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Post by justCoz on Dec 12, 2020 5:01:36 GMT
I am disliking this season more and more. Hate the big alliance. While I admit that it has been VERY effective at eliminating other teams, it has done so in a very nasty and vicious way. Also in a very illogical way. In the past, people used u-turns and yields to try to get rid of stronger teams. This season teams were targeted simply because they were not "one of us". It also seems like this season has a LOT of yields and u-turns; a lot of negative tools. If they want to continue that, they should consider adding in more positive tools to help balance out the negative ones. Perhaps let each team start the race with one fast forward or express pass. Or maybe limit how the u-turns are used; maybe each team can only use a u-turn once, or disallow knowingly using the 2nd of a double u-turn on a team you know is already ahead just to block another team from using it. I like your fast forward idea. In the early seasons of the race they had a FF on every leg so someone in the back could potentially get themselves out of a hole. They had to do a task, which I think ended up being too expensive to set up for a task that may or may not happen, and only one team could use it. For a long time they switched to FFs only being a couple a season but they didn't have any this season. It used to be more about getting yourself ahead. I think all the yields and U-turns instead of FF made the race more cutthroat. I also don't like it as much for that reason. However, if they did give teams one FF pass to be used to skip a task or two but with a time penalty of half hour, or however long those FF tasks used to be, then they would have one chance to pull themselves out of the bottom. That's a positive way to race, not a negative way. I don't remember, did the FF let them skip both tasks, or did it depend on the individual leg of the race? It seems like it was both, but I just can't recall. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:38:36 GMT
I couldn't believe that this late in the race they were all screwing up because they didn't read the clue correctly! Have they learned nothing! This task went on forever, and they probably had the right countries fairly close to the beginning but put them in the wrong order because they didn't read the clue. Sigh! It will be interesting for D'Angelo and Gary to watch the show back and realize why the other teams excluded them. I'm guessing they will be surprised to discover that it wasn't because they were threatened by them. I actually like the final three teams, and I'm glad that they are there; but I do think that this alliance approach has changed the game forever and not in a good way.  The finale should be interesting, though, with three such strong teams competing. I have no idea who will win. It's always such a crap shoot, anyway, with all the things that could go wrong. There have been alliances in the past they just never ever held together like this one. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:47:06 GMT
Can't say I am sad to see Deangelo and Gary (NFL Team) eliminated.
Sore loser much Deangelo?
I do think he is the first person EVER to day he didn't like the Amazing Race.
Did you really expect someone to help you in the last leg that would determine who placed in the final three?
Deangelo you always asked for help, when did you give any?
What is incredibly funny is how nasty Deangelo was to Ashwar baiting him during the tile making challenge and he blew U-Turning that team as game play but he sure didn't like it when the other teams game played him.
I was wondering when anyone would reread the clue during that last challenge.
What is ironic considering how long that challenge took (anyone know), if NFL took the penalty early I could see them beating the other teams to the mat.
At this point I am good for any of the remaining teams to win with a slight emphasis on the Beard Bros and Hung and Chee with the Boyfriends coming in third.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:49:00 GMT
I really, really hope they can do something to squash this alliance crap in future seasons. Watching teams walk over and literally give other teams the answers so they can eliminate another team is NOT what this show is about and it's not fun to watch. No wonder this season sat on the shelf for a while.It was due to COVID as if was filmed before the pandemic and was originally scheduled to air during the summer but got pulled and put in Survivors usual fall spot. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:50:32 GMT
I have not enjoyed this season. There were too many yields too many U turns too many twists and too many alliances. The premiere seemed very promising but it really went downhill after that . The Amazing Race doesn’t need alliances, like people have helped each other in past seasons but this season was way over the top with alliances . Of the F3 teams I hope Hung and Chee win. Even though they were in that alliance I do still like them. They have been around forever in this game, this is just the first time it held together to the final three. Which is amazing. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:52:04 GMT
We think Phil tried , when they got to the pitstop, if anyone can see a difference in this show, it's him.. It wasn't a good season, and I really don't care who wins.. Due to COVID and all tv production being shut down. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:53:13 GMT
Maybe that is why it was delayed to air this time. We kept wondering when it would be on, not worth it. Yeah. I was wondering if they wanted to get several more seasons filmed before anyone saw this and got any ideas of taking the same approach. They have been doing alliances on this show for years it is not a new concept, it just worked for once. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:56:31 GMT
Yeesh DeAngelo, what an A-hat for being such a sore loser. Nice of him to point out how rich he is. Boo! I can almost feel what he is saying tho... This was one of the worst seasons for me, granted I never saw the first season and all, but I hated the alliance and I hated how much hate they spewed. I think that DeAngelo felt that, and I cannot blame him for his bitterness. I am glad that Gary had a good time, I liked him. I wish the blonde sisters went further they were my faves. I hate to say it but I am sure the boyfriends win, and that would be the worst for me. The only thing that can clam is that they put together an alliance, and frankly without them I do not think they would have done as well. I wanted to like Hung and Chee but lord, she started to get on my nerves and her reaction of 'thank gawd' at the end or whatever it was in regards to the NFLers clinched it for me. I guess I hope the brothers win, they were not AS bad as the rest. Good on Phil for trying to point things out them, and being in your face about it.. I hope the next season is better this one left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly due to the boyfriends. Any real hate that was spewed was by the Boyfriends, they said some very nasty stuff about Leo and Alana and actively strategized to eliminate them at every opportunity and I think they are also behind the elimination of the Blondes. Never heard any hate from the other teams. |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 12, 2020 20:58:43 GMT
I am disliking this season more and more. Hate the big alliance. While I admit that it has been VERY effective at eliminating other teams, it has done so in a very nasty and vicious way. Also in a very illogical way. In the past, people used u-turns and yields to try to get rid of stronger teams. This season teams were targeted simply because they were not "one of us". It also seems like this season has a LOT of yields and u-turns; a lot of negative tools. If they want to continue that, they should consider adding in more positive tools to help balance out the negative ones. Perhaps let each team start the race with one fast forward or express pass. Or maybe limit how the u-turns are used; maybe each team can only use a u-turn once, or disallow knowingly using the 2nd of a double u-turn on a team you know is already ahead just to block another team from using it.That would be a good change and would have forced the Beard Bros to either not use a UTurn or use it on one of their alliance. |
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Post by holly on Dec 12, 2020 23:52:14 GMT
Yeesh DeAngelo, what an A-hat for being such a sore loser. Nice of him to point out how rich he is. Boo! I can almost feel what he is saying tho... This was one of the worst seasons for me, granted I never saw the first season and all, but I hated the alliance and I hated how much hate they spewed. I think that DeAngelo felt that, and I cannot blame him for his bitterness. I am glad that Gary had a good time, I liked him. I wish the blonde sisters went further they were my faves. I hate to say it but I am sure the boyfriends win, and that would be the worst for me. The only thing that can clam is that they put together an alliance, and frankly without them I do not think they would have done as well. I wanted to like Hung and Chee but lord, she started to get on my nerves and her reaction of 'thank gawd' at the end or whatever it was in regards to the NFLers clinched it for me. I guess I hope the brothers win, they were not AS bad as the rest. Good on Phil for trying to point things out them, and being in your face about it.. I hope the next season is better this one left a bad taste in my mouth, mostly due to the boyfriends. The boyfriends are the WORST! I didn't like them from the first episode. So catty & nasty towards the teams they didn't like for one reason or another. The way they held a grudge against Leo & Alana was beyond reason, & then had the audacity to be bitchy because they didn't like Leo's attitude (what attitude? because he was a lot nicer than I would've been) when he HELPED them move the damn car that Mr. "I know how to drive a stick" couldn't get into gear. I was so hoping to see them eliminated this past week. My worst case scenario is if they win.  |
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 13, 2020 0:22:00 GMT
I have to agree, I don't like them either, they have such a mean streak.
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Post by MissGriss on Dec 13, 2020 0:51:09 GMT
Can't say I am sad to see Deangelo and Gary (NFL Team) eliminated. Sore loser much Deangelo? I do think he is the first person EVER to day he didn't like the Amazing Race. Did you really expect someone to help you in the last leg that would determine who placed in the final three? Deangelo you always asked for help, when did you give any? What is incredibly funny is how nasty Deangelo was to Ashwar baiting him during the tile making challenge and he blew U-Turning that team as game play but he sure didn't like it when the other teams game played him. I was wondering when anyone would reread the clue during that last challenge. What is ironic considering how long that challenge took (anyone know), if NFL took the penalty early I could see them beating the other teams to the mat. At this point I am good for any of the remaining teams to win with a slight emphasis on the Beard Bros and Hung and Chee with the Boyfriends coming in third. I think in the article about the NFL players it said that, before taking the penalty, they had worked on the puzzle for over 3 hours, maybe 3 1/2, and knew that they would never get it (which they probably wouldn't have, given that they didn't realize France was one of the countries--apparently, they never noticed any music during the challenge there). |
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 13, 2020 17:11:05 GMT
I have read a couple of other reviews of this episode and in the comments section people are mainly furious that an alliance eliminated the NFL Team and how unfair it was and how the remaining three teams are all cheaters and how it should not be allowed and it the entire season was biased toward the Boyfriends strengths as there were so many puzzles.
Why do people forget that the NFL Team was in an alliance, the Mine Five whose sole goal was to eliminate the other teams and make sure they are the 5 remaining teams.
What did folks think would happen then?
In my humble opinion the NFL team is just as guilty as the final three.
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Post by FannyMare on Dec 13, 2020 18:35:08 GMT
At this point, I guess don't care. Helping one another, now and then is fine,the constant "who goes next," spoilt AR for me. They we're usually chosen by Will and James.
I'll get over it, because I love the travel( especially Cambodia But if future teams start thinking this is a great idea( how to end up the F3,) I guess I'll forget to watch.
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Post by Bearcata on Dec 13, 2020 21:23:50 GMT
The Amazing Race has always been a joy for me and while in recent years I haven't enjoyed it as much I think part of that especially for this season were the teams. They just seemed so bland personality wise and then even in the first leg many seemed so lost and incompetent and than in later legs there simply no up or down moment with any of the teams and it was a rather boring season.
I hope it is an exciting finale.
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Post by jsciv on Dec 21, 2020 19:28:28 GMT
I have not enjoyed this season. There were too many yields too many U turns too many twists and too many alliances. The premiere seemed very promising but it really went downhill after that . The Amazing Race doesn’t need alliances, like people have helped each other in past seasons but this season was way over the top with alliances . They have been around forever in this game, this is just the first time it held together to the final three. Which is amazing. Late to the party, I know, but thanks for saying that a few times Bearcata. That was my thought too. They don't often play up the alliances in the final edit (much like they drop a lot of other things on the editing floor), but there have been alliances before and it really is that the alliance worked that is so unusual. Like many I'm not a fan of an alliance-heavy race as a future thing (and I'm sure a few rules tweaks could suppress them, though you can never eliminate them), but I didn't mind seeing one work out since it was such a different dynamic. |
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