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Post by MissGriss on May 31, 2020 23:58:56 GMT
If they inflated the business and showed false documents to Coty (the company that bought her out) that's a federal offense and one where they could be arrested by.
I've heard different numbers about her business being bandied about. 900 million is the number I've heard the most but apparently she's only made 300 million in sales in the past two years? Nothing to sneeze at, and she sold her shares for 600 million so she's doing more than okay but the Kardashians exaggerate and lie about everything.
As far as I know, they didn't lie to Coty. In the article I read, it said that the valuations details of the Coty contract were the thing that finally allowed Forbes to document that she'd lied previously.
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Post by Amy Lee on Jun 2, 2020 14:25:09 GMT
This is so surprising. Not! She probably did it for the 'gram.
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Post by Critical on Jun 4, 2020 5:47:19 GMT
HOO OY! After years of rumors about Lea Michele being absolutely horrid to work with, the dam has finally broken! Gotta love karma.
Sounds like she's been a nasty witch since her days on Broadway, long before Glee. It's a shame, because she has some talent. Not enough talent to override a bad personality though. When will these people learn? Show up on time and prepared, treat everyone with respect and just do your job! I was going to joke that she and Katherine Heigl should develop a show together, but I wouldn't wish that pair on anyone.
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Post by MissGriss on Jun 4, 2020 6:50:00 GMT
HOO OY! After years of rumors about Lea Michele being absolutely horrid to work with, the dam has finally broken! Gotta love karma.
Sounds like she's been a nasty witch since her days on Broadway, long before Glee. It's a shame, because she has some talent. Not enough talent to override a bad personality though. When will these people learn? Show up on time and prepared, treat everyone with respect and just do your job! I was going to joke that she and Katherine Heigl should develop a show together, but I wouldn't wish that pair on anyone.
The apology I saw was one of those, "I'm so sorry if you perceived...." non-apologies, and people were calling her out on it like crazy!
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Post by beerbelly on Jun 4, 2020 12:01:25 GMT
OMG! I am loving this piece of gossip. I had no idea!
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2020 12:57:16 GMT
This is one of those where I think you hear it and kind of think that with her demeanor and public persona, it's no surprise at all ... kind of like finding out what a horrible creep Kevin Spacey is.
I think that Lea has pushed (and was pushed) her entire life to be a Broadway diva. She has styled herself to be seen as a Patty Lupone or Barbra Streisand, including the attitude. But what Lea doesn't seem to have figured out is that while Patty can NOW go on a talk show and comfortably talk trash about celebrities with less experience than her, she's doing that after a LONG and successful career. She paid her dues to get that status. Lea seems to have taken on that presona before putting in all the work.
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Post by Kao on Jun 4, 2020 13:35:29 GMT
Patti never deliberately mistreated people though. The stories coming out about Lea are super juicy, and even more telling not one person who has worked with her has come to her defense. Some of these stories are truly ugly and says a lot about her. It also explains why Ryan Murphy (a man known for using talent over and over again in different shows) never used her again after Scream Queens. Word on the street is that she's also blacklisted from Broadway as well.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2020 13:38:54 GMT
Patti never deliberately mistreated people though. The stories coming out about Lea are super juicy, and even more telling not one person who has worked with her has come to her defense. Some of these stories are truly ugly and says a lot about her. It also explains why Ryan Murphy (a man known for using talent over and over again in different shows) never used her again after Scream Queens. Word on the street is that she's also blacklisted from Broadway as well. Agree with you on Patti. I did not mean to imply that she's guilty of any of the things that Lea is. Rather that Lea would see her "speak my mind" attitude and misunderstand that to thinking it's okay and celebrated to speak her mind by being downright nasty to people in order to prop herself up. I think Lea studied divas on the surface level only and never understood work ethic vs public persona.
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Post by ibot2much on Jun 4, 2020 13:57:16 GMT
GLEE was "about" high school and it really was off- screen like high school. Sad that so many allowed her behavior to continue-----just like high school.
Apparently she was mean to everybody.. an equal opportunity B!tch.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 4, 2020 14:16:41 GMT
HOO OY! After years of rumors about Lea Michele being absolutely horrid to work with, the dam has finally broken! Gotta love karma.
Sounds like she's been a nasty witch since her days on Broadway, long before Glee. It's a shame, because she has some talent. Not enough talent to override a bad personality though. When will these people learn? Show up on time and prepared, treat everyone with respect and just do your job! I was going to joke that she and Katherine Heigl should develop a show together, but I wouldn't wish that pair on anyone.
Lea Michele. I have no clue who she is other than I remember when she lost her actor BF to drugs years ago. I never watched any shows with LM at all. Not GLEE or Broadway or whatever she starred in BUT why were there rumors for years? Why wasn't LM's nonsense addressed way before now? Is she some amazing fabulous outstanding incredible actress that everyone around her ALLOWED the nasty behavior? And now the apology........years after hurting so many people???
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2020 14:39:01 GMT
HOO OY! After years of rumors about Lea Michele being absolutely horrid to work with, the dam has finally broken! Gotta love karma.
Sounds like she's been a nasty witch since her days on Broadway, long before Glee. It's a shame, because she has some talent. Not enough talent to override a bad personality though. When will these people learn? Show up on time and prepared, treat everyone with respect and just do your job! I was going to joke that she and Katherine Heigl should develop a show together, but I wouldn't wish that pair on anyone.
Lea Michele. I have no clue who she is other than I remember when she lost her actor BF to drugs years ago. I never watched any shows with LM at all. Not GLEE or Broadway or whatever she starred in BUT why were there rumors for years? Why wasn't LM's nonsense addressed way before now? Is she some amazing fabulous outstanding incredible actress that everyone around her ALLOWED the nasty behavior? And now the apology........years after hurting so many people??? It was allowed becuase she put on a good show and drew an audience. Hollywood is not in the business of creating the best work environments. It's in the business of drawing an audience. There are also plenty of rumors that Ellen DeGeneres does not extend her be kind message to people around her who are not big stars. She's not the only one. I think Hollywood overlooks a lot of that becuase ther are also a lot of untrue rumors that float around AND because of money.
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Post by momrek06 on Jun 4, 2020 17:10:19 GMT
Lea Michele. I have no clue who she is other than I remember when she lost her actor BF to drugs years ago. I never watched any shows with LM at all. Not GLEE or Broadway or whatever she starred in BUT why were there rumors for years? Why wasn't LM's nonsense addressed way before now? Is she some amazing fabulous outstanding incredible actress that everyone around her ALLOWED the nasty behavior? And now the apology........years after hurting so many people??? It was allowed becuase she put on a good show and drew an audience. Hollywood is not in the business of creating the best work environments. It's in the business of drawing an audience. There are also plenty of rumors that Ellen DeGeneres does not extend her be kind message to people around her who are not big stars. She's not the only one. I think Hollywood overlooks a lot of that becuase ther are also a lot of untrue rumors that float around AND because of money. And now I am reading all this came about ONLY because LM tweeted something about the loss of George Floyd and that he did not deserve this (treatment) and it must end. And then people LM was nasty too responded. It's sad it was all due to a tweet and that LM's meanness was not address earlier. Yes, I am also seeing things about ED as well.
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Post by ibot2much on Jun 4, 2020 17:25:04 GMT
It is funny that I ALWAYS thought that there was something "off" with Ellen and her repeated enjoyment of having people fall into water or other stuff on her show and game show. Amazing what people are willing to do for a prize. She also does a lot of scaring her guests with things jumping out at them for no reason.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2020 17:44:12 GMT
It is funny that I ALWAYS thought that there was something "off" with Ellen and her repeated enjoyment of having people fall into water or other stuff on her show and game show. Amazing what people are willing to do for a prize. She also does a lot of scaring her guests with things jumping out at them for no reason. I'm somewhat torn on the stories about Ellen. Some of them seem very believable. But some of them seem like people who are upset that they don't get her on-air persona when they see her behind the scenes. When I was in college, I worked with the student organization that put on events for the campus - concerts, comedy shows, etc. I worked on the comedy committee. When we worked backstage for a show, we'd be briefed on how to behave around the performer - man would give instructions that they did not want to talk to anyone before the show other than being told "the stage is that way" or "five minutes to start". This was because while for us it was a fun opprotunity to see a show in a unique way, for themit was going to work. Some performers need quiet to get in the right mindset before they perform. So when I hear stories about things like Ellen not paying her staff while she's doing shows from her house, I think she's mean. But when I hear stories about "I was a guest on her show, walked past her before and said hello and she would not even look at me" I think she's working.
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Post by Critical on Jun 4, 2020 21:03:30 GMT
It is funny that I ALWAYS thought that there was something "off" with Ellen and her repeated enjoyment of having people fall into water or other stuff on her show and game show. Amazing what people are willing to do for a prize. She also does a lot of scaring her guests with things jumping out at them for no reason. I've always thought those "pranks" were the act of a really cruel person. Some of the things she does are really sadistic. The fact that she thinks scaring people or doing terrible things to them (like on that not-a-game show) is fun speaks to her as a person. The look on her face when she does that stuff has always struck me as "off." Like a little kid who likes pulling the wings off insects. I've read rumors for years about how terribly she treats Portia. I honestly don't know why she stays - maybe money and the fact that Ellen could probably ruin her career if she wanted
Like with Ellen, there have been rumors for YEARS about Lea Michele being a nasty person. I remember reading a story from someone who was dining with at the same restaurant (IIRC, it was near or in LM's home town/neighborhood) as LM and her parents early on in the life of Glee and this person said she was beyond rude to the restaurant staff AND the other diners. I think she's just an entitled b!tch and it has nothing to do with fame really, although I'm sure fame has made it worse.
As to why people don't speak up.....look at how long it took for so many of those horrid men to be "MeToo-ed." When someone has pretty much all the power, people just aren't going to risk their careers over it. With Weinstein, we have seen some of the actresses whose careers he pretty much destroyed. With LM, she was the star of Glee and clearly, even though many others dislike her, Ryan Murphy seems to love her. Right now, Ryan Murphy is a pretty powerful guy in the business. I mean, how many shows does he have right now AND that deal with Netflix? Who wants to go up against his golden girl? Maybe he doesn't cast her in everything, but apparently they're very close.
In show business - and many other businesses - if you complain, whether it's valid or not, you can be labeled as difficult or "not a team player." In show business especially, there's ALWAYS someone else (actually MANY someone elses) who will happily take your job and not complain about terrible work conditions or awful co-workers/bosses. I think #MeToo has emboldened people to speak up about other problems too.
ITA that LM's apology was anything but. It was the equivalent of "I'm sorry you were offended by what I said" vs. "I'm sorry I said such offensive things." It's not quite [in response to your mom demanding that you apologize to your sister for calling her ugly] "I'm sorry you're ugly," but it's definitely a NON-apology.
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Post by ibot2much on Jun 4, 2020 21:28:21 GMT
So glad you saw the same thing with Ellen"s "pranks" .
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 5, 2020 0:05:37 GMT
I've also been a non-fan of Ellen's sadistic pranks. I stopped watching her show years ago because of them and I've never turned on her prime time show. You are right about that squinty side-eye look of glee when someone could actually get hurt.
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Post by Kao on Jun 5, 2020 0:14:48 GMT
LM didn't even apologize, it was more like "sorry that you perceived me as being mean" which is a horrible thing to say, especially since she told a young girl that she would snatch her wig off and **** in it. It's reminding me of Constance Wu, who was another one known for having a crappy attitude and when she had her comeuppance earlier this year in a similar fashion no one came to her defense.
In other Patti Lupone news she had a part on season 2 of Pose, and while she played a vile character based on Leona Helmsley the rest of the cast said she was an absolute delight to work with.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Jun 6, 2020 10:56:02 GMT
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Post by Kao on Jun 6, 2020 14:38:31 GMT
Having heard some not-cool things about her over the years I totally believe it.
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Post by Cuddles on Jun 6, 2020 14:39:24 GMT
Reminds me of what happened to Paula Dean. I don't have a horse in any of these races. I know so little about Paula Dean, Abby Lee Miller, or Lea Michele. What I do know, however, is that accummulatively they indicate a long-overdue awakening. The NFL is even saying now they should've listened when their players were peacefully protesting. Where there is progress there is hope. As for the discussion about Ellen, I'm somewhat lost. She seems like such a goodhearted individual, always helping those in need and giving people reasons to smile. And I've never heard of an injury from those game stunts. I believe they're more illusion than anything. To peer into someone's character it's always helpful to see who they surround themselves with.... Jeannie and Andy are such down-to-earth, kind people... so yeah, I don't know, I'm lost on this one. I don't see any red flags whatsoever with Ellen.
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Post by dagwood on Jun 9, 2020 19:56:34 GMT
What surprises me the most is that Dance Mom's wasn't cancelled earlier. That woman is a horrible beast.
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Post by beerbelly on Jun 9, 2020 20:19:19 GMT
I had to stop watching Dance Moms because I felt she was teaching those kids some poor emotional lessons.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jun 11, 2020 20:20:15 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Jun 11, 2020 20:24:32 GMT
Love Kelly. I hope she will be ok.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 12, 2020 2:19:23 GMT
It was her decision according to articles I've read.
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Post by Kao on Jun 12, 2020 2:46:51 GMT
This is why you don't work with your partner/let them manage your career, it rarely works out.
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Post by Critical on Jun 12, 2020 4:14:20 GMT
I'm only surprised Kelly lasted this long with that jerk. SO many rumors for YEARS about what a cheating liar he is. She deserves better.
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Post by moviememories on Jun 28, 2020 21:28:27 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Jun 28, 2020 23:01:13 GMT
Love Kelly. I hope she will be ok. Me too. She'll be okay..
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