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Post by waywyrd on Mar 14, 2023 23:14:18 GMT
SPOILER FREE ZONE
Tonight: the always messy Women Tell All episode.
Enjoy the show!
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 15, 2023 0:26:58 GMT
Oh, my ears! It starts off with screaming fans at watch parties that Jesse and Zach "crash" so I had to mute that. Now we had to go to commercial because all the women are screaming and talking all at the same time and Jesse couldn't get them settled down. It's painful to watch this.
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 15, 2023 1:33:36 GMT
The behind-the-scenes clips were pretty dumb. I usually like those, in general, to see how they interact more naturally than what's shown on TV, but discussing farting and bathrooming, butt cheeks, face slapping with tortillas, etc., just wasn't as entertaining to me.
Here comes Zach. Sometimes he looks like such a dork to me, and other times he's kind of good looking.
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 15, 2023 1:55:16 GMT
Okay those bloopers were good! The "mold" wine vs mulled wine was pretty funny to me, since I enjoy words and get a kick out of word play/mistakes! Zach was serious, thinking it really was mold wine.  I also liked the sweating scenes. Poor guy! Where were they, where tarantulas are just roaming around?? I'd have freaked out too.
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Post by Navybelle on Mar 15, 2023 2:07:35 GMT
I'm not sure I completely buy the "surprise" portion of this reveal, but it was cute how Jesse went into Charity's dressing room right after the show wrapped, to tell her. Must have been difficult to not run and tell all her girlfriends there!
She seems genuinely sweet, and she's gorgeous, so I think it's a fine choice. I hope they get her lots of good guys.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 15, 2023 2:53:52 GMT
I'm not sure I completely buy the "surprise" portion of this reveal, but it was cute how Jesse went into Charity's dressing room right after the show wrapped, to tell her. Must have been difficult to not run and tell all her girlfriends there! She seems genuinely sweet, and she's gorgeous, so I think it's a fine choice. I hope they get her lots of good guys. I think that if they are in the running they know it's a strong possibility, but several people might sign contracts and go through the initial steps toward becoming the bachelorette, so it's not a sure thing till they announce it.
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Post by Critical on Mar 15, 2023 4:12:33 GMT
I'm not sure I completely buy the "surprise" portion of this reveal, but it was cute how Jesse went into Charity's dressing room right after the show wrapped, to tell her. Must have been difficult to not run and tell all her girlfriends there! She seems genuinely sweet, and she's gorgeous, so I think it's a fine choice. I hope they get her lots of good guys. I think that if they are in the running they know it's a strong possibility, but several people might sign contracts and go through the initial steps toward becoming the bachelorette, so it's not a sure thing till they announce it. I don't know if they sign contracts, but they often prep multiple people for the lead before they choose one. I can't remember names now, but some who've been prepped to be the lead and then lost it have talked about it publicly. IMO, it's a pretty crappy way to treat people, but I guess if you get involved with that franchise, you have to accept that they're going to manipulate you and treat you poorly.
I really like Charity and hope they do right by her in a way they really didn't with previous black bachelorettes, especially Rachel Lindsay. Maybe her cutie pie brother can come visit her too!
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 15, 2023 5:08:53 GMT
I think Reality Steve has said that they sometimes have several people sign contracts, but I might be wrong.
I know Caila Quinn was well on her way to becoming Bachelorette and had even shot hometown B-roll promotional stuff, but at the last minute they gave it to Jojo instead.
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Post by Critical on Mar 15, 2023 5:40:49 GMT
I remember listening to someone on a podcast talking about how they were supposed to be the Bach and then they pulled Arie out of nowhere. Cannot remember who it was. I think it happened when they chose Nick too.
I really can't remember who I heard talking about having filmed B-roll footage just like Caila had, only to have them announce someone else and not be told ahead of time by Fleiss & Co. That's pretty awful, IMO. At least give the also-rans a heads up. I seem to remember at least one person finding out while watching it happen on TV.
You may be right about the contracts. I just don't remember that. Either way, it would be a huge bummer to think you're getting chosen and then it's someone else.
Based on the previews, it does look like Zach slept with one of the F3. It's got to be his F1, don't you think? I can't imagine accepting a proposal from someone who slept with someone else, but told me there wouldn't be any sex in the FS.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 15, 2023 11:28:58 GMT
I certainly hope it was his final one. Otherwise, yikes!
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Post by amber on Mar 16, 2023 18:13:40 GMT
Ugh. How old am I to be left feeling completely unenthusiastic about watching forced woke discussion? Will it always be necessary for participants to explain away old social media nonsense? I definitely don't feel enlightened for having watched it — only annoyance.
Too bad. I have been enjoying this season because it is coming off so old-school Bachelor.
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Post by Critical on Mar 16, 2023 22:24:40 GMT
Ugh. How old am I to be left feeling completely unenthusiastic about watching forced woke discussion? Will it always be necessary for participants to explain away old social media nonsense? I definitely don't feel enlightened for having watched it — only annoyance. Too bad. I have been enjoying this season because it is coming off so old-school Bachelor. Blackface has been wildly racist for DECADES. This is not new. These people are young, so something that is "old" on social media is a few years ago and LONG after blackface has been denounced as crappy, racist behavior. "Woke" is not a derogatory term. It means that you recognize and are aware of racial prejudice and discrimination. That is a GOOD thing. It's 2023 and calling people out, expecting them to be better is a very good thing. I'm glad that this franchise is finally dragging people who don't want to face these realities kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
I was thrilled that they are finally addressing this stuff - they glossed over Erich's blackface issue in Gabby and Rachel's season and it was ridiculous and shameful. I truly hope they treat Charity better than they treated Rachel Lindsay, who deserves a giant apology from Fleiss and Co.
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Post by amber on Mar 16, 2023 22:49:00 GMT
With all due respect, your point has absolutely nothing to do with mine.
However, to address the attempt to rewrite history, "Finally?" As if it hasn't been before? Please. Be real.
JIC, although you'd prefer it to be, I'm not defending blackface. That isn't my point.
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Post by MissGriss on Mar 17, 2023 6:51:23 GMT
With all due respect, your point has absolutely nothing to do with mine. However, to address the attempt to rewrite history, "Finally?" As if it hasn't been before? Please. Be real. JIC, although you'd prefer it to be, I'm not defending blackface. That isn't my point. Then what exactly was your point, because I understood your post in the same way Critical did? Not that I thought you were defending blackface, but it certainly sounded like you were irritated by something to do with the attention given to it on the show.
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Post by SummerSue on Mar 18, 2023 16:50:14 GMT
I probably watched about 10% of this episode. Couldn't stand the fans screaming, the girls and their stupid drama & whining about their time on the show, no one-on-one, blah blah blah. Fast forwarded to the end to watch the bloopers and watch Charity get her chance to be bachelorette. I hate MTA/WTA and I wish they would stop doing it. Two hours of crap.
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Post by tapper01 on Mar 21, 2023 1:17:24 GMT
Ugh. How old am I to be left feeling completely unenthusiastic about watching forced woke discussion? Will it always be necessary for participants to explain away old social media nonsense? I definitely don't feel enlightened for having watched it — only annoyance. Too bad. I have been enjoying this season because it is coming off so old-school Bachelor. just what is woke
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Post by tapper01 on Mar 21, 2023 1:18:34 GMT
Ugh. How old am I to be left feeling completely unenthusiastic about watching forced woke discussion? Will it always be necessary for participants to explain away old social media nonsense? I definitely don't feel enlightened for having watched it — only annoyance. Too bad. I have been enjoying this season because it is coming off so old-school Bachelor. Blackface has been wildly racist for DECADES. This is not new. These people are young, so something that is "old" on social media is a few years ago and LONG after blackface has been denounced as crappy, racist behavior. "Woke" is not a derogatory term. It means that you recognize and are aware of racial prejudice and discrimination. That is a GOOD thing. It's 2023 and calling people out, expecting them to be better is a very good thing. I'm glad that this franchise is finally dragging people who don't want to face these realities kicking and screaming into the 21st century.
I was thrilled that they are finally addressing this stuff - they glossed over Erich's blackface issue in Gabby and Rachel's season and it was ridiculous and shameful. I truly hope they treat Charity better than they treated Rachel Lindsay, who deserves a giant apology from Fleiss and Co.
THIS 1000000000000%
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