|
|
Post by MissGriss on Jan 19, 2020 2:51:59 GMT
His fashion is political? Since when? What were the political statements in his other outfits? Nancy... really??? You thought his dress was beautiful? Sergio's outfit was unflattering, unattractive, and failed to tell the story of those children who died, IMO. I think Sergio is a tad egotistical, and I don't get his fashion. I actually preferred some of the safe designers more than the top designers this week... especially Marquis and Brittany. Victoria's look was OK.... but I don't see why it was on the top. Good for Chelsey! so I'm not sure, but I think he's had other topics his fashions were supposed to stand for.  I really don't remember because I quit listening to him that much. I usually quit listening every time he brings up a cause. Agreed! I've never seen him actually use the art of fashion to make a political statement, but I have heard him talk about how politics affect his fashion. I think he made a big speech about not using anything plastic for the unconventional materials challenge because of the damage plastics are doing to the environment. And he's said a few other things about his principles when it comes to what materials he'll use. But he's so self-righteous when he says stuff that I find myself rolling my eyes even if I might normally agree with him. Mostly, I've just seen him create butt-ugly stuff that I wouldn't be caught dead in and that he thinks is amazing. Trust me, Sergio! It's not! A really good designer could have created an amazing statement piece about the immigration experience that was also a piece of wearable art. And it would have involved way more than just embroidering names on a tacky dress. I'm not even a designer, and I have some better ideas than that! Make a cool, well-cut outfit with graffiti that says "Go back to where you came from!" or some other important message. (See Christian Seriano's outfit for Jennifer Nettles at the Country Music Awards.*) Or make a dress that evokes cages! There are a million good ideas, and Sergio's wasn't one of them. * meaww.com/cma-awards-2019-jennifer-nettles-red-carpet-outfit-statement-play-me |
|
|
|
Post by silver18 on Jan 19, 2020 17:36:57 GMT
The other thing that doesnt sit right with me is to use expensive high fashion to honour the poor, immmigrant immigrant children who died and their families. They will likely will never be able to afford the clothes Sergio makes ... it just seems weirdly inappropriate to me somehow... ironic? Oxymoronic?
|
|
|
|
Post by Kao on Jan 19, 2020 18:48:33 GMT
The other thing that doesnt sit right with me is to use expensive high fashion to honour the poor, immmigrant immigrant children who died and their families. They will likely will never be able to afford the clothes Sergio makes ... it just seems weirdly inappropriate to me somehow... ironic? Oxymoronic? I don't have a problem with the idea; I have more of a problem with the piss-poor way it was executed which cheapened it. |
|
|
|
Post by acookertv on Jan 20, 2020 1:13:11 GMT
It felt like he used the victims names as a trick to protect himself from being eliminated. And it felt like the judges saw through it which is why they said so much to separate the issue from their critiques. Using an issue like that seemed exploitive and that’s just gross.
|
|
|
|
Post by Kao on Jan 20, 2020 1:54:11 GMT
In all fairness, it is part of his heritage and the entire situation with Mexican immigrants and their treatment is exploitative and gross. When handling topics like that a lot of thought and consideration should go into the construction and final product. Unfortunately, his outfit had none of that. There were a couple out outfits where text was rendered on the outfit very well (Chelsey, Marquise) but the stitching just looked homespun and cheap.
|
|
|
|
Post by justCoz on Jan 20, 2020 2:17:28 GMT
In all fairness, it is part of his heritage and the entire situation with Mexican immigrants and their treatment is exploitative and gross. When handling topics like that a lot of thought and consideration should go into the construction and final product. Unfortunately, his outfit had none of that. There were a couple out outfits where text was rendered on the outfit very well (Chelsey, Marquise) but the stitching just looked homespun and cheap. I thought it would be better if he'd stuck with making a beautiful cotton garment to honor his grandfather. He still could have mentioned at every chance that the poor treatment of immigrants was not only important to him on a humane basis but also on a cultural basis. He could have told us, he could have told other designers, told it to Christian. If he made his garment beautiful enough to be in the top, then he could have explained to the judges too. Perhaps then the reception would have been a positive one instead of it coming across like a ploy. We know it really was his intention to highlight immigration atrocities but he shouldn't have made the dress look so bad since that was his intention. |
|
|
|
Post by Kao on Jan 20, 2020 3:20:54 GMT
There are a lot of different directions he could have gone in, anything from a modern adaptation of the garments Frida Kahlo wore to a more modern tribal Aztec look, to a simple cotton garment exquisitely tailored. He could have even done an adaptation of the traditional clothing worn by villagers in the town where the 6 children were from and still gotten the point across in a better way. It was a real missed opportunity.
|
|
amber
FORT Addict
Posts: 1,188
Member is Online
|
Post by amber on Jan 20, 2020 9:33:03 GMT
The only way his clothing is political is that Pat Nixon probably would have worn it. This comes off as an odd comment to me. Why Pat Nixon? |
|
|
|
Post by MissGriss on Jan 20, 2020 10:46:53 GMT
The only way his clothing is political is that Pat Nixon probably would have worn it. This comes off as an odd comment to me. Why Pat Nixon? I assumed that Critical was making a joke based on the fact that Pay Nixon was an older woman (his target audience) and was involved in politics. |
|
|
|
Post by Arielflies on Jan 20, 2020 15:01:52 GMT
AND the cinched waist dress of the 50s which she wore.
|
|
|
|
Post by Kao on Jan 21, 2020 0:39:23 GMT
The fan favorite has been released today and it is....
*drumroll*
BRITTANY
Congrats to Brittany; it really is a cute outfit. Go to the Bravo website to purchase her dress!
|
|
|
|
Post by Navybelle on Jan 21, 2020 3:26:22 GMT
The fan favorite has been released today and it is.... *drumroll* BRITTANYCongrats to Brittany; it really is a cute outfit. Go to the Bravo website to purchase her dress! I see the athletic jacket and a yellow dress underneath? I like the little dress form applique on it, and that they took off some of what she had on the jacket. I'm so glad she won this part! |
|
|
|
Post by Kao on Jan 21, 2020 4:17:44 GMT
That's Chelsey's outfit which was the top design. Brittany wasn't in the top three, but Instagram voters made her outfit the fan favorite.
edit: Weird...they said that her outfit would be online for purchase but it's not posted yet.
|
|
|
|
Post by silver18 on Jan 21, 2020 19:23:37 GMT
In all fairness, it is part of his heritage and the entire situation with Mexican immigrants and their treatment is exploitative and gross. When handling topics like that a lot of thought and consideration should go into the construction and final product. Unfortunately, his outfit had none of that. There were a couple out outfits where text was rendered on the outfit very well (Chelsey, Marquise) but the stitching just looked homespun and cheap. I thought it would be better if he'd stuck with making a beautiful cotton garment to honor his grandfather. He still could have mentioned at every chance that the poor treatment of immigrants was not only important to him on a humane basis but also on a cultural basis. He could have told us, he could have told other designers, told it to Christian. If he made his garment beautiful enough to be in the top, then he could have explained to the judges too. Perhaps then the reception would have been a positive one instead of it coming across like a ploy. We know it really was his intention to highlight immigration atrocities but he shouldn't have made the dress look so bad since that was his intention. Agreed.... |
|
I really don't remember because I quit listening to him that much. I usually quit listening every time he brings up a cause. 
