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Post by acookertv on Apr 17, 2019 20:20:57 GMT
They don't need the entire public ... just 12 jurors. And Casey Anthony is proof that sympathy / likability is not necessary from a jury.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 17, 2019 20:23:44 GMT
Lori and he husband have careers that are more dependent on public acceptance and approval.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 17, 2019 20:25:39 GMT
Lori and he husband have careers that are more dependent on public acceptance and approval. True. But they have enough money in the bank now that they don't have to have public acceptance anymore.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 17, 2019 20:30:56 GMT
Lori and he husband have careers that are more dependent on public acceptance and approval. True. But they have enough money in the bank now that they don't have to have public acceptance anymore. They had to use their house to meet bail and news stories say they are having to sell furniture. Many people have the image of being very wealthy but are not as wealthy as they seem. I doubt they have enough savings to carry them through the rest of their lives in the manner they are accustomed. They have also raised one daughter who craves public acceptance. I'm sure it runs in the family. We can go back and forth on this or agree to disagree.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 17, 2019 21:48:16 GMT
They don't need the entire public ... just 12 jurors. And Casey Anthony is proof that sympathy / likability is not necessary from a jury. I followed that trial from day one. When they said 'not guilty' I actually cried. THIS case struck deep at your emotions. WHO ELSE KILLED THAT ADORABLE DOLL, CAYLEE????
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 17, 2019 21:54:09 GMT
True. But they have enough money in the bank now that they don't have to have public acceptance anymore. They had to use their house to meet bail and news stories say they are having to sell furniture. Many people have the image of being very wealthy but are not as wealthy as they seem. I doubt they have enough savings to carry them through the rest of their lives in the manner they are accustomed. They have also raised one daughter who craves public acceptance. I'm sure it runs in the family. We can go back and forth on this or agree to disagree. I saw pics on TMZ LIVE of furniture being hauled out of their house. So that is what they were doing is selling off valuables to pay for all their HORRID DECISIONS? WOW. How the MIGHTY fall..........here take my couch, my pillows, my lamp.........gawd. BOSTON (my hometown) JUDGES ARE NOTORIOUSLY TOUGH..........LL and hubby better get them arses to church and light some candles for themselves. The Controversial Massachusetts Federal Judge In 'Varsity Blues'www.forbes.com/sites/walterpavlo/2019/04/12/the-controversial-massachusetts-federal-judge-in-varsity-blues/#3d290977dccf
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Post by Imperfect1 on Apr 17, 2019 23:50:40 GMT
They don't need the entire public ... just 12 jurors. And Casey Anthony is proof that sympathy / likability is not necessary from a jury. And just for the record, they won't necessarily come before a jury. Their cases can be heard by a judge only, with no jury.
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Post by Critical on Apr 18, 2019 16:39:15 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 18, 2019 16:44:22 GMT
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Post by JustJuls on Apr 18, 2019 17:27:34 GMT
I love it. And it would probably take quite awhile.
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 18, 2019 18:24:14 GMT
Pretty sure most of them would never get out!
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Post by Critical on Apr 18, 2019 19:20:40 GMT
Right? If LL and her husband were reliant on their daughters getting perfect SAT scores, they'd be serving life sentences! LL's behavior in this situation certainly explains her daughters' behavior (or at least Olivia's, since we haven't seen much from Isabella). Entitled parents raise entitled children.
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Post by dagwood on Apr 18, 2019 19:20:42 GMT
True. But they have enough money in the bank now that they don't have to have public acceptance anymore. They had to use their house to meet bail and news stories say they are having to sell furniture. Many people have the image of being very wealthy but are not as wealthy as they seem. I doubt they have enough savings to carry them through the rest of their lives in the manner they are accustomed. They have also raised one daughter who craves public acceptance. I'm sure it runs in the family. We can go back and forth on this or agree to disagree. Don't forget they have to pay their attorneys. I can't imagine they are cheap.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 19, 2019 18:40:43 GMT
Lori Loughlin's friends 'do not like her husband and think he is to blame for landing her in college bribery scandal' as it's revealed the couple will be audited by the IRS as well as facing criminal charges"Lori Loughlin's friends think her husband Mossimo 'concocted' their involvement in college bribery scheme the pair are now facing jail time over, it has been claimed. The actress and her husband, fashion mogul Mossimo Giannulli, are facing 40 years in prison for allegedly paying $500,000 to get their daughters into USC. They have said they plan to plead not guilty to the charges of mail fraud. Now, the pair are being audited by the IRS along with the other parents who have been arrested as part of the scandal. Sources told US Weekly the IRS will audit their personal taxes for the last five years in addition to Mossimmo's business taxes for the last three years. According to authorities, they paid $500,000 to a fictitious charitable foundation set up by William Rick Singer, the 'mastermind' of the scheme. The payments were written off as being tact deductible, meaning the couple benefited hugely from it. They will likely have to repay it in addition to penalties if convicted. Loughlin has not made a public statement since she was arrested with her husband last month. Friends have described her as being 'desperate' for her daughters, Isabella and Olivia Jade, to get into the school and say she was 'fixated on it'. But other friends said they thought it was her husband who pieced it together. Everyone feels bad for her. They think the situation was something concocted by her husband,' another friend told US Weekly. It remains unclear whether the girls knew the alleged lengths their parents went to to get them in. Prosecutors say they faked athlete profiles for them to make college officials believe they were talented rowers in order to get a spot. Authorities are investigating whether or not they should also face charges and are paying particular attention to one of the girls but it is not clear which. Felicity Huffman, who paid $15,000 for someone to alter her daughter's college entrance exam score to get her in, has admitted her role. She is now facing between four and 10 months behind bars but is yet to be sentenced. Giannulli faked his own education and pocketed the hundreds of thousands of dollars his parents gave him for tuition. In a 2016 interview, he boasted: 'I used to have hundreds of thousands of cash in my top drawer in my fraternity house. 'And I was like, "this is kind of too easy. I need a bigger platform. If I had a bigger account base, I could really kill it.""
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 19, 2019 19:52:17 GMT
I think LL and her husband and their "friends" should just be quiet. Lay low. And not keep talking to the media. So are we to all think LL is not to blame for any of this and she should walk free???? I mean both LL and their daughters were all in on it together. I believe the courts have both of them on recordings with RS. This does seem like it's snowballing for them. Now the IRS is going back 5 years and auditing their taxes as well as the husband business. See I think if they did what FH did and OWNED their poor behavior and kept a low profile maybe things would not be unraveling for them like they are. I mean they are basically in the News daily. We hear almost nothing coming from FH and her family. Taking a spot away from a talented rower on the USC Crew team is despicable.
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Post by Critical on Apr 19, 2019 21:25:33 GMT
I literally read a blind item about that story yesterday and the implication was that LL was behind her friends slamming her husband. Apparently, it’s an attempt to distance her from him and make it look like this was all his idea. Sounds like a real solid marriage These are not nice people.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 19, 2019 23:06:47 GMT
I literally read a blind item about that story yesterday and the implication was that LL was behind her friends slamming her husband. Apparently, it’s an attempt to distance her from him and make it look like this was all his idea. Sounds like a real solid marriage These are not nice people. Weird. Bizarre. Because all the pics I have seen online (before the fraud) make them look like a very happy couple. So is this another 'scam' .... FAKE OUT the Judge? " It was ALLLLL him, Judge, REALLLLLY." #blah
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 19, 2019 23:24:09 GMT
Aunt Becky with the bad heir: Lori Loughlin's daughter Olivia Jade parties at the $3M Hollywood Hills home of a YouTube star while her mom faces 40 years in prison and millions in tax fineswww.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6940587/Lori-Loughlins-daughters-Olivia-Jade-Bella-party-3M-Hollywood-home-parents-face-jail.html They are ALLLLLLL in this together. " Olivia knowingly had Singer's team fill out her college applications according to the complaint.
'On or about December 12, 2017, Loughlin e-mailed [Singer], copying Giannulli and their younger daughter [Olivia], to request guidance on how to complete the formal USC application, in the wake of her daughter’s provisional acceptance as a recruited athlete,' states the complaint.
'Loughlin wrote: "[Our younger daughter] has not submitted all her colleges [sic] apps and is confused on how to do so. I want to make sure she gets those in as I don’t want to call any attention to [her] with our little friend at [her high school]. Can you tell us how to proceed?"'
In response, Singer wrote an email 'directing an employee to submit the applications on behalf of the Giannullis’ younger daughter [Olivia]."
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 20, 2019 0:58:17 GMT
I literally read a blind item about that story yesterday and the implication was that LL was behind her friends slamming her husband. Apparently, it’s an attempt to distance her from him and make it look like this was all his idea. Sounds like a real solid marriage These are not nice people. Yeah. I figured she was behind it and thought it was interesting that she was so willing to throw him under the bus.
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Post by lonnie on Apr 20, 2019 22:29:33 GMT
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Post by justCoz on Apr 21, 2019 3:21:32 GMT
See I think if they did what FH did and OWNED their poor behavior and kept a low profile maybe things would not be unraveling for them like they are. I agree. From what I've read it seems like the ones who took the plea deals are like FH and looking at prison in lengths of months, not years. The ones who didn't take the plea deals got hit with more charges the very next day, much more serious charges and prison terms in lengths of years. I wonder if those plea deals are looking better in hindsight, especially if they start digging deeper into their tax returns.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Apr 21, 2019 5:06:21 GMT
See I think if they did what FH did and OWNED their poor behavior and kept a low profile maybe things would not be unraveling for them like they are. I agree. From what I've read it seems like the ones who took the plea deals are like FH and looking at prison in lengths of months, not years. The ones who didn't take the plea deals got hit with more charges the very next day, much more serious charges and prison terms in lengths of years. I wonder if those plea deals are looking better in hindsight, especially if they start digging deeper into their tax returns. I seriously wonder if any of these parents ever had the thought that they might be caught doing this and what the repercussions might be? Felicity Huffman at least seems contrite and admits doing wrong but Lori Loughlin needs a serious reality check.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 22, 2019 18:14:12 GMT
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Post by ibot2much on Apr 22, 2019 20:57:17 GMT
That is too bad. I would hope that she would have looked better after all that time away.
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Post by Critical on Apr 22, 2019 21:13:40 GMT
I read a blind the other day about how Britney had been off her meds since her father’s illness. Apparently she was behaving again the way she had been back years ago - remember the incoherent ranting and shaved head? - but family members have stepped in to get her back on her meds and get her “in balance” again. They’ve been trying to keep her out of the public eye as much as possible until she’s okay again.
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Post by momrek06 on Apr 22, 2019 23:18:32 GMT
This is so sad with Brittany.
Lord, she was a mess back what 9-10 years ago.
She has come so far and done so well HEADLINING for 5 plus years in VEGAS and did AMAZING.
I hate hearing that she is relapsing.
Is this about an ILLNESS her DAD has?
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Post by Kao on Apr 23, 2019 13:59:15 GMT
I saw that picture of Britney as well and felt very badly for her. One thing I can't understand is that if she needs someone looking after who she dates, how much money she spends, and she can't look after her own affairs, etc then how can she be "well" enough to perform night after night on stage in Vegas? Then there's that business of the lawyer from her conservatory quitting after some "irregularities" were discovered. Something in the milk ain't clean. Stop treating that poor woman like a racehorse and let her retire gracefully.
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Post by acookertv on Apr 23, 2019 14:15:57 GMT
I saw that picture of Britney as well and felt very badly for her. One thing I can't understand is that if she needs someone looking after who she dates, how much money she spends, and she can't look after her own affairs, etc then how can she be "well" enough to perform night after night on stage in Vegas? Then there's that business of the lawyer from her conservatory quitting after some "irregularities" were discovered. Something in the milk ain't clean. Stop treating that poor woman like a racehorse and let her retire gracefully. That's a great point. I wonder if it's possible she doesn't want to retire? It's different for each person. Some do better with some sort of routine and normalcy in their lives, and for Britney, performing may be seen as normal. It's really hard to tell with someone like her if she's performing because a bunch of greedy people want her making money, or because she's got a drive to do it.
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Post by betty80 on Apr 23, 2019 14:22:05 GMT
BRITNEY SPEARS MEDS TRIGGERED MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS"Britney Spears is at the tail end of her 30-day stay at a mental health facility ... and we've learned more about how she landed there in the first place. As we reported, Britney has had a rough time dealing with her dad's recent illness. Jamie and Britney are super close -- he's been her conservator for nearly a dozen years -- and his health battles have taken a big toll on her. We're told at the same time, Britney's doctors were adjusting her meds which had lost their efficacy. Britney's mental health issues were stabilized with a cocktail of medicines that were designed specifically her. Over time, those meds were increasingly ineffective and doctors needed to create a new cocktail. We're told there were problems. First, they had to wean Britney off the existing meds. This cannot be done quickly and there's a risk of suicide if it's not done right -- it's that serious. As doctors weaned her off the meds, they created a new cocktail, but it's all trial and error, and there were errors that made Britney unstable and ultimately unwilling to cooperate with doctors. She was admitted to the mental health facility and we're told doctors think they've now found the right mixture of drugs. Britney got a day pass Sunday to spend time with her boyfriend, Sam Asghari, in Bev Hills. She went back to the facility the same day. One other thing ... there have been reports the conservatorship has forced meds on Britney against her will. Not true. The conservatorship Britney is under does not permit the conservator to force drugs on the person for whom the conservatorship was created. On that note, there have also been reports Jamie Spears forced Britney into the mental health facility. The type of conservatorship Britney has -- through the probate court -- does not allow a conservator to force someone into a mental health facility. What's more, we're told Jamie is adamant -- he did not want his daughter to go to the facility because he thought it would leak out to the media and he felt there were better ways of solving her problems. We're told Britney is the one who said she wanted to go."
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 23, 2019 15:33:00 GMT
Changing psychiatric drugs is no trivial thing, the side effects of coming off of one set of drugs and the new side effects of getting onto others can really wreak havoc on a person. I think it shows a lot of maturity that she's making sure she's safe while doing so.
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