jackson Nicole is confused more than ever. Her and Cliff have been discussing keeping Holly now. Cliff seems to want to keep her but knows Nicole doesn't. But he will do what she wants. She isn't so sure anymore. They are kind of spinning now. They are worried the jury won't respect them if they go back on their word. Both Holly and Jackson said they would throw the comp and take one of them. For some reason they kind of believe this. Which I find ridiculous. Who the hell would throw a comp at this point. Tommy came to chat with them. They asked if he had a final 4 with sis holly and Christie. He said yes but it hadn't been talked about for a while. This made them question how much they can trust Holly. He said I am a number to help you get out Jackson next then we are final 3 which is what they want. He would never pick Jackson over them. He is a huge threat that needs to be taken out.
Cliff heads to bathroom so they can move to RV and talk more about what to do.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:35:36 GMT
Jackson just lied to Nicole and Cliff that Tommy told him that he would do anything to keep Jackson if Holly is booted and that he would get Cliff out next. Jackson had overheard Tommy saying he would throw the HOH so he is using that info for the lie. Nicole got pissed and said then we need a house meeting. Jackson got nervous and said I don't want a blow up tonight. Nicole leaves pissed. Jackson runs to tell Holly what just happened to catch her up.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:46:18 GMT
Nicole and Cliff in RV. She is venting that she is annoyed that this is all making her feel dumb. She is mad she didn't know about first and four alliance. She is pissed that they are saying that they can all win against her. She is not stupid she is smart.
Jackson says to himself this might just work or it might just blow up in my face. I dont really know.
Jackson tells Holly that he had to throw Tommy under the bus to give her a fighting chance.
Cliff says they don't know if Jackson is telling the truth but her reaction now has them rattled. Let them spend the night worried if this is going to ruin their game.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:47:00 GMT
The fact that Jackson didn't want a house meeting tonight should have e been obvious he was lying.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:50:31 GMT
Now the paranoia is kicking in. They are questioning everything Tommy told them. Cliff said maybe they should say screw it and send Tommy gome and just try to win these next comps.
Tommy could have said one thing to Jackson and he is spinning it. Maybe they should all hash it out.
Nicole's gut is saying Tommy is the liar. Cliff feels it too. But Cliff says Jackson is smart.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 8:57:31 GMT
Jackson's lie has got Nicole going nuts in her head. Damn it.
They are going to confront this all tomorrow. They figure Tommy will deny it. But how else did Tommy get that info and know all the details. (Jackson listened at the door)
They say there has to be some truth to it.
Cliff now keeps checking to see if anyone is listening at the door. Little to late for that Holly already listened in a few minutes ago and told Jackson what they were talking about.
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Post by cupidguest on Sept 12, 2019 8:59:19 GMT
Keep Tommy!!
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 9:03:51 GMT
The damage is done already. It would be stupid at this point to keep Holly. All trust is gone now.
They need to keep Tommy because they are all on the same page of getting Jackson out. Then they are exactly where they want to be if Jackson doesn't win veto. Final 3.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 9:04:41 GMT
Cliff has now gone to wake up Tommy.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 9:12:46 GMT
Cliff didn't say much to Tommy. Just let him know they all need to speak tomorrow. Tommy told him that Holly told him he wanted gin to win BB Comics.
Jackson saw all this on the camera so he follows Cliff downstairs to do some more damage control.
Cliff telling him Nicole is fed up. But she isn't mad at Jackson. Just the info. Cliff said they will talk in the morning. He is going to go speak with Nicole.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 9:17:04 GMT
Cliff: The things you learn when people get panicky.
Cliff telling Nicole everything that happened with Tommy and Jackson watching the camera and trying to talk to him. Then Holly coming back down trying to talk to him. Then Tommy coming downstairs.
They are discussing the discussion tomorrow about finding out who is lying.
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Post by Girly18 on Sept 12, 2019 9:24:40 GMT
Jackson and Holly upstairs. Jackson saying if they want to be snakes and go back on their word after swearing after veto Holly doesn't even need to pack her bags. Then he can play dirty. He will try anything to keep Holly. He's never wanted to play dirty like this but they have given him no choice.
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Post by Ellabella on Sept 12, 2019 15:02:36 GMT
Wow ! I go to bed early and chaos brakes out in the BB house.
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Post by susanr342 on Sept 12, 2019 16:43:19 GMT
Wow ! I go to bed early and chaos brakes out in the BB house. Same thing always happens to me.
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Post by JustJuls on Sept 12, 2019 17:49:04 GMT
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