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Post by Bearcata on Sept 16, 2022 2:19:14 GMT
Wow! What an interesting article. And it does make sense...why didn't they time out? We didn't see Sarah complete the soduku. I feel like if Cayla, who does it all the time had a hard time, Sarah would as well? And the stealing of clothing? Wow! I had thought the winner would get 500k too, not split it. I got that the money would be split, they word exactly like they do on the regular Challenge. If there is to be one winner, than they do say winner take all.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 16, 2022 3:12:38 GMT
Cayla got hypothermia trying to do the Sodoku puzzle.
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Post by beerbelly on Sept 16, 2022 10:32:31 GMT
Cayla got hypothermia trying to do the Sodoku puzzle. WOW! That is no joke. That is really dangerous.
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Post by allornothing on Sept 16, 2022 12:12:18 GMT
Cayla got hypothermia trying to do the Sodoku puzzle. Oh man! That's awful. I was rooting for her the most out of everyone. I hope the weather was unpredictable and they didn't intentionally expose them to the elements like that unprepared. I am not surprised, that is a lot of tough, tough people who quit. I think Danny had a huge advantage by being able to solve that puzzle quickly. I like him so happy he did so!
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 16, 2022 14:03:50 GMT
I was curious, I had never done soduku so found program online. Spent a good 5 to 6 hours playing last night.
It is a bit confusing especially if you have no instructions. It is bascially nine grids made up of 3 rows and 3 columns that contain the numbers 1 through 9. The pattern the Challenge instructions gave do nothing for your understanding how to play. I read several strategies and started playing using a notebook to help me keep track of the numbers. It took me on average 33 minutes to complete a board. After getting used to the game I went back and reread the beginner strategies and was using 3 methods and got my game down to under 10 minutes.
I then decided to what the soduku portion of the Challenge and wrote down the numbers on Tyson's grid. Putting it down on paper and trying to figure it out that way totally stumped me and I still can't figure it out. On Tyson's board he has 3 complete rows of numbers which makes this incredibly easy but I still am stumped. If you have never played sodoku and there are no instructions and no time out you will be at that board for hours and hours.
So I get why most of the folks couldn't do it.
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Post by beerbelly on Sept 16, 2022 16:11:55 GMT
Agreed. Funny, I had the urge to try my hand at soduku too. If you didn't have instructions, there would be no way to figure it out. In this article, there is a picture of the puzzle Tyson had to solve (with the solution): soapdirt.com/the-challenge-usa-tyson-apostol-sudoku-puzzle/Now I am really skeptical that Sarah really solved it.
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Post by allornothing on Sept 16, 2022 16:36:04 GMT
Agreed. Funny, I had the urge to try my hand at soduku too. If you didn't have instructions, there would be no way to figure it out. In this article, there is a picture of the puzzle Tyson had to solve (with the solution): soapdirt.com/the-challenge-usa-tyson-apostol-sudoku-puzzle/Now I am really skeptical that Sarah really solved it. I've done Suduku in the past. Thanks for the link, I am gonig to try Tyson's puzzle.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 16, 2022 17:03:46 GMT
Agreed. Funny, I had the urge to try my hand at soduku too. If you didn't have instructions, there would be no way to figure it out. In this article, there is a picture of the puzzle Tyson had to solve (with the solution): soapdirt.com/the-challenge-usa-tyson-apostol-sudoku-puzzle/Now I am really skeptical that Sarah really solved it. I've done Suduku in the past. Thanks for the link, I am gonig to try Tyson's puzzle. If Sarah does sodoku all the time with her son than you have a methodology in place and can do it. However that snapshot they showed of Tyson's board is not an easy grid it is more a medium to hard puzzle and the Challenge is not that vicious, at least on the flagship show. Justin Booth the producer said that the final was set up to be 30 hours long with little to no sleep. OK if it was that tight schedule why were there no time outs?
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 16, 2022 23:48:16 GMT
If you want listen to MTV's Official Challenge Podcast (I listen on Spotify -- all free).
Devyn and Da'vonne have a great interview with Danny, Sarah, and Kiki. Sarah's a nice person and explains the throat cutting and eating a chicken or turkey leg. OMG what really happens and what is edited is so different. Explains a lot.
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Post by holly on Sept 17, 2022 1:16:23 GMT
What a terrible terrible way to end the season. Now the casts comments before season started about production makes sense. Making rules up as you go, intentionally not being clear, rules applying to one person but not the other over bullshit technicalities. What a shitshow. That’s reality tv for ya. Enzo Enzo. The house all knew he sucked and they kept him this long. Besides that, nearly everybody else quit too. Let the old man be. There are tons of podcasts/interviews out from the cast but this article pretty much breaks down the casts overall opinion on this final. Tyson Apostol breaks down The Challenge: USA ending and all those DQsThe Challenge constantly gets accused of rigging from the cast, this final did not do them any favors cause its usually behind the scenes. Either way its my favorite show next to Big Brother so I'll keep watching no matter what. It was a fun ride!! Wow, that article answers some of the questions I had about the final, like why wasn’t there a time-out option? I guess there was, for some people, arbitrarily! Sounds like production really blew a fantastic opportunity to get some new faces on for the flagship show. I doubt most of the final contestants would return after such a sour experience. And stealing people’s clothes?!? I can’t even wrap my head around that one! I’d be pissed too. Even if it wasn’t anything expensive. Sometimes (a lot of times for me) you have a favorite xyz because it’s comfy. I have a favorite comfy sweater that I’ve had for probably a decade & if it got lost or stolen, I can’t replace it. I’m really disappointed about all of this. Surely the flagship show isn’t run poorly the way this was. I certainly hope not.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 17, 2022 6:06:35 GMT
What a terrible terrible way to end the season. Now the casts comments before season started about production makes sense. Making rules up as you go, intentionally not being clear, rules applying to one person but not the other over bullshit technicalities. What a shitshow. That’s reality tv for ya. Enzo Enzo. The house all knew he sucked and they kept him this long. Besides that, nearly everybody else quit too. Let the old man be. There are tons of podcasts/interviews out from the cast but this article pretty much breaks down the casts overall opinion on this final. Tyson Apostol breaks down The Challenge: USA ending and all those DQsThe Challenge constantly gets accused of rigging from the cast, this final did not do them any favors cause its usually behind the scenes. Either way its my favorite show next to Big Brother so I'll keep watching no matter what. It was a fun ride!! Wow, that article answers some of the questions I had about the final, like why wasn’t there a time-out option? I guess there was, for some people, arbitrarily! Sounds like production really blew a fantastic opportunity to get some new faces on for the flagship show. I doubt most of the final contestants would return after such a sour experience. And stealing people’s clothes?!? I can’t even wrap my head around that one! I’d be pissed too. Even if it wasn’t anything expensive. Sometimes (a lot of times for me) you have a favorite xyz because it’s comfy. I have a favorite comfy sweater that I’ve had for probably a decade & if it got lost or stolen, I can’t replace it. I’m really disappointed about all of this. Surely the flagship show isn’t run poorly the way this was. I certainly hope not. I hope someone clarifies all this stuff it was a total mess.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 18, 2022 20:54:48 GMT
Season 1 Episode 11 and 12 - "Home of the Brave" - September 14, 2022
* Note: While Domenick and Tyson both earned 52 points during the Getting Tired Daily Challenge normally on the regular flagship show the winner would have been the person who completed it in the fastest time. Tyson stated on his podcast that Domenick finished before he did. This two winners thing was weird and I don't know why after 22 plus years of the show they would change something like this.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 18, 2022 21:01:33 GMT
Season 1 Episode 11 and 12 - "Home of the Brave" - September 14, 2022 Final ChallengeNote: When Ben was medically DQ'ed, he had hurt his shoulder and knee, the expectation in a normal Challenge final is to either DQ Ben's partner or bring back the previously eliminated male, in this case that would have been David if they wanted 5 teams to run the legs. NEVER in the history of the Challenge have they EVER been nice and let a player run a solo game when it is clearly a partner final. Ben was notified of the medically DQ before they got on the chartered planes to fly to Patagonia so there was time to get David back into the game. ScoreboardCheckpts | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Total | Angela | 2 | 5 | 5 | Quit | NA | NA | Cayla | 5 | 2 | 3 | 4 | Quit | 14 | Desi | DQ | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | Justine | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | Quit | 11 | Sarah | 4 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 10 | 27 | Danny | 5 | 5 | 4 | 3 | 10 | 27 | Domenick | 2 | 3 | 3 | 5 | Quit | 13 | Enzo | Quit | NA | NA | NA | NA | NA | Tyson | 3 | 4 | 5 | 4 | Quit | 16 |
Angela: The rules in a regular Challenge Final are very clear, complete each leg. Do not quit or you will be eliminated. Normally the race is to see who places 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th. If you are in last place they normally will time you out as you are last. The only time they will not let you time out is the food portion where you must finish all the food you are allotted to eat. Also per Tyson Angela's pile of dirt was two thirds of the other players instead of half. Seriously I don't know what happened but finals are normally not this messed up. Interesting if Angela had stayed in the race and only got 2 points for checkpoint 4 and if she finished checkpoint 5 before the other ladies, if Sarah had placed second in leg 5 she would still have won based on points. After a second viewing I noticed in checkpoints 1, 2, and 3 all the players that were in last were timed out. Which makes sense. Checkpoint 4 which was the dig and haul dig started at 10:27pm. Dom and Sarah finished first at 3:37 am. Tyson and Cayla finished second but there time was not given. Danny and Justine finished third at 3:58 am. TJ woke them up about 6:37 am.
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Post by allornothing on Sept 19, 2022 13:05:08 GMT
I forgot to bring Tyson's puzzle home this weekend, but completed it pretty quickly this morning. I first did all the obvious and that only got me a few. Then it was still pretty easy BUT I used that method where . .. if you have 4 available spaces in a row, column, or square . . you put the possibilities in - so 1st empty box is "2 4 6" next is "4 6" 3rd is "4 6" and 4th is "2 4 6 8" - then you automatically know 1st is 6 and 4th is 8 (bc you can take out 4 and 6 since they will be used by box 2 and 3 even if you dont know which in which yet). So if you currently don't Suduko and know of that method I think it would be a lot harder. So it was easy with pen or pencil and paper, not sure you could "see" all that easily with those magnets or whatever they had going on. Also it was warm and dry and I am not tired. So despite completing it very quickly, not sure it would have been the case for me on the mountaintop.
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 19, 2022 15:40:18 GMT
I forgot to bring Tyson's puzzle home this weekend, but completed it pretty quickly this morning. I first did all the obvious and that only got me a few. Then it was still pretty easy BUT I used that method where . .. if you have 4 available spaces in a row, column, or square . . you put the possibilities in - so 1st empty box is "2 4 6" next is "4 6" 3rd is "4 6" and 4th is "2 4 6 8" - then you automatically know 1st is 6 and 4th is 8 (bc you can take out 4 and 6 since they will be used by box 2 and 3 even if you dont know which in which yet). So if you currently don't Suduko and know of that method I think it would be a lot harder. So it was easy with pen or pencil and paper, not sure you could "see" all that easily with those magnets or whatever they had going on. Also it was warm and dry and I am not tired. So despite completing it very quickly, not sure it would have been the case for me on the mountaintop. You have to make sure that a number only appears one time in the entire nine digit row or column that is the trick. If you never have done Sodoku and don't have pen and paper the first time and you don't know the rules it is difficult. That board they gave Tyson is not an easy game there are so few numbers it is more a medium to hard game and very unfair to newbies who are running final that is more than 3o hours long on 3 hours of sleep and very little food and not dressed for the weather. The board I am looking at has a lot of empty spaces, the box 1 top row left has 6 empty spots with 3, 7, 9. You can fill it easily with 5, 6. Are we even looking at the same board?
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 20, 2022 22:16:38 GMT
Agreed. Funny, I had the urge to try my hand at soduku too. If you didn't have instructions, there would be no way to figure it out. In this article, there is a picture of the puzzle Tyson had to solve (with the solution): soapdirt.com/the-challenge-usa-tyson-apostol-sudoku-puzzle/Now I am really skeptical that Sarah really solved it. The image of this soduku is misleading if you watch the episode again and stop at the soduku station there are boards were it is obvious that players have not arrived as the bag of numbers is still lying at the base of the board. If you look at the boards there are many more numbers on each grid than the image given in the soapdirt article states there is. Like I said very misleading. Beginner boards have more numbers and more repeated numbers on them. If you never have played Soduku even a easy board is very difficult. The minimum directions should be use the digits/numbers 1 thru 9 to fill in the rows and columns. Each 3x3 grid should have the numbers 1 thru 9. Also each entire row and entire column on the board should consist of the numbers 1 thru 9. No repeats. Even with those directions and a bit of reading of strategy I have been practicing for 5 days. After day three is became easier to play, from 33 minutes to complete a board to about 10 to 11 minutes and these are easy boards. With no directions and no prior experience only 3 hours of sleep, facing hypothermia you are done.
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Post by beerbelly on Sept 21, 2022 11:14:52 GMT
Here is an article that interviews Desi and she confirms that personal items were missing and they won’t reimburse them. www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/2022/09/desi-williams-challenge-usa-survivor-interview/“It doesn’t appear like they plan to do anything to rectify that issue,” Desi told me. “I think they’re well aware of what’s missing and how much went missing. I sent a list to HR of all the things that I had missing, and that was kind of where that ended, and that was back in May.”
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 22, 2022 3:37:45 GMT
The Challenge is airing a documentary about the Challenge franchise:
Two episodes on September 21, 2022 Two episodes on September 28, 2022
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