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Post by ibot2much on Oct 13, 2022 12:31:38 GMT
Never my fav....but Madonna really is desperate to prove she is still relevant....and I guess there are many who feel she is. But her pink hair and allusions to being gay just make me shake my head.
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 13, 2022 13:50:59 GMT
Never my fav....but Madonna really is desperate to prove she is still relevant....and I guess there are many who feel she is. But her pink hair and allusions to being gay just make me shake my head. It reeks of desperation. There are still people that like her though. I used to back in the day when both of us were a lot younger. I'm not saying she needs to go sit in a rocking chair, but she could still do edgy but show that she has matured as an artist. She looks silly. I guess she hasn't matured. I always said Cher pulled off that sexy but older look, maybe because she was so matter of fact about it. But even with Cher, she knew how far to go without looking desperate. It was as if she didn't really care.
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Post by Kao on Oct 13, 2022 20:14:55 GMT
I always thought that Madonna would turn getting older on its head and do it fashionably. I never dreamed that she would be hanging on to youth so hard you can hear it screaming. I don't fault her though, I fault a society that says if you're a woman you only have value if you're youthful. I will say I'm disappointed though; I have no problem with the pink hair but she's ruined her face and that butt implant is not the business. And I mean most fans know she's bi so I don't understand the announcement on her Insta; I suspect trolling for attention.
She's not the only one either. Demi Moore...*sigh* And has Meg Ryan worked since she got that failed face lift? Even men are not immune, look at Mickey Rourke! We make fun of people (mostly women, lbr here) for looking "older" and then get upset when they bow down to the pressure and maybe make not so good decisions based on that. It's a vicious, nasty circle.
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Post by MissGriss on Oct 13, 2022 20:27:14 GMT
Yeah. Aging in the public eye is not for the faint of heart. Some definitely do it better than others.
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 13, 2022 20:46:43 GMT
Yeah. Aging in the public eye is not for the faint of heart. Some definitely do it better than others. The thing is, if you are going to get work, be sure you get good work. Don't go overboard. don't get something that looks freaky. Look at Jane Fonda, she looks spectacular. I would call her doctor! I have read stories of some women (and men too) who have had work that they regret. AS for her being bi.... uh, Madonna, we kind of knew that already. I wonder if she has some kind of body dysmorphia issues going on. She always was a lovely looking woman. She could have just gotten some tweaking.
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Post by Kao on Oct 13, 2022 20:47:59 GMT
John Q Public: Look at you. You're looking old and wrinkly, and you need to do something about that.
Also John Q. Public: You got plastic surgery, oh how vain.
Make it make sense...
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 13, 2022 20:53:22 GMT
John Q Public: Look at you. You're looking old and wrinkly, and you need to do something about that. Also John Q. Public: You got plastic surgery, oh how vain. Make it make sense... Yes, but there is a line between getting good work and not knowing when to stop. I would get work if I could, nothing drastic, maybe a bit of a lift or some botox. I know I won't look 21 if I did. I won't fool anyone. I think when you no longer look like yourself, you went too far.
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Post by Critical on Oct 14, 2022 0:50:02 GMT
Agreed about Madonna. I'd guess that a huge majority of celebs have had some sort of work done, but there are always a few who take it too far. It's weird though because I don't think Madonna is just doing it to look younger than she is. I think she wants to look YOUNG and there's a difference. At this point, she's heading for Jocelyn Wildenstein territory. Maybe it's exacerbated by the fact that she has a daughter about the age she was at the height of her popularity. She doesn't seem to have anyone in her life to tell her the truth AND she doesn't understand how ridiculous she looks. She's starting to look grotesque.
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Post by waywyrd on Oct 14, 2022 2:13:12 GMT
Michelle Pfeiffer is my gold standard for aging beautifully. If she's had anything done, it doesn't look obvious or garish like Madonna, Mickey Roarke, etc.
Halle Berry, Cindy Crawford, Angela Bassett, JLo, Sharon Stone, Jennifer Aniston - all over 50 and still gorgeous, IMO. Nothing wrong with some fillers or Botox, but there's a line between refreshed and cartoon character. Madonna hopped alll the way over that line.
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Post by Kao on Oct 17, 2022 16:54:54 GMT
I keep remembering some of the people I've seen on Botched and think about how they said a certain portion of of their clients were told "No" to getting a certain procedure, went to another doctor who finally said "yes" and they got botched as a result. I think that might happen with celebrities to a huge degree because usually they have the funds to keep doctor shopping until they find a doctor willing to perform whatever they want. I also think they go on friend's recommendations (which can be a double edged sword since everyone is different) when they should do their own research. Also, the jury's still out on certain procedures; I have yet to see anyone using fillers that actually look nice.
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Post by angelic_one2002 on Oct 17, 2022 17:21:26 GMT
I agree with your list, waywyrd. Christie Brinkley is aging pretty well, also.
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 17, 2022 23:25:01 GMT
I just saw an article about Andie MacDowell. She is 63, let her hair go gray and let herself age normally. She looks lovely. We as entertainment consumers need to put our foot down that we want to see people who look like us!
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Post by Critical on Oct 18, 2022 6:33:18 GMT
Michelle Pfeiffer is my gold standard for aging beautifully. If she's had anything done, it doesn't look obvious or garish like Madonna, Mickey Roarke, etc. Halle Berry, Cindy Crawford, Angela Bassett, JLo, Sharon Stone, Jennifer Aniston - all over 50 and still gorgeous, IMO. Nothing wrong with some fillers or Botox, but there's a line between refreshed and cartoon character. Madonna hopped alll the way over that line. I think Jane Fonda looks pretty great too. She's had work done, but it's GOOD work. She looks refreshed and healthy and not like she's trying to look 50.
Of course, if you look at the fabulous faces of women like Vanessa Redgrave, Judi Dench and Helen Mirren, it's a good argument for NO plastic surgery!
I think that, every time a plastic surgeon does REALLY bad work on a celebrity, their name should go into a database, so potential patients (famous of not) know to avoid them.
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Post by Kao on Oct 18, 2022 21:28:50 GMT
Sometimes it's just good genes. I saw a picture of Willow, her mom Jada Pinkett, and her mother and it was like "Wow, I see where it comes from." Mama Pinkett is in her 70s and looks marvelous, Jada and Willow don't have to fear getting older lol.
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Post by MissScarlet on Oct 18, 2022 22:26:42 GMT
Michelle Pfeiffer is my gold standard for aging beautifully. If she's had anything done, it doesn't look obvious or garish like Madonna, Mickey Roarke, etc. Halle Berry, Cindy Crawford, Angela Bassett, JLo, Sharon Stone, Jennifer Aniston - all over 50 and still gorgeous, IMO. Nothing wrong with some fillers or Botox, but there's a line between refreshed and cartoon character. Madonna hopped alll the way over that line. Jamie Leigh Curtis is mine. She's let her hair be grey & embraces it. She also hasn't had any plastic surgery (at least as far as I know) and has allowed her face & body age gracefully. She IS aging gracefully too. She looks lovely and beautiful. She doesn't look old or worn out. More actresses & actors too, should do this. Too many of them have had so many nips, tucks, fillers & injections, that not only don't they look like themselves anymore, but many don't even look human. Yes, I'm talking about you, Kardashians. They look like manequins or wax figures. Their bodies don't look real, and their faces/lips don't look normal at all. I've often said about Kylie K, that she looks like her morning ritual involves a bicycle pump. I prefer Jamie's look. Beautiful but not artificial.
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 18, 2022 22:47:55 GMT
Michelle Pfeiffer is my gold standard for aging beautifully. If she's had anything done, it doesn't look obvious or garish like Madonna, Mickey Roarke, etc. Halle Berry, Cindy Crawford, Angela Bassett, JLo, Sharon Stone, Jennifer Aniston - all over 50 and still gorgeous, IMO. Nothing wrong with some fillers or Botox, but there's a line between refreshed and cartoon character. Madonna hopped alll the way over that line. Jamie Leigh Curtis is mine. She's let her hair be grey & embraces it. She also hasn't had any plastic surgery (at least as far as I know) and has allowed her face & body age gracefully. She IS aging gracefully too. She looks lovely and beautiful. She doesn't look old or worn out. More actresses & actors too, should do this. Too many of them have had so many nips, tucks, fillers & injections, that not only don't they look like themselves anymore, but many don't even look human. Yes, I'm talking about you, Kardashians. They look like manequins or wax figures. Their bodies don't look real, and their faces/lips don't look normal at all. I've often said about Kylie K, that she looks like her morning ritual involves a bicycle pump. I prefer Jamie's look. Beautiful but not artificial. She had plastic surgery, and botox etc but it didn't make her feel good.
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 18, 2022 23:30:54 GMT
I just saw an article about Drew Barrymore. I don't think she has work, yet she looks great and like a 48 year old woman!
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Post by nennie on Oct 19, 2022 3:36:55 GMT
Sad to say so many people can't be themselves. Our skin wasn't made to stretch and tighten by cosmetic surgery. Something will give somewhere. It ages as we age. What is even sadder is the ones who were naturally pretty felt the need to do cosmetic surgery and then it was botched and now don't even look natural or like themselves. I saw a picture of Marie Osmond the other day and she doesn't even look much like herself. She was so pretty and why she felt the need to enhance is beyond me.
I always say I earned every gray hair and wrinkle I have. I wear it proudly. My gray hair is really blondish white and I have people tell me all the time do you know how much people pay to get your color.
It's funny that the subject of cosmetic surgery is being discussed because my soapbox lately has been why do young girls feel the need to have super long fake eyelashes, super long hair extensions, over filled lip injections and the list goes on. It's all fake, I just want real. We live in a superficial world. It makes me sad. BTW the cost of all this fake stuff is astronomical. Disclaimer: this is just my opinion.
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Post by MissGriss on Oct 19, 2022 6:02:15 GMT
I don't get the obsession with super long fake eyelashes either! They don't even look good. They just look fake! So strange!
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Post by libgirl2 on Oct 19, 2022 13:59:53 GMT
I don't get the obsession with super long fake eyelashes either! They don't even look good. They just look fake! So strange! I like long lashes but I buy mascara!
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Post by dagwood on Oct 19, 2022 14:15:05 GMT
Sometimes it's just good genes. I saw a picture of Willow, her mom Jada Pinkett, and her mother and it was like "Wow, I see where it comes from." Mama Pinkett is in her 70s and looks marvelous, Jada and Willow don't have to fear getting older lol. I agree, Jada is beautiful. She even rocks the bald look.
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Post by Kao on Oct 19, 2022 18:40:10 GMT
Tom Brady is now crying on Kevin Durant's podcast that he "finds it nearly impossible to focus on his personal life 6 months of the year" and compared football season to being deployed. We know Tom, and that is why Giselle is leaving your ass. She's not exactly a sweet peach either but she might as well be raising those kids by herself, and no one deserves a partner who has obviously checked out.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2022 18:50:28 GMT
Tom Brady is now crying on Kevin Durant's podcast that he "finds it nearly impossible to focus on his personal life 6 months of the year" and compared football season to being deployed. We know Tom, and that is why Giselle is leaving your ass. She's not exactly a sweet peach either but she might as well be raising those kids by herself, and no one deserves a partner who has obviously checked out. This comment by Brady has just INSULTED every single member of the US Military that was ever DEPLOYED. Brady is an IDIOT. A FOOL. A MORON. I cannot even begin to tell you the number of times and the number of years my Brother spent OVERSEAS. He never once compared his deployments to being in the NFL. GIVE ME A BREAK. This CRAP just pisses the sh&t out of me. Oh and BTW those deployed in the Military do NOT make the MILLIONS/BILLIONS that Brady has made. IDIOT FOOL JERK MORON. period.
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Post by dagwood on Oct 19, 2022 19:40:57 GMT
Tom Brady is now crying on Kevin Durant's podcast that he "finds it nearly impossible to focus on his personal life 6 months of the year" and compared football season to being deployed. We know Tom, and that is why Giselle is leaving your ass. She's not exactly a sweet peach either but she might as well be raising those kids by herself, and no one deserves a partner who has obviously checked out. This comment by Brady has just INSULTED every single member of the US Military that was ever DEPLOYED. Brady is an IDIOT. A FOOL. A MORON. I cannot even begin to tell you the number of times and the number of years my Brother spent OVERSEAS. He never once compared his deployments to being in the NFL. GIVE ME A BREAK. This CRAP just pisses the sh&t out of me. Oh and BTW those deployed in the Military do NOT make the MILLIONS/BILLIONS that Brady has made. IDIOT FOOL JERK MORON. period. Don't hold back your feelings, it's not good for you.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2022 20:15:57 GMT
This comment by Brady has just INSULTED every single member of the US Military that was ever DEPLOYED. Brady is an IDIOT. A FOOL. A MORON. I cannot even begin to tell you the number of times and the number of years my Brother spent OVERSEAS. He never once compared his deployments to being in the NFL. GIVE ME A BREAK. This CRAP just pisses the sh&t out of me. Oh and BTW those deployed in the Military do NOT make the MILLIONS/BILLIONS that Brady has made. IDIOT FOOL JERK MORON. period. Don't hold back your feelings, it's not good for you. dagwood .... I am from New England ... Brady ditched us ... I am still mad. So he can go pound sand. I could say more but FoRT is G rated.
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Post by Kao on Oct 19, 2022 20:27:18 GMT
He's been looking a right mess lately too. Why are you so upset at your wife finally leaving you when you basically ignored your family and didn't bother to give her attention in the first place?
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2022 20:33:25 GMT
He's been looking a right mess lately too. Why are you so upset at your wife finally leaving you when you basically ignored your family and didn't bother to give her attention in the first place?TRUTH!!! Brady promised her he was retiring at 40yo. All New England fans prepared for his retirement. He is now 45yo and has flip flopped back and forth since his 40th birthday. Giselle is amazing. She has supported him 100%. Quitting her job at VS (years ago) to be there for their children and for Jack who she loves as much as her own.
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Post by Cuddles on Oct 19, 2022 21:08:31 GMT
Forgive me for going back to the topic of aging in the public eye amidst momrek06's stellar rant, but I wouldn't mind being Cher.
FROM.HEAD.TO.TOE.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 19, 2022 21:21:40 GMT
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Post by FannyMare on Oct 19, 2022 21:30:21 GMT
I have a green smoothie every morning, and I don't look like that. I love the colour of her hair now.
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