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Post by acookertv on Oct 12, 2021 18:33:19 GMT
So true Beerbelly! Matt should be taking A LOT of heat for how distracting all his whining is. Many people are going to complain on the job and vent. But the good ones recognize when things are crazy and brush those frustrations aside for the good of the overall team. Matt is totally clueless to the struggles of the others on the crew!
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 12, 2021 19:43:29 GMT
Man...Matt sure does get into his own head, doesn't he? That mess of eggs was making me cringe! I could have cooked an egg!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 12, 2021 19:47:25 GMT
There was actually a moment watching him with the eggs that I started to wonder if he was breaking them on purpose to create drama and focus attention on himself. It seemed like with an egg or two the camera showed him poking the spatula into the egg.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 12, 2021 19:58:34 GMT
Ya know...I wondered that myself! I couldn't believe HOW bad it was going
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 12, 2021 20:04:10 GMT
There was actually a moment watching him with the eggs that I started to wonder if he was breaking them on purpose to create drama and focus attention on himself. It seemed like with an egg or two the camera showed him poking the spatula into the egg. I guess after Lexi was fired they needed a new source of drama... EGG-gate!!! lol The eggs were awful, and Mat's need for constant validation was to over the top for me by the end here. I can see hes more likeable than Lexi was, odd and at time creepy, but more likeable.. but I would be done with him when the season was over. lol. It has been hard for me to post here much because I know I am watching a week ahead of all of you so I do not want to slip and spoil something without knowing i did but I will say I would take half of this crew back for another season, they were very likeable for the most part. One rule however, no more "Daddy." Ok maybe two.. no more twerking.
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 12, 2021 21:50:42 GMT
Oh, and I love these guests. When they walked in and saw Matt and asked where his hair net was!
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 13, 2021 12:48:31 GMT
The female Primary (Jemele Hill) this trip is annoying as all get out to me. She was on OG Below Deck last season I think it was.. she was there for her bachelorette party and drove them crazy with her (and her guests) demands, and called Kate out for not liking them. I guess her friends haven't changed much, even the new group is demanding. Staying up until 4:30/5 am and wanting 'snacks' at that time is a bit much, one Chef, he DOES deserve SOME sleep... the guy would be up in 2 hours to start breakfast. I guess there was one breakfast, since you bring up the hair net comment, they did find a hair in their food. Lucky enough Capt Sandy walked in to check on them and being the good Front of House Manager she is, ran the plate off to Mat to rip him a new one and get it remade. I just want to know who the hair belonged to since well.. Mat is pretty lacking in that department.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 15, 2021 16:52:06 GMT
Bravo is doing a marathon of season 1 today. It never stops amazing me every time I watch this season how differently Capt Lee was portrayed back then. The bosun is an absolute a-hole in all the ways he talks about how horrible he is - and the production seemed on board with it!
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 15, 2021 20:53:52 GMT
I came into the BD franchise late and I still feel like that first season of OG BD is like light years behind where they are now lol.
I did see there was a lot of Below Deck on Bravo today when i went to record the WWHL for the reunion after Monday's show. I thought about putting it on while working but I knew I'd be too distracted yelling things at the screen because so much of that cast was so awful lol. Wasn't that the season with Eddie and David on deck? I can't recall if they were season 1 or 2, they were the absolute best together, LOVE them both. Who was the Bosun that season? I don't remember them having one till Eddie was promoted.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 15, 2021 23:44:41 GMT
Yes Eddie was one of the deckhands season 1. I don’t remember the name of the bosun, but he was a jerk. He’d been a captain before so he spent a lot of time second guessing Capt Lee similar to how Bugsy always did to Hannah.
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Post by karna68 on Oct 18, 2021 13:52:04 GMT
Marathon all month! My favorite season is still and will always be BD season 6, Josiah
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 18, 2021 15:47:13 GMT
Yes Eddie was one of the deckhands season 1. I don’t remember the name of the bosun, but he was a jerk. He’d been a captain before so he spent a lot of time second guessing Capt Lee similar to how Bugsy always did to Hannah. Oh you mean Aleks! He was a turd patty with a tude that is for sure. He wasn't the Bosun however, he was the First Officer. And, yeah, I remember his "but I am a Captain" complex because he drove some small boat in Cali or something. I think the bigger problem was that he actually was hired to be the captain but the owners had an issue so Lee was called in. I used to laugh when they would show him sitting on the bench on the bridge like he thought he still in charge and they never hired Capt. Lee.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 18, 2021 15:54:16 GMT
I didn't know he'd originally been cast as Captain! I'm glad the owners had an issue with that! What a different show it would have been without Lee!
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Post by FireWoman on Oct 18, 2021 16:28:41 GMT
I didn't know he'd originally been cast as Captain! I'm glad the owners had an issue with that! What a different show it would have been without Lee! I know! I love that old bugger! I also have to wonder if Aleks would have been different if he was left at the wheel? I don't see him ever being the face of the series like Lee has been, but his attitude may (and I add a large helping of salt to that may, lol) have been better. I can see how one would be 'salty' if you were cast as Capt, and then busted to FO. Lee wasn't initially happy either about being in the position he was in.. but now loves it. I am happy that he came around to his place in the series, it would not be the same without him. Much like, for me at least, Glenn on SY... now given the turnover that mid-range dining has, Sandy can go at any time for me.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 18, 2021 16:37:37 GMT
I think the brilliance of Lee is that he IS the face of the show, but he constantly uses that stature to deflect attention elsewhere. He's the narrator in a sense, but knows the most interesting stories are about other people. Sandy I think knows that's her job, but doesn't do it as well. Glen absolutely embraces that role.
I don't see Aleks as the kind of person who would deflect attention elsewhere. I think he would have believed the show was all about him and would have sunk it (pun intended).
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 10:48:39 GMT
Well that was an uneventful reunion show! I know it would have been very different had Lexi shown up - but not surprised she didn't. It's a lot easier for her to throw barbs from afar than to have to answer to any of her behavior. I'm disappointed that once again Sandy can get away with her lack of leadership by just saying had she seen more she would have acted. She seemed to put all the blame on not firing Lexi sooner on Katie claiming she wasn't given specific examples. But she wasn't really open to hearing them - that's on her! Why didn't she ask questions to get more answers? I'd venture to guess it's because she didn't want to deal with it!
Not a surprise at all that as soon as Matt faced the fire his instinct was to lash out and attack Capt Sandy. She's not great - but any valid criticism is lost in the way he delivers it.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 19, 2021 19:44:42 GMT
I go back and forth on Mat every 2 seconds. He struggles with confidence and reminds me so much of my 15 year old nephew that it's difficult for me to DISlike him. Mat has a lot of growing up to do and I'm hopeful this show has started that for him. He gets it in moments and then like you said, lashes out at Captain Sandy and says something he probably doesn't even mean. It came across as "well yah...I don't like you either!" with a tongue sticking out I laughed when Sandy was asked about the moment when Malia "covered" for David with the jet ski "incident." She had no idea what to say and just blurted out "well she should have told me!" Then Malia states calmly and intelligently that she didn't even know what the issue was yet and so she wasn't even covering for him. Sandy just needs to make it all about her ...all the time. All in all though I really enjoyed this cast. I loved how much they bonded and got along. I love that they have a text strand between all of them and as they said are in touch daily. I love that they rented a place together after charter was over and that we'll never know what happened there. But dang Bravo...you missed an opportunity to get the good stuff! I also loved that Lloyd was offered the position for the crossing and that he's onboard a yacht now (or was at time of filming) that he feels comfortable with AND is in a relationship!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 19:52:39 GMT
It was very nice to see such a close and bonded crew. At first when Lloyd was asked to do the crossing I worried that he was going to miss Split as a result of that. I'm glad he didn't.
It did frustrate me a bit, and I think I blame some of it on them being so close, that Delaney was treated the way she was. I'm sorry - but Katie deserved some heat for creating problems because she didn't keep Delaney on and Delaney did NOT deserve to be treated like she was over the experience she didn't have. It's the production's fault that they did not have a proper stew in quarantine - not Delaney's. It makes sense to me that they got someone who could do both jobs - and she demonstrated she could do the work. She may not have been as good as Courtney, but she was willing to work hard and learn and Katie acknowledged that. So it was frustrating that all that was forgotten for the reunion.
Had Katie kept Delaney on and put her in laundry, the morning of the last charter when Courtney was on shore setting up the picnic, Katie would have been on deck serving drinks instead of nowhere to be found with a guest calling out searching for someone to make a drink. That wasn't Delaney's fault - it was Katies.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 19, 2021 20:03:12 GMT
100% Katie should have kept Delaney. I really thought she was going to own up to that last night.
I do think at first their bond had something to do with it but then when Delaney went out to dinner with them on her last night and they all had so much fun together I had hope that Katie would keep her. It was a ridiculous decision that resulted in Katie working 19 hour days. For the life of me I can't imagine why she still thinks this was the best decision. Was it all money related? Delaney could have poured coffee, helped on service so Malia didn't have to, made beds, cleaned toilets, been in laundry. There are SO many things 2 extra hands could have done without needing much training at all. I had wished that Katie got more heat for that too.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 19, 2021 20:04:57 GMT
What really bothered me about it was not just that Katie didn't own up to the mistake, but that she and Malia both justified it by blaming Delaney. It was a mean girl move in an otherwise very cordial and kind cast.
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Post by karna68 on Oct 20, 2021 14:22:30 GMT
Guys, really cool if you're interested. My Seanna just got an overhaul and it's on YouTube. Just search My Seanna refit. Kinda cool to see the boat behind the scenes.
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Post by beerbelly on Oct 20, 2021 22:57:47 GMT
One thing that I appreciate in a leader is their acknowledgment when they make mistakes. Sandy does not do that. If production had to step in to make sure no one was hurt during the terror of Lexi, how did Sandy not know that? She is always popping her nose in and asking how things are going and what have you. Sandy blamed everyone but herself. I wonder if she thought that keeping Lexi would be making a more interesting show. I feel that Sandy plays to the camera a lot and does 'leadership' things to promote her brand and is very aware of the camera.
I also think that Matt has a crush on Katie and that is why he was asking for so much attention from her. He isn't very mature.
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 21, 2021 0:32:35 GMT
VERY good point, beerbelly! Sandy kept claiming that she didn't know what happened until she watched the season. But you're right, I find it very hard to believe that if production had to step in that Sandy did not know that!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 21, 2021 1:02:44 GMT
I also love the insight of Matt possibly having a crush on Katie. You’re right that he’s lacking maturity, and that’s a tactic a 13 year old would use to try to draw someone in.
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Post by boann on Oct 22, 2021 0:41:31 GMT
One thing that I appreciate in a leader is their acknowledgment when they make mistakes. Sandy does not do that. If production had to step in to make sure no one was hurt during the terror of Lexi, how did Sandy not know that? She is always popping her nose in and asking how things are going and what have you. Sandy blamed everyone but herself. I wonder if she thought that keeping Lexi would be making a more interesting show. I feel that Sandy plays to the camera a lot and does 'leadership' things to promote her brand and is very aware of the camera. I also think that Matt has a crush on Katie and that is why he was asking for so much attention from her. He isn't very mature. I think that Sandy is just too caught up in her own narrative. The crew did talk to her about that night, though maybe not every detail. She has admitted that she was a disaster in her youth while she was drinking, so I think she empathizes with struggling young women. What she fails to realize is that how she “encourages” them ends up giving them the power for the success or failure of the interior, but holding the chief stew accountable if there is a failure. She has said a “leader needs to know how to motivate her crew and figure it out”. There is a truth to that statement because leaders need to learn how to lead, but what she does not say to Lexi is that it is her responsibility to figure out how to work with Katie. By saying to Lexi she sees how hard Lexi works and that Katie needs to figure out how to motivate her, Lexi is able to defy Katie, and Katie is held responsible. This is why both Katie and Hannah had anxiety attacks while working. It’s messed up being held responsible for someone’s bad behavior while that person is deliberately misbehaving.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 26, 2021 2:04:33 GMT
Well I have to hand it to Bravo. In this Captain they’ve gone a long way to show us Sandy is actually not the worst!
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Post by downsey on Oct 26, 2021 4:11:44 GMT
lol...that was certainly a first episode. Shall we guess how many people make it through the season? Can you imagine Malia with these deckhands? Not sure about the Chief Stew, her number two, the deckhands and as mentioned by acookertv...Captain Chaos. Fasten your seatbelts
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Post by JustJuls on Oct 26, 2021 6:28:29 GMT
Captain Chaos So crazy that 2 seasons in a row Captain Lee wasn't there when the season started! This Captain is nuts! I have a feeling that he isn't normally a captain on a boat WITH guests. It felt like he was so excited about that. No Captain would ever be ok with letting the guests wait half hour let alone an HOUR just to stage a picnic. Eddie's comments about him were the best SO many new faces! It's going to take a sec to figure them all out. Heather seems ok so far. Really too early to tell. Fraser had some funny lines. Not enough to go on for the rest of them. Come back Captain Lee!!!!
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Post by acookertv on Oct 26, 2021 10:56:06 GMT
That's a great point Juls - this captain may very well be more of a cross over captain. That would make sense.
I do think Eddie truly has grown in to being the best in his role. His leadership style comes across as laid back but he's truly in control. He also does a great job of not complaining down - during the whole beach set up we knew from the interviews he was frustrated, but he wasn't letting it rub off on the crew.
Fraser rubbed me the wrong way. I think this Chief Stew is very competent and was doing a good job of letting them know what to expect, but he seemed ready to nitpick every little detail. She could have been all over him for the fact that he caused the primary's complaints about her room, but she kept it top level and just told him expectations. It seems like in the past he's worked on larger crews where he's been able to be more hyperfocused. If he's watched two episodes of Below Deck, he knows that's not the case on a yacht like this!
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Post by momrek06 on Oct 26, 2021 13:58:05 GMT
I watched off and on the first epi as we are off to Vegas this morn for a few fun days BUT I will say I did watch this season's previews after the epi OH MY MY MY. It looks like it's going to be one crazyyyyyy season. RACHEL IS BACK. Hmmmmm. I like the Chief Stew.....Heather, I think? I am liking Rayna allot. She is adorable. AND STRONG. The stand-in Capt what was he trying to do with that spare room??? Waiting for Capt Lee!!!!!
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