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Post by Critical on Feb 10, 2020 2:43:45 GMT
The only thing you haven't mentioned is that, on the Carli/Christian set-up, they mentioned different interpretations of a tuxedo and when Christian said he designed Billy's tuxedo dress for the Oscars and they showed the photo, the camera swung to Sergio and his face had fallen...caught out, or et.tu. Brute. I watched Andy Cohen's show with Christian afterward and he said that he doesn't watch the comments or interviews of the designers made during the show. He also said he was not a fan of Sergio bringing politics to the runway, that it should be about the clothes, only. He didn't lie. I think you may have misunderstood which dress he was claiming. Sergio designed the red and pink tuxedo gown Billy Porter wore to the Tonys in 2019 (the black one Christian designed is the one Billy wore to the Oscars last year).
I'm not a Sergio fan and, IMO, that gown wasn't nearly as good a garment as the one Christian designed, but he wasn't lying.
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Post by silver18 on Feb 10, 2020 7:32:18 GMT
I think both designs for Billy Porter were pretty awful but Christian's less so. The one he wore to the Oscar's tonight was awful as well...
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Post by ibot2much on Feb 10, 2020 13:08:09 GMT
I think that the dress Sergio bragged about in designing for Billy was a red one......that came after Christian did the tux...so CS did it first.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 10, 2020 13:33:19 GMT
I think that the dress Sergio bragged about in designing for Billy was a red one......that came after Christian did the tux...so CS did it first. And Sergio's design basically copied what Christian did, but did it in color. The special think about that look was that it used the theater curtain - the design was not a wow. |
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Post by sunnydayz on Feb 10, 2020 14:46:15 GMT
I have been watching Next in Fashion on Netflix and it is way better then PR. What the designers can do in a day and a half is amazing. Thanks to those of you who mentioned this show here. I didn’t know about it before and am enjoying it very much! |
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Post by babbred on Feb 10, 2020 16:58:51 GMT
Somebody above mentioned not liking most of the remaining designers. That's pretty much how I feel. The only ones I care about are Geoffrey, Nancy, and Marquise. They may not be the best overall designers, but at least they've acted like decent human beings. If they keep to having 3 designers in the finale, then it means 5 have to be eliminated before then. I feel like I'm climbing up a mountain...
I forgot this earlier. I hated how, at the beginning of the show, they brought back more eliminated designers than there were remaining ones. That was so unfair to leave Asma standing there all by herself! How humiliating! Would it really have hurt to wait and have this challenge when the numbers matched up? And speaking of which, since they've now had the "returning designer" episode, what will they do for the finale? Have them return again? As Charlie Brown would say, good grief.  |
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Post by acookertv on Feb 10, 2020 17:09:32 GMT
It was tough seeing Asma standing there and going home after doing nothing. But with Dayoung getting sick, they never would have had the right numbers, would they? That took them to an odd number of contestants, and they'd probably already planned the details of the challenge so they had to improvise. Maybe that's why they had the returning designers choose instead of the remaining. That way, someone was left out by random draw rather than not being picked at all.
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Post by ibot2much on Feb 10, 2020 17:57:58 GMT
Agree with you that is exactly what happened.
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Post by babbred on Feb 10, 2020 19:32:05 GMT
It was tough seeing Asma standing there and going home after doing nothing. But with Dayoung getting sick, they never would have had the right numbers, would they? That took them to an odd number of contestants, and they'd probably already planned the details of the challenge so they had to improvise. Maybe that's why they had the returning designers choose instead of the remaining. That way, someone was left out by random draw rather than not being picked at all.
Poor Dayoung. I forgot that she left because she got sick. I don't know why, but for some reason I thought there 8 designers left and 8 had gone home.  Yeah, I guess that was the best they could do. I mean, what was the alternative? Call up a random eliminated designer and say, "Er, sorry, we picked your name out of a hat and so you lost. The others will come back but not you." I suppose that might have been a tad bit better, but not by much. And how would the extra designer there wasn't some sort of fix in? Wish they could have given Asma some sort of consolation prize, though, since she gave up her time to be there. Maybe be a guest judge for that challenge?
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Post by ibot2much on Feb 10, 2020 19:40:15 GMT
It was as fair as it could be using the button bag. She didn't really give up anything as all the dismissed designers are in the building in a different apartment. Everybody stays in Brooklyn until the competition is over.
I would think being a guest judge is way over the top as a consolation prize for not being a helper...
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Post by Kao on Feb 10, 2020 20:01:57 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 10, 2020 20:02:28 GMT
I just started watching E!'s YouTube video of Christian's recent Fall/Winter show at New York Fashion Week (link below), and I thought it was interesting that Tan France and Alexa Chung, the hosts of Next in Fashion, were among the front row celebs along with Heidi Klum and some of Christian's favorite celebrities. To me, that seems to indicate that the Project Runway team are embracing the competition. Also, Zanna Roberts Rassi, the mentor from Project Runway All Stars is the one hosting the video of Christian's show, which is fun. NOTE: The video was shot live, so the first 15 - 20 minutes are Zanna wandering around talking and filling time till the show starts. At about 16 minutes in, she interviews Heidi, then the show starts at around 25 minutes in.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=B4-3zTw4No8EDITED TO ADD: As for the numbers being off for the returning designers, I don't think Dayoung leaving made a difference. If she were still there, wouldn't there have been two extra returning designers, since Marquise would have been among the eliminated ones? |
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Post by Arielflies on Feb 10, 2020 22:31:09 GMT
Thank you for posting the youtube of Christian's show. It was fascinating...shiny and fascinating.
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Post by justmythoughts on Feb 11, 2020 5:48:50 GMT
He didn't lie. I think you may have misunderstood which dress he was claiming. Sergio designed the red and pink tuxedo gown Billy Porter wore to the Tonys in 2019 (the black one Christian designed is the one Billy wore to the Oscars last year).
I'm not a Sergio fan and, IMO, that gown wasn't nearly as good a garment as the one Christian designed, but he wasn't lying.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Feb 11, 2020 12:50:59 GMT
Here is Billy's tux/gown from the Tonys, credited to Celestino couture (Sergio's brand). It's different, but definitely a variation on Christian's original look:  Of course, it very well could be because Billy asked for the same idea done differently, so I can't presume to know Sergio's mind as he designed it... |
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Post by babbred on Feb 11, 2020 13:39:11 GMT
It was as fair as it could be using the button bag. She didn't really give up anything as all the dismissed designers are in the building in a different apartment. Everybody stays in Brooklyn until the competition is over. I would think being a guest judge is way over the top as a consolation prize for not being a helper...
At first I didn't have any clue what you were talking about. Then I remembered reading many seasons ago that all of the designers get to show at NYFW, so that the media won't guess who's in the finale. That would make sense, then, that they can't go home until filming is over. How lame. I know Patricia said it was okay, but honestly, I would hate it. You sit around twiddling your thumbs, knowing that the other designers are still filming challenges and getting closer to winning. And you? You're counting the days until you go home.  |
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Post by acookertv on Feb 11, 2020 14:00:50 GMT
It was as fair as it could be using the button bag. She didn't really give up anything as all the dismissed designers are in the building in a different apartment. Everybody stays in Brooklyn until the competition is over. I would think being a guest judge is way over the top as a consolation prize for not being a helper...
At first I didn't have any clue what you were talking about. Then I remembered reading many seasons ago that all of the designers get to show at NYFW, so that the media won't guess who's in the finale. That would make sense, then, that they can't go home until filming is over. How lame. I know Patricia said it was okay, but honestly, I would hate it. You sit around twiddling your thumbs, knowing that the other designers are still filming challenges and getting closer to winning. And you? You're counting the days until you go home. That's pretty standard for almost all competition reality shows I believe. The producers go to great lengths to protect the outcome before a show airs. I have a friend whose son competed on Ninja Warrior Jr and the level they had to go to keeping that a secret was incredible. They even had to make up a story about a family vacation to explain their absence when they went to film. With a show like this where someone is eliminated each week, if you were not held somewhere until filming was complete, it would be very easy for neighbors, co-workers etc to know the results based on when you return home. People know going into it that they are committing the full amount of time regardless of the time and they get paid for it. I'd rather go through that than to be sent home but told I could not go back to work because people would know the outcome. |
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Post by babbred on Feb 12, 2020 21:08:03 GMT
At first I didn't have any clue what you were talking about. Then I remembered reading many seasons ago that all of the designers get to show at NYFW, so that the media won't guess who's in the finale. That would make sense, then, that they can't go home until filming is over. How lame. I know Patricia said it was okay, but honestly, I would hate it. You sit around twiddling your thumbs, knowing that the other designers are still filming challenges and getting closer to winning. And you? You're counting the days until you go home. That's pretty standard for almost all competition reality shows I believe. The producers go to great lengths to protect the outcome before a show airs. I have a friend whose son competed on Ninja Warrior Jr and the level they had to go to keeping that a secret was incredible. They even had to make up a story about a family vacation to explain their absence when they went to film. With a show like this where someone is eliminated each week, if you were not held somewhere until filming was complete, it would be very easy for neighbors, co-workers etc to know the results based on when you return home. People know going into it that they are committing the full amount of time regardless of the time and they get paid for it. I'd rather go through that than to be sent home but told I could not go back to work because people would know the outcome.
I'm in two minds. If somebody wanted to pay me to stay home and read my books, then you wouldn't get any argument from me.  OTOH, you're basically getting a free trip to New York while you hang around waiting to go home. That sounds kind of nice, too. As long as you get to leave the apartment from time to time. I could never live like they do in The Bachelor. I'd go crazy.  |
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Post by Kao on Feb 12, 2020 21:37:29 GMT
That's pretty standard for almost all competition reality shows I believe. The producers go to great lengths to protect the outcome before a show airs. I have a friend whose son competed on Ninja Warrior Jr and the level they had to go to keeping that a secret was incredible. They even had to make up a story about a family vacation to explain their absence when they went to film. With a show like this where someone is eliminated each week, if you were not held somewhere until filming was complete, it would be very easy for neighbors, co-workers etc to know the results based on when you return home. People know going into it that they are committing the full amount of time regardless of the time and they get paid for it. I'd rather go through that than to be sent home but told I could not go back to work because people would know the outcome.
I'm in two minds. If somebody wanted to pay me to stay home and read my books, then you wouldn't get any argument from me. OTOH, you're basically getting a free trip to New York while you hang around waiting to go home. That sounds kind of nice, too. As long as you get to leave the apartment from time to time. I could never live like they do in The Bachelor. I'd go crazy. Once you're eliminated it's like free time and you can do whatever you want to. You get a decent per diem so you can shop, explore the city, check your email, watch tv, etc. Apparently you get a handler and they act as your guide around the city as well, and I think they supply transportation as well. When Patricia Michaels got eliminated from All Stars the next day she got an email:
The reason why she hadn't received their emails before was because she was in prep/at All Stars and they aren't allowed email. If she was still in the competition, she would not have received the email in time, nor would she had been able to go. This is a case of losing a dollar and later finding 50 bucks on the sidewalk.
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Yeah, I guess that was the best they could do. I mean, what was the alternative? Call up a random eliminated designer and say, "Er, sorry, we picked your name out of a hat and so you lost. The others will come back but not you." I suppose that might have been a tad bit better, but not by much. And how would the extra designer there wasn't some sort of fix in? Wish they could have given Asma some sort of consolation prize, though, since she gave up her time to be there. Maybe be a guest judge for that challenge?
OTOH, you're basically getting a free trip to New York while you hang around waiting to go home. That sounds kind of nice, too. As long as you get to leave the apartment from time to time. I could never live like they do in The Bachelor. I'd go crazy. 