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Post by MissGriss on Jul 16, 2023 18:18:13 GMT
I’m not sure where I heard this (it was on the radio while I was driving the other day) but as part of the AI negotiations, there’s also the issue of who owns an actor’s likeness. There are concerns about current contracts amounting to giving the studios the ability to do whatever they want with an actor’s image in perpetuity.
(Just want to clarify that the image would come from a project the studio had paid the actor to participate in, but the actor would get nothing from any future use of the image.)
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 16, 2023 22:42:47 GMT
I heard the ladies on The View discussing wills because someone famous had left her last handwritten copy in her sofa and a judge had determined it was legit. Anyway, the discussion progressed into Whoopi stating that she clarified (years ago) in her will that her likeness cannot be used.
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Jul 16, 2023 23:51:09 GMT
I heard the ladies on The View discussing wills because someone famous had left her last handwritten copy in her sofa and a judge had determined it was legit. Anyway, the discussion progressed into Whoopi stating that she clarified (years ago) in her will that her likeness cannot be used. That would be none other than the Queen of Soul, Ms.Aretha Franklin.
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Post by amber on Jul 17, 2023 17:58:20 GMT
How do companies succeed, and how do entertainers make a decent living when there is so much volume for consumers to choose from? To be honest, I watch very little scripted shows regardless of platform. In the 60s, what the writers and actors were fighting for affected me. Today, not at all.
Hollywood plunges into all-out war on the heels of pandemic and a streaming revolution
"The last time screen actors and writers struck simultaneously, in 1960, the guilds established royalty (later residual) payments for replays of films and TV episodes, among other landmark protections. If that strike reckoned with the dawn of television, this one does much the same for the streaming era.
"But streaming, especially when companies carefully guard audience numbers, offers no easy metric like box office or TV ratings to establish residuals — long a foundational part of how writers and actors make a living. SAG-AFTRA is seeking a small percentage of subscriber revenue, with data measured by a third party, Parrot Analytics.
"The AMPTP, which negotiates on behalf of the studios, hasn’t agreed to that but says the studios have offered actors “historic pay and residual increases,” along with pension contributions and other other protections."
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"“You used to be able to work on a broadcast show, one show and you’re good for the year because of the residuals,” said actor Nachayka Vanterpool on the picket lines. “And then you have streaming coming along and you got 20 cent residual checks. That impacts you.”"
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Post by Critical on Jul 17, 2023 23:31:39 GMT
I felt like this topic needed it's own thread AND that misc. celeb gossip needed to go back to being about just that  There might be a few random comments mixed in with gossip that got left in the old thread, but please keep the strike comments here. I think this is a good thread on Tumblr about whether people should or should not continue to see movies, watch things on streaming platforms, etc.. The question is posed to Neil Gaiman by a user and then answered by both Neil Gaiman and another writer, Ben Paddon.
No one from the unions has suggested that we boycott anything. If they do, then that's the time to do it. I think we need to take our cues from the people who are striking.
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Post by MissGriss on Jul 18, 2023 2:13:10 GMT
Thanks, Critical! That's good to know where they stand on the issue of streaming and of supporting already shot movies at the theaters, as well.
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Post by Kao on Jul 18, 2023 12:57:56 GMT
It mostly pertains to the music industry but Snoop Dogg gives a nice breakdown on how a lot of creatives in the entertainment business aren't getting paid for streams of their work.
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Post by rockytopchick on Jul 18, 2023 18:31:01 GMT
Whenever I see a waxy skintone (specially in a commercial) I think AI. They are already conditioning us in subtle ways...Avatar, anyone? Becoming an Alien force has become common and acceptable. Next step - human form.
Is this their way of skirting pay to humans who need to eat and pay for a roof over their heads?
There is a commercial that I have seen a lot over the last 6 months or so. I think it may be for a brand of Almond Milk. There is a young pre teen ish girl and her father in it. And I have been thinking something about her looks unnatural. I wonder if that commercial could be AI?
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Post by JustJuls on Jul 18, 2023 19:17:02 GMT
Aww man, I love Snoop so much  (I'm a 90's kid  )
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Post by Amy Lee on Jul 19, 2023 21:07:57 GMT
Michelle Hurd with a word.
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Post by Critical on Jul 25, 2023 4:27:04 GMT
I'm reading a book right now that, while not explicitly about the strike, certainly shines a light on the working conditions in Hollywood - Maureen Ryan's Burn It Down. I'm only about a third of the way in, but I'll say that fans of Lost and Sleepy Hollow, in particular, will be really sad to read about how toxic those two sets were. Stories about the working environment at SNL have been around for years, so that's not as surprising.
For the people at the top - execs, big movies stars and the top 1% of the industry, things are great, but for the rest, it's often rife with abuse and uncertainty. AND, if you speak up, you may get fired - or worse, you may not have a career.
IMO, anyone who wants to go into show business should have to read this book. Then, if they decide to still go forward, at least they know what to expect.
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Post by Critical on Jul 25, 2023 11:12:27 GMT
Now this is what you call putting your money where your mouth is. Kudos to Dwayne Johnson. Hopefully, more A listers will follow suit. His donation will help between 7,000 and 10,000 union members, the majority of whom haven't made even close to 7 figures in their entire career.
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Post by dagwood on Jul 25, 2023 20:12:06 GMT
I have always loved him, this proves he is a decent guy behind the scenes as well.
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Post by tilden on Jul 29, 2023 0:45:21 GMT
I think it was Jack Lemmon who said that if you're an actor whose been fortunate enough to make it to the penthouse, it's your obligation to send the elevator back down to those in your business who have not been so fortunate. It's nice to see any actor/musician who has made it remember to help others in their profession (as well as those who make their profession possible, such as all the writers, technical people etc.)who haven't had the same financial success they have.
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Post by ccl on Jul 29, 2023 0:58:48 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Sept 17, 2023 17:31:56 GMT
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Post by Critical on Sept 17, 2023 23:10:04 GMT
Drew has absolutely deserved the backlash and so has Bill Maher. What I find puzzling though, is that no one is going after Jennifer Hudson, who still has not changed her plans to start back filming her talk show tomorrow. The Talk also had planned to return, but after the Drew/Maher backlash, they put those plans on hold. I'm not saying that the backlash isn't deserved, I just wonder why it's been applied unevenly.
ETA: I saw a story that did say the JHUd show is pushing back its season 2 premiere date, but the official IG still has the post about the premiere being tomorrow.
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Post by Amy Lee on Sept 25, 2023 3:15:07 GMT
WGA has struck a tentative deal!!!Writers Guild Reaches Tentative Agreement With Studios and StreamersIn a significant development that could bring an end to a historic writers' strike, the union and the Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers announced a provisional deal on Sunday. After several long consecutive days of negotiations, the Writers Guild of America and the labor group representing studios and streamers have reached a tentative deal on a new contract in a major development that could precipitate the end of a historic, 146-day writers’ strike. The Writers Guild of America emailed strike captains the news on Sunday night, and shortly after, its negotiating committee informed all members. “We have reached a tentative agreement on a new 2023 MBA, which is to say an agreement in principle on all deal points, subject to drafting final contract language,” the latter message stated. “We can say, with great pride, that this deal is exceptional – with meaningful gains and protections for writers in every sector of the membership.” The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers confirmed the news in a joint statement with the WGA about the deal on Sunday. The parties came to terms on a provisional three-year agreement, which will need to be ratified by WGA members to take effect, on Sunday after studios responded to last-minute union asks that day. Specifics of the deal affecting around 11,500 WGA members weren’t available as of press time, though they will emerge in the next few days as the union seeks to sell its members on the pact. In its message to members, the union’s negotiating committee asked for patience on disclosing the fine print of the deal. “What remains now is for our staff to make sure everything we have agreed to is codified in final contract language. And though we are eager to share the details of what has been achieved with you, we cannot do that until the last ‘i’ is dotted,” the email stated. The deal will first go to the union’s negotiating committee for a vote, then to the WGA West’s board and the WGA East’s council for approval; both referendums are tentatively scheduled for Tuesday. If rubber-stamped by those leaders, board and council will also vote on whether to end the strike “at a certain date and time (to be determined) pending ratification,” the negotiating committee said. Once these leadership votes have taken place, members will receive a summary of the agreement and a memorandum of agreement (a more detailed and lawyerly accounting of the provisional contract) prior to their own ratification vote. In the meantime, the WGA has suspended picketing while telling members that “no one is to return to work” until the union gives the green light. During the final weekend of negotiations, lawyers huddled before the studios presented their alleged “best and final” offer on Saturday night. Later that same night, the AMPTP and the WGA issued a joint statement that they would be meeting again on Sunday. And indeed, despite the supposed finality of the studios’ previous proposal, union negotiators returned to their bargaining counterparts on Sunday afternoon with some additional asks before the sides ultimately wrapped up the negotiations. The mood among writers on Friday’s packed picket lines was one of cautious optimism, as union members anticipated that the end of the historic work stoppage might be soon. “The fact that they’ve been talking for three days straight is terrific,” showrunner Marc Guggenheim (Legends of Tomorrow) told The Hollywood Reporter at Disney. Studio-side sources familiar with the progress in the room also projected positivity over the past several days as management made moves on issues including A.I., TV staffing and residual compensation tied to streaming show performance. That buoyant mood dipped on Thursday night, when studio sources claimed the WGA came back late in the night with new asks on items that management believed to be already closed; but returned on Friday as the sides nailed down compromises. The momentum in talks over the course of the past week was a welcome change in pace from the month-long standstill in negotiations that occurred after a meeting between WGA leaders and several CEOs plus AMPTP president Carol Lombardini in late August, which ended in mutual recrimination. The AMPTP released its Aug. 11 offer publicly, and the WGA slammed the meetup, saying its leaders were met with a “lecture about how good their single and only counteroffer was.” The pause in talks was lifted on Sept. 14, when the AMPTP announced that the WGA had reached out to resume negotiations and both sides were working on scheduling in the following week. At day 146 of the ongoing WGA strike, the work stoppage was closing in on being the longest in the union’s history. The current record was set in 1988, when the WGA struck Hollywood companies for 154 days. Though still tentative in nature, the agreement is a momentous development for an industry that has been hobbled by the double WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes, the first time both have occurred at once in over 60 years. The WGA strike had an immediate impact: Filming in Los Angeles declined 29 percent between April and June 2023 compared with the same period last year as the writers’ work stoppage began May 2, local office FilmLA reported on April 19. A wide array of major projects were halted in their tracks and/or postponed, including Netflix’s Stranger Things, Apple TV+’s Loot, Marvel’s Blade 2 and Thunderbolts and others. When SAG-AFTRA joined the stoppage, a number of additional projects including Venom 3, Gladiator 2 and Deadpool 3 followed. A tentative agreement does not eradicate the potential for the strike to continue, as WGA leadership could still vote against lifting the union’s restraining order. And in terms of the contract, members could still reject the deal in an upcoming ratification vote. The stakes and expectations are high, given how long the work stoppage has gone on so far. However, in the coming days the WGA leadership will undoubtedly work hard to persuade their members of the deal’s merits. Negotiations for the agreement began on March 20 and broke off the night of May 1, resulting in a strike the next day. The two parties reunited again on August 11, reached a standstill in late August but resumed on Sept. 20, and concluded their negotiations on Sept. 24. The writers had been advocating for great compensation in the streaming era, through higher wage floors, regulation of mini-rooms and residuals tied to the performance of their shows. Meanwhile, studios and streamers — who have been feeling pressure to cut costs after Wall Street turned on unprofitable streaming operations in 2022 and amid an uncertain economic climate — were seeking to rein in their spending on labor. It remains to be seen how both sides managed to reach a compromise that could satisfy their constituents. The writers were led in their negotiations by WGA West assistant executive director Ellen Stutzman, who stepped up to the plate after the western branch of the union’s executive director David Young went on medical leave prior to the start of talks. Carol Lombardini, the AMPTP’s chief negotiator since 2009, led the talks for producers. Now, it’s up to the WGA’s members to determine whether the deal satisfies the workplace issues that their peers have been raising for months. All eyes are on the union’s ratification vote for the deal, the date of which has not yet been announced.
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Post by Critical on Oct 5, 2023 1:06:45 GMT
Drew Barrymore is dealing with more consequences of her bad decisions. She made the decision to go back into production with her talk show while the WGA was still striking. Even though she ended up not coming back during the strike, the damage was done. Three writer, including her two co-head writers, have turned down offers to return to her talk show.
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Post by Kao on Oct 5, 2023 4:29:11 GMT
Why should they come back when she made it all too obvious she didn't care about their concerns and was willing to scab? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 5, 2023 15:09:02 GMT
DB ..... whyyyyy did she make that decision when the strike was going on for like 5 months and she thinks she is ABOVE everyone????? AND NOW she is crying on every LA station.  Stop already. Give me a break. NO SURPRISE she lost her staff.
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Post by Realitychick on Oct 5, 2023 15:31:47 GMT
I think what many don't understand is that the host of a show isn't the only boss. Below is a good article I read about these type of decisions when she initially said she was bringing back her show. I think Drew could have handled it better but I don't place complete blame on her. Drew and other hosts are under contract with major media production companies that require a certain number of shows that must be made in a certain period of time. If they don't then they can lose their show. That's not just their job they are losing but hundreds of people that work on the show, not just the writers. Hopefully the bigger picture here is everyone who works in TV/Film/Stage are paid properly and the studios and major media production companies learn something. variety.com/2023/tv/news/drew-barrymore-daytime-talk-shows-wga-strike-1235725462/
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Post by Kao on Oct 5, 2023 15:35:02 GMT
Seriously? She's crying on TV Stations in LA because of a situation of her own making? No, gurl. Just stop. Considering how she's shown that she really doesn't care about the welfare of her writers good luck getting others from the guild on her show. I mean, a lot of employers at least do lip service about taking care of their employees; when you make it obvious that all you care about is your bottom line this shouldn't be surprising.
ETA: I understand it wasn't just Drew's decision, but it was her who announced that her show was coming back and other things in interviews and on her social media, not her bosses so I understand why she's being cooked online. I'm guessing that while the writers on Drew's show realize that her hands were tied but would you honestly want to work for an employer who basically said "We don't care if you're getting screwed over?" I think the writers rejected working for this production company (and Drew by proxy).
Not only was her show the first to say they wouldn't honor the picket lines, I also noticed that after she changed her mind thanks to pressure all of the other shows who announced they were going to scab after her also changed their minds. None of those shows were talking about scabbing until Drew announced that her show was going to do so. I don't mind her being held accountable.
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Post by Amy Lee on Nov 9, 2023 1:28:50 GMT
Extra! Extra! Read all about it.
SAG-AFTRA, the union representing approximately 160,000 actors, reached a tentative deal on Wednesday with major TV and movie studios that could end a strike launched more than three months ago. The agreement arrives a month after Hollywood writers ratified a deal to end a separate contract dispute with the studios. The actors' deal, like the writers' agreement, has yet to be ratified by a majority vote among union members. The two professions shared key areas of concern like residual payments and artificial intelligence, but some of their demands differed.
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