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Post by momrek06 on Oct 14, 2020 19:11:54 GMT
Maybe they did it all for a publicity stunt. Look how much they are being mentioned but also the project they are working on. That doesn't make it less reprehensible in my mind, just my cynical take on why they are doing it. I agree justCoz ...... it's been what 2 days and I am tired of hearing about them already. PUBLICITY STUNT!!!!
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Post by Kao on Oct 14, 2020 20:32:14 GMT
But why? It makes everyone (except the wife) look horrible. What's more likely is those two clowns got caught and everything after the initial pics were released has been bad attempts at damage control.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 14, 2020 20:39:11 GMT
But why? It makes everyone (except the wife) look horrible. What's more likely is those two clowns got caught and everything after the initial pics were released has been bad attempts at damage control. It's the whole "no such thing as bad publicity" thing. People who didn't know who they were on Sunday know who they are now.
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Post by justCoz on Oct 14, 2020 20:40:52 GMT
Because "bad publicity is still publicity". They didn't at all try to hide it, and the pictures show they were with their agent at one point. It just seems to me it was so blatantly obnoxious in how much they were exposed all day that I think it was part of a stunt.
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Post by justCoz on Oct 14, 2020 20:41:13 GMT
But why? It makes everyone (except the wife) look horrible. What's more likely is those two clowns got caught and everything after the initial pics were released has been bad attempts at damage control. It's the whole "no such thing as bad publicity" thing. People who didn't know who they were on Sunday know who they are now. Jinx!
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 14, 2020 20:53:56 GMT
But why? It makes everyone (except the wife) look horrible. What's more likely is those two clowns got caught and everything after the initial pics were released has been bad attempts at damage control. Kao that is exactly how I feel. They are TWO CLOWNS.
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 14, 2020 21:40:53 GMT
And I read on a gossip site (blind gossip) that he plays her FATHER in the movie that they just completed. Ewwww! So he's fine, because sexism, but they are seeing if they could throw her into a relationship to save her career. I would include the link here but I read it on my phone.
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Post by Critical on Oct 14, 2020 22:31:36 GMT
And I read on a gossip site (blind gossip) that he plays her FATHER in the movie that they just completed. Ewwww! So he's fine, because sexism, but they are seeing if they could throw her into a relationship to save her career. I would include the link here but I read it on my phone. Yep, saw the item on BG yesterday. Based on that item, it's definitely NOT a publicity stunt. WHY would they do that for publicity? No, they're just dumb. The thing that really rings true in that blind item is that HIS career will likely be fine, especially if his wife forgives him. It's HER career that's going to take a hit if she's portrayed as a home wrecker. Classic double standard.
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Post by Kao on Oct 15, 2020 0:10:55 GMT
And I read on a gossip site (blind gossip) that he plays her FATHER in the movie that they just completed. Ewwww! So he's fine, because sexism, but they are seeing if they could throw her into a relationship to save her career. I would include the link here but I read it on my phone. Yep, saw the item on BG yesterday. Based on that item, it's definitely NOT a publicity stunt. WHY would they do that for publicity? No, they're just dumb. The thing that really rings true in that blind item is that HIS career will likely be fine, especially if his wife forgives him. It's HER career that's going to take a hit if she's portrayed as a home wrecker. Classic double standard. Not so sure about that; I looked at the comments on the Daily Fail and while there are some nasty comments about her the general consensus there and other gossip rags is he's a piece of [censored], and it's especially bad for him because of that interview he did a few years ago about cheating:
“I think women should be more indulgent of affairs. I really do. It’s daft to kick someone out over a fling. Isn’t it? Everyone should turn a blind eye to men’s behaviour between the ages of 40 and 50. Let it all blow over.”
No one is here for men who are that cavilier about cheating and believing women should just turn a blind eye to it. Even the most..."pick me" of pick me women were like "What!?" after reading that because notice how he says only women should be indulgent of affairs. And like most cheating men he feels like women should tolerate it but if his wife went to Denmark and had a fling with a hot, younger dude he would have a fit. Lily was already doing damage control with the snorting coke in the park and the Chris Evans thing and this makes it worse, but if she plays her cards right she can gloss over this a la Claire Danes.
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Post by Amy Lee on Oct 15, 2020 0:16:27 GMT
Maybe they did it all for a publicity stunt. Look how much they are being mentioned but also the project they are working on. That doesn't make it less reprehensible in my mind, just my cynical take on why they are doing it. I can believe this too. Based on how open and showy they are in the pics.
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 15, 2020 21:41:20 GMT
Snorting coke in the park? Christ Evens thing? Please, I do not know this gossip and I would like to know! Was she doing coke in the pandemic? Because coke would be the last drug I would take, hyper without leaving the house and having strangers to talk to? No thanks.
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Post by Kao on Oct 15, 2020 23:08:25 GMT
Yes, she got papped with a friend doing coke in a park...during the pandemic! And then when that started to gain traction did this PR stunt walking with Chris Evans in the same park that looked as phony as those Kelly Cuco/Henry Cavill pap pictures when they were supposedly "going out." She's like Michelle Williams; a reputation for being quiet and a decent actress but is secretly a whole a** mess!
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 15, 2020 23:45:42 GMT
Holy wow! Why is she doing cocaine in a park? You smoke weed in parks! Everything people do while on coke is not pandemic friendly and every place that you do them in is closed.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Oct 15, 2020 23:53:10 GMT
Holy wow! Why is she doing cocaine in a park? At all. You smoke weed in parks! Everything people do while on coke is not pandemic friendly and every place that you do them in is closed. Fixed that for ya.
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Post by Critical on Oct 16, 2020 1:29:23 GMT
Yep, saw the item on BG yesterday. Based on that item, it's definitely NOT a publicity stunt. WHY would they do that for publicity? No, they're just dumb. The thing that really rings true in that blind item is that HIS career will likely be fine, especially if his wife forgives him. It's HER career that's going to take a hit if she's portrayed as a home wrecker. Classic double standard. Not so sure about that; I looked at the comments on the Daily Fail and while there are some nasty comments about her the general consensus there and other gossip rags is he's a piece of [censored], and it's especially bad for him because of that interview he did a few years ago about cheating:
“I think women should be more indulgent of affairs. I really do. It’s daft to kick someone out over a fling. Isn’t it? Everyone should turn a blind eye to men’s behaviour between the ages of 40 and 50. Let it all blow over.”
No one is here for men who are that cavilier about cheating and believing women should just turn a blind eye to it. Even the most..."pick me" of pick me women were like "What!?" after reading that because notice how he says only women should be indulgent of affairs. And like most cheating men he feels like women should tolerate it but if his wife went to Denmark and had a fling with a hot, younger dude he would have a fit. Lily was already doing damage control with the snorting coke in the park and the Chris Evans thing and this makes it worse, but if she plays her cards right she can gloss over this a la Claire Danes.
Look, historically, at what kind of blow back men get regarding adultery vs. what women get. Also, look at Dominic's public image vs. Lily's. He's looked at as a bit of a jerk and we've seen him famously play a big cheater on TV. Lily, OTOH, has literally played a Disney princess. She has a pretty, pardon me, lily white image. Adultery is going to blacken her rep much more than his, especially if his wife (at least publicly) forgives him. I hope someone in Lily's camp shakes some sense into her and helps her salvage her image. I think she's talented, but she's not making very smart decisions.
Has no one told these people that nearly EVERYONE now carries a camera/video camera with them at all times!? Quit doing this stuff in public! Idiots.
It wasn't so great for Claire for a while there after the whole Billy Crudup thing either. She was the more famous of the two in that scenario. It was made worse by the fact that Mary-Louise was pregnant at the time. It was all very Tom Brady (notice how HE didn't get any blow back about that situation?).
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Post by Kao on Oct 16, 2020 2:20:20 GMT
Not so sure about that; I looked at the comments on the Daily Fail and while there are some nasty comments about her the general consensus there and other gossip rags is he's a piece of [censored], and it's especially bad for him because of that interview he did a few years ago about cheating:
“I think women should be more indulgent of affairs. I really do. It’s daft to kick someone out over a fling. Isn’t it? Everyone should turn a blind eye to men’s behaviour between the ages of 40 and 50. Let it all blow over.”
No one is here for men who are that cavilier about cheating and believing women should just turn a blind eye to it. Even the most..."pick me" of pick me women were like "What!?" after reading that because notice how he says only women should be indulgent of affairs. And like most cheating men he feels like women should tolerate it but if his wife went to Denmark and had a fling with a hot, younger dude he would have a fit. Lily was already doing damage control with the snorting coke in the park and the Chris Evans thing and this makes it worse, but if she plays her cards right she can gloss over this a la Claire Danes.
Look, historically, at what kind of blow back men get regarding adultery vs. what women get. Also, look at Dominic's public image vs. Lily's. He's looked at as a bit of a jerk and we've seen him famously play a big cheater on TV. Lily, OTOH, has literally played a Disney princess. She has a pretty, pardon me, lily white image. Adultery is going to blacken her rep much more than his, especially if his wife (at least publicly) forgives him. I hope someone in Lily's camp shakes some sense into her and helps her salvage her image. I think she's talented, but she's not making very smart decisions.
Has no one told these people that nearly EVERYONE now carries a camera/video camera with them at all times!? Quit doing this stuff in public! Idiots.
It wasn't so great for Claire for a while there after the whole Billy Crudup thing either. She was the more famous of the two in that scenario. It was made worse by the fact that Mary-Louise was pregnant at the time. It was all very Tom Brady (notice how HE didn't get any blow back about that situation?).
You make some good points Critical . If I were Lily I would totally get photographed somewhere looking sad and saying "He told me he was separated from his wife. I would NEVER get involved with a man who was still married!" and completely throw him under the bus. People can relate to that (Who hasn't had a married prick try it with the "I'm separated" line?) and she would be forgiven and believed, especially since Dominic wasn't wearing his wedding ring at the time!
It also depends on who you are; Claire Danes initially had a rough go of it but has since won awards, wore the showstopper dress at The Met Gala, and still has a vibrant career while Billy Crudup got blackballed for years (incidently the ONLY time I've seen a man in Hollywood get their comeuppance for being a callous cad). Tom Brady has too many Patriot fans sucking up to everything he does for people to care about his poor ex but I've never liked him or Giselle very much after that.
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Post by Critical on Oct 16, 2020 2:33:01 GMT
You make some good points Critical . If I were Lily I would totally get photographed somewhere looking sad and saying "He told me he was separated from his wife. I would NEVER get involved with a man who was still married!" and completely throw him under the bus. People can relate to that (Who hasn't had a married prick try it with the "I'm separated" line?) and she would be forgiven and believed, especially since Dominic wasn't wearing his wedding ring at the time!
It also depends on who you are; Claire Danes initially had a rough go of it but has since won awards, wore the showstopper dress at The Met Gala, and still has a vibrant career while Billy Crudup got blackballed for years (incidently the ONLY time I've seen a man in Hollywood get their comeuppance for being a callous cad). Tom Brady has too many Patriot fans sucking up to everything he does for people to care about his poor ex but I've never liked him or Giselle very much after that.
Oh, for sure, Billy was blackballed for a while.....but he just won an Emmy, so there you go. He was in the doghouse for a while, but he's worked pretty steadily. You could argue that he wasn't on track to be a huge star to begin with, while Claire definitely was I think that, if Mary-Louise hadn't been pregnant AND Claire hadn't been quite young and seen as an ingenue, it might have gone differently. IMO, even though she was an adult, I think a lot of people still thought of her as a young girl, both because of her looks AND because of the roles she'd played up until then. Heck, even in Stage Beauty (which I loved, BTW, and thought BC was terrific in), she played that same type.
I think the difference with Lily is that she's apparently known him for a while. She knows he's married. She should know better. Clearly, she didn't. According to the blind items, her people are hustling to find her a boyfriend. It'll probably be someone super wholesome. Like I said, I think someone in her camp needs to give her a good Come to Jesus talk and get making smarter choices. She obviously isn't the first young woman to get involved with a married man, but she's famous and the rules are different, especially since she's got a pretty (up until recently) straight-laced image....although that may have more to do with her looks than her behavior
ETA: I had to laugh just now as I was reading DListed and there was a Billy Crudup joke
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Post by Kao on Oct 16, 2020 3:08:32 GMT
Yeah, they MIGHT have gotten off with the whole "It's a misunderstanding" thing except for the photographs of him sticking his tongue down her throat and the shot of him grabbing her behind in that church. Personally I think they both had the whole "We're on holiday and it's a pandemic in Rome, nobody will be here" mentality. They won't be the first people who lost their mind on holiday and they won't be the last. Lily needs to get it together because she's really been doing dumb stuff these past few months and she is old enough to know better. I would imagine that sharing a publicist with Dominic also complicates matters.
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Post by Amy Lee on Oct 16, 2020 5:02:53 GMT
You know, until this day I don't care for Jason Aldean because he publicly cheated on his wife? It might sound silly but it was such turn off to me. As far as Lily and what's his face, this does not make me want to check out their movie.
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Post by MissGriss on Oct 16, 2020 6:21:22 GMT
Yeah, they MIGHT have gotten off with the whole "It's a misunderstanding" thing except for the photographs of him sticking his tongue down her throat and the shot of him grabbing her behind in that church. Personally I think they both had the whole "We're on holiday and it's a pandemic in Rome, nobody will be here" mentality. They won't be the first people who lost their mind on holiday and they won't be the last. Lily needs to get it together because she's really been doing dumb stuff these past few months and she is old enough to know better. I would imagine that sharing a publicist with Dominic also complicates matters.Based on how things were handled recently with everyone circling the wagons around the wife and Dominic, I think it's safe to say that the publicist is more on his side than Lily's. (Not that I'm no anyone's side. I think they are all a mess.)
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Post by Kao on Oct 16, 2020 7:02:16 GMT
Yeah, they MIGHT have gotten off with the whole "It's a misunderstanding" thing except for the photographs of him sticking his tongue down her throat and the shot of him grabbing her behind in that church. Personally I think they both had the whole "We're on holiday and it's a pandemic in Rome, nobody will be here" mentality. They won't be the first people who lost their mind on holiday and they won't be the last. Lily needs to get it together because she's really been doing dumb stuff these past few months and she is old enough to know better. I would imagine that sharing a publicist with Dominic also complicates matters.Based on how things were handled recently with everyone circling the wagons around the wife and Dominic, I think it's safe to say that the publicist is more on his side than Lily's. (Not that I'm no anyone's side. I think they are all a mess.) Exactly, which is why if I were her I would be conveniently papped in a park with a friend loudly talking about how he lied and said he was separated. Sometimes a gal has to look after her own self-interest. The whole "No, it was a misunderstanding" story doesn't hold water (especially since someone leaked that they both stayed in the same suite at the hotel) and I'm sure this wasn't Dominick's first round at the cheating rodeo. He's admitted that his first marriage broke up due to a ton of cheating, and this wife is an aristocrat and seems very much the "Okay, do whatever, just don't embarrass me" sort. Some men are very much the type that want a home life with a faithful woman but also wants to have backdoor women, and they tend to not change their stripes.
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 16, 2020 11:17:44 GMT
Holy wow! Why is she doing cocaine in a park? At all. You smoke weed in parks! Everything people do while on coke is not pandemic friendly and every place that you do them in is closed. Fixed that for ya. I just figure that celebrities do drugs, so that part isn't that shocking to me.
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Post by AZChristian on Oct 16, 2020 15:53:45 GMT
Not so sure about that; I looked at the comments on the Daily Fail and while there are some nasty comments about her the general consensus there and other gossip rags is he's a piece of [censored], and it's especially bad for him because of that interview he did a few years ago about cheating:
“I think women should be more indulgent of affairs. I really do. It’s daft to kick someone out over a fling. Isn’t it? Everyone should turn a blind eye to men’s behaviour between the ages of 40 and 50. Let it all blow over.” But he's 51 now. Should have grown out of that attitude.
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Post by Kao on Oct 18, 2020 19:37:32 GMT
Looks like Lily's dropping out of doing promo for the movie Rebecca on GMA; between this and Armie Hammer leaving his wife and kids in the Caymen Islands for months (only to recently try to get a court order for her and the kids to come back to L.A. even though they are settled, in school, and covid numbers are much lower there) publicity for this movie is going to be a mess!
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 18, 2020 23:22:06 GMT
Looks like Lily's dropping out of doing promo for the movie Rebecca on GMA; between this and Armie Hammer leaving his wife and kids in the Caymen Islands for months (only to recently try to get a court order for her and the kids to come back to L.A. even though they are settled, in school, and covid numbers are much lower there) publicity for this movie is going to be a mess! Kinda sad, I loved the original movie and when I saw there was to be a remake I was shocked. Some things should not be messed with, this was one IMO. I also felt the casting of Lily as (the second) Mrs. de Winter was awful. She lacks the naïveté that was so central to the character. The lack of promotion will really hurt this film I feel.
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Post by Amy Lee on Oct 19, 2020 0:14:32 GMT
Damn. Last I heard of Armie was the toe brouhaha with his son. Didn't know he was getting divorced.
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Post by Kao on Oct 19, 2020 17:08:48 GMT
Now Lily's dropped doing the Graham Norton Show. I don't know who is advising her but they aren't working in her best interest, especially since Graham is always kind to his guests and doesn't try to embarrass them. This scandal is more known about in the U.K. than here but I can see him saying something cheeky to acknowledge the elephant in the room, then moving on to other things.
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Post by AZChristian on Oct 19, 2020 18:28:06 GMT
. . . I can see him saying something cheeky to acknowledge the elephant in the room, then moving on to other things. "So, after experiencing a relationship (in the movie) with a man whose first wife is actually dead, how did it feel to have a relationship with a man whose wife is still alive?"
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2020 18:50:26 GMT
Now Lily's dropped doing the Graham Norton Show. I don't know who is advising her but they aren't working in her best interest, especially since Graham is always kind to his guests and doesn't try to embarrass them. This scandal is more known about in the U.K. than here but I can see him saying something cheeky to acknowledge the elephant in the room, then moving on to other things. Totally agree with you. I think this would be one of the safest environments she could go in to. Maybe the movie is just that bad ...
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Post by Kao on Oct 20, 2020 14:40:30 GMT
I'm not sure how true this is, but supposedly Dominic has been chosen to play Prince Charles in the final seasons of The Crown. Honestly, is there a role of a cheating cad this man won't take? Or is he just playing himself over and over again? Anyways, The Crown is pretty prestigious TV, so it's like he's getting awarded for being a cad.
Meanwhile, in the "your publicist is NOT giving you sound advice" corner Lily bailed on all the Day 2 press junket interviews for Rebecca 45 minutes before they started. Considering how that group includes the Hollywood Foreign Press she can kiss any possibility of a Golden Globe goodbye; they are not to be trifled with and they remember slights. Also, according to another gossip forum The Sun is running a column today defending Lily - arguing that since she is young and single she did NOTHING wrong and is in fact ENTITLED to date whoever she wants (including married men) because she's just enjoying life. Not the angle I would have taken AT ALL because it just makes her look worse! Honestly, she needs to fire her agent/publicist she shares with him because they aren't doing her any favors, and it's obvious at this point that they are more interested in salvaging Dominic's career than hers.
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