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Post by waywyrd on Feb 21, 2020 2:36:25 GMT
Olympic Game Plan - Amateur fashion stylists and designers compete in the industry's premiere fashion competition. Guided by famed fashion experts, the contestants must tackle each challenge with a quick and clever mind.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by Kao on Feb 21, 2020 6:24:31 GMT
Surprisingly, everyone did a great job with their Olympic ladies. There were a few missteps, but overall all the ladies absolutely loved what was made for them, and they looked really good too. Congrats to Nancy for finally winning this challenge, and IMO the decision as to who would go home was the best one they could make considering the circumstances.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 21, 2020 6:49:02 GMT
Surprisingly, everyone did a great job with their Olympic ladies. There were a few missteps, but overall all the ladies absolutely loved what was made for them, and they looked really good too. Congrats to Nancy for finally winning this challenge, and IMO the decision as to who would go home was the best one they could make considering the circumstances. I agree! Victoria is such a poor sport to be pissed that no one went home!
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Post by justCoz on Feb 21, 2020 6:53:16 GMT
I thought Nancy should win, not just based on her design, but the thought that went into it.
It was nice to see how much the ladies all liked their dresses. They were just beaming. Do they get to keep them? I hope someone fixed Geoffrey's dress so she'd have something wearable after the iron fiasco.
As much as Sergio bugs me, he raised up a little in my opinion of him tonight when he said he's always willing to share his technical knowledge because he wants to beat them based on design, not if they can do a particular technique or not. I appreciate the kind of competitor who wants to really win. I may have said this before, but it's like winning a game of pool by your opponent scratching on the eight ball. It's technically a win, but not really a win because it's more that they lost, not that you won outright.
While I agree with the judges in the elimination, if it were me, I probably would have sent Brittany home again.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 21, 2020 8:48:18 GMT
I agree about Nancy, justCoz! Thanks for saying that. I meant to mention her and forgot! I loved so much that her athlete wanted a train and she figured out how to give her a beautiful one. It was so cool when she was doing a wheelie and twirling at the end of the runway.
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Post by beerbelly on Feb 21, 2020 12:18:17 GMT
God, those women were just so beautiful. I was loving every minute of it.
I thought Nancy's was a showstopper. I also loved how she was excited and said 'my client uses a wheelchair' (instead of 'in a'). Nancy is hot stuff and once again I can't stand Britney as to how she treats Nancy. I'm sorry if you find her boring, but maybe if you had listened instead of rolled your eyes you would have done better.
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Post by babbred on Feb 21, 2020 12:27:24 GMT
Surprisingly, everyone did a great job with their Olympic ladies. There were a few missteps, but overall all the ladies absolutely loved what was made for them, and they looked really good too. Congrats to Nancy for finally winning this challenge, and IMO the decision as to who would go home was the best one they could make considering the circumstances.
Yes, maybe it was just me, but it seemed like they were straining to find reasons to criticize these dresses. There were no obviously terrible ones. The ones that had flaws were minor ones that would have made the designer safe earlier in the competition.
I'm glad they didn't ding Geoffrey for the spot on his dress. I wonder if it really was Nancy? I don't see how there was much she could have done about it, though, except maybe warn the other designers if she had known.
On the flip side, I'm glad Nancy won. That dress Victoria sent down was just another of her asymmetrical dresses. Nancy had to really think about hers, such as how to make a train that wouldn't get caught in the wheelchair. That took creativity. And it was beautiful.
I am so over Victoria. Remember what Brittany said? Wow, what good luck for Victoria that she just happened to get a client who wanted exactly the kind of dress Victoria designs. Yeah, if I were the other designers, I'd wonder if the fix was in, too. I will say it right now: if Victoria wins this whole thing, it will not surprise me one iota. Clearly the judges (or somebody behind the scenes) wants her to do so.
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Post by ibot2much on Feb 21, 2020 13:31:48 GMT
Glad there was no horrible outfit. I remember many, many PR seasons when the "real" women were very unhappy with the results . Of course then, they were designing for walking clothes hangers and not many wanted to work with the real female figure. I couldn't imagine how else they would have handled the "loser" since there really was not one.
Nancy did a great job and showed so much compassion.
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Post by photobabe on Feb 21, 2020 13:36:47 GMT
I agree with all the previous comments. But, I was disappointed in Christian. Remember him telling the designers in Mood that there were too many red dresses and they should use a different color? And, that back in the workroom he made a comment to the effect that they didn't have to give the clients exactly what they wanted? Had any of the designers listened to Christian it probably would have resulted in an unhappy client and that is the designer who would have gone home. I miss Tim.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 21, 2020 14:26:05 GMT
Surprisingly, everyone did a great job with their Olympic ladies. There were a few missteps, but overall all the ladies absolutely loved what was made for them, and they looked really good too. Congrats to Nancy for finally winning this challenge, and IMO the decision as to who would go home was the best one they could make considering the circumstances.
I'm glad they didn't ding Geoffrey for the spot on his dress. I wonder if it really was Nancy? I don't see how there was much she could have done about it, though, except maybe warn the other designers if she had known.
They showed that snippet of Nancy using that iron just ten minutes before Geoffrey. I even thought you could see the black on the iron when she set it back down. I don't think there's any doubt it was her. She didn't do it maliciously, she was just careless, and in such a hurry that she didn't even notice that it happened. Unfortunately Geoffrey didn't notice either because he was in a hurry too. Considering that it was for such a special occasion, I was disappointed that this was only a one day challenge.
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Post by newsboi on Feb 21, 2020 15:40:19 GMT
I'm thrilled that Nancy finally got a win!!! I've known her since the early eighties when she was a single mom of two sons under the age of 8. She had just returned to college to finish her degree. She mentioned that she was working five jobs at the time on the show. I gave her one of those jobs. She was amazing! Totally professional, dependable, focused and just an all around nice person. She's become a really important designer here in Philadelphia and deserves all of the acclaim that she's getting at this stage in her life. Nancy for the win!!
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Post by amber on Feb 21, 2020 15:59:19 GMT
I like Victoria's look best. Then, Nancy's, then Geoffrey's and Sirgio's. Marquise's and Brittany's dresses were hideous.
Obviously producers decided to keep the Brittney around for the additional drama she brings and especially the expected drama of next week's double elimination.
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Post by amber on Feb 21, 2020 16:03:31 GMT
I'm thrilled that Nancy finally got a win!!! I've known her since the early eighties when she was a single mom of two sons under the age of 8. She had just returned to college to finish her degree. She mentioned that she was working five jobs at the time on the show. I gave her one of those jobs. She was amazing! Totally professional, dependable, focused and just an all around nice person. She's become a really important designer here in Philadelphia and deserves all of the acclaim that she's getting at this stage in her life. Nancy for the win!! No doubt Nancy is very talented and I'm hopeful she'll make it to the final 4.
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Post by ibot2much on Feb 21, 2020 16:22:14 GMT
It was ironic that Victoria complained that nobody went home, when she put at least two disasters on the runway-----those disasters deserved to go home on.
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Post by provenceguy on Feb 21, 2020 16:56:22 GMT
Nancy's Olympian looked like she felt beautiful, and she was.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 21, 2020 18:47:40 GMT
I'm thrilled that Nancy finally got a win!!! I've known her since the early eighties when she was a single mom of two sons under the age of 8. She had just returned to college to finish her degree. She mentioned that she was working five jobs at the time on the show. I gave her one of those jobs. She was amazing! Totally professional, dependable, focused and just an all around nice person. She's become a really important designer here in Philadelphia and deserves all of the acclaim that she's getting at this stage in her life. Nancy for the win!! How fun to hear from someone who knows her! I find her really likable--like someone I would want to be friends with. It's nice to know that she's as wonderful as she seems. (I also get that some people don't enjoy her, but different strokes....)
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Post by ccl on Feb 22, 2020 2:22:44 GMT
I found all the outfits meh... Nancy’s was a little Medieval Times with that fabric and arm straps. Sergio’s was pretty but basic. Victoria’s was like all the other ones she’s made a hundred times (she’s an asymmetrical designer...what? That’s not a thing, Victoria). Geoffrey’s was trampy. Brittany’s and Marquise’s were average. So I’m not surprised no one went home, I am more surprised they could find a winner. I did appreciate Nancy’s inclusive touches so I would have given her the win on that, I guess.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 22, 2020 2:45:09 GMT
I was rooting for Nancy in this challenge from the moment she found out which athlete she had. I think many of the designers would have whined incessantly about having a client who uses a wheelchair, but Nancy just beamed at the opportunity. You can’t fake that kind of compassion ( Sergio!) and it was delightful to see.
I didn’t find as much fault in Christians comments as some others did. Designing for a client should take their wishes into consideration, but the clients are still relying on the designers expertise. In the fittings they could have talked about recommending changes because of how they’d flatter the figure. Nancy did a bit of that where her client asked for some things and she’d take it into consideration but suggest something better. Some of those dresses could have been better had the designers suggested and persuaded on improvements.
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Post by silver18 on Feb 22, 2020 6:51:35 GMT
Well call me Ms.Sourpuss, cause I was not a fan of any of the dresses. Victoria's dress was too short and too "the same". Nancy's dress was the best, but I found the colour dull and the fabric heavy. I agree that Sergio's dress had some construction issues...I still find Sergio very arrogant. I guess I didn't find any of the dresses particularly flattering, but if they loved their dresses then that is all that counts. Glad they all live to see another day.
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Post by sunnydayz on Feb 23, 2020 17:21:35 GMT
Surprisingly, everyone did a great job with their Olympic ladies. There were a few missteps, but overall all the ladies absolutely loved what was made for them, and they looked really good too. Congrats to Nancy for finally winning this challenge, and IMO the decision as to who would go home was the best one they could make considering the circumstances. I agree! Victoria is such a poor sport to be pissed that no one went home! Victoria is determined to win this thing, and if she doesn’t, I expect to see a full-on meltdown from her. I really liked how the judges gave only positive comments while the athletes were on the runway with their designers. They focused on how the Olympians felt about their designs and pointed out the positives. Only after excusing them did the judges give their constructive criticism. I remember past seasons being handled differently and always felt so bad for the clients who stood there while judges pointed out all the negatives of what they were wearing. I like to imagine that the Olympians end up with a completely new dress....similar to what they wore on the runway but with everything completely fixed and fit to perfection...a dress that is made over several days, with several fittings.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 23, 2020 18:37:53 GMT
I really liked how the judges gave only positive comments while the athletes were on the runway with their designers. They focused on how the Olympians felt about their designs and pointed out the positives. Only after excusing them did the judges give their constructive criticism. I remember past seasons being handled differently and always felt so bad for the clients who stood there while judges pointed out all the negatives of what they were wearing. I liked that too, and commented to my daughter how much better it was . It's much kinder to the clients that way. I think it was a much-needed change.
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Post by babbred on Feb 24, 2020 13:10:22 GMT
I really liked how the judges gave only positive comments while the athletes were on the runway with their designers. They focused on how the Olympians felt about their designs and pointed out the positives. Only after excusing them did the judges give their constructive criticism. I remember past seasons being handled differently and always felt so bad for the clients who stood there while judges pointed out all the negatives of what they were wearing. I liked that too, and commented to my daughter how much better it was . It's much kinder to the clients that way. I think it was a much-needed change.
Yes, I always felt sorry for the clients who would say, "I love it!" and then have the judges tear it apart. You could just see the client and the designer deflating. I also loved how the judges gave this as a reason for not eliminating anyone. "Well, everyone produced a dress that their client loved. You fulfilled the challenge!" Again, once the clients were off the runway, it felt like the judges were straining to comp up with things for criticism. The clients were all happy. To say that this or the other designer had a minor flaw was just kind of petty. If the client didn't mind wearing their outfit, then what does it matter?
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Post by acookertv on Feb 24, 2020 13:23:21 GMT
I see where everyone is coming from with the "clients loved it" perspective, but couldn't that argument give a reason to not vote anyone off of most episodes? There have been some challenges where every design was fantastic - where the judges have been forced to go after the most petty of shortcomings for a reason to send someone home. That's what the competition is about. While I can appreciate that in this one they had the added element of a designer who may not do something in a vacuum on his or her own but did it because it's what the client wanted - at the end of the day they are designers and they are supposed to bring their expertise to the table. Christian was preaching that at Mood and in his consultations. I thought that even though the designers delivered what their clients asked for, there were some flaws worthy of going home. I think that in many other challenges, Sergio would have been slammed for putting together a tent for a maternity dress, that looked like it was made in a high school home ec class. Victoria and Geoffrey would have been slammed for the proportions being off and the skirts being way too short. Those are legitimate flaws. If they are going to take the easy way out and say "eh, you gave them what they asked for" then it seems to me that next time they all make an outfit from unconventional materials, they'd also have to say "eh, you made a dress out of something other than fabric, you all stay" etc. You said it right Babbred - the clients didn't mind wearing their outfits. But how many of them had their eyes opened to an entirely new way to look, discovering beauty they didn't realize they had?
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 24, 2020 18:43:09 GMT
I see where everyone is coming from with the "clients loved it" perspective, but couldn't that argument give a reason to not vote anyone off of most episodes? There have been some challenges where every design was fantastic - where the judges have been forced to go after the most petty of shortcomings for a reason to send someone home. That's what the competition is about. While I can appreciate that in this one they had the added element of a designer who may not do something in a vacuum on his or her own but did it because it's what the client wanted - at the end of the day they are designers and they are supposed to bring their expertise to the table. Christian was preaching that at Mood and in his consultations. I thought that even though the designers delivered what their clients asked for, there were some flaws worthy of going home. I think that in many other challenges, Sergio would have been slammed for putting together a tent for a maternity dress, that looked like it was made in a high school home ec class. Victoria and Geoffrey would have been slammed for the proportions being off and the skirts being way too short. Those are legitimate flaws. If they are going to take the easy way out and say "eh, you gave them what they asked for" then it seems to me that next time they all make an outfit from unconventional materials, they'd also have to say "eh, you made a dress out of something other than fabric, you all stay" etc. You said it right Babbred - the clients didn't mind wearing their outfits. But how many of them had their eyes opened to an entirely new way to look, discovering beauty they didn't realize they had? I agree! I was really irritated with Sergio's dress. He clearly thinks the pregnant body is something to be hidden rather than celebrated. That dress really was just a glorified tent. I didn't get the love for Victoria's dress. It seemed poorly constructed and ill-fitting. I could see how the judges appreciated that she managed to get the client to let her create something that expressed Victoria's aesthetic as well as the client's, but that was really the only thing she deserved "extra" points for.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 24, 2020 23:25:10 GMT
Here's what I think is so weird about Sergio's dress. The newer fashion for pregnant women is to highlight the baby bump. He did not, thinking she'd be more comfortable in something loose-fitting. I agree with him in that aspect, clearly the judges did not. They seemed to think that tighter would be better. Personally, I couldn't stand tight things when I was pregnant, so I think it's really a personal preference as some of them stated it was more comfortable. According to the edit, they never asked the lady herself what she preferred.
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 25, 2020 0:23:23 GMT
Here's what I think is so weird about Sergio's dress. The newer fashion for pregnant women is to highlight the baby bump. He did not, thinking she'd be more comfortable in something loose-fitting. I agree with him in that aspect, clearly the judges did not. They seemed to think that tighter would be better. Personally, I couldn't stand tight things when I was pregnant, so I think it's really a personal preference as some of them stated it was more comfortable. According to the edit, they never asked the lady herself what she preferred. Yeah. It's possible he asked and they didn't show it. If it was her preference, I'm cool with that. Based on his conversation with Brittany, tough. it seemed to be more about HIS preference.
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Post by Kao on Feb 25, 2020 5:44:46 GMT
Maybe I'm wrong, but I could have sworn that he asked her and she told him she wanted something loose and flowy. She definitely told him that she wanted something to show off her back.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 25, 2020 11:56:43 GMT
I believe you're right and she did say she didn't want it to be fitted. Not being fitted was also wise since time would go by between when he made it and when she'd wear it. But I do think he could have made some adjustments to allow it to be lose and flowing instead of looking like a tent. I think that would have started with better fabric selection - he was stuck on a color when he should have been stuck on a weight of the fabric (light). He also could have tailored the top MUCH better to give her an open back that fit and flattered better. I thought it didn't just look like a tent with the skirt, but also with the top.
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Post by justCoz on Feb 25, 2020 14:57:12 GMT
A lot of them had fit issues this time, and that was in part because it was only a one day challenge. I'm glad that's not the norm this season, but it's more infrequent. We're getting better designs and better quality in the finished designs. Every time it's been a one day challenge it's been apparent from the lack of finishing that it was rushed. Frankly, I wish this weren't a one day challenge because I think the guest models were cheated out of the best work.
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Post by babbred on Feb 25, 2020 15:30:13 GMT
Here's what I think is so weird about Sergio's dress. The newer fashion for pregnant women is to highlight the baby bump. He did not, thinking she'd be more comfortable in something loose-fitting. I agree with him in that aspect, clearly the judges did not. They seemed to think that tighter would be better. Personally, I couldn't stand tight things when I was pregnant, so I think it's really a personal preference as some of them stated it was more comfortable. According to the edit, they never asked the lady herself what she preferred. Yeah. It's possible he asked and they didn't show it. If it was her preference, I'm cool with that. Based on his conversation with Brittany, tough. it seemed to be more about HIS preference.
His preference was to not design a maternity dress at all. Because you know, dah-ling, his dresses are SO expensive and who's going to spend a ton of money on a dress that's only good for a short while? Oh, I don't know. Maybe a pregnant celebrity who wants to look good on the red carpet?
That might have been what the judges were thinking, too. Celebrities on the red carpet might want a tighter maternity dress to show off for the paparazzi.
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