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Post by waywyrd on Dec 12, 2019 0:36:01 GMT
Just Go for It - The fourteenth castaway is voted out and joins the jury, on the penultimate episode of Survivor.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by atwi80d on Dec 12, 2019 1:26:50 GMT
Janet just do not at all use your idol and hope that Tommy will tell her not to use it. Really if Tommy is in an alliance with Janet.
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Post by photobabe on Dec 12, 2019 2:02:02 GMT
What the heck happened? Dan must have gotten "handsy" with a producer or other crew member!
So, Elaine voted off and Dan banned!
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Post by brycola on Dec 12, 2019 2:07:26 GMT
What the hell is wrong with Dan? He tried so hard to make everyone think it was a misunderstanding, then he gets handsy with the crew??? His family has to be SO embarrassed! He's gonna regret for the rest of his life being on Survivor and letting the world see what he's like.
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Post by atwi80d on Dec 12, 2019 2:09:55 GMT
How good is that of in the Dean having the nullifying thing until five people are down?!
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Post by photobabe on Dec 12, 2019 2:14:10 GMT
Up until tonight, I was giving Dan the benefit of the doubt because only Kelee seemed bothered by his actions. For him to be thrown off the show completely makes me believe he must have behaved pretty badly to someone who was deeply offended. At least this gives Janet some vindication.
Now it becomes clear as to why they spent so much time, earlier in the season, on Dan's inappropriate behavior. It was all leading up to this.
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Post by Gutmutter on Dec 12, 2019 2:26:38 GMT
Good! It bothered me that he was never considered for elimination after all that.
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Post by holly on Dec 12, 2019 2:36:41 GMT
Poor Elaine! I wanted her in the final TC.
Dan...what an arrogant idiot. I’m sure he will not be allowed at the reunion, & will be a persona non grata among Survivor alumni.
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Post by FireWoman on Dec 12, 2019 3:01:35 GMT
Looks like they are going to pre-tape the reunion show because of Dan's ejection and actions (as well as security concerns). This may also mean we will have a leak as to the winner before it airs.. interesting to say the least.
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Post by badseed on Dec 12, 2019 3:26:39 GMT
I loved Elaine, but I called it way back in Week 1, her demise would come simply by a majority of people wanting her gone, and her not being able to wriggle out of it. Also, DING SONG THE WITCH IS DEAD. I knew he couldn't keep his hands to himself. I'm stoked that they came to a resolution where Dan lost the game, but Kellee didn't have to be with him at Ponderosa. See ya never Dan!
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Post by Punkin on Dec 12, 2019 3:40:29 GMT
Do we know exactly what Dan did? Was he kicked out before or after eviction? How much was explained to the cast? I'm still 20 minutes out from airing on the west coast. TYIA!
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Post by maybaybie on Dec 12, 2019 3:56:57 GMT
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 12, 2019 4:08:58 GMT
This is what I found. That timing really stinks. Elaine should have been spared!
What makes me mad is that when it affected contestants, they considered it "game" and how it would affect their game. But then when the crew is involved, it was taken more seriously? Dan should have been out a LOT earlier.
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Post by badseed on Dec 12, 2019 4:17:43 GMT
They were probably hoping Dan would get voted out on his own and they'd be off the hook to do anything. The timing of his removal just happened to be the last chance to exclude him from the season finale, and that’d be a real big coincidence if it was one.
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Post by Cootie on Dec 12, 2019 4:29:34 GMT
I'm sad about Elaine being evicted, especially with the Dan situation, but am now watching the episode thoroughly spoiled from the west coast. Dean is turning into a competitor!
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2019 4:34:45 GMT
Sometimes you don't see what's right under your nose. Dan was probably flirting / touching female staff, he's a compulsive. Ugh! I cried over Elaine, both Rob and Sandra really liked her, but the more she talked, I knew the people at TC saw her as a huge, huge threat, I hope she gets to play again..I liked her from day one, as I did Janet.Elaine is my fan favorite. Boy, the F4, who will they be? I see Tommy winning this..jmho.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2019 4:58:49 GMT
I'm sad about Elaine being evicted, especially with the Dan situation, but am now watching the episode thoroughly spoiled from the west coast. Dean is turning into a competitor! Is he though, honestly , I often forgot him. He'd make a lousy winner, but he is working that jury..
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Post by Navybelle on Dec 12, 2019 5:00:11 GMT
Once Elaine was crying and pouring her heart out at tribal, I knew she was toast. They could clearly see how the jury would love her, empathize with her. and how good she would be at telling her story. If she wasn't already likeable enough to vote off, that moving moment was enough to convince them. But I really like Elaine and wish she'd gone further! I dislike Dean, and thought it was funny how Boston Rob was making fun of him flexing.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2019 5:56:45 GMT
Once Elaine was crying and pouring her heart out at tribal, I knew she was toast. They could clearly see how the jury would love her, empathize with her. and how good she would be at telling her story. If she wasn't already likeable enough to vote off, that moving moment was enough to convince them. But I really like Elaine and wish she'd gone further! I dislike Dean, and thought it was funny how Boston Rob was making fun of him flexing. Yes, Rob pointing that out, made us both laugh..
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Post by Brooks on Dec 12, 2019 10:15:54 GMT
I'll bet part of the privacy issue is just concerns about a slander suit. Really too bad it was not caught on camera. So production was willing to throw Dan under the bus during the earlier episodes, because of this. And in a similar way was willing to expose Karishma's marital problems because they had such a happy ending (although I hope her husband is ok with all of it!)
The finale is next week. So based on the numbers, didn't they need to get down to 5 players? Or did Dan's leaving mean we're short one episode?
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Post by mayamaisha on Dec 12, 2019 12:46:11 GMT
So glad Dan got kicked off. I think it should have been when his behavior was exposed. He’s a 🤬 perp.
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Post by Brooks on Dec 12, 2019 13:44:38 GMT
So glad Dan got kicked off. I think it should have been when his behavior was exposed. He’s a 🤬 perp. I think it's a better story this way. It shows how unredeemable he was.
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Post by photobabe on Dec 12, 2019 14:41:00 GMT
My guess is, the reason for the delay in giving Dan the boot and allowing him to be at tribal was legal. There were probably a lot of frantic phone calls between the staff on Figi and the show's attorneys in LA. The attorneys would have read and reread the contracts signed by the players to be certain they were on solid legal ground. When a big prize is on the line, a lawsuit against the show is likely. Survivor needed to protect itself against a messy and expensive trial or settlement.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 12, 2019 14:49:06 GMT
My guess is, the reason for the delay in giving Dan the boot and allowing him to be at tribal was legal. There were probably a lot of frantic phone calls between the staff on Figi and the show's attorneys in LA. The attorneys would have read and reread the contracts signed by the players to be certain they were on solid legal ground. When a big prize is on the line, a lawsuit against the show is likely. Survivor needed to protect itself against a messy and expensive trial or settlement. But we dont know, when Dan was offensive. It could of been after TC.
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Post by sunnydayz on Dec 12, 2019 14:55:19 GMT
Although next to no details have been given so far, it has been reported that the incident happened after an immunity challenge as Dan and other contestants were getting into a boat to transport them back to the camp.
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Post by sirmalcoth on Dec 12, 2019 15:46:04 GMT
Ok I'll start off with the positive and say I'm glad we have a 5 person finale, so things won't feel so rushed.
Knew Dean was going to the island of the idols, they have made sure the same person never went there more than once. The flip a coin thing was a joke. I enjoyed the Nullifer in David vs Goliath because Carl got it at Final 16 and Dan was voted out in 11th place, it worked well in that season and that situation. But the fact that Janet found an idol and will most likely be voted out in 5th place with it because Boston Rob flipped a coin really bothers me.
I enjoyed Elaine overall throughout the season but I knew she was going to be voted out tonight, her downfall was keeping Tommy over Missy, that move alone really got her nowhere in the long run because Tommy cut her loose so fast. Jeff kinda ruined her chances to stay in the game too because he made her get so emotional at tribal asking her so many questions, like once you saw her talk about mom and her tears there was no way anyone was keeping her at that point.
When Jeff started walking back to camp I was so confused like at first i thought the Rob and Sandra reveal was gonna happen right then and there, but no, Dan is finally removed from the game after ANOTHER incident that did not involve a player. And apparently the Reunion show will be taped 4 hours before so we wont be watching that live. Though I am very glad that Dan was finally removed from the game this should have happened much sooner, when it happened to a production member they take action, what about Kellee? Was she not good enough for action to be taken then? I'm so glad that creep Dan wont be anywhere near her at Ponderosa
Production and Jeff Probst were totally unprepared for this situation and it was handled so horribly they HAVE to do better than this going forward.
I do think the finale will be pretty predictable though. If Janet loses immunity she leaves at Final 5 because of the Nullfier. Lauren will likely face off against Tommy or Dean at Fire and lose, and then you have a Final 3 of Dean Noura and Tommy, and Tommy will win by a landslide of 10-0-0. Im ready for this season to be over, ready for 2019 to be over in general, bring on 2020!
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Post by annab on Dec 12, 2019 15:49:05 GMT
I loved Rob and Sandra's reaction when Dean showed the fake legacy idol. They loved that he made a fake of the fake! It was probably all they could do to stay mum and not let Dean know that he's in a bad spot. It might have added to Sandra's excitement when Dean won the nullifier (which I see him playing when Janet plays hers). Rob and Sandra were probably patting themselves on the back for instructing Jamal to make the fake in the first place (and it still lives!). It was Jamal, yes? I am foggy on that part.
I have no words for the Dan situation.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Dec 12, 2019 16:19:17 GMT
Nothing changes, does it? Ellaine came forward to talk about how Dan inappropriately touched her. Nothing was done.Some people gave him the benefit of the doubt, while Ellaine, by default, is the one who is maybe lying. Unless more people come forward. The punch in the gut is she is voted off. Dean is not voted off, but rather 'forcibly' removed by the PTB. Otherwise, he stays despite his behavior, while Ellaine pays the price for coming forward. This is why victims of sexual assault, in all it's forms, don't come forward at all or wait for months or years to come forward. They know they'll be treated like a suspect while the accused is given a pass. The victim is a liar. Always. That's the message that is telegraphed.
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Post by Brooks on Dec 12, 2019 16:25:33 GMT
It was Kellee and during a confessional. Production offered to do something about it but she said no. Since it had the great potential to impact her game, either way (the victim dilemma), surely it was her choice to make.
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Post by justCoz on Dec 12, 2019 16:32:53 GMT
I still maintain that TPTB should have removed Dan clear back when Kellee was voted out. They should not have made her decide if it was okay for him to stay. It was detrimental to her game. At the very least, he should have been given a warning when she kept telling him not to touch her at the beginning of the game. Had they done that, he could have been booted off the next time. Instead they waited until then to give him a warning. Clearly by his reaction at the tribal council, he didn't believe he'd done anything wrong.
I think it sends a bad message to the players too. The staff is valuable enough to protect, but the players aren't? It's probably more that now he'd had a warning and they were following through, but I don't think the optics are good with the appearance of favoring staff.
Dan's boot also better explains Aaron's emotional apology. He already knew what we didnt yet know about Dan being so inappropriate he got himself kicked off the show.
Why do they keep saying he is the first. Wasn't one of the Hantz relatives kicked off, or am I mixing up my shows?
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