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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Aug 30, 2018 5:44:27 GMT
Very sad indeed. He fought hard. Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk My father passed away from glioblastoma a couple of weeks ago. I remember when he was diagnosed I said its the same thing McCain has. My dad was only a couple of years younger than him but they caught it too late. He had surgery but would never have made it through treatment. He didn't even live 4 months after diagnosis. When I heard he stopped treatment and wasn't speaking..... I was reminded of what we went through the last month. At a certain point, you pray for them to be at peace. My mom died from emphysema and my dad from a stroke and I certainly can relate to just wishing that the end will be as painless and peaceful as possible. My condolences.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 30, 2018 7:40:43 GMT
I really like the Huntsman family in general, and like Abby, but i was disappointed in this. I just don't see that much difference between Abby and Meghan. So if The View is supposed to be a show that is about different women of different ages and walks of life all coming together, why have two on the panel who are just the same?
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 30, 2018 11:36:57 GMT
I think I may have an answer for you, acookertv. I think it is quite possible that either Meghan or her mom will want to carry on John McCain's work, and by that I mean, I think either one of them or both of them will run for some type of office. In other words, maybe Meghan has told ABC that she has bigger fish she wants to fry.
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Post by acookertv on Aug 30, 2018 12:47:16 GMT
I think I may have an answer for you, acookertv. I think it is quite possible that either Meghan or her mom will want to carry on John McCain's work, and by that I mean, I think either one of them or both of them will run for some type of office. In other words, maybe Meghan has told ABC that she has bigger fish she wants to fry. I guess that's possible. However, Meghan has already confirmed she's signed on to The View for another year. I realize that her father has passed away since she signed. However, at the time she signed for another year, she pretty much knew what was happening with her father, so it's not like his was an unexpected death that would have suddenly changed everything for her. So it appears that we'll have both Meghan and Abby. It will be nice to have a second conservative voice, and that may be helpful for Meghan to not feel like she's carrying the entire party on her shoulders. I just wish they'd found a conservative who has a different walk of life than Meghan. Part of the reason I liked Ana Navaro so much as a compliment to Meghan was that she had a very different story being a Hispanic immigrant from south Florida who had worked as a political staffer and had those insights - but insights that were different from Meghan. I also liked that in the two of them we had one conservative voice who was walking away from the Republican party and another one who was remaining loyal to the party, because that represents conservative voices in the country right now.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 30, 2018 12:56:20 GMT
I really like the Huntsman family in general, and like Abby, but i was disappointed in this. I just don't see that much difference between Abby and Meghan. So if The View is supposed to be a show that is about different women of different ages and walks of life all coming together, why have two on the panel who are just the same? I was never a Navarro fan, so i'm interested to see how this works out.Abby sounds very smart, and I believe the view wanted someone younger to replace dear Sara...
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 30, 2018 13:22:33 GMT
My father passed away from glioblastoma a couple of weeks ago. I remember when he was diagnosed I said its the same thing McCain has. My dad was only a couple of years younger than him but they caught it too late. He had surgery but would never have made it through treatment. He didn't even live 4 months after diagnosis. When I heard he stopped treatment and wasn't speaking..... I was reminded of what we went through the last month. At a certain point, you pray for them to be at peace. I'm so very sorry for the loss of your father, I'm reaching through my screen, to give you a hug. Thank you so much.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 30, 2018 14:44:06 GMT
Her dad was our governor here in Utah and was well-liked by both conservatives and liberals. I was very disappointed when President Obama made him ambassador to China, because we lost a good governor. He was definitely qualified for the ambassador job, but he also was getting a lot of national attention and might have been a viable presidential candidate for the Republicans against Obama in his second run, and I felt that appointment was Obama's way of getting him out of circulation. I kind of got side-tracked there, but what I wanted to say is that she comes from strong Republican roots but in a family that has historically been able to work well across the political divide, so I'm thinking she would be a good addition to the panel. I sure hope you're right, Miss_Griss! Although, Meghan McCain's father also came "from strong Republican roots... in a family that has historically been able to work well across the political divide" -- but (to me) his daughter, Meghan was NOT a good addition to the panel.
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 30, 2018 15:24:13 GMT
Her dad was our governor here in Utah and was well-liked by both conservatives and liberals. I was very disappointed when President Obama made him ambassador to China, because we lost a good governor. He was definitely qualified for the ambassador job, but he also was getting a lot of national attention and might have been a viable presidential candidate for the Republicans against Obama in his second run, and I felt that appointment was Obama's way of getting him out of circulation. I kind of got side-tracked there, but what I wanted to say is that she comes from strong Republican roots but in a family that has historically been able to work well across the political divide, so I'm thinking she would be a good addition to the panel. I sure hope you're right, Miss_Griss! Although, Meghan McCain's father also came "from strong Republican roots... in a family that has historically been able to work well across the political divide" -- but (to me) his daughter, Meghan was NOT a good addition to the panel. I wasn't keen on her at first, but I grew to like her, flaws and all. It's obvious the ladies are able to leave politics behind, and enjoy one another off the show...
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Post by betty80 on Sept 5, 2018 12:10:14 GMT
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Post by acookertv on Sept 5, 2018 12:18:33 GMT
There is something about this story that feels like life imitating art. If back in the day the Cosby show had an episode where Elvin took a job at Trader Joes and was shamed for it, it would have fit with his character. It's a shame that someone was tone deaf enough to make this a story to begin with, but I think it's great that so many came to support him, and that he was brave enough to express how he feels about it. It's a great example of the idea that "There is always something about another person we're ignorant of, and usually the thing we're ignorant of is the most important". People who commented negatively about him working at Trader Joes had no way of knowing if he was working their because he needed the money, because he was bored and wanted something to do, was researching a role, or anything else.
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Post by Amy Lee on Sept 5, 2018 13:28:28 GMT
This seriously reminds me to continue on the track of not being so judgmental. People forget that. It doesn't matter whether you know someone's situation or not, don't be so eager to judge. And I totes enjoy shopping at Trader Joe's.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 5, 2018 13:40:56 GMT
This seriously reminds me to continue on the track of not being so judgmental. People forget that. It doesn't matter whether you know someone's situation or not, don't be so eager to judge. And I totes enjoy shopping at Trader Joe's. Why can't people remember (and live by) ??? The proverb: There but for the grace of God, go I" and The golden rule: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you"
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Post by drsmith on Sept 5, 2018 14:01:44 GMT
There is something about this story that feels like life imitating art. If back in the day the Cosby show had an episode where Elvin took a job at Trader Joes and was shamed for it, it would have fit with his character. It's a shame that someone was tone deaf enough to make this a story to begin with, but I think it's great that so many came to support him, and that he was brave enough to express how he feels about it. It's a great example of the idea that "There is always something about another person we're ignorant of, and usually the thing we're ignorant of is the most important". People who commented negatively about him working at Trader Joes had no way of knowing if he was working their because he needed the money, because he was bored and wanted something to do, was researching a role, or anything else. There was the story line where Sondra and Elvin were going to quit school and open a camping store. I think there was some shaming going on there because Sondra was giving up being a lawyer from Princeton to do the camping store. So, yeah, kind of similar. As far as the shaming of the actor for working in Trader Joe's, the person who took the pictures needs to mind their own dang business. Whether he's rich or poor or somewhere in between, he's free to work anywhere he wants to work. He's contributing to society, not taking from it. How that became something to shame people about, I have no clue.
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Post by Kao on Sept 5, 2018 14:01:49 GMT
Lots of working actors have side gigs like waitress, bartender, working in stores, etc between gigs; the ones making a million+ for roles are actually a small minority. Not only does TJ pay well for retail, they also have excellent benefits and everone who works at my local one seems like they're having fun so it's not a horrible place to work.
The photographer's wife actually works at that TJ location as a security guard, and they have access to the staff's names, etc. So it seems like she recognized either him or his name and decided to have some "fun" (and make a little money, since they sold the pics to the Daily Mail) at his expense. I hope she got fired. What a vile thing to do to someone just living their life. This reminds me a lot of when people found out that Hairspray star Nikki Blonsky was working in a hair salon. She got shamed for that as well.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 5, 2018 14:02:29 GMT
I just thought of one other detail about this story ... the Cosby Show used to run in a lot of places, which would have meant residual checks for the actors on it. After Cosby's mess, the show was wiped off most of the places that ran it. It's slowly come back to a few, but that drastic change could have had a big impact on people who got those checks regularly. I've never really understood the belief that once a person does something bad we can't watch any work they've done in the past, so I admit I have a bias there. Trader Joes is a cool place to work. I can see why someone would want to work there just to be around people and be exposed to cool foods and wines. But if he's working there because he needs the money, it's quite possible that America's absolutist need to destroy anything associated with bad people may have played a hand in it.
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Post by Kao on Sept 5, 2018 14:10:26 GMT
If you ask me, it says more about the people doing the shaming. Personally, I pay close attention to how new people in my life treat waitstaff, clerks in stores, etc and either open up more or not associate with you at all. Someone like that is not someone I want in my life.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 5, 2018 14:14:20 GMT
If you ask me, it says more about the people doing the shaming. Personally, I pay close attention to how new people in my life treat waitstaff, clerks in stores, etc and either open up more or not associate with you at all. Someone like that is not someone I want in my life. Completely agree! Many years ago, I went on a first date to dinner with a guy on a blind date. It was the first time I'd ever met him, and noticed right away that he barked at the wait staff and expected them to cater to his ever need. We never went on a second date, and I have no idea where he is now.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 5, 2018 15:28:48 GMT
ITA with you, Kao and acookertv .... what is wrong with killing those in the service fields with KINDNESS. My hubby flies all month long (for work) with Alaska Air (he is MVP GOLD) and always gets upgraded to First Class. He always grabs the upgrade when flying alone as I do not fly anywhere near as much as he does. So he declines the upgrade when we fly together. Anyway, the other day we were flying home from Boston to LAX and we both got the upgrade. I cannot tell you how demanding those were sitting in First Class. Quite frankly it made me uncomfortable. Calling the Stewardess for nonsense things constantly and NEVER did I hear a TY from anyone. It's like this " I am in First Class because I am important" attitude. Geez. I try to say TY daily to those in service positions helping me or assisting all.of.the.time. It's just the small things like that that put a smile on someone's face. We are our kiddos role models and if they see us do it, they will do it too.
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Post by MissGriss on Sept 5, 2018 16:28:20 GMT
The thing that made me maddest about that person selling the photos of the actor working at TJ's was that all of that attention made it impossible for him to stay in his job.
Assuming that he needed the money, the selfish photographer took away someone's livelihood just to make some cash. What a horrid person!
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 5, 2018 19:46:21 GMT
The thing that made me maddest about that person selling the photos of the actor working at TJ's was that all of that attention made it impossible for him to stay in his job. Assuming that he needed the money, the selfish photographer took away someone's livelihood just to make some cash. What a horrid person! Awful. Disgusting behavior.
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 5, 2018 20:07:01 GMT
I heard on some show or read or whatever, that the photo snapper was a female security guard at the store who thought it would be fun to sell it for money. I believe the following paragraph said she is now a former security guard.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 5, 2018 20:08:19 GMT
I heard on some show or read or whatever, that the photo snapper was a female security guard at the store who thought it would be fun to sell it for money. I believe the following paragraph said she is now a former security guard. ArielfliesMeaning she was FIRED?
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Post by Kao on Sept 6, 2018 0:46:36 GMT
I heard that the security guard was the wife of the woman who actually took the pictures. Either way, I hope she got fired and he got transferred to another store.
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Post by waywyrd on Sept 6, 2018 1:11:27 GMT
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Post by betty80 on Sept 6, 2018 1:35:41 GMT
Oh boy! She thought talking to him would embarrass him, but decides to take and release photos. She regrets the backlash. I saw the Daily Mail article and it included her picture. She wanted fame. Too bad I don't watch the OWN channel. I don't even know if I have it. I would like to support him. There are some actors that seem like jerks. He seems nice.
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Post by Critical on Sept 6, 2018 1:59:23 GMT
Does anyone have article links about that woman being a TJ's security guard / wife of a TJ's security guard? I can't find anything about that. Regardless, shame on her for posting that pic of him. It was thoughtless and she treated him like a circus animal, the way many people treat celebs. I'm glad he's had so many people coming to his defense (and shaming the photographer), but it sucks that he felt he needed to quit his job. As many have pointed out, Trader Joe's is well known for being a great place to work - good pay, good benefits, nice co-workers and bosses, flexible hours, etc. I've tried many times to get hired on there, but the ones near me are rarely hiring, and for good reason!
Like others have pointed out, MANY actors work multiple jobs to pay the bills. The ones who make big money are the minority. The rest are working actors - and that could mean working as an actor or it could mean working while being an actor. IIRC, the health insurance through SAG-AFTRA is very good, but there's a minimum amount you have to earn in a year to qualify. There are more actors than you'd think who have to scramble to make that amount. The last I heard someone talk about it, which was a number of years ago, admittedly, the amount was $2500.
It reminds me of how certain people like to dismissively say, "Get a job," but when someone is actually DOING a job, they get condescending remarks because that job isn't "good enough." Screw those people. If you work hard and do a job well, that's a helluva lot more admirable that those a-holes who look down on you because they see the job as beneath them. Those are the same people who are rude to service workers - a sure sign of weak character, IMO. While GO did say that he didn't want anyone just offering him jobs because of this - he'd rather be offered auditions - I hope he takes Tyler Perry up on his offer! I always liked GO on Cosby and have enjoyed his work in various guest spots he's done over the years.
I love that Geoffrey wore his TJ's name tag on GMA!
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 6, 2018 2:38:30 GMT
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Post by Critical on Sept 6, 2018 3:16:20 GMT
That's the story I've seen from various news sources. I'd hope it wasn't an employee. That woman is a clueless jerk, BTW: “I figured everybody does it." Yes, everyone else takes pictures of strangers and posts them on the internet without their knowledge and permission. Creep. I've seen famous people out and about and it's never occurred to me to sneak pictures of them while they're out living their lives. I don't know, it just seems rude to me I wouldn't want people to do that to me if I was famous. If someone is at a public event like a movie premiere or an appearance, that's one thing, but snapping a pic of someone in the CVS with no makeup on while buying condoms or something is just rude.
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Post by Kao on Sept 6, 2018 14:22:36 GMT
For what it's worth, I read the "wife of the TJ security guard" story on another forum. I hope it was a random shopper, because someone planning with their partner to shame someone they work with is despicable.
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Post by acookertv on Sept 6, 2018 14:33:41 GMT
If the story behind the picture is that a woman was shopping there, recognized him, took the picture and shared it, then while I think what happened is a shame, I also think it's a shame that she's being blasted in the way she is. If that's what she did, it isn't right, but she's certainly not the only one to do it. From celebrities I follow closely, I know that it's quite common for people to spot a celebrity out and about and snap a picture and share it. While i appreciate that people see that as an invasion, and I don't do it myself when I see a celebrity (saw Fisher Stevens last week but people have to take my word for it because I didn't take a picture) others get excited about the moment and want proof. But I think it's unfortunately also very common for people to take pictures of non-famous for the purpose of making fun of them. I've seen A LOT of pictures posted that people take where ever they are to make fun of the clothes a person is wearing, ugly shoes, bad hair, etc. Some think they are being respectful by not showing the person's face ... but they are still taking and posting a picture for the purpose of making fun of a stranger. So instead of targeting the person and ripping her apart, I wish we'd all recognize that taking a picture for the purpose of making fun of someone isn't a good thing - regardless of who the person is.
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