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Post by DoodleMom921 on Aug 1, 2020 2:24:31 GMT
Not sure how much I am allowed to post about other websites- but there is a potential spoiler on reddit and Reality Steves Twitter/Instagram going around edited to add: I didn’t see a spoiler thread for season 16 yet just season 15 still so wasn’t sure where to discuss {Spoiler}
Rumor has it Clare has quit or was fired and they flew Tayshia in as a replacement
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 1, 2020 2:28:06 GMT
Not sure how much I am allowed to post about other websites- but is anyone else following the HUGE potential spoiler on reddit and Reality Steves Twitter/Instagram tonight? {Spoiler}
Rumor has it Clare has quit or was fired and they flew Tayshia in as a replacement
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Post by provenceguy on Aug 1, 2020 3:04:17 GMT
Well, I guess we can include Clare here because RS & others are saying that after 2 weeks of filming, Clare is out as the Bachelorette & Tayshia is being quarantined in order to take over. Truly the most dramatic season ever.
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 1, 2020 5:01:29 GMT
Not sure how much I am allowed to post about other websites- but there is a potential spoiler on reddit and Reality Steves Twitter/Instagram going around edited to add: I didn’t see a spoiler thread for season 16 yet just season 15 still so wasn’t sure where to discuss {Spoiler}
Rumor has it Clare has quit or was fired and they flew Tayshia in as a replacement
I've been reading about this all evening. A lot of sites & people reporting this, but it's all exactly the same information, so something tells me that it all came from exactly the same source. Nobody seems to have heard anything more than the original info. Everyone is just talking about it over and over again. I guess we'll hear more by the beginning of next week at the latest. Whatever the outcome, I hope we get to see it, or at least their edited version, as part of the season. |
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Post by waywyrd on Aug 1, 2020 12:31:31 GMT
What the....well, if this is true, it's truly a "never-before-seen" moment for the franchise.  |
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 1, 2020 13:09:10 GMT
 And you all thought she was the mature one! Sorry to gloat.  I've just gone from not planning to watch to definitely watching!
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 1, 2020 13:12:07 GMT
And you all thought she was the mature one! Sorry to gloat. I've just gone from not planning to watch to definitely watching! Maybe she wouldn't do what they asked/ told. I won't be watching if it's true.. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 1, 2020 18:15:58 GMT
What the....well, if this is true, it's truly a "never-before-seen" moment for the franchise. It really will be the Most Dramatic Season Ever. Chris Harrison will have a field day with that.  |
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 1, 2020 19:10:56 GMT
What the....well, if this is true, it's truly a "never-before-seen" moment for the franchise. It really will be the Most Dramatic Season Ever. Chris Harrison will have a field day with that. {Spoiler}
One thing I read, was, she fell in love and saw no point in carrying on.. Maybe cuddles is right..I don't think I could sit through three hours each week, if thats what it's going to be., no matter if rumours are true or not.. |
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Post by Critical on Aug 1, 2020 19:15:02 GMT
Okay, I set up this new spoilers thread, so let's keep this stuff in here  I'm watching Reality Steve's IG Live right now. Apparently, he heard last week-ish about at least one guy who'd been eliminated before night one (they didn't go forward with all 42 guys for Clare's season) who was just contacted by production and asked if he wanted to come back. They didn't tell him WHY and he declined. RS claims that Tayshia has been out at La Quinta since this past Monday and the only reason she'd be there is because she's replacing Clare as the Bachelorette. The RS theories are that either Clare was just SO difficult that they fired her OR that she really fell in love with Dale and knew she wanted to be with him and asked to leave the show. He does think that, based on the fact that many previous leads have been difficult or divas, it's not likely they'd suddenly take a stand against Clare. SO, that means her falling in love and wanting out is more likely AND that it's possible that she's been in contact with Dale for months, since he was in the group of guys who was announced months ago. NO proof of that, BTW, just speculation. No idea why they'd make an exception and let Clare out of her contract. There are certainly other leads who would have taken that option if they were allowed. I don't know what to think, but it seems a safe bet that Clare is out and Tayhsia is the new Bachelorette. For once, Christ Harrison will be right if he levels superlatives about this season! This has never happened before! |
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 1, 2020 19:29:53 GMT
 This preshow-spoiler season stuff is more entertaining than watching the show this time.
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Post by denz on Aug 1, 2020 20:11:12 GMT
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Post by Critical on Aug 1, 2020 21:08:08 GMT
Okay, can we talk about the fact that Clare has been talking all this time about how she's grown as a person and wants to settle down with someone who wants the same things she does? he's been saying that she wants to go back to her regular life as a hair stylist in Sacramento and does not want anything to do with show business. So she now apparently wants to be with a professional model who lives in NYC? How is that going to work?  This seems like more of Clare falling fast and hard and not thinking things through, much like many women do in their early twenties. Except Clare is 39 and this guy is 8 years younger. This has disaster written all over it. I've been rooting for her, but this sounds like such bad judgment on her part. Maybe she should have just gone on Match.com or something. I forgot to add in my post above that the reason RS didn't post or tweet about the guy being recalled by production is that he didn't know what it meant. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 2, 2020 23:10:06 GMT
After nosing around a bit this afternoon online, my Sunday Evening Update:
Everyone is still talking about the situation, but no one knows what that situation is.
Everyone is still speculating about the situation based on nothing but wild guesses.
No new information.
Nobody knows a darned thing!
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 3, 2020 6:01:12 GMT
After nosing around a bit this afternoon online, my Sunday Evening Update: Everyone is still talking about the situation, but no one knows what that situation is. Everyone is still speculating about the situation based on nothing but wild guesses. No new information. Nobody knows a darned thing! Yup. There are several people who have what seem to be pieces of a puzzle, but whether or not they fit together the way people are thinking is still up for grabs. |
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Post by Critical on Aug 3, 2020 7:10:40 GMT
All of the articles are just rehashing of what we already know. I'm sure once something can be confirmed, we;ll find out. RS generally doesn't run with something - especially after the Jenna/Jordan debacle - unless he's really sure he's got the story. I just can't get over Clare (allegedly) picking a model based in NYC after all her talk of wanting to come back to Sacramento after the show is over and have a normal life with someone Also, and not to stereotype, but not only is a model, he's a former NFL player. Neither of those professions tend to attract super faithful men. If she couldn't make long distance work with a sweetheart like Benoit, how can it work with this guy? All that being said, I've love to be wrong and find out that this is her Mr. Right....and see them get married and live happily ever after. I just can't see how that will happen. |
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 3, 2020 14:00:33 GMT
Clare is as superficial as they come. Her whole backstory is a joke. She held her ground with Juan Pablo. She was fine with getting it on with Juan Pablo until Juan Pablo rejected her! Then she went back and forth during Winter Games like only a Drama Queen could. Her later acceptance of an engagement ring was just more of Clare being Clare. |
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 3, 2020 22:44:00 GMT
I cant say that I care for Tayshia. She's as phony as the relationship she was faking with whoever guy from Paradise.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Aug 3, 2020 23:58:23 GMT
I cant say that I care for Tayshia. She's as phony as the relationship she was faking with whoever guy from Paradise. John Paul Jones. I'm ambivalent about Tayshia, but I'll still be watching. |
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Post by Critical on Aug 4, 2020 1:14:05 GMT
I like Tayshia AND can totally see the appeal of JPJ. There's something sweetly charming about him. He's like a puppy dog. It's now official! Clare is out and Tayshia is in!
ETA: to quote Reality Steve, "This is getting more and more bizarre."
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Post by MissScarlet on Aug 4, 2020 3:25:09 GMT
If it's true that Clare was communicating with Dale for a while before the show & already had established a relationship, I wonder if the show will show us or tell us this. It's kind of against the rules so far as they've indicated in the past. RS is right, bizarre. As for Tayshia, I agree with amy Lee . She does seem phoney, and flighty, and kind of desperate. At least that's how she came across during & after BIP, but I'm willing to give her a chance. She's very pretty, and pleasant, and seems like a lot of fun. Plus, she's recent enough that the viewers will all remember her, and I think positively. They could have done sooooo much worse. All in all, I'm looking forward to this season, but it's already been quite the roller coaster. Who's to say how much more is coming? |
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Post by Critical on Aug 4, 2020 3:57:34 GMT
If it's true that Clare was communicating with Dale for a while before the show & already had established a relationship, I wonder if the show will show us or tell us this. It's kind of against the rules so far as they've indicated in the past.RS is right, bizarre. As for Tayshia, I agree with amy Lee . She does seem phoney, and flighty, and kind of desperate. At least that's how she came across during & after BIP, but I'm willing to give her a chance. She's very pretty, and pleasant, and seems like a lot of fun. Plus, she's recent enough that the viewers will all remember her, and I think positively. They could have done sooooo much worse. All in all, I'm looking forward to this season, but it's already been quite the roller coaster. Who's to say how much more is coming? But is it? We've heard about various folks in Bachelor Nation communicating between seasons. Remember how Nick and Caitlyn were texting (maybe more) before her season? There are other instances of the same sort of thing. They take the phones away DURING filming, but I'm not sure there are any hard and fast rules about not communicating before the season starts 
I think this specific situation is unprecedented. I mean, they generally release information about the dating pool before the season starts, it's just that after that, the season actually starts. On the Bachelor Happy Hour pocast, Clare did say that she didn't plan on looking up the guys the announced, but then curiosity got the better of her. I can't say I blame her. It's been MONTHS now.
I'd feel like the relationship between Clare and Dale was more "valid" if they were DMing/texting/calling before the show actually started filming. If not, then I don't think it has a chance in Hell.....I mean, less of a chance than if they spent more than 2 weeks getting to know each other, all while she's sifting through over 20 other guys |
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 4, 2020 4:26:15 GMT
I cant say that I care for Tayshia. She's as phony as the relationship she was faking with whoever guy from Paradise. No she's a phony, and JPJ was belching and throwing up on BIP. So not her type, they have a quota of couples to make it off that show. Even if it's a few weeks..  |
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Post by Navybelle on Aug 4, 2020 5:33:31 GMT
Ali did an interview, too, and in it implied that Clare and the guys were probably in contact w/each other beforehand. I just think it's ridiculous to just "cancel" all your obligations, disregard the contract you signed, and take off. She's a piece of work. I wonder what breaking the contract will cost her? It makes her look immature, refusing to come out of her room.  How are they going to get Tayshia COVID clear so fast? Everyone else had to be there quite awhile ago, right? If she just got to the ranch last Monday, are they really going to wait another 7 days to start her part of the show? The poor guys! I liked Tayshia a lot more before the last BIP and JPJ. Hopefully that was just a bad look, bad edit, or lapse in her regular good judgment! She comes from a military family, and things she's done off-season seemed genuinely kind. I'll enjoy watching her season, and can't wait to see how they transition from Clare to her, and how the guys react. After 12 days with Clare, I would imagine some of them will be extremely relieved Clare is gone! |
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Post by MissGriss on Aug 4, 2020 5:35:32 GMT
On their IG Live on Sunday night, Reality Steve and Ashley Spivey were speculating that Dale might have reached out to Claire after she posted about being turned off by the fact that some of the men were on Cameo. Dale and Matt James were the two who were. He might have contacted her to explain himself, and things took off from there. Who knows. Navybelle, according to RS, they're only quarantining for 7 days, and I think Tayshia's been there for four days already, she should be good to go by the end of the week. |
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Post by Critical on Aug 4, 2020 6:10:32 GMT
On their IG Live on Sunday night, Reality Steve and Ashley Spivey were speculating that Dale might have reached out to Claire after she posted about being turned off by the fact that some of the men were on Cameo. Dale and Matt James were the two who were. He might have contacted her to explain himself, and things took off from there. Who knows. Navybelle , according to RS, they're only quarantining for 7 days, and I think Tayshia's been there for four days already, she should be good to go by the end of the week. In his IG Live yesterday, RS said his sources said Tayshia arrived at La Quinta on Monday, so she's been there for a week already. It was a week (plus) ago Saturday that Clare pitched her fit and canceled the dates/refused to leave her room. He speculated that she could be filming as early as today.
Yeah, I don't know why Clare is suddenly allowed to break her contract when other leads surely would have left early if they could have. Maybe the rumors about her being a diva factor into that too? If she was being a real pain in the a$$, maybe they decided it wouldn't get any better and thought, with only two weeks of film in the can, they could just bring in another lead rather than deal with Clare for another X-many weeks.
I'm definitely not faulting Clare for her taste - Dale is HOT. It just seems like she's doing what a lot of guys do - pick the hot girl with the big boobs (obviously, there are exceptions). She's definitely doing what a lot of young girls do.
I guess I'll be in the minority. I like Tayshia and was actually bummed when the cast Hannah instead. I don't think she's phony
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 4, 2020 13:11:31 GMT
Ali did an interview, too, and in it implied that Clare and the guys were probably in contact w/each other beforehand. I just think it's ridiculous to just "cancel" all your obligations, disregard the contract you signed, and take off. She's a piece of work. I wonder what breaking the contract will cost her? It makes her look immature, refusing to come out of her room. How are they going to get Tayshia COVID clear so fast? Everyone else had to be there quite awhile ago, right? If she just got to the ranch last Monday, are they really going to wait another 7 days to start her part of the show? The poor guys! I liked Tayshia a lot more before the last BIP and JPJ. Hopefully that was just a bad look, bad edit, or lapse in her regular good judgment! She comes from a military family, and things she's done off-season seemed genuinely kind. I'll enjoy watching her season, and can't wait to see how they transition from Clare to her, and how the guys react. After 12 days with Clare, I would imagine some of them will be extremely relieved Clare is gone!  All you said. I thought on BIP , Tayshia changed, and not for the better( too thirsty) she's a beautiful woman, who looks quite stunning in anything she wears. But BIP definitely turned me off. |
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Post by Critical on Aug 5, 2020 0:13:20 GMT
According to this and a number of other articles I've seen, it does look like Clare was communicating with Dale prior to the start of production.
Also according to this article Tayshia is already filming.
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Post by Amy Lee on Aug 5, 2020 1:06:10 GMT
Since she jumped in feet first, I hope for her sake it works out. For all intents and purposes, she "online" dated some guy and finally met him in person.
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Post by DoodleMom921 on Aug 5, 2020 2:21:58 GMT
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And you all thought she was the mature one! Sorry to gloat. 
This preshow-spoiler season stuff is more entertaining than watching the show this time.
This seems like more of Clare falling fast and hard and not thinking things through, much like many women do in their early twenties. Except Clare is 39 and this guy is 8 years younger. This has disaster written all over it. I've been rooting for her, but this sounds like such bad judgment on her part. 
All you said. I thought on BIP , Tayshia changed, and not for the better( too thirsty) she's a beautiful woman, who looks quite stunning in anything she wears. But BIP definitely turned me off.