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Post by Eastcoastmom on Mar 7, 2020 0:15:52 GMT
By the way. who is Claire? I didn’t see her being announced as the next Bachelorette. Claire Crawley,age 38, who was the F2 of Juan Pablo's season.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 7, 2020 1:56:18 GMT
I didn't watch much of Juan Pablo's season, but she was on BIP two or three times & I really liked her a lot. She's very pretty & seems to have a nice fun personality. However, she can get emotional sometimes, which I'm sure Production is really looking forward to & plans to exploit. I'm very happy with their decision. I will definitely be watching. I didn't care at all for the other "front runners" except Kelsey & probably wouldn't have watched. I just hope they don't have a bunch of guys in their 20's on there. She needs guys 35 or older.
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Post by Arielflies on Mar 7, 2020 3:54:59 GMT
On BIP Clare had teary conversations with a raccoon. On Bachelor Winter Games (International contestants) she got engaged. Then as final 2 on Juan Pablo's season she called him out at the podium.
She's a bit head strong and (I think) will make an interesting "older" Bachelorette.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 7, 2020 6:03:13 GMT
On BIP Clare had teary conversations with a raccoon. On Bachelor Winter Games (International contestants) she got engaged. Then as final 2 on Juan Pablo's season she called him out at the podium. She's a bit head strong and (I think) will make an interesting "older" Bachelorette. I hope so. We are more than due, for a good lead.
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Post by fang2170 on Mar 7, 2020 19:13:12 GMT
On BIP Clare had teary conversations with a raccoon. On Bachelor Winter Games (International contestants) she got engaged. Then as final 2 on Juan Pablo's season she called him out at the podium. She's a bit head strong and (I think) will make an interesting "older" Bachelorette. I hope so. We are more than due, for a good lead. Agreed! I think by bringing back someone in their 30's will also bring the show back to what it used to be.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 8, 2020 1:12:29 GMT
It's going to be interesting, for sure. But how much slack will the audience give her just because she is older? Very few like retreads and this will be her 5th go-around. And her story hasn't changed... she's looking for a man like her dad. Not that that's a bad thing but at 38 that's still all she's got? If I recall correctly, when we first met her what she wanted was someone who would treat her like her dad did, as his little princess. And that's what I've been seeing over the years, someone who seems to like the chase, all the compliments and the attention, but is never willing to put in the work. Wasn't it Winter Games when she dropped a guy like a hot potato? When I multiple that by 25 and hear her saying repeatedly how much she deserves... yikes. Plus her star role was when she called out Juan Pablo. Meh. That's wasn't so flattering if you ask me. She was calling him out because he spoke graphically about their "connection" which exposed her as much as it exposed him.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 8, 2020 6:35:40 GMT
It's going to be interesting, for sure. But how much slack will the audience give her just because she is older? Very few like retreads and this will be her 5th go-around. And her story hasn't changed... she's looking for a man like her dad. Not that that's a bad thing but at 38 that's still all she's got? If I recall correctly, when we first met her what she wanted was someone who would treat her like her dad did, as his little princess. And that's what I've been seeing over the years, someone who seems to like the chase, all the compliments and the attention, but is never willing to put in the work. Wasn't it Winter Games when she dropped a guy like a hot potato? When I multiple that by 25 and hear her saying repeatedly how much she deserves... yikes. Plus her star role was when she called out Juan Pablo. Meh. That's wasn't so flattering if you ask me. She was calling him out because he spoke graphically about their "connection" which exposed her as much as it exposed him. They all come with their quirks-etc.( and baggage) I heard her interviewed, and what a blessing, not to hear *like* every other word. That alone will definitely be a plus imnsho..
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 8, 2020 12:32:02 GMT
They do. As does everyone here. But I don't care about those things. I don't care about their physical features or their command of the English language when speaking. I only care about their actions/their behavior and Clare has been down this path four times already and her behavior has always been the same - it has always been about Clare and only Clare. I was hoping for another positive outcome (Ashley-JP, Sean-Catherine, Des-Chris, Arie-Lauren, Jade-Tanner, Rachel-Bryan, Ryan-Trista...) and Clare has just never been, and still doesn't seem to be, in the right mindset for that kind of outcome. Maybe one-on-one counseling with the folks in production will help change that... maybe. But again, re behavior, there was that whole thing with Juan Pablo... Yes, he was the one who made the crude comment, but it suggested she'd done something like Courtney Robertson and Kaitlyn Bristowe and those two girls got raked over the coals for their behavior. Not that I wanted Clare raked over coals, hell no, but her "connection" was with Juan Pablo, probably the least liked man on this show ever, so it's a mystery to me why her judgment was never called into question. I find it even odder that they've repeatedly brought her back; Courtney and Kaitlyn were both sent to the Bachelor Hall of Shame and basically forgotten.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 8, 2020 16:49:30 GMT
They do. As does everyone here. But I don't care about those things. I don't care about their physical features or their command of the English language when speaking. I only care about their actions/their behavior and Clare has been down this path four times already and her behavior has always been the same - it has always been about Clare and only Clare. I was hoping for another positive outcome (Ashley-JP, Sean-Catherine, Des-Chris, Arie-Lauren, Jade-Tanner, Rachel-Bryan, Ryan-Trista...) and Clare has just never been, and still doesn't seem to be, in the right mindset for that kind of outcome. Maybe one-on-one counseling with the folks in production will help change that... maybe. But again, re behavior, there was that whole thing with Juan Pablo... Yes, he was the one who made the crude comment, but it suggested she'd done something like Courtney Robertson and Kaitlyn Bristowe and those two girls got raked over the coals for their behavior. Not that I wanted Clare raked over coals, hell no, but her "connection" was with Juan Pablo, probably the least liked man on this show ever, so it's a mystery to me why her judgment was never called into question. I find it even odder that they've repeatedly brought her back; Courtney and Kaitlyn were both sent to th e Bachelor Hall of Shame and basically forgotten. I tried to listen to the very young girls talk, this season. it was terrible.( terrible) I' m really not that invested in any of them, so I'll tune in and see .I skipped the past two seasons , I'm interested again. Claire isn't my favourite, but I'm willing to give her a chance and enjoy the snark. LOL
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 8, 2020 20:47:34 GMT
On BIP Clare had teary conversations with a raccoon. On Bachelor Winter Games (International contestants) she got engaged. Then as final 2 on Juan Pablo's season she called him out at the podium. She's a bit head strong and (I think) will make an interesting "older" Bachelorette. I know that was all editing, but it was so well done & I laughed so hard at that. It was one of the highlights of the show to me. I'll bet one of the guys shows up in a raccoon suit or something raccoon related. I'd laugh again.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 8, 2020 21:13:30 GMT
I'm so curious as to why Bachelor/ette fans are excited about Clare! It's really interesting! I remember when Brad Womack came back for his second attempt (gasp) at the very same age and fans were not happy! This is her FIFTH!
Good call by production. I wouldn't have guessed in a million years that this choice would fly!!!
It will most definitely be a spoiler season for moi.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 8, 2020 22:12:34 GMT
I'm so curious as to why Bachelor/ette fans are excited about Clare! It's really interesting! I remember when Brad Womack came back for his second attempt (gasp) at the very same age and fans were not happy! This is her FIFTH! Good call by production. I wouldn't have guessed in a million years that this choice would fly!!! It will most definitely be a spoiler season for moi. I'm spoilt most seasons I like to see just how much TPTB screw with the contestants..lol. I'm never terribly excited over the rose show. I saw on FB that people are glad, it's someone older, because these little virgins, I'm looking at Madison, are just being exploited..so she's no better than Claire. Never liked Womack Nick Vile or Juan isss okay Pablo.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 9, 2020 13:14:04 GMT
Hmm, thanks for that insight, FM. Interesting. If you read any more of their thoughts, let me know!
I think Madi has held her own remarkably well, don't you? If that was their plan, I think it failed. Whereas with Luke, he pretty much threw himself under the bus, needlessly.
What concerns me is an older pool of contestants because it increases the likelihood of children being pulled into the fray.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 9, 2020 15:03:33 GMT
Hmm, thanks for that insight, FM. Interesting. If you read any more of their thoughts, let me know! I think Madi has held her own remarkably well, don't you? If that was their plan, I think it failed. Whereas with Luke, he pretty much threw himself under the bus, needlessly. What concerns me is an older pool of contestants because it increases the likelihood of children being pulled into the fray. I haven't watched Madison, but if I told a guy, I was a virgin and his sleeping with other women would upset me , I'd walk off the show..do I think she handled it well, not really, from what I've read... Claire has no children, Juan Pablo used his and this show to bring on his family. It's enough seeing all the families involved and acting out..
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 9, 2020 15:18:59 GMT
She hasn't caved to peer pressure. That says a lot about her strength. Should she've known that was how this show rolls? Sure. But I think she did. She just didn't anticipate being there at the end, and when that started to come to fruition, she did spell it out for him. It was up to him at that point. And he was caught in a catch twenty-two because he was still invested in two other relationships, so now it's up to her to decide if that's something she can get past.
Justin Bieber said on Ellen that he recently saw Pilot Pete in church. If nothing else, maybe Madi was able to encourage him to reexamine his faith. Who knows.
Anyway, you're right, Clare has no kids but some of the guys undoubtedly will.
I am wondering how COVID-19 will interfere with filming. Will contestants hesitate to participate? I hope they get along... otherwise fist fights could break out during quarantine.
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Post by FannyMare on Mar 9, 2020 16:01:06 GMT
She hasn't caved to peer pressure. That says a lot about her and her strength. Should she've known that was how this show rolls? Sure. But I think she did. She just didn't anticipate being there at the end and when it all started to come together, she did spell it out for him. It was up to him to at that point. And he was caught in a catch twenty-two because he was still invested in two other relationships. Now she has to decide if that's something she can get past. Justin Bieber said on Ellen that he recently saw Pilot Pete in church. If nothing else, maybe Madi was able to encourage him to reexamine his faith. Who knows. Anyway, you're right, Clare has no kids but some of the guys undoubtedly will. I am wondering how COVID-19 will interfere with filming. Will contestants hesitate to participate? I hope they get along... otherwise fist fights could break out during quarantine. Contestants are cooped up when Covid isn't around, hence the drinking and screaming and weeping,and that's just CH.. they've already examined travel, and I see nothing wrong in seeing parts of the US only, on the show. Fist fights? You mean like we've seen on BIP? Nah.. Wussy Peter in church ? What's he doing, praying for a spine? LOL..
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 14, 2020 17:51:14 GMT
She hasn't caved to peer pressure. That says a lot about her and her strength. Should she've known that was how this show rolls? Sure. But I think she did. She just didn't anticipate being there at the end and when it all started to come together, she did spell it out for him. It was up to him to at that point. And he was caught in a catch twenty-two because he was still invested in two other relationships. Now she has to decide if that's something she can get past. Justin Bieber said on Ellen that he recently saw Pilot Pete in church. If nothing else, maybe Madi was able to encourage him to reexamine his faith. Who knows. Anyway, you're right, Clare has no kids but some of the guys undoubtedly will. I am wondering how COVID-19 will interfere with filming. Will contestants hesitate to participate? I hope they get along... otherwise fist fights could break out during quarantine. Contestants are cooped up when Covid isn't around, hence the drinking and screaming and weeping,and that's just CH.. they've already examined travel, and I see nothing wrong in seeing parts of the US only, on the show. Fist fights? You mean like we've seen on BIP? Nah.. Wussy Peter in church ? What's he doing, praying for a spine? LOL.. Season Postponed
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