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Post by Midol on Mar 9, 2022 2:57:11 GMT
I hope all three watching this back realize what an a** he is. I hope he is alone. He deserves it.
Susie...STOP!!! Stop trying to apologize. It is not your fault. What an a**hole. For me, he has officially taken that title from Jake the Fake...and I never thought that would happen!
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Post by judith on Mar 9, 2022 2:57:43 GMT
Someone needs to jump in that car with her and reassure her that she was 100 percent right.
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 9, 2022 2:58:06 GMT
SHE invalidated everything?? "You're putting this on me now?" he says??? WHAT on earth? He's being horrible to her! Poor girl is thinking it's all her fault. He's walking her out because HE is done. Wow.
He's a big fat loser!!!!!
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Post by waywyrd on Mar 9, 2022 2:59:08 GMT
If she was your person why didn't you keep your pecker in your pants??
This clown has me wanting to throw things at the TV.
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Post by Midol on Mar 9, 2022 3:01:02 GMT
What??? Is he blaming his father in the previews? He is so horrible.
I hope none of them end up with him. All of them are too good for him. Stand firm ladies. He needs a good a** kicking!!!
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Post by judith on Mar 9, 2022 3:05:11 GMT
At least with Jake it was clear all along that he was a fake and a jerk. This guy has managed to keep up the pretense that he's just a big goofy smiling lovable eejit... right up til he started blaming HER for things going wrong. I hope she can see very clearly by now that she dodged a bullet. And by the way, if that's her coming back next week, knocking at the door, then she deserves all the pain this idiot will inflict for however long they are together.
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Post by Midol on Mar 9, 2022 3:15:02 GMT
Well, the AFTR should be interesting. All three will have seen this and every other idiotic thing he has done all season. Susie will have time to process what he said and I hope she doesn't cave.
What a horrible, horrible lead and a truly awful season.
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 9, 2022 3:24:12 GMT
Yep, I actually felt a little bit bad for him all season, with the criticism online, then at the WTA, thinking he just was in over his head and didn't know what he was getting into. Well, that's done. I can't stand the guy and can't imagine him apologizing enough to make up for it, ever. Someone online said his "true colors" apology tour starts tomorrow!  But he said he'd be going on a social media hiatus for a while knowing what's coming. Whoever said that the girls at the WTA like Teddi who said they knew things, were probably told to say that by producers, and say they hope he's okay, was right on. I can't imagine Teddi knowing what he REALLY did, then being so sympathetic now and concerned for HIM. I hope she comes out and says something in support of Susie. In an earlier interview, Jesse said this about the ending: "It's not as formulaic as what we've seen in recent seasons, but I think that's a little bit refreshing about him." REFRESHING? I'll go with their "most dramatic" wording, but there's no way it's refreshing to see a grown man treat someone he "loves" in such a horrible way. My heart breaks for her.
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Post by cavendish on Mar 9, 2022 3:50:20 GMT
wow-- This is refreshing???
Seeing a grown man somehow convince a heartbroken and very vulnerable woman of his absolutely shameless idea that he is in a position to feel justified and righteous iabout her response??? Is this guy for real? . This strikes me as almost psychopathic. I've heard of blaming the victim-- but this claiming that you're the victim instead? That's a bridge to far for me.
And what a bunch of doubletalk, I would almost say this guy should audition not to be the Bachelor, but to play the voice of Big Brother -- This truly is truth is lies and betrayal only gives her a chance to prove her love. I have never heard such amazingly twisted and self-serving logic.
I'm speechless. Um--- NO fellow, you-re the one who needs to prove that you're not a lying, insincere user.
She should kick this guy to the curb so fast it would make his head spin. I can;t even watch this--- it's just too repulsive and insulting.
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Post by mayamaisha on Mar 9, 2022 4:06:32 GMT
She destroyed him???😡🤬  He’s a dumbarse. Susie you did the right thing!
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 9, 2022 4:42:58 GMT
I'm absolutely shocked at what a misogynistic delusional clod he is. How dare he blame HER?! She refused to be his third in his trifecta of women he could "try out" before he could "reward" the one who did the best job. And HE blames HER?
Apparently he thinks its perfectly OK to supposedly be in love with someone & have sex with multiple others. She's expected to think that's fine. Not only that, but expected to go ahead & complete his trifecta. I don't think so buddy.
HE's the one who should be taking full responsibility for his rotten selfish hurtful decisions. Not her. He should be grovelling & begging for forgiveness. What the heck, even throw in some of those tears he likes so well. She did absolutely nothing wrong. NOTHING! She had standards. Not even exceptionally high standards. Just normal should be expected standards.
Plus, he's angry that she didn't tell him her perfectly normal expectations earlier? Should she also have told him she expected not to be literally stabbed in the back with a knife? Should she also have told him her standards were that he shouldn't be an axe murderer? An animal abuser? An embezzler? Already married? NO!!! These are things it's perfectly OK & normal to expect that he's not. Including being sexually faithful to the one he supposedly loved. Some things should just be taken for granted.
I'm just so doggone sick of these men who seem to think that women are here on earth to be used & discarded. And then they should be happy about it? No respect for women at all. I have absolutely no respect for this guy at all. He's not just a doofus. That I could accept. He's a selfish, uncaring, misogynistic jerk.
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Post by tapper01 on Mar 9, 2022 21:22:54 GMT
I like in the previews his dad told him he screwed the pooch
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 9, 2022 23:40:09 GMT
If he comes to his senses (I doubt it, as he seems to be devoid of any sense or maturity) and goes after Susie to get her back, and she comes back (thinking of that scene shown in the trailer of him knocking on someone's door), then she is a worse doofus than he is. Every woman who saw the psychological abuse he inflicted on her should avoid him like the plague. If he picked Gabby or Rachel, she should immediately break up with his ass and RUN! How is this train wreck going to be stretched over two nights next week?
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 10, 2022 0:38:07 GMT
If he comes to his senses (I doubt it, as he seems to be devoid of any sense or maturity) and goes after Susie to get her back, and she comes back (thinking of that scene shown in the trailer of him knocking on someone's door), then she is a worse doofus than he is. Every woman who saw the psychological abuse he inflicted on her should avoid him like the plague. If he picked Gabby or Rachel, she should immediately break up with his ass and RUN! How is this train wreck going to be stretched over two nights next week? I read somewhere a while ago, that he told an interviewer they had to add extra time on to the season's last episodes to fit everything in that went on. Good God, what are we in for?
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Post by Critical on Mar 10, 2022 1:03:25 GMT
My mom and I messageed back and forth during the episode and we agree: Clayton is officially The Worst Bachelor. Ever. Worse than Juan Pablo and even Colton. Just The Worst. This is the first time in the entire franchise where I'm debating not watching the finale. I HATE him. NOne of these girls deserve this treatment.
If the drinking game this season was to drink every time anyone said, "like," people would be dead. It's been painful to listen to grown adults who are incapable of communicating without sounding like teenagers.
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Post by waywyrd on Mar 10, 2022 1:47:36 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now. 
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Post by Critical on Mar 10, 2022 2:34:55 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  Same 
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 10, 2022 2:45:25 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  
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Post by Midol on Mar 10, 2022 6:15:19 GMT
www.iheart.com/podcast/139-the-ben-and-ashley-28165481/episode/clayton-tells-all-93919424/As if I didn't dislike him enough! For the start of his apology/explanation tour, he did Ben and Ashley Almost Famous Podcast where Ashley asked him to explain his "more in love" comment about Suzie. Yes, he had more love for her, but if they had gone to the fantasy suite and they weren't sexually compatible, he would have shifted back to either Rachel or Gabby. He would have then been more in love with one of them because sexual compatibility/chemistry is very important to him and he can't get engaged with out it. Who gives a crap is she is a nice person, with similar values and sense of humor. He had chemistry with her up to then, but if she didn't excite little Clayton enough in that FS, well, all bets are off. So basically he would be in love with whoever was the best in bed. Jerk!
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Post by mayamaisha on Mar 10, 2022 14:16:58 GMT
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Post by provenceguy on Mar 10, 2022 16:10:47 GMT
Boy,Clayton has never been attractive to me at all, but now he is even worse because his personality is downright scary. And I felt intimidated by his hulk when he was spouting off, too.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 10, 2022 16:23:06 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  I get why everyone is upset with this guy but isn't this an indirect spoiler because it leaves no doubt how this all ends?
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 10, 2022 19:36:01 GMT
This guy just keeps digging his hole deeper. You'd think the show would have a PR person (preferable female) to consult with him as to what to say & what not to say during interviews. Saying that love or even attraction has nothing to do with it, and that whoever gives "little Clay-un" the jollies best gets picked, is just so off-putting. Like I said before, he just wants to reward the one who does the best job in the FS, after trying them all out. It's sickening. Saying that if Suzie, who he supposedly loved "most", didn't do the best job in the FS, he would have dumped her for the one who did, destroyed any respect that I had left for him. I say he should stay away from regular women & go "shopping" in a house of prostitution. At this point he should just keep his big mouth shut & keep his misogynistic views to himself. He's only making himself look worse, if that's possible. I'll be interested to see not just the Finale, but how all 3 women react to all of this at ATFR, if they're on. Especially seeing who gets picked for Bachelorette. How she reacts to all of this will determine whether I watch her season or not.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 10, 2022 22:12:28 GMT
I hope at some point he stops saying to himself, "That's not who I am," and accepts that clearly sometimes it is, since it's who he was in that moment.
I know sometimes I have moments of lashing out towards people I love and immediately regretting it. It's not all of who I am, but it's certainly part of me, and the only way to work on not having it be part of me is acknowledging it, figuring out why I'm doing it, and coming up with a strategy for not letting it happen in the future. Acting like that's the only time it's ever happened is not honest on his part.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 10, 2022 22:36:58 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  I get why everyone is upset with this guy but isn't this an indirect spoiler because it leaves no doubt how this all ends? What did I miss? I have no idea how it ends. I know how I'd like it to end, though - Clayton gets his stupid a$$ kicked by the remaining women, but I suppose they don't know how he treated Susie. Maybe ATFR will be better than the FRC. Did anyone see him on the Drew Barrymore show today? Very interesting.
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Post by Cuddles on Mar 11, 2022 0:25:24 GMT
I get why everyone is upset with this guy but isn't this an indirect spoiler because it leaves no doubt how this all ends? What did I miss? I have no idea how it ends. I know how I'd like it to end, though - Clayton gets his stupid a$$ kicked by the remaining women, but I suppose they don't know how he treated Susie. Maybe ATFR will be better than the FRC. Did anyone see him on the Drew Barrymore show today? Very interesting. One can easily deduce [arrive at (a fact or a conclusion) by reasoning; draw as a logical conclusion] if he ends up engaged after reading that post. That's all I am saying.
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Post by MissScarlet on Mar 11, 2022 1:02:53 GMT
I hope at some point he stops saying to himself, "That's not who I am," and accepts that clearly sometimes it is, since it's who he was in that moment. I know sometimes I have moments of lashing out towards people I love and immediately regretting it. It's not all of who I am, but it's certainly part of me, and the only way to work on not having it be part of me is acknowledging it, figuring out why I'm doing it, and coming up with a strategy for not letting it happen in the future. Acting like that's the only time it's ever happened is not honest on his part. That's what I call Opening Your Mouth & Stupid Falls Out. We've all done it. In fact we've done it more than once. What he did was far worse. He just kept going & blamed her & than acted like it was him dumping her & that it was her being a disappointment. Now he's continuing the verbal assault by insisting that what he did/said was perfectly OK & justified. That's where he went waaaayyyy over the line. He totally devalued her, her feelings, and her opinions. He needed, and still needs to apologize to both Suzie and women in general. Most of all, this guy just needs to shut up. He needs to stay away from interviews for a while.
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Post by waywyrd on Mar 11, 2022 12:26:27 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  I get why everyone is upset with this guy but isn't this an indirect spoiler because it leaves no doubt how this all ends? No, it's not. All I said is that I'm looking forward to the finale. Real spoilers are in the spoiler thread for anyone who wants to know why.
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Post by AlwaysVeg on Mar 13, 2022 4:29:11 GMT
What did I miss? I have no idea how it ends. I know how I'd like it to end, though - Clayton gets his stupid a$$ kicked by the remaining women, but I suppose they don't know how he treated Susie. Maybe ATFR will be better than the FRC. Did anyone see him on the Drew Barrymore show today? Very interesting. One can easily deduce [arrive at (a fact or a conclusion) by reasoning; draw as a logical conclusion] if he ends up engaged after reading that post. That's all I am saying. I wouldn't have deduced any particular outcome from the post, but now that you've posted this, I would! LOL! Actually, his little speech on the Drew Barrymore show was more of a spoiler than anything. I'm surprised they let him say so much, and wish he hadn't. I said from the beginning that he was a lousy pick for the Bachelor, not because I could predict what he did to Susie, but just because I didn't see him as any kind of catch for any woman. Looks, no. Job, no. Intelligence, no. Personality, no. Nothing attractive whatsoever. I have no idea why all those women were knocking themselves out to "win" him.
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Post by tapper01 on Mar 14, 2022 1:35:18 GMT
He IS the worst, I think. But I spoiled myself on the ending and I'm definitely watching the finale now.  okay- please spoil me I just saw a preview and he told the girls which ever one he picked he loved more. WTAF
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