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Post by dagwood on Aug 30, 2018 1:12:16 GMT
Oh my! That was fast. Rip, John. Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk My dad just passed from the same kind of tumor. He was only a couple of years younger than him but only lived less than 4 months after diagnosis. They just caught it too late. We tried surgery but it had spread. He was not able to withstand chemo and radiation. When I heard John McCain had passed 2 weeks to the day my dad did, I just cried. I can't even imagine knowing you aren't going to live...... Hugs to you.  |
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Aug 30, 2018 1:43:14 GMT
Oh my! That was fast. Rip, John. Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk My dad just passed from the same kind of tumor. He was only a couple of years younger than him but only lived less than 4 months after diagnosis. They just caught it too late. We tried surgery but it had spread. He was not able to withstand chemo and radiation. When I heard John McCain had passed 2 weeks to the day my dad did, I just cried. I can't even imagine knowing you aren't going to live...... I'm so very sorry for your loss, libgirl2. |
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Post by justCoz on Aug 30, 2018 4:08:35 GMT
Oh my! That was fast. Rip, John. Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk My dad just passed from the same kind of tumor. He was only a couple of years younger than him but only lived less than 4 months after diagnosis. They just caught it too late. We tried surgery but it had spread. He was not able to withstand chemo and radiation. When I heard John McCain had passed 2 weeks to the day my dad did, I just cried. I can't even imagine knowing you aren't going to live...... My condolences libgirl2 |
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Post by Cuddles on Aug 30, 2018 11:47:43 GMT
It seems just like yesterday when you first mentioned this libgirl2 so I can only imagine how quickly it all went for you.
Your attitude about how you just got to the point where all you wanted was to see your dad in comfort and at peace tells me that you loved your father a great deal.
Take Care,
BB/Cuddles
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 30, 2018 13:24:12 GMT
It seems just like yesterday when you first mentioned this libgirl2 so I can only imagine how quickly it all went for you. Your attitude about how you just got to the point where all you wanted was to see your dad in comfort and at peace tells me that you loved your father a great deal. Take Care, BB/Cuddles Everyone who knew him adored him. He was a good man. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Aug 30, 2018 14:37:43 GMT
Oh my! That was fast. Rip, John. Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk My dad just passed from the same kind of tumor. He was only a couple of years younger than him but only lived less than 4 months after diagnosis. They just caught it too late. We tried surgery but it had spread. He was not able to withstand chemo and radiation. When I heard John McCain had passed 2 weeks to the day my dad did, I just cried. I can't even imagine knowing you aren't going to live...... Ohhhhh, I'm so very, very sorry, libgirl2.  The way you speak of him, I can see that your dad must've been a wonderful man. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 30, 2018 15:14:09 GMT
My dad just passed from the same kind of tumor. He was only a couple of years younger than him but only lived less than 4 months after diagnosis. They just caught it too late. We tried surgery but it had spread. He was not able to withstand chemo and radiation. When I heard John McCain had passed 2 weeks to the day my dad did, I just cried. I can't even imagine knowing you aren't going to live...... Ohhhhh, I'm so very, very sorry, libgirl2. The way you speak of him, I can see that your dad must've been a wonderful man. thank you and thank everyone for the kind words. Right now I am entering the "feeling guilty" about enjoying things again, but I know he wouldn't want me to mourn all the time. |
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Post by FannyMare on Aug 30, 2018 15:21:25 GMT
Ohhhhh, I'm so very, very sorry, libgirl2. The way you speak of him, I can see that your dad must've been a wonderful man. thank you and thank everyone for the kind words. Right now I am entering the "feeling guilty" about enjoying things again, but I know he wouldn't want me to mourn all the time. No need for guilt, your father is with you, in your heart, much like Meghan's father is in her heart now. |
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Post by libgirl2 on Aug 30, 2018 16:29:19 GMT
thank you and thank everyone for the kind words. Right now I am entering the "feeling guilty" about enjoying things again, but I know he wouldn't want me to mourn all the time. No need for guilt, your father is with you, in your heart, much like Meghan's father is in her heart now. Yes he is. |
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 1, 2018 5:57:26 GMT
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Post by razorbacker on Sept 1, 2018 10:28:09 GMT
Evidently that was done at the request of Queen Elizabeth herself. From one Queen to another. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 1, 2018 23:29:35 GMT
Vanessa Marquez Dead - Former 'ER' Actress Shot & Killed By Police at 49Very, very sad. In addition to the strange and tragic circumstances of Vanessa's death, there's a very disturbing allegation at the very end of the article about her, saying that she was blacklisted from ER by co-star George Clooney - that last October, she made the allegation she was blacklisted from ER by George Clooney after complaining of racial discrimination and sexual harassment. The article says: "According to the report, officers were called to her home to check on her welfare. When they arrived, she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called both paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, she armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire." www.justjared.com/2018/08/31/vanessa-marquez-dead-former-er-actress-shot-killed-by-police-at-49/
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 2, 2018 19:47:24 GMT
She went to TPTB on E.R. to tell them about Weinstein. Instead, she was fired from her job. Clooney was friendly with Weinstein.
I believe there is far more human wreckage out there than we know of right now. Until 1997, she was a working actress doing fine in small parts. So, what happened during her E.R. period of employment? Something went terribly wrong; was her physical, emotional and mental decline tied to Weinstein? Exacerbated by being punished for talking about it? Plenty of victims who speak out become 'the problem':the perpetrator protected.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 2, 2018 19:51:22 GMT
Vanessa Marquez Dead - Former 'ER' Actress Shot & Killed By Police at 49Very, very sad. In addition to the strange and tragic circumstances of Vanessa's death, there's a very disturbing allegation at the very end of the article about her, saying that she was blacklisted from ER by co-star George Clooney - that last October, she made the allegation she was blacklisted from ER by George Clooney after complaining of racial discrimination and sexual harassment. The article says: "According to the report, officers were called to her home to check on her welfare. When they arrived, she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called both paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, she armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire." www.justjared.com/2018/08/31/vanessa-marquez-dead-former-er-actress-shot-killed-by-police-at-49/ This is all so tragic. I find it odd that the police spent 90 minutes with her. She was having a seizure and was disoriented. Why not let the paramedics in. There is no mention of a threat until 90 minutes in; they shoot her-after she points a gun at them. Or what appears to be a gun. The whole thing sounds chaotic. |
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Post by MissGriss on Sept 3, 2018 0:39:50 GMT
Vanessa Marquez Dead - Former 'ER' Actress Shot & Killed By Police at 49Very, very sad. In addition to the strange and tragic circumstances of Vanessa's death, there's a very disturbing allegation at the very end of the article about her, saying that she was blacklisted from ER by co-star George Clooney - that last October, she made the allegation she was blacklisted from ER by George Clooney after complaining of racial discrimination and sexual harassment. The article says: "According to the report, officers were called to her home to check on her welfare. When they arrived, she was suffering from seizures and appeared unable to take care of herself. Officers called both paramedics and a mental health clinician, and continued to talk with her. After about 90 minutes, she armed herself with a BB gun and pointed it at the officers, causing them to open fire." www.justjared.com/2018/08/31/vanessa-marquez-dead-former-er-actress-shot-killed-by-police-at-49/ This is all so tragic. I find it odd that the police spent 90 minutes with her. She was having a seizure and was disoriented. Why not let the paramedics in. There is no mention of a threat until 90 minutes in; they shoot her-after she points a gun at them. Or what appears to be a gun. The whole thing sounds chaotic. In an article I read somewhere, they said that they had a social service worker there. It sounds like she was just not in a state to be able to communicate effectively and was frightened and disoriented. It must be terribly difficult to try to help someone who is in that condition. I don't blame the police for being frightened by the gun (even if it did turn out to be a BB gun), but I don't see why they couldn't shoot to disarm or distract without killing her. There just has to be something in between that they could have done, no? |
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 3, 2018 2:11:58 GMT
There was a blurb on the local news where the police department asked that we not jump to conclusions, but wait until the full story is revealed.
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Post by sweetmermaid1 on Sept 3, 2018 6:50:16 GMT
Was away for the weekend so missed the McCain funeral....I respect that man so much....did they pay him a proper tribute!
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Post by Arielflies on Sept 3, 2018 8:02:38 GMT
More than proper both in Arizona, Washington and at his burial at the Naval Academy. Because the burial was private, the news cameras weren't there, but on the outside perimeter in a perfect spot to show the flyover with the missing man taking off to the heavens.
I've seen that before at the National Cemetery in Riverside, CA when my father was lowered into the ground. It wasn't for him, but an Admiral buried the same day. I think he would have gotten a kick out of it though because he wanted to be a naval aviator, but was rejected because of his eyes. Instead, he sailed the China Seas in the thick of it.
Anyway, seeing that, I teared up as I did during the Lying in State ceremonies and the eulogies.
You can find all the eulogies on You Tube under the search for John McCain Funeral.
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Post by lonnie on Sept 3, 2018 15:28:56 GMT
RIP
It was kind of odd to see racist Farrakhan in the front row of Aretha's funeral. At least they didn't have him speak there.
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Post by AZChristian on Sept 3, 2018 21:12:53 GMT
I don't blame the police for being frightened by the gun (even if it did turn out to be a BB gun), but I don't see why they couldn't shoot to disarm or distract without killing her. There just has to be something in between that they could have done, no? It is nearly impossible to aim for and hit a limb. Arms and legs are more likely to be in motion, and are smaller than the torso. Police are trained that if the decision is made to shoot at a suspect, they are to aim for the largest part of the body mass. They are not only protecting themselves, but also anyone else in the vicinity. An injured person with a gun is just as dangerous - if not more so - than an uninjured person. The reason she was shot is that she was brandishing a gun. It is sad, yes . . . but she left the police no other options than to protect themselves and the public. (Hope I didn't mess up the quote box(es). They don't work quite the same on the new board.) |
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 4, 2018 6:46:08 GMT
This is all so tragic. I find it odd that the police spent 90 minutes with her. She was having a seizure and was disoriented. Why not let the paramedics in. There is no mention of a threat until 90 minutes in; they shoot her-after she points a gun at them. Or what appears to be a gun. The whole thing sounds chaotic. In an article I read somewhere, they said that they had a social service worker there. It sounds like she was just not in a state to be able to communicate effectively and was frightened and disoriented. It must be terribly difficult to try to help someone who is in that condition. I don't blame the police for being frightened by the gun (even if it did turn out to be a BB gun), but I don't see why they couldn't shoot to disarm or distract without killing her. There just has to be something in between that they could have done, no? That is the heart of this. I think it's good to question things. It's how the system gets better. You pinpointed a problem that has impacted for the worse the lives of two groups of people: Those who have some form of mental illness and those who have physical disabilities. They are more likely to be shot by police than any other group. These shootings are almost always avoidable but happen due to lack of training . The majority of police officers in this country are not adequately trained on how to successfully interact with either group. There are some amazing police officers trying to change this, but hardly enough to impact us nationwide. Police officers are trained to shoot to kill during academy training . it is drummed into their heads daily that hesitation to shoot lethally means they will be murdered. So, they are given contradictory information; evaluate the situation before using force-but, you must use deadly force as every situation is a fatal encounter waiting to happen. Here is an article about the use of deadly force that is even handed. It's written by retired police officer Seth Stroughten. He is now a scholar who focuses on policing techniques. www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2014/12/police-gun-shooting-training-ferguson/383681The original point being people chose to punish Vanessa for coming forward. Or, they claimed , as they often do, that she was 'crazy.' What fdoes that do to a womans soul? To her self-worth? To have her terrible experience invalidated? She was victimized over and over. If this world was just, Vanessa s life would not have ended this way. That's the ache I have in my heart for her and so many others. |
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Post by Critical on Sept 5, 2018 21:12:08 GMT
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Post by libgirl2 on Sept 5, 2018 21:18:01 GMT
Yes, Charlie Brent and Cecily. 63 way too young. I know he had drug issues when he was growing up (his father partied with him) so maybe he sustained heart damage. I never thought his father was "cute" but I thought he was. |
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Post by Critical on Sept 6, 2018 1:40:50 GMT
Yes, Charlie Brent and Cecily. 63 way too young. I know he had drug issues when he was growing up (his father partied with him) so maybe he sustained heart damage. I never thought his father was "cute" but I thought he was. I really remember Charlie and Hayley more. I never liked Cecily, so I blocked her out!  I thought his father was quite handsome and dashing in his younger days. Christopher was definitely better looking older man than his father. I didn't realize how much work he'd done in the addiction community. More of that Kennedy ethic of service to others. |
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Post by razorbacker on Sept 6, 2018 19:04:35 GMT
Burt Reynolds has just passed away.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 6, 2018 19:06:50 GMT
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Post by pikachu on Sept 6, 2018 19:19:08 GMT
Wow, a lot of big stars passing recently. I just saw the news about Burt on Twitter. I used to laugh at Blanche on The Golden Girls always calling him "Mr. Burt Reynolds" all formal-like. R.I.P, Bandit! Smokey never did catch you.  |
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Post by libgirl2 on Sept 6, 2018 19:24:41 GMT
Wow, a lot of big stars passing recently. I just saw the news about Burt on Twitter. I used to laugh at Blanche on The Golden Girls always calling him "Mr. Burt Reynolds" all formal-like. R.I.P, Bandit! Smokey never did catch you. I never watched the Golden Girls but there are certain actors/musicians etc... that I like who I call "Mr". He had been ill for awhile last I heard. RIP. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 6, 2018 23:08:04 GMT
I'm soooo sad, I loved Burt Reynolds. He was an absolutely gorgeous guy with a sense of humor and a giggle that cracked me up --- he was cocky and self-deprecating at the same time -- a kind of rare quality, and I thought he was really special. He wasn't everybody's cup of tea perhaps, but he was definitely mine. And he'll be greatly missed. RIP Burt. PS If anyone is interested in seeing Burt Reynolds at his best, (as he was, on the 'Tonight Show' with Johnny Carson) the 'Antenna TV' channel runs the old 'Tonight Show' episodes twice every night, and coincidentally, Burt Reynolds and Dom DeLuise are scheduled to be the guests on the show THIS WEEKEND, on late SUNDAY night. If you haven't ever seen the 3 of them together, Johnny, Burt and Dom were HILARIOUS together, and gave us some of the biggest laughs ever. I'll sure be watching!!! |
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 7, 2018 21:00:05 GMT
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The way you speak of him, I can see that your dad must've been a wonderful man.
I thought his father was quite handsome and dashing in his younger days. Christopher was definitely better looking older man than his father. I didn't realize how much work he'd done in the addiction community. More of that Kennedy ethic of service to others.
