2/27 - PR18 Show Discussion

Did anyone else notice that both designers who were eliminated were associated with pink butterflies? Brittany had them as part of the cape she designed and Marquise had one on his shirt.

I could see why they chose the four they did, but while I like Geoffrey and have liked some of his designs, the "latex panties," as one of the judges put it, didn't do a lot for me. I could see why they were impressed by the jacket/cape thing, but combining it with the bottoms he chose made it seem a little super-hero to me. I liked the other two retrospective looks of his better.

It did occur to me that the two designers they eliminated were the two whom they'd eliminated before. Marquise came back because Dayoung had to withdraw from the combination, and Brittany was the beneficiary of the Siriano Save. So, it's probably not a big surprise that they were both eliminated again. At least Marquise handled it well. Unfortunately, Brittany couldn't resist the mean girl remark about how the top four deserved it, but she deserved it more. Really, dear. You do know that the rest of the contestants are eventually going to hear what you said, right?

Of the four, I think I was the happiest for Nancy, simply because she was clearly the most surprised and overcome. I also really liked how excited she was about working with a para-Olympian last week, too, as I'm an Olympics-geek myself, though I prefer the Winter Olympics to the Summer Games. And it's probably petty and mean of me, but I really hope Victoria doesn't win, not because I don't think she's talented but because she's acted a bit spoiled, and sometimes it felt as if she snuck through with some pretty bad designs just because the judges liked what she'd done earlier.

I agree that the final four are the right ones. I, too, was glad that Nina challenged Sergio on doing things that are derivative, but it sure was a beautiful dress. Brittany really needs to let go of the idea that she's better than Nancy. If she were, she wouldn't have been eliminated twice. Nancy may not be everyone's cup of tea (and she does have an unconventional approach to creating clothes that probably really bugs those who are more technical), but she is very creative, and I like her work. I'm glad that she is going to Fashion Week!

Sergio's ripping off other designers would not bother me so much if he did not talk incessantly about how he's heads and tails better and more talented than anyone else. Nina made me cheer out loud when she called him out. I was also impressed that she did so this time by luring him in with a compliment, talking about how tuned in to fashion history he is. Unlike the tuxedo challenge, her doing that prevented him from claiming he wasn't aware of those shows. And of course when she said it my mind went right back to his claim to not be aware of Celine's tuxedo. I kind of wish Nina had brought that up again, but I understand why she didn't.
Everyone has remarked on some of the compassionate things they added to the show this year, and another one I really liked was the judge comments to each contestant as the results were announced. I like that they told each of the finalists what they needed to do in order to push themselves further. And I like that for the two going home they made a point of talking about their strengths and pointing out they got that far because they have talent. It was a nice way to finish it.

I think that what made Geoffrey's outfit work so well with the latex was not the brief part of it, but the skirt. I can't remember which of the judges said that latex is always used tightly fitted, and it was notable to see it flowing like that. Making that work took incredible technique AND was creative and innovative rather than being a knock off of someone else's ideas. He also went for something other than  a typical dress which is the go to with an avant garde challenge.

She  talked the most about the makeup, but from the pictures they showed, it was not just the makeup but also the design.  One of the pieces they showed (I think it was one of the McQueen pieces) was exactly the same neckline that Sergio did - both raised to be a look normally laying across the shoulders that was chin high.  I'd agree with you if it was just a matter of being inspired by Asian art. But it was being inspired by the same thing and then designing the same thing.

Sergio was criticized for referencing hair and makeup, and his story certainly fell short, but his design, which IMO was beautiful, was his own.

I'm not a fan of any one of the final four, although I'm happy that it is these four that remain.

In defense of Nancy and Sergio, they have really grown and their work has improved since the earlier episodes. Off the cuff, I don't know if I can say the same of Geoffrey and Victoria. Geoffrey is certainly more focused, but I don't really know what to say about Victoria.

I wonder if we will see the final four's full collections or will there be a preliminary challenge to disqualify one of the four?

I have finally found MY PEOPLE AGAIN! I have missed you...I had no one to snark with!

Brittany is so annoying. I was glad to see her gone. The way she looked at Nancy...did she forget she was eliminated not Nancy!

Welcome back, pasnowbunny2! Looking forward to snarking with you!

It was hilarious watching the camera flip between Nancy, the judges, and Brittany as the judges were commenting on Nancy’s designs. The editors really captured that well.

Brittany looked like she was sucking on a sour lemon when they praised Nancy, then she looked like she was trying to hide an evil smile when they criticized Nancy’s looks.

I’m very happy they put Nancy through to the finale. I hope she goes for it and doesn’t hold anything back.

I totally get why Nancy bugs people, but I like her. I definitely agree about Sergio. Every time he talks about how wonderful he is, I think, "Dude. Just shut up! You are not doing yourself any favors to let people hear you talking like this." UGH!!!

The program guide on my cable is showing new episodes the next two weeks so I think it will be a two parter.

I agree! The fabrics that he used were really cool! I loved the texture and rustic feel of the fabric in the sleeves and skirt that contrasted so nicely with the smoother wool (or whatever it was) in the bodice. It was really beautiful!

Lots to say about this episode...

First, I agree that Britanny's sketch was great, the execution feel a little short. I liked the bright cocoon jacket but it definitely needed something different underneath. I might have put distressed denim cigarette pants and a plain black or white tank. The coat wast the star, the butterflies distracted from it. When Brandon told her in critique that even a pair of jeans would have been good with the jacket, I was said to myself "exactly, what I would have put with it." Her attitude was disappointing. I understand being hurt, but being snarky was unnecessary.

I knew Nancy would end up in the final group given that the challenge was avant garde and that is kind of her thing, at least she says it is. She does do interesting silhouettes, even if I don't care for all of the black, beige, tan, olive, etc. I think she needs some color. I don't think her collection will be extraordinary, but it will be solid. I don't think she has the wow factor to win it all, but I could be wrong if the other three implode.

Victoria, oh Victoria. I liked you in the beginning, but you're one note. I think she's probably done enough to be in the final four, but not sure she has enough to win it.

Sergio, is the dark horse. If he brings it and does something original. He has the sewing talent to create really polished looking garments. But will he create something original or something reminiscent?

Geoffrey is my favorite going in. He's peaking at the right time. He used the latex which is something he knows. He played to his strengths when it counted. I like his work. It may not be my style, but I really appreciate his aesthetic and think he might take it all. It seems like the judges like him. Interested in seeing what he creates. Hope he doesn't let self doubt and pressure get to him keeping him from making a great collection.

Now for my controversial thought. I wish Christian had used his save on Chelsey. I would have liked to see what she would have done with the last two challenges. I can't help but think she would have made something great for the avant garde challenge and might have given Sergio a run for his money for the final spot. I would have even liked Marquise for the final spot. I have seen the majority of Sergio's looks before. I think Marquise's collection would have been really cool menswear, which would have been a first for PR. I would have liked to see a menswear collection in the final show.