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Post by MFWalkoff on Dec 6, 2019 1:28:34 GMT
Blast Off - The 18th competition begins with some twists right out of the airport gate. The designers must create a look inspired by humanity's continued push into space exploration. In a first, these designers have to pair up and collaborate on their pieces.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by Kao on Dec 6, 2019 4:38:43 GMT
Holy crap at that ending! They aren't playing around this season, that's for sure.
Also, I can already predict Sergio is going to be a pain in the [redacted].
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Post by MFWalkoff on Dec 6, 2019 4:57:05 GMT
Ouch - that was a harsh double elimination. I can't say I disagree with it, but still - OUCH!
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Post by justmythoughts on Dec 6, 2019 8:45:16 GMT
Should be an interesting show in the coming weeks. A double elimination at the start, but truthfully..... well deserved. At the start Geoffrey seemed to be disorganized in his thoughts and all over the place, but he created something really interesting and well made. Good for him.
But already the egos are blossoming. From the get-go, some of these designers are so overly impressed with themselves. Last season there were quite a few that acted as though, the quirkier they behaved the more creative they appeared. And such constant drama. This season will be no different.
I guess I am looking back at season 1, 2 and 3 where you had really talented sewers with great ideas, all whom never had the chance to show their talents. And most of them were humble about it all. But that appears to be the trend nowadays in ALL forms of creativity and entertainment; huge egos for no apparent reason.
On to episode 2.........
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Post by betty80 on Dec 6, 2019 14:11:12 GMT
The two bottom designs were bad. I didn't like Sergio's sleeves. I agree that some of the egos are already showing. It looked like the runway was a bit brighter than it was last season. The judges were also more quiet during the runway shows than last season. I liked that.
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Post by tilden on Dec 6, 2019 14:23:15 GMT
While I agree that there was plenty of reason to eliminate both the designers who were eliminated, after they both gave their final thoughts, I kind of wished Jenn might have been given a second chance. She recognized that she hadn't shown her best work, and she owned up to her mistakes. Asma, on the other hand, immediately threw shade at Jenn--and she wasn't in any position to do that, given how poorly designed her garment was and how she complained about having to work with cotton. I also couldn't believe she'd never worked with cotton before and claimed she never would again. Good heavens, it's not like it's an uncommon fabric. Most home sewers have dealt with cotton. I was glad she was told that as a designer, she should know and understand fabrics.
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Post by babbred on Dec 6, 2019 17:01:28 GMT
While I agree that there was plenty of reason to eliminate both the designers who were eliminated, after they both gave their final thoughts, I kind of wished Jenn might have been given a second chance. She recognized that she hadn't shown her best work, and she owned up to her mistakes. Asma, on the other hand, immediately threw shade at Jenn--and she wasn't in any position to do that, given how poorly designed her garment was and how she complained about having to work with cotton. I also couldn't believe she'd never worked with cotton before and claimed she never would again. Good heavens, it's not like it's an uncommon fabric. Most home sewers have dealt with cotton. I was glad she was told that as a designer, she should know and understand fabrics.
I guess Asma will never make any of her modest designs here down South. Where I live it gets hot in spring/summer, so cotton is a very common fabric used for clothing. It's a shame. I'm a high school teacher, and one of my students is a Muslim girl. She wears the headscarf and flowy gowns like Asma, and she's always fashionably dressed. She chooses beautiful fabrics/colors for her clothing. She dresses better than me. There is definitely a market for this type of women's clothing. Back on the old PR they had a modest designer once. She made it pretty far into the competition. I could be wrong, but she either made it into the final or was eliminated just before it.
Oh, yes. The egos. "I've already designed for X celebrity and just need more exposure." I don't like those designers. I kind of miss the old days, too, when the designers were humble and grateful for the opportunity to be on this show. Remember Austin Scarlett? Chris March? Sigh. (Of course not all of them were humble. Just thinking of Jeffry again makes me ill. And who was that guy who cheated, got thrown off, and tried to justify himself in the media?)
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Post by Kao on Dec 6, 2019 18:48:30 GMT
While I agree that there was plenty of reason to eliminate both the designers who were eliminated, after they both gave their final thoughts, I kind of wished Jenn might have been given a second chance. She recognized that she hadn't shown her best work, and she owned up to her mistakes. Asma, on the other hand, immediately threw shade at Jenn--and she wasn't in any position to do that, given how poorly designed her garment was and how she complained about having to work with cotton. I also couldn't believe she'd never worked with cotton before and claimed she never would again. Good heavens, it's not like it's an uncommon fabric. Most home sewers have dealt with cotton. I was glad she was told that as a designer, she should know and understand fabrics.
I guess Asma will never make any of her modest designs here down South. Where I live it gets hot in spring/summer, so cotton is a very common fabric used for clothing. It's a shame. I'm a high school teacher, and one of my students is a Muslim girl. She wears the headscarf and flowy gowns like Asma, and she's always fashionably dressed. She chooses beautiful fabrics/colors for her clothing. She dresses better than me. There is definitely a market for this type of women's clothing. Back on the old PR they had a modest designer once. She made it pretty far into the competition. I could be wrong, but she either made it into the final or was eliminated just before it.
Oh, yes. The egos. "I've already designed for X celebrity and just need more exposure." I don't like those designers. I kind of miss the old days, too, when the designers were humble and grateful for the opportunity to be on this show. Remember Austin Scarlett? Chris March? Sigh. (Of course not all of them were humble. Just thinking of Jeffry again makes me ill. And who was that guy who cheated, got thrown off, and tried to justify himself in the media?) That was Ayana. She made beautiful clothes and made it to the finale. As I said in another post, there's a HUGE market for modest clothing, and not just for Muslims...you also have have Mormon, certain Jewish and Christian denominations, etc. I think the twist (working together as a team) threw both of these designers for a loop, but that's fashion; so much work in that field is a cooperative process; you have to work well with others and you have to quickly know what ideas to take on, what to discard, and what to blend together. I felt bad for both of them because I felt like they were going home for work that wasn't truly "them" but how do you not know how to work with cotton?
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Post by babbred on Dec 6, 2019 23:39:07 GMT
I guess Asma will never make any of her modest designs here down South. Where I live it gets hot in spring/summer, so cotton is a very common fabric used for clothing. It's a shame. I'm a high school teacher, and one of my students is a Muslim girl. She wears the headscarf and flowy gowns like Asma, and she's always fashionably dressed. She chooses beautiful fabrics/colors for her clothing. She dresses better than me. There is definitely a market for this type of women's clothing. Back on the old PR they had a modest designer once. She made it pretty far into the competition. I could be wrong, but she either made it into the final or was eliminated just before it.
Oh, yes. The egos. "I've already designed for X celebrity and just need more exposure." I don't like those designers. I kind of miss the old days, too, when the designers were humble and grateful for the opportunity to be on this show. Remember Austin Scarlett? Chris March? Sigh. (Of course not all of them were humble. Just thinking of Jeffry again makes me ill. And who was that guy who cheated, got thrown off, and tried to justify himself in the media?) That was Ayana. She made beautiful clothes and made it to the finale. As I said in another post, there's a HUGE market for modest clothing, and not just for Muslims...you also have have Mormon, certain Jewish and Christian denominations, etc. I think the twist (working together as a team) threw both of these designers for a loop, but that's fashion; so much work in that field is a cooperative process; you have to work well with others and you have to quickly know what ideas to take on, what to discard, and what to blend together. I felt bad for both of them because I felt like they were going home for work that wasn't truly "them" but how do you not know how to work with cotton?
Thanks for filling in Ayana's name. I was so hoping she would win that season.
At first I felt sorry for Asma and Jenn but now, I don't know. PR has been on for nearly twenty years now. Surely they've seen some past seasons? You should know that they're going to knock you for a loop with some challenge. This happened earlier than in the past, but they had to have known it was coming. And they most definitely should have known a team challenge was coming. And who was that designer who lost his fabric but still managed to knock out a decent design? Geesh. Asma had two days and a ton of fabric, and that's all she could do? No excuses.
And yes, the myth of the lone genius fashion designer is just that, a myth. Especially in today's world where everything is global and collaborative.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 7, 2019 0:14:41 GMT
"I live in New York but I'm nervous in Mood." I think that statement (paraphrased) by a designer who looked to be falling apart and yet pulled out a design that was in the top four shows how one can overcome and shrug off nerves. What I found disheartening was the young "Sherpa" who was too frazzled to pick up his fabric at Mood and tried to make that an excuse for a possible bad design to Christian (who gave him a side-eye). "I love a twirl." Christian was more teacher than mentor or at least a mentor who practically told the designers what they needed for the runway. He has grown more into the role this season. I love the older woman and her perspective. When she burned out at corporate, she asked what her 20 something self would want to do and went for it. I think, so far, I like this cast. Oh, I'll have to check that Bravo really is selling the winning design on their website. Remember the JC Penney debacle last year? ETA: It's not that simple. We vote on their Instagram page then the winner(s) are for sale at the end of the show. www.bravotv.com/project-runway/shop-the-looksThe future of fashion is in your hands! You can purchase the winning looks from Bravo’s Project Runway right after the episode airs. And be sure to vote for your favorite runway outfits on @projectrunwaybravo’s Instagram story polls. The winning fan favorite looks will also be available to purchase at the end of the season. All products will be made sustainably, on-demand in the USA and delivered to your door in 6 weeks after the end of the pre-sale. Shop the winning looks for Episodes 1, 2, 6, and 10 immediately following the episodes.
nineteenthamendment.com/pages/project-runwayThe winner of the first show is up on nineteenth amendment's PR page.
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Post by Kao on Dec 7, 2019 1:21:26 GMT
I'm rooting so hard for Nancy. You should always be learning new things at all ages; she is an inspiration.
I saw the clothes on Instagram and voted that way.
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 7, 2019 1:34:35 GMT
Agreed, as someone who went back to school at a later age...I adore her! She is truly an inspiration.
I was really loving Alan, if I had left my fabric at Mood, I'd be freaking.
And I was all for the Asma, and I actually didn't mind her look at first, but then up close...yeah, I saw it. And saying that she will never design in cotton...nope. Are you kidding me?
So happy this show is back. I miss the kindness of Tim Gun, I wish there was a counter-balance to some of the ego/snarkiness. But maybe these designers need the Christian type of mentoring. I mean these egos are just out of control.
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Post by woodiedog on Dec 7, 2019 12:37:02 GMT
Oh I am disappointed so far. The cast seems big on ego, small on talent. Personality trumps skill. Did they pick the top fashion designers or did they pick designers who were all about the drama.
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Post by babbred on Dec 7, 2019 16:58:29 GMT
Agreed, as someone who went back to school at a later age...I adore her! She is truly an inspiration.
I was really loving Alan, if I had left my fabric at Mood, I'd be freaking. And I was all for the Asma, and I actually didn't mind her look at first, but then up close...yeah, I saw it. And saying that she will never design in cotton...nope. Are you kidding me? So happy this show is back. I miss the kindness of Tim Gun, I wish there was a counter-balance to some of the ego/snarkiness. But maybe these designers need the Christian type of mentoring. I mean these egos are just out of control. Totally! I'm a woman who is (cough, cough) a tad bit on the older side. I'm currently going back to school, hoping to transition to something else in life just like Nancy. I will root for her as long as she lasts on this show.
Who was that designer a few seasons ago who also left her fabric at Mood? She literally had to go around and beg for the scraps of fabric that other designers had left over, and yet she still managed to knock out the winning design for that episode. So yeah, no excuses for Asma or Jenn.
Who was Sergio's partner? Aren't they both from Texas like Brandon? I seem to remember Brandon giving a cheer when he learned that. I'm from Texas, too, so I understand his happiness. I must say, though, that I wish Sergio would check the Texas-sized attitude. He's just heading for a fall, probably after Christian warns him he's about to send a disaster down the runway and he sends it, anyway.
Liked the guy who donned the lab coat since he was inspired by Paris couturiers. If you want to be the best, you should study and learn from the best. Little things like that give you a psychological boost and challenge you to step up your game.
Loved the winning looks and the runner-up pantsuit.
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Post by betty80 on Dec 7, 2019 18:28:21 GMT
I think Asma added too many things to her look. The look could be conservative and still not have all of those pieces. I feel like we didn't get an introduction to all of the designers. Maybe I missed it.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Dec 7, 2019 20:29:40 GMT
Who was that designer a few seasons ago who also left her fabric at Mood? She literally had to go around and beg for the scraps of fabric that other designers had left over, and yet she still managed to knock out the winning design for that episode. So yeah, no excuses for Asma or Jenn. I forget who that was from a few years ago. I do remember Kenley from season 5 left her tulle fabric at Mood during the last challenge before the finale. Tim let her go back to Mood to collect it. I guess it was different for Alan because he didn't actually buy the fabric.
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Post by Kao on Dec 7, 2019 20:55:55 GMT
Agreed, as someone who went back to school at a later age...I adore her! She is truly an inspiration.
I was really loving Alan, if I had left my fabric at Mood, I'd be freaking. And I was all for the Asma, and I actually didn't mind her look at first, but then up close...yeah, I saw it. And saying that she will never design in cotton...nope. Are you kidding me? So happy this show is back. I miss the kindness of Tim Gun, I wish there was a counter-balance to some of the ego/snarkiness. But maybe these designers need the Christian type of mentoring. I mean these egos are just out of control. Totally! I'm a woman who is (cough, cough) a tad bit on the older side. I'm currently going back to school, hoping to transition to something else in life just like Nancy. I will root for her as long as she lasts on this show.
Who was that designer a few seasons ago who also left her fabric at Mood? She literally had to go around and beg for the scraps of fabric that other designers had left over, and yet she still managed to knock out the winning design for that episode. So yeah, no excuses for Asma or Jenn.
Who was Sergio's partner? Aren't they both from Texas like Brandon? I seem to remember Brandon giving a cheer when he learned that. I'm from Texas, too, so I understand his happiness. I must say, though, that I wish Sergio would check the Texas-sized attitude. He's just heading for a fall, probably after Christian warns him he's about to send a disaster down the runway and he sends it, anyway.
Liked the guy who donned the lab coat since he was inspired by Paris couturiers. If you want to be the best, you should study and learn from the best. Little things like that give you a psychological boost and challenge you to step up your game.
Loved the winning looks and the runner-up pantsuit.
As someone who went back to school while in my 40s to get my Masters I'm extremely proud of both of you. I think we are going to see more of this in the future.
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Post by JosephD on Dec 7, 2019 20:58:16 GMT
I love that we can go to the PR website and see an upclose still shot of each garment. It's nice to get a better look at each outfit than what we can see on the show when the camera keeps switching from the runway, to the judges' commenting, back to the runway, to the contestant's reaction to the judges comments, back to the runway...etc.
Brittany's garment was my favorite. Melanie and Victoria's garments were the least appealing to me.
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Post by Cootie on Dec 7, 2019 21:46:23 GMT
I just got caught up with the first episode. I don't have cable so can't watch when it first airs. Fortunately, Bravo replays the episode for general viewing and I read it's also on Hulu but I haven't confirmed that. I think they picked the right two teams for the bottom two. And the women that were eliminated were the right two in my opinion. Jenn's reaction to own her mistakes really impressed me and it made me want to see more of what she could do. Asma not so much. She was too quick to blame others for her problems. The judges were right to let her know (I think it was Michael Kors?) that as a designer she should know about fabric. I plan to watch the episode again as I didn't get to absorb the looks well enough and can't seem to find still shots of all of them, but one look I loved was Chelsea Carter’s jumpsuit. I loved the fit in the back particularly and the cut of the leg. I'm not a huge fan of the tummy opening but overall it was beautiful.
JosephD for some reason I can't find those still pictures on the Bravo site. Can you point out where I should look? I only find stills from season 17.
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Post by JosephD on Dec 7, 2019 22:47:44 GMT
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Post by Cootie on Dec 8, 2019 1:30:24 GMT
Thanks, I can't believe I missed them! A few that I didn't like much were Victoria Cocieru's short white dress & Tyler Neasloney's jumpsuit with the red stripes. Delvin McCray's short white dress was a little too transparent in the skirt, yikes!
I was impressed by Veronica Sheaffer's long white jumpsuit, Nancy Volpe-Beringer's sheer black dress and Marquise Foster's black jumpsuit.
I'm looking forward to seeing what Melanie Trygg comes up with in future episodes. I wasn't that impressed with the brown drapey dress this week but am intrigued by the minimalistic design approach.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 8, 2019 3:30:53 GMT
I just got caught up with the first episode. I don't have cable so can't watch when it first airs. Fortunately, Bravo replays the episode for general viewing and I read it's also on Hulu but I haven't confirmed that. I think they picked the right two teams for the bottom two. And the women that were eliminated were the right two in my opinion. Jenn's reaction to own her mistakes really impressed me and it made me want to see more of what she could do. Asma not so much. She was too quick to blame others for her problems. The judges were right to let her know (I think it was Michael Kors?) that as a designer she should know about fabric. I plan to watch the episode again as I didn't get to absorb the looks well enough and can't seem to find still shots of all of them, but one look I loved was Chelsea Carter’s jumpsuit. I loved the fit in the back particularly and the cut of the leg. I'm not a huge fan of the tummy opening but overall it was beautiful.
JosephD for some reason I can't find those still pictures on the Bravo site. Can you point out where I should look? I only find stills from season 17. Cootie - where do you watch Bravo shows when you don't have cable? I'll check out Hulu when I can, but I'm curious because BravoGo through Roku requires you have the cable channel Thanks.
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Post by Cootie on Dec 8, 2019 4:11:39 GMT
Cootie - where do you watch Bravo shows when you don't have cable? I'll check out Hulu when I can, but I'm curious because BravoGo through Roku requires you have the cable channel Thanks. I watched episode 1 today on Bravo.com on my computer. No cable account required.
I just looked up the Hulu episode list and only see seasons 8-16 on there so I don't think it's available on Hulu? There's also a channel on YouTube that you can find that full episode. Here's the link for that one.
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Post by Arielflies on Dec 8, 2019 4:50:16 GMT
Thanks. That will help in the future. I think I should be able to watch Top Chef in the same way, I hope.
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Post by JosephD on Dec 8, 2019 13:04:14 GMT
Just a quick clarification.... Project Runway is on Hulu Live. That's where I watch it. I don't believe it's on basic Hulu. If you don't mind waiting a little longer to watch the show or if you're looking to save some money, then yes, Bravo.com is a good alternative. Live streaming's convienient, but they can nickle & dime you to death.
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Post by photobabe on Dec 8, 2019 17:49:47 GMT
I watch Project Runway on Sling. I didn't have the chance to watch it live streaming on Thursday so I watched it today. When they got to the bottom 2 I yelled at the scream "Get rid of both of them". I guess they heard me, because that's what they did. I don't think the team concept was the reason for either of their poor designs. Their designs we neither cohesive nor tasteful nor well executed.
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Post by amber on Dec 11, 2019 20:22:52 GMT
Love Project Runway back on Bravo. Not sure I will love the "Siriano Save" as I was not much of a fan of the "Tim Gunn Save"...
I'm still not missing Heidi or Tim Gunn much at all, although, I still, upon occasion, missing Michael Kors and somewhat certain that if Nina was off the show I'd miss her.
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Post by ibot2much on Dec 13, 2019 15:20:54 GMT
I got to this party late----just saw the first episode last night. Surprised to see that Nina is now EIC of ELLE...I thought that last year she was still Creative Director at Marie Claire.
The orange thing was hideous with too much stuff hanging off it. It wasn't modest---it was ugly.
I did not think that her partner's black jump suit was as bad so I was surprised that they sent both of them packing.
I do love Christian-----he really is getting less Tim Gunn and more himself with his comments.
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Post by justCoz on Dec 21, 2019 5:08:33 GMT
Just now catching up on the show. I was surprised but not at all disappointed that they sent both of the bottom two packing. I also liked the winning look. I loved when Christian told the designer, who was sitting back doing nothing in the last part, that he could rip the garment apart right then! I thought the designer's ego could stand to be taken down a peg, and Christian obliged!
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 23, 2019 23:43:09 GMT
While I agree that there was plenty of reason to eliminate both the designers who were eliminated, after they both gave their final thoughts, I kind of wished Jenn might have been given a second chance. She recognized that she hadn't shown her best work, and she owned up to her mistakes. Asma, on the other hand, immediately threw shade at Jenn--and she wasn't in any position to do that, given how poorly designed her garment was and how she complained about having to work with cotton. I also couldn't believe she'd never worked with cotton before and claimed she never would again. Good heavens, it's not like it's an uncommon fabric. Most home sewers have dealt with cotton. I was glad she was told that as a designer, she should know and understand fabrics. I guess Asma will never make any of her modest designs here down South. Where I live it gets hot in spring/summer, so cotton is a very common fabric used for clothing. It's a shame. I'm a high school teacher, and one of my students is a Muslim girl. She wears the headscarf and flowy gowns like Asma, and she's always fashionably dressed. She chooses beautiful fabrics/colors for her clothing. She dresses better than me. There is definitely a market for this type of women's clothing. Back on the old PR they had a modest designer once. She made it pretty far into the competition. I could be wrong, but she either made it into the final or was eliminated just before it.Oh, yes. The egos. "I've already designed for X celebrity and just need more exposure." I don't like those designers. I kind of miss the old days, too, when the designers were humble and grateful for the opportunity to be on this show. Remember Austin Scarlett? Chris March? Sigh. (Of course not all of them were humble. Just thinking of Jeffry again makes me ill. And who was that guy who cheated, got thrown off, and tried to justify himself in the media?) Yes. It was season 16, I think! (But it might have been 15). She made it to the finals and had a very good show at fashion week. I just watched that season on demand, and it was fun to cheer for her, since she's a local woman from Salt Lake.
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