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Post by beerbelly on Dec 9, 2020 0:56:42 GMT
Lol! I think this is the first time I have seen Captain Lee have fun with the guests (from what I remember). I am still loving Eddie and how he is handling everything, I like how he bestows kudos on his team AND how he hasn't lost his temper with Sunshine. I would have! I also agree Eddie was great with the guests
I am watching WWL and Sunshine has not grown at all and has no regrets and sees no issue with his napping and behavior. He is so humorless. He just really rubs me the wrong way!
Also, the Chef was on America's Next Top Model!
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Post by acookertv on Dec 9, 2020 2:06:03 GMT
Humorless s the perfect word for him Beerbelly!
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Post by holly on Dec 9, 2020 15:49:08 GMT
Lol! I think this is the first time I have seen Captain Lee have fun with the guests (from what I remember). I am still loving Eddie and how he is handling everything, I like how he bestows kudos on his team AND how he hasn't lost his temper with Sunshine. I would have! I also agree Eddie was great with the guests I am watching WWL and Sunshine has not grown at all and has no regrets and sees no issue with his napping and behavior. He is so humorless. He just really rubs me the wrong way! Also, the Chef was on America's Next Top Model! Yes, the way he acted on WWHL made me dislike him even more! What a turd.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 9, 2020 16:45:28 GMT
He was one of those WWHL guests that made the audience really feel sympathy for Andy! It seemed like he's never watched the show and did not understand what was happening. I will give a pass to stars who go on and have not watched. If Oprah is not familiar with Plead the Fifth, so be it. But when a bravolebrity goes on and is not familiar with the shows format that's not okay! It's their job - they need to learn the network!
Andy was lucky that Rachel was the other guest - she seemed to step it up and carry the weight for both of them. Seeing how bad he was and learning that Rachel had worked with Kate, I really wished they had Kate as the second guest with her. That could have been fun!
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 9, 2020 22:25:14 GMT
Yes!
It was embarrassing how horrible he was - and you could see that Andy gamely trying to work with him but was losing his patience. I mean, if you worked your ass off and then talked to me about the earth, hell, I will listen. But when you are a little self-serious snot who can't work a day without taking a nap, then - nope. (Did I just channel Captain Lee????)
"Used the platform of Below Deck" and here I thought Berkley was a good school. He must have gone to Berkley Total Landscaping University.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 3:07:24 GMT
Holy cow was that episode a shock! Never have I ever seen Beliw Deck tease something in a preview that actually played out as they showed it. In the preference sheet meeting I keept waiting on her to start laughing. When Lee asked to speak to her I kept thinking she’d cool off and stay. But they really gave us what they previewed!
Now, as I typed this, Kate is on WWHL and said when she worked with Rachel she quit about theee times. So maybe she’ll be back next week?
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Post by woodiedog on Dec 15, 2020 14:19:54 GMT
Rachel - was she off her meds? Her responses were just so insane, she acted like a drunk being arrested. I can understand having some choice words for the clients who had an unreasonable list of meal choices, but Rachel attacked captain Lee instead. Why would she spew vile insults toward captain Lee? And what was her deal with the camera people? She seemed to have a lot of vitriol for them too. I say good riddance. Who wants a mentally unstable chef? I mean, keep her away from the sharp knives.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 14:27:22 GMT
From what Kate had to say, it sounds like this is par for the course with her. She's a fantastically skilled and creative chef, but brings a lot of drama with it. A large part of the premise of the show depends on the pressure that builds working and living in such close quarters, so I think that played into it. They've also given some hints and mentions of the growing COVID concerns that were happening when they were filming, and that could be playing in to it. When she called her boyfriend, he did mention COVID as a concern for whether or not he could come see her. So maybe she started panicking thinking she would not be able to get done once the season was over?
As I mentioned, Kate said on WWHL that when they worked together Rachel quit at least three times. So it would not surprise me if she's not back next week.
I also wonder if Francesca saw the light to appreciate why Lee was not willing to jump on board firing a stew as soon as she wanted to. Can you imagine doing a high maintenance charter down a chef, a deckhand AND a stew?
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Post by momrek06 on Dec 15, 2020 15:37:17 GMT
Oh my my my ..... what happened to Rachel? That "table" meeting was disturbing. Insulting the Capt. Crying about missing her BF, yes, I can imagine missing loved ones is sad BUT this is HER JOB...HER CAREER. To leave the ship right before the guests are to arrive giving the Capt and the crew NO TIME to find a new Chef. I am shocked. Was she hung-over or what? Gee Shane was fired, Elizabeth is on notice and Rachel walks off the ship. RACHEL was SO UNPROFESSIONAL. I don't care how skilled someone is .... it totally shows their unprofessionalism and their immaturity in the field they are in. And if Kate says she has done this before WHY would anyone want to hire someone skilled or not who on a moments notice gets up, quits, and exits the job........????? I will not blame Covid for Rachel's actions. This was all on her.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 15:44:31 GMT
Look at the chefs we've seen in Below Deck in the past. Ben threw plenty of temper tantrums. Adam was downright belligerent towards some charter guests. The list goes on and on. I'd say the only chefs who were not dramatic were not great chefs ... and some of the crappy ones brought drama too. I can remember plenty of times that Lee, Sandy, and Glen have commented about it being par for the course that chefs are a pain in the butt to work with, but worth it when they are skilled. Given everything that has been said about Rachel's food, I think she's in that category where you put up with the drama because the food is so great.
I mean, Lee has done interviews, tweets, and blogs where he's been highly complimentary of Rachel. On WWHL I believe he said he'd pick her as the best chef whose worked for him on Below Deck. He would have been saying all of that AFTER this drama - so clearly he didn't see it as a career destroying move.
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Post by holly on Dec 15, 2020 16:06:50 GMT
Look at the chefs we've seen in Below Deck in the past. Ben threw plenty of temper tantrums. Adam was downright belligerent towards some charter guests. The list goes on and on. I'd say the only chefs who were not dramatic were not great chefs ... and some of the crappy ones brought drama too. I can remember plenty of times that Lee, Sandy, and Glen have commented about it being par for the course that chefs are a pain in the butt to work with, but worth it when they are skilled. Given everything that has been said about Rachel's food, I think she's in that category where you put up with the drama because the food is so great. I mean, Lee has done interviews, tweets, and blogs where he's been highly complimentary of Rachel. On WWHL I believe he said he'd pick her as the best chef whose worked for him on Below Deck. He would have been saying all of that AFTER this drama - so clearly he didn't see it as a career destroying move. Adrian was a great chef, without the drama. But I understand what you're saying. I'm still flabbergasted about not just Rachel walking out, but the way she went about it! I did appreciate Lee's response to "go f yourself", though - "I'd rather not." The level of calmness, I couldn't do it. He could've ripped her a new one & would've been completely justified.
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Post by momrek06 on Dec 15, 2020 17:13:23 GMT
Ohhh holly , you are absolutely correct on how Capt Lee handled the situation. Because Capt Lee is a PROFESSIONAL doing HIS JOB. You would think that those working FOR HIM would see that in their Capt. and act accordingly.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 17:46:39 GMT
They do, don't they? When you look at all the people, including Rachel, who talk about the honor or working for him I thnk there's no doubt that people respect him tremendously. But not everyone has it in them to be as professional as he is. The show would be so damn boring if it was a bunch of perfect future captain Lee's working on a yacht!
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Post by holly on Dec 15, 2020 18:07:18 GMT
Could y'all imagine if this was BDM & she said that to Sandy? OMG, Sandy would've chased her off the yacht while cursing her out. I actually might've enjoyed that whole scenario.(Except for the crew getting screwed over)
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 18:33:49 GMT
I'd kind of like to see how Sandy would handle something like that. I agree with you that she would not handle it with as much grace. But I do wonder if she'd fight back, or if she'd turn into mush having to face that someone didn't adore her.
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 15, 2020 20:42:34 GMT
Captain Lee is one badass MF He's a great captain, knows when to have a good time and when not to, he's friendly as ever but will cut you off like that if the situation deserves it. He's not petty and stays out of the drama. Sandy has SO much to learn from him. Besides Captain Lee....Eddie has become my new favorite Below Deck crew member. I see a lot of potential in him....following Captain Lee in the way he handles things. I know what you are saying woodiedog about feeling like Rachel was off her meds because holy smokes she snapped and there was no coming back. She didn't look ok...something in her eyes. I don't know how to explain it. I saw that WWHL as well and when Kate said Rachel quit a lot and then would come back the next day Francesca nodded her head. So it does make me believe that Rachel will come to her senses and realize what she did to Captain Lee and the rest of the crew. I hope so at least.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 15, 2020 20:59:05 GMT
If she does come back, it leads to a question. Kate said when they were going through things she regretted that she did not regret leaving the yacht in her last season and sleeping in a hotel the night Ashton got violent towards her. Would it be wise for the yacht company on the nights they are in port between charters to pick one or two crew members at a time and put them up in a hotel for a night? It would take away from the entertainment on the show of having all the crew partying together, which is why they would need to do it one or two at a time. But I wonder if it would make the challenges of being a crew member more bearable if they got a night with a larger bed, bigger shower, and silence at some point.
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Post by JustJuls on Dec 15, 2020 21:48:28 GMT
I think it would change the dynamic of the boat too much.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 16, 2020 18:40:49 GMT
I've been watching season 3 in a Bravo marathon today, which is the season with Rocky and Leon the egotistical chef. It's making me wonder what ever happened to Amy, the stew whose brother was also on one season. I wonder if there was any talk after Kate left of getting her back as chief stew. She had such a great demeanor where she'd be kind and happy, but managed to make sure her voice was heard when it needed to be. It would have been fun to see how she would have done.
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Post by DoodleMom921 on Dec 16, 2020 18:56:03 GMT
Bravo posted a preview on Youtube of when Captain Lee gets mad at the charter guest for jumping in the water- however even though Bravo posted it I’m putting it in spoiler tags that you can click below as it contains the crew
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Post by moviememories on Dec 16, 2020 19:04:46 GMT
I don't think the chef deserves another chance with them after that crazy and ignorant outburst.
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Post by acookertv on Dec 16, 2020 19:27:08 GMT
Bravo posted a preview on Youtube of when Captain Lee gets mad at the charter guest for jumping in the water- however even though Bravo posted it I’m putting it in spoiler tags that you can click below as it contains the crew Great sluething! And smart move with the spoiler tag!
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Post by holly on Dec 16, 2020 20:01:01 GMT
"Get your f-ing s--t & get the f off my boat"
I love it. These entitled assholes need to know that just because "I paid a lot of money" doesn't mean Captain Lee won't give them consequences from their stupid & dangerous actions!
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 16, 2020 23:11:23 GMT
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Post by DoodleMom921 on Dec 16, 2020 23:23:38 GMT
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Dec 16, 2020 23:30:08 GMT
Sure looks like Rachel came back to the yatch after all.
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Post by moviememories on Dec 17, 2020 21:32:48 GMT
Sure looks like Rachel came back to the yatch after all. Sorry to hear that.
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Post by holly on Dec 18, 2020 14:51:14 GMT
I'm hoping the new deckhand is {Spoiler}
The last sentence is what is giving me hope!
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Post by acookertv on Dec 22, 2020 15:20:52 GMT
I thought Rachel came back in the right way. I think Capt Lee took her back in the right way - making it clear that all was not instantly forgotten. I would guess since Kate recommended her, Lee was well aware of her dramatics before she stepped foot on the yacht. I do wish the deck crew had made her drag her suitcase back on board herself ... but they were right not to.
And Capt Lee's instincts about the guests seemed to be spot on - they were all talk and image, but not quite as demanding as they appeared.
I was also impressed with the way that Capt Lee talked to Francesca about Elizabeth. She is right to be frustrated with how poorly Elizabeth listens and the job that she does. But her performance is not necessarily giving a lot of fire-able offenses, and I wonder if she'd be determined to get rid of her had the deck crew not had to fire someone who was much more problematic. It seems like Lee knows it, so he was wise to give the advice about the devil you know vs the once you don't.
I do think Eddie made a mistake to get involved in talking to Elizabeth and telling her what Capt Lee had said. I don't think he'd like it if Francesca talked to a deckhand he was having issues with and tried to make him/her feel better. He's only going to make things worse by trying to "help".
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Post by beerbelly on Dec 22, 2020 18:15:46 GMT
Agreed on all counts! What was Eddie thinking getting involved in that mess? As a department head, he should have kept his mouth shut.
These guests are delightful, they are so appreciative of the food and service. It makes me happy to see appreciate people!
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