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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 3:10:57 GMT
I'm sad to see Kate go, but the competition is tough this year. Aside from Sean, she probably was next in line, no? Or an I forgetting someone? No, not forgetting anyone. I think Kate is a better dancer than Sean, but he has the voters. I'm not sure how long they can prop Ally up , who I actually really enjoy, I love Sasha as well
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 3:21:36 GMT
I'm sad to see Kate go, but the competition is tough this year. Aside from Sean, she probably was next in line, no? Or an I forgetting someone? No, not forgetting anyone. I think Kate is a better dancer than Sean, but he has the voters. I'm not sure how long they can prop Ally up , who I actually really enjoy, I love Sasha as well People need to start voting for Ally. She has high scores, but she just doesn't have the voters. 😪 When you say "prop her up", do you think they are slightly inflating her scores to try to keep her in?
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Post by Navybelle on Nov 5, 2019 3:22:17 GMT
In case anyone's curious about what's going on (i.e. making this political):
I think it's ridiculous and immature, and I'm not being political about it. They think it's funny to get the fans going, to ruin the show, because they're assuming we're all hated liberals. As if what they're doing even matters for anything. If they get Sean to win, so what? If he doesn't, so what? They get to giggle about ruining a stupid TV show, for no reason except to get the fans all riled up. Many were calling for Sean to step down and be classy about this, but his tweets suggest he's also enjoying "sticking it to 'em" and thinks it's amusing.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 3:28:38 GMT
In case anyone's curious about what's going on (i.e. making this political): I think it's ridiculous and immature, and I'm not being political about it. They think it's funny to get the fans going, to ruin the show, because they're assuming we're all hated liberals. As if what they're doing even matters for anything. If they get Sean to win, so what? If he doesn't, so what? They get to giggle about ruining a stupid TV show, for no reason except to get the fans all riled up. Many were calling for Sean to step down and be classy about this, but his tweets suggest he's also enjoying "sticking it to 'em" and thinks it's amusing. Trevor Noah did a hilarious segment about these tweets last week and about how silly it was to think liberals were losing sleep at the thought of "Spicy" winning the mirror ball. I'll see if I can find it.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 3:50:03 GMT
In case anyone's curious about what's going on (i.e. making this political): I think it's ridiculous and immature, and I'm not being political about it. They think it's funny to get the fans going, to ruin the show, because they're assuming we're all hated liberals. As if what they're doing even matters for anything. If they get Sean to win, so what? If he doesn't, so what? They get to giggle about ruining a stupid TV show, for no reason except to get the fans all riled up. Many were calling for Sean to step down and be classy about this, but his tweets suggest he's also enjoying "sticking it to 'em" and thinks it's amusing. I totally blame the show, as if they didn't have a clue this would happen. I love how each week, they say, this shouldn't be the bottom two, umm really? Then you're dumber, than you all look and really bad actors
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Post by MFWalkoff on Nov 5, 2019 3:56:43 GMT
Also, when you have this happen for you around the same time every week, yeah you're going to stay longer than you should.
Can't even have a silly little escapist dancing show... politics has to piss on that too. ABC, stop casting political figures. Just stop.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 4:10:17 GMT
Also, when you have this happen for you around the same time every week, yeah you're going to stay longer than you should. Can't even have a silly little escapist dancing show... politics has to piss on that too. ABC, stop casting political figures. Just stop. I'd be on board with that no political figures from either side.
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Post by zookeepertex on Nov 5, 2019 4:18:39 GMT
I’m embarrassed for Sean. He is so bad. He’s turned this into a political race which is the last thing it should be. Shame on him and shame on the people voting for him. I haven't seen HIM putting any political spin on this. And when he was called safe tonight he looked shocked and actually, a little sad/disappointed.
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Post by zookeepertex on Nov 5, 2019 4:28:22 GMT
I totally blame the show, as if they didn't have a clue this would happen. I love how each week, they say, this shouldn't be the bottom two really? Then you're dumber, than you all look.
I completely agree! I don't see HOW they concocted this "voting" method, leaving out at least half the country, and didn't think it was gonna bite them in the . Worst idea ever!!
I can't help but think the producers KNEW this would happen and are simply going for crappy drama.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 5:21:32 GMT
I’m embarrassed for Sean. He is so bad. He’s turned this into a political race which is the last thing it should be. Shame on him and shame on the people voting for him. I haven't seen HIM putting any political spin on this. And when he was called safe tonight he looked shocked and actually, a little sad/disappointed. I have seen things he did early on to put both a political and religious spin on things, but he hasn't said anything recently that I know of. I agree that he did look a little shaken when they announced he was safe tonight. I'm guessing he's gotten close with the rest of the cast and feels guilty seeing others going home when he knows it's his turn. Sadly, once that "make a point" train gets rolling, is a hard thing to stop, even if you're ready to get off.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 5:25:27 GMT
I totally blame the show, as if they didn't have a clue this would happen. I love how each week, they say, this shouldn't be the bottom two really? Then you're dumber, than you all look.
I completely agree! I don't see HOW they concocted this "voting" method, leaving out at least half the country, and didn't think it was gonna bite them in the . Worst idea ever!!
I can't help but think the producers KNEW this would happen and are simply going for crappy drama. They are zoo, that's why , when Sean has danced, I tune everything about him out. I look at James, Ally etc those I really enjoy. If DWTS is pretending like this isn't a replica of last season, then they've lost me as a viewer. I don't care Trump is tweeting, it doesn't matter in the end, because I have my winner chosen already, no matter who has hands on the tacky trophy, at the end.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 5:30:02 GMT
No, not forgetting anyone. I think Kate is a better dancer than Sean, but he has the voters. I'm not sure how long they can prop Ally up , who I actually really enjoy, I love Sasha as well People need to start voting for Ally. She has high scores, but she just doesn't have the voters. 😪 When you say "prop her up", do you think they are slightly inflating her scores to try to keep her in? No, sorry. I think she totally earns her scores I meant she's been in the bottom two twice now. If I could vote( that's a bloody joke ) half the US can't vote, I'd vote for Ally.
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Post by MissGriss on Nov 5, 2019 5:36:41 GMT
People need to start voting for Ally. She has high scores, but she just doesn't have the voters. 😪 When you say "prop her up", do you think they are slightly inflating her scores to try to keep her in? No, sorry. I think she totally earns her scores I meant she's been in the bottom two twice now. If I could vote( that's a bloody joke ) half the US can't vote, I'd vote for Ally. Got it! You're in Canada, right? I'm on the western side of the US, but I just read how people did here and then cast votes for them before actually seeing the dances. I've been giving Ally 10 votes reach week ever since she improved so greatly the second week.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 6:20:47 GMT
No, sorry. I think she totally earns her scores I meant she's been in the bottom two twice now. If I could vote( that's a bloody joke ) half the US can't vote, I'd vote for Ally. Got it! You're in Canada, right? I'm on the western side of the US, but I just read how people did here and then cast votes for them before actually seeing the dances. I've been giving Ally 10 votes reach week ever since she improved so greatly the second week. I am , yes. They no longer let us vote. I'm not sure if I could vote before I watched, I'd even bother. How do I know what they danced like..kwim? Anyway, I'm still hoping James win, but, he has competition..
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Post by ibot2much on Nov 5, 2019 15:04:42 GMT
Do you really think that DWTS is upset about all the publicity the show is getting....and therefore will be much more careful about their contestants in the future? Really, you think so?
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Post by acookertv on Nov 5, 2019 15:18:25 GMT
Do you really think that DWTS is upset about all the publicity the show is getting....and therefore will be much more careful about their contestants in the future? Really, you think so? I don't. DWTS was in need of a face lift, and Sean Spicer has been a vital part of that working. I think that many casual viewers of the show were forgetting it. With the addition of American Idol to the ABC schedule and the reduced frequency for DWTS, it stopped being the event TV that it had been when it started. Couple with that casting of too many stars that make people say "whose that" and it was struggling. With the addition of Spicer, the show is being chattered about on talk shows again. I've watched more this season than I have the past couple of seasons in part because when I hear it being discussed on other shows, I want to know what is happening. I think the reality is that ever since ABC reduced the nights for DWTS to one, they've struggled with the format for voting. There's no good way to do it - it doesn't work to apply votes from last week as they don't always align with dances from this week. When they do what they are doing now and compress the voting to during the show, they exclude half the country. I think the only way to get back to meaningful viewer voting would be to go back to a results show on Tuesday night in some form. They could do it as a 1/2 hour show to run in tandem with one of their sitcoms. They could even do it as a 4 minute vignette going from the 8pm sitcom to the 8:30 sitcom. It does not need to be a full hour extravaganza - people see dancing the night before, they just want to know who was ousted. All that said -- when they talk about viewers voting, they talk about voting for favorites, not the best dancers. The advantage that someone like Sean has, is that a lot of the people voting for him are going to be loyal to him no matter what. People voting for many of the others may be split - a fan of popular music may split votes between Ally and Lauren. A person who votes on improvement may be split between Kate and Kel. Sean has loyalty in his voters, and that's a big advantage. And yes, he's got old White House pals campaigning for him ... but other past contestants including housewives who've danced and sports stars who've danced have had that edge too. At the end of the day, ABC cares more about viewers than it does figuring out who the best amateur dancer is. People like Sean who bring interest to the show will always be appealing because he's doing what they need him to do - publicize the show.
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Post by Gutmutter on Nov 5, 2019 16:21:12 GMT
I’m embarrassed for Sean. He is so bad. He’s turned this into a political race which is the last thing it should be. Shame on him and shame on the people voting for him. I haven't seen HIM putting any political spin on this. And when he was called safe tonight he looked shocked and actually, a little sad/disappointed. m.youtube.com/watch?v=UW24yps3Ti4At the 4:35 minute mark he’s telling people how and when to vote the most whether they watch the show or not, and leading up to that (3 minute mark) are clips of him very much making it political and religious.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 16:32:17 GMT
I miss the really good pros,so I'm glad I saw this show years ago, when it was a true race to the mirror ball, and Fort would go on overload, with so many watching results..lol It's a shell of its former self, and I'm not bothered if it gets canceled or if it stays..
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Post by Gutmutter on Nov 5, 2019 16:40:46 GMT
Yeah, I’m done. There are so many other choices of things to watch. I don’t need to support this.
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Post by The Mod Team on Nov 5, 2019 21:29:33 GMT
A few posts were just deleted. Please aim your fire at the show, not each other.
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Post by FannyMare on Nov 5, 2019 22:09:01 GMT
Yeah, I’m done. There are so many other choices of things to watch. I don’t need to support this. Could you record it , Gut? then FF through Dancers and Judges alike? If I don't watch live, with other posters, I do that..I just love dancing..
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Post by Gutmutter on Nov 5, 2019 23:03:28 GMT
I can watch specific ones I like on YouTube.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Nov 5, 2019 23:44:42 GMT
Same here. I don't think ABC or DWTS cares about the dancers, they care about money and ratings. At this point, the only way Sean won't make final 3 is if he injures himself (which I do not wish for), or if they decide to stop fan voting. If he is in F3, then I really hope they do not allow fans to vote. It should be live and Judges should decide based on F3 performances. I may not always agree with the judges, but I trust them to make a halfway decent choice in awarding the MB. I remember the good ole days of DWTS and miss them, but it is easier not watching the show (except for youtube videos of just a few), then to be taping the show, which contributes to Nielsen ratings.
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Post by sunnydayz on Nov 6, 2019 0:09:40 GMT
Call me an ostrich with my head in the sand, but I pretty much ignore news these days, especially if it's at all political....so I don't know much about Sean Spicer. There's a few other contestants on this season that I previously knew nothing about, as well as, a few that I'm a little familiar with.
I'm not sure if it's because I'm unfamiliar with most of the contestants or because I'm just not connecting with them and their "stories", but the season as a whole seems a snooze fest. Count me as another that doesn't really care if I miss an episode or not.
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Post by zookeepertex on Nov 6, 2019 3:01:48 GMT
A long time ago, I had mentioned what I think might be a reasonable vote-counting method.
Rinse and repeat...
It wouldn't even be that hard to keep track of; even I could create a spreadsheet to do it!
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Post by MissScarlet on Nov 6, 2019 6:48:12 GMT
As far as the show caring about making this fair, they showed their true colors when they set it up so that the west coast has to either vote blind, or not vote at all. They don't give a darn about fairness at all. In fact, ignoring the west coast is insulting to those viewers/voters. Who the heck came up with that anyhow? And why?
I don't know why people are worried about Sean winning this thing. Ultimately the only way he can win is if the Judges vote for him to win. This is the way the process is set up. The judges can't pick the bottom 2 each week, but they choose who stays. That way thy are eventually picking the winner. Sooner or later Sean will be in the bottom 2, even if it's in the last possible week. Then the Judges will decide. They pick who will win. Not the voters. There can only be one winning team. When the others go home doesn't really matter in the end.
I agree that Sean shouldn't win this thing, but all in all I don't mind him being there a bit. He's learning, paying attention to the critiques, working hard, and being upbeat and having fun with it all. Isn't that the point of this? He seems like a nice guy & has a better attitude than many of the others. I'm not getting that "all about me" attitude from him at all. All in all he's enjoyable to watch.
Personally I'm not going to get put out by him being there week to week. Only if the Judges give him the win. And that is entirely their decision. In the end the voters votes don't matter at all.
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Post by ibot2much on Nov 6, 2019 12:44:59 GMT
Do you think they are gong to have the judges pick right to the end?? They probably don't know what they are going to do snce they seem to be running this by the seat of their pants, making it up as they go along....but I can't see them actually selecting between two or three at the end.
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Post by Mikesgirl on Nov 6, 2019 19:12:14 GMT
I have a question on the new rules, if anyone can answer this for me, I would appreciate it. If judges can save one couple in bottom two each week, and Sean is highest in popularity votes each week, does that mean that when they reach final three, he can stay and one of the better dancing couples will be eliminated at third? Because he has highest in popularity votes? If he survives because he is never in bottom two with popularity scores, does that mean he can also win the popularity contest at final two? Judges won’t have the sole right to pick between final two do they? Do new rules still allow for popularity vote at final two?
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