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Post by kiz on Jun 4, 2019 1:20:37 GMT
I saw the leaked video today showing that James was going to lose this evening on Jeopardy. So I was prepared, but I still couldn't help but feel a little bummed when I actually watched the show. Ken Jennings record is still intact.
I know some fans of the show didn't appreciate his gameplay, but I was truly impressed by his width and depth of knowledge, as well as his strategy.
He was both a gracious winner and loser (if you can call having a 2 mill dollar+ payday losing).
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2019 2:17:10 GMT
He is certainly an awesome combo of confidence and humility. This was the first game where it seemed he wasn’t doing the courageous bets he’s known for - and he was up against a woman who was using his style with the high risk bets. A small part of me actually wondered if he decided not to try in order to leave Ken Jennings on top.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 4, 2019 4:42:00 GMT
I love that he walked over and gave her a high-five after he folded and she won. His final bet was so low considering his usual stake and he got the answer right. I wonder if he did it on purpose - he was ready to leave.  Alex marveled that all three only missed one answer through both boards. |
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2019 9:45:29 GMT
I love that he walked over and gave her a high-five after he folded and she won. His final bet was so low considering his usual stake and he got the answer right. I wonder if he did it on purpose - he was ready to leave. Alex marveled that all three only missed one answer through both boards. I can't shake the idea that he was ready to go. It has to be tough to keep going back and forth for tapings - especially with a small child. The timing was perfect as it kept him in #2 behind Ken Jennings ... which also means that in time he'll get to live with more privacy and anonymity. Emma was fantastic, and it's amazing that they had a game with only one wrong answer. But his bets were so out of character that it's hard to believe he wasn't ready for it. |
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jun 4, 2019 11:22:34 GMT
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Post by Brooks on Jun 4, 2019 11:56:44 GMT
He is certainly an awesome combo of confidence and humility. This was the first game where it seemed he wasn’t doing the courageous bets he’s known for - and he was up against a woman who was using his style with the high risk bets. A small part of me actually wondered if he decided not to try in order to leave Ken Jennings on top. I thought it was pretty clear he played to lose towards the end and that it may have been in homage to Jennings. I'm sure he'll play against Jennings some day.
Not happy at all that CBS evening news gave it away. They did warn it was a spoiler alert, but what else could the spoiler possibly have been.
Tapings are something like 5 shows/day twice a week and then no tapings the following week. So it's not like he was away every day this past month but his wife and daughter were probably ready for him to be home.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2019 13:03:44 GMT
He is certainly an awesome combo of confidence and humility. This was the first game where it seemed he wasn’t doing the courageous bets he’s known for - and he was up against a woman who was using his style with the high risk bets. A small part of me actually wondered if he decided not to try in order to leave Ken Jennings on top. I thought it was pretty clear he played to lose towards the end and that it may have been in homage to Jennings. I'm sure he'll play against Jennings some day.
Not happy at all that CBS evening news gave it away. They did warn it was a spoiler alert, but what else could the spoiler possibly have been.
Tapings are something like 5 shows/day twice a week and then no tapings the following week. So it's not like he was away every day this past month but his wife and daughter were probably ready for him to be home.
There were a lot of news organizations that gave it away - it kind of couldn't be helped since the show airs as early as 9:30 in the morning some places. I was irritated at my dad at first for emailing it to me - but as I was watching it I realized that I kind of liked knowing what would happen so I could pick up on things like the out of character "only $1000" first daily double bet to open the game. Then I also had to realize that I do love sharing viewing Jeopardy with my dad, so at least while he spoiled it, it was our sharing the show! |
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Post by Brooks on Jun 4, 2019 13:32:03 GMT
I agree I was watching more carefully than I would have if I hadn't known, I just didn't think it was CBS' business to spoil one of their own shows. It's not like Olympics spoilers where you really don't know who would have won. There was only one reason to spoil last night and that was to announce Jeopardy James' overthrow.
Sweet that Alec acknowledged the get well card James' daughter wrote him, and probably before the encouraging news Alex received about his cancer.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 4, 2019 13:35:54 GMT
I think that now it would be very appropriate that when Alex gets to his final show before his retirement, if they have Ken Jennings, James, and a third to be named later come back for the final competition.
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Post by waywyrd on Jun 4, 2019 14:12:30 GMT
I wasn't terribly happy about being spoiled yesterday, either. Sad to see James go, he was fun to watch.
I'd love to see James, Ken, and Austin play one day.
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Post by annifran on Jun 4, 2019 16:59:11 GMT
What I find interesting is that James had a total of $23,400 at the end of the game to risk, which if he doubled the bet he would have ended up with $46,800. The female who beat him, after answering the question correctly, ended up with a final total of $46,801 -- $1 more than James could possibly have won.
With him being the great mathematician he is, he possibly placed his bet taking the chance the female would know the correct answer and come out ahead of him. He was great with odds and figures. He just wasn't lucky last night with selecting the Double Jeopardy questions which kept his totals lower than usual.
I heard (or read) speculation yesterday that he deliberately lost possibly because this final show was taped in March and he wanted to get back to Las Vegas to participate in the casino March Madness betting.
In any event, he had a great run and the game will forever be changed in how it's played.
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Post by Brooks on Jun 4, 2019 17:14:08 GMT
For me it wasn't just his final bet. I thought he pulled back half way through Double Jeopardy. He's very accomplished with the clicker. Emma knew the answers but surely he did too. So did he let her go on a streak towards the end?
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Post by acookertv on Jun 5, 2019 0:12:25 GMT
She said tonight they were in the same qualifying class. So he may have known her skill going in and saw his chance to bow out.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jun 5, 2019 0:20:39 GMT
What made the difference for her was that she found the two Daily Doubles before he did in Double Jeopardy. DD's were important to his ability to jump ahead of the pack. All three of them were picking categories using his method, high amounts first. He's mortal, he had to lose eventually.
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Post by ccl on Jun 13, 2019 0:46:54 GMT
James did not lose intentionally. For the first Daily Double he could only bet 1000 as he didn’t have the money to bet more. And Emma got the other daily doubles so he wasn’t able to vastly increase his monies as he had been doing As for Emma losing after three games : The woman who beat Ken Jennings only won that episode. These things happen. I feel that to say he lost on purpose does a disservice to Emma.
I was not really a big fan of James’s episodes. He seems like a very nice person but day after day of runaways is boring to me. He will be back for the Tournament of Champions. And maybe they’ll have a special where he goes against Ken (most episodes won) and Brad Rutter (most total money ever won on Jeopardy).
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Post by Brooks on Jun 13, 2019 12:13:08 GMT
Thinking back, where I thought James was letting up was the second half of the Daily Doubles. After 32 days practice, hard to believe Emma was able to beat him on the buzzer throughout so many of the last questions.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jun 20, 2019 23:38:01 GMT
Holey Moley premieres tonight at 8PM ET on ABC - a mini-golf game show! I'm intrigued...
Family Food Fight is on after Holey Moley.
The Wall is no NBC tonight, but it looks like a rerun. But a new season is coming soon.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 21, 2019 0:11:10 GMT
The Curry's have an ABC block between them. He is an executive producer of Holey Moley and she is host for Family Food Fight. They are becoming the go to A-list multi-talented couple.
Oh, I like that Kenny Florian (cage fighter and host of Battlebots) is a commentator along with Reigle. They should be a fun duo.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Jun 21, 2019 1:07:53 GMT
I forgot about Spin The Wheel, which is on now on FOX.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 21, 2019 1:09:13 GMT
It looks to be like Wheel of Fortune without the Hangman Game and with a gigantic vertical wheel.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Jun 21, 2019 1:24:53 GMT
Highly competitive people don't throw a game so the other person gets to keep the record. It's an insult to the record holder.
I'm talking about individual play in any situation, rather than group play. It would be like Hank Aaron deciding, in honor of Ruth, he would slow down his homerun production, intentionally , so Ruth could keep the record. But, records are made to be broken.
James was beat fair and square and that's because he made mathematical mistakes when wagering. .
I personally didn't like watching him as he struck me as cold and robotic. He also broke the gentlepersons agreement that running all the big numbers across the board is 'unsportsmanlike.'
He also employed analytics. He practiced buzzer speed at home for over a year. And the ability to buzz in quickly can determine the winner-the others may have the right answer , but they aren't quick enough to beat his speed.
Oddly enough , there is a short story , written many years ago about a Jeopardy contestant=t who doesn't lose the game for over a year. I think it's entitled "All The Small Animals." Her winning streak has all kinds of implications, including the decay of the show.
I have no interest in a professional gambler as a contestant on a game show as they aren't really there to play the game, so much as to beat the system.
Jeopardy used to employ a limit of games a contestant could win. I think it was five. They need to go back to that.
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Post by Arielflies on Jun 21, 2019 3:25:37 GMT
James just made a donation in Alex Trebek's name to a group that is sponsoring a walk to fund Pancreatic Cancer Research.
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Post by springmaiden27 on Jun 21, 2019 5:29:20 GMT
Family Food Fight was fun to watch. Likes the White & Graves families the best. Looking forward to seeing how they progress this summer.
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Post by Brooks on Jun 21, 2019 12:39:40 GMT
I don't see how working to seek out the daily doubles and for as high winnings as possible before the daily doubles are found is in any way unsportsmanlike in Jeopardy. Where his gambling background helped was not being intimidated by a high wager. And I don't understand what mathematical mistake in wagering he made that last episode. The only daily double he found was the very first question, and assuming Emma maximized her wager on Final Jeopardy it didn't matter what he put down.
Maybe he didn't throw the last game but I don't think he was working at full capability at the end. He could have just been tired, slower reactions than usual.
I think he had some ideas about how to play the game and it worked until he was up against a very good contestant who also by chance landed the more important double jeopardy questions. He certainly knew an amazing amount based on his very low incorrect score. I like that he shook up the game, and also that he has moved on.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 21, 2019 12:47:48 GMT
Highly competitive people don't throw a game so the other person gets to keep the record. It's an insult to the record holder. I'm talking about individual play in any situation, rather than group play. It would be like Hank Aaron deciding, in honor of Ruth, he would slow down his homerun production, intentionally , so Ruth could keep the record. But, records are made to be broken. James was beat fair and square and that's because he made mathematical mistakes when wagering. . I personally didn't like watching him as he struck me as cold and robotic. He also broke the gentlepersons agreement that running all the big numbers across the board is 'unsportsmanlike.' He also employed analytics. He practiced buzzer speed at home for over a year. And the ability to buzz in quickly can determine the winner-the others may have the right answer , but they aren't quick enough to beat his speed. Oddly enough , there is a short story , written many years ago about a Jeopardy contestant=t who doesn't lose the game for over a year. I think it's entitled "All The Small Animals." Her winning streak has all kinds of implications, including the decay of the show. I have no interest in a professional gambler as a contestant on a game show as they aren't really there to play the game, so much as to beat the system. Jeopardy used to employ a limit of games a contestant could win. I think it was five. They need to go back to that. The big difference between Hank Aaron and James is in the impact on anonymity. Being a celebrity did not impact Aaron's ability to hit a baseball. On the other hand, James knew that no matter how long he kept winning on Jeopardy, it would not be a life long career and could end at any time. He'd made comments about how the fame he was getting from Jeopardy could start having an impact on his presence in casinos. That's something he had to take into account. Further, there are some people who are great at their fields of play, but decide that the impact on being away from family etc is not worth it, and they walk away. There are sacrifices that James had to make to be on Jeopardy - like anyone. People differ in their willingness to make those sacrifices. If he decided he liked the life he had before Jeopardy just fine, and had enough money to make his life great after Jeopardy he MIGHT have decided that his life was more valuable than the winning streak. If he did, more power to him. I think that the way he disappeared from the public eye after losing - doing one print interview and that being it - supports the belief that he valued his privacy enough to want to be away from the fame. Lord knows he could have done the talk show circuit if he wanted to. |
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Post by justCoz on Jun 21, 2019 13:35:42 GMT
I don't think James threw that last game. He just didn't get to capitalize on double jeopardy questions like normal, and IIRC there were very few wrong answers from the other contestants. In watching the other games, he wasn't always first to the buzzer (although often was) but he was very good at buzzing in with the correct answer when a question was missed.
He had come close to being beaten before, this was just the first time that someone was ahead of him going into the final round (I think, I saw almost all of his games, except like two.). His last wager even makes sense to me from an analytical viewpoint. He could not beat her unless she missed that final question. He bet enough to beat her if she missed it, but had wagered nothing, but he didn't bet too much in case he didn't know the answer but the 3rd place guy did.
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Post by Brooks on Nov 13, 2019 15:23:02 GMT
Anyone watching Jeopardy's Tournament of Champions? Can't help but wonder if this is Alex's last tournament and if the schedule might have been moved up. Not a surprise that James Holzhauer will be in the finals.
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Post by ccl on Nov 13, 2019 18:07:50 GMT
As will Emma, the person who beat him. Time for a rematch.
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Post by Arielflies on Nov 14, 2019 15:28:25 GMT
It was filmed around the time of his new diagnosis. He is back on chemo and it is as if all the contestants are saying good-bye in some shape or form. Last night they honored a fellow champion who died from pancreatic cancer. That is why they are all wearing purple ribbons...but, you can't help but think it is a nod to Alex as well.
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Post by Arielflies on Nov 17, 2019 1:48:32 GMT
Congratulations James, though Emma gave him a run for the money on the second night. If she had had a higher number on the first night, she might have won. However, he did run away with the game.
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