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Post by JustJuls on Oct 24, 2018 17:39:23 GMT
Hahaa yes...that would definitely throw me for a loop
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Post by JoRyMom on Oct 24, 2018 18:21:59 GMT
Who do y’all think it’s gonna be that gets fired? Capt Lee warns in his blog this week that things are getting ready to get really bumpy. I love this season already. Kate is just so much more put together than Hannah. It’s so refreshing to have her and Capt Lee after the disaster that was the last season of BD Med.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 24, 2018 18:48:53 GMT
I think that Kate shows what a huge difference support from a great captain can make. I think that when other crew members say disparaging things about her dept or the deck crew, she lets it roll off her back because she knows they're venting, and she knows that she's got the full backing and support of Capt Lee. Hannah is not quite as good (or experienced) at her job, but she's also got looming over her head the uncertainty of whether Sandy will back her or slam her. Kate can take more risks because she knows that if she succeeds Capt Lee will congratulate her, and if she fails, he'll acknowledge that, and then move on to the great things she's done.
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Post by annab on Oct 24, 2018 22:12:33 GMT
I wonder if it is going to be Chandler. Maybe he will have a fit because sees Rhylee as being wrong and then we get the clip of Kate telling him he has to go. Hmmmm… I dunno. Caroline is kind of on the edge emotionally, yet Kate seems to like her work, it's hard for me to see how it turns sour all of a sudden with that work relationship. I'm liking this season so far. The drama is where it belongs.
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Post by boann on Oct 24, 2018 23:01:32 GMT
As the daughter of a narcissist I empathize with Caroline. The push and pull is so difficult to navigate. You never really know where you stand because love fells so conditional. It took me years and years to manage the social tightrope I would feel I was walking. I definitely got the “you’re overthinking this” comment more than once. Of course I’m overthinking it! Do you have any idea how hard it is to figure out the randomness of it all so that some connection/peace/approval is attained? So exhausting. Especially for Caroline.
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Post by betty80 on Oct 24, 2018 23:22:47 GMT
As the daughter of a narcissist I empathize with Caroline. The push and pull is so difficult to navigate. You never really know where you stand because love fells so conditional. It took me years and years to manage the social tightrope I would feel I was walking. I definitely got the “you’re overthinking this” comment more than once. Of course I’m overthinking it! Do you have any idea how hard it is to figure out the randomness of it all so that some connection/peace/approval is attained? So exhausting. Especially for Caroline. I'm sorry you had to live with that.
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Post by annab on Oct 25, 2018 19:41:13 GMT
As the daughter of a narcissist I empathize with Caroline. The push and pull is so difficult to navigate. You never really know where you stand because love fells so conditional. It took me years and years to manage the social tightrope I would feel I was walking. I definitely got the “you’re overthinking this” comment more than once. Of course I’m overthinking it! Do you have any idea how hard it is to figure out the randomness of it all so that some connection/peace/approval is attained? So exhausting. Especially for Caroline. I'm sorry you had to live with that. I'm sorry you had to live with that as well.
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Post by pretlitdev on Oct 25, 2018 21:28:09 GMT
Captain Lee sure sees a lot doesn't he? I was struck by when he said Rhylee was a pain to work with, but she was a hard worker. He nailed it there. Unless she snaps and does something extreme (which I could see) I'd think that Captain might fire Chandler for being a terrible leader. Then again, it looks like whoever gets fired has to be escorted off the boat which I could see Rhylee doing more than him.
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Post by betty80 on Oct 26, 2018 23:52:24 GMT
Did Rhylee flash her boob at dinner? If she did, I don't think it would have been laughed off if she was a man.
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Post by annab on Oct 31, 2018 19:44:01 GMT
Boy, can Caroline give some attitude to the deck hands! As far as guests go, this "new money" crowd seems kind of icky. They aren't gracious, or fun. Just into themselves... a lot. Not going to even talk about the shake scene.
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Post by acookertv on Oct 31, 2018 19:51:44 GMT
New or old aside, I think these charter guests are the grossest kind of money - those who think that "the help" are inferior to them and don't need to be treated as human. The disrespect they showed was just wrong. It makes you really appreciate what a charter crew goes through, and helps you to understand what a difference it makes to have guests who appreciate the hard work that goes in to taking care of them. I'm really liking the progression of this season, where things started out near perfect on the first charter and then have slowly unraveled from there. Caroline is just lacking some of the necessary social skills to recognize that everything is not always about her ... Kate's focus is not always on her, the deck crews responsibilities are not always about helping her out. I don't think she notices that when she's icing her foot, or putting together drinks, the deck crew doesn't ask her to step in and help with their duties. They respect that she's doing her thing and they need to do theirs. She also reminds me of an 8 year old girl with a crush the way that she translates her attraction to Chandler to some sort of chemistry, and then explains his total indifference to her to be mixed signals. There are no mixed signals dear ... he's not interested and he's showing you that. As annoying as Rylee is, I have to hand it to her rolling with all of Chandlers screw ups with assignments. She can see he's screwing up, and is stepping back to let him put that on display. Every member of the deck crew can tell that an approach of reacting to the need of the moment rather than having a schedule is not working except for him. It's going to blow up, and I think Rylee is the one crew member who is smart enough to know she just has to let it happen. Now if only she could figure out how to do the same every time she doesn't like the way someone talks to her!
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Post by lonnie on Nov 1, 2018 15:14:47 GMT
Caroline gives me a headache.
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Post by pretlitdev on Nov 1, 2018 19:24:13 GMT
Rhylee and Caroline are a lot alike. They're both very capable of hard work and we've seen that, but they both have an issue with listening to superiors and letting themselves get flustered too easily. When that happens, they run their mouths when they shouldn't.
I felt bad for Caroline in regards to her foot, but she can stay off it and ice it and still fold laundry, or maybe cut fruit, or do probably a hundred other things that would help out. I can't believe she has been a solo stew because she doesn't seem to have any idea of how to prioritize tasks. And I feel bad for her that she doesn't quite fit in with Josiah and Kate, but that happens sometimes. You're not always going to click with everybody. She's not hated like Rocky was.
Chandler is an idiot. I think the only person I've seen getting regular breaks is him. Aside from when they first meet the guests and are setting sail or coming into dock, it seems like at least one of them should be on a break. And I don't care how much you don't like Rhylee personally, to not bring her on a fishing trip is crazy. Poor Ashton for only getting a few hours of sleep.
Those guests were foul. Why even go on such a luxurious vacation if you're going to be on your phones the whole time.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 1, 2018 19:37:25 GMT
I hadn't thought about it until the way you put it Pretlitdev, but Rhylee and Caroline are illustrating the downside of the challenges of living in such close quarters with your co-workers. Wanting to vent about frustrations is natural and human for many people. But it can be a big problem in such a small group. Normally we vent about work to friend and family when we get home. But for a yacht crew, that's your co-workers! The people who do that job great keep their venting to themselves ... or likely do so via text and phone calls when they get to check in with family. Chandler is certainly viewing breaks as something that the Bosun check list says he has to do for his crew, and is not something that he's scheduling to take care of his crew. He seems to know the rules, but doesn't fully understand the reasons for them existing!
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Post by betty80 on Nov 7, 2018 2:33:27 GMT
Chandler is horrible.
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Post by lonnie on Nov 7, 2018 3:33:27 GMT
I didn't see the new episode yet, but I assume Chandler is probably the best bet to be booted eventually? lol
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Post by beerbelly on Nov 7, 2018 3:53:18 GMT
I hate how he says 'the girls' where A. Kate is not a 'girl and B. Josiah is not a 'girl' either.
And he blames his crew on his bad decisions!!!
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Post by acookertv on Nov 7, 2018 11:02:09 GMT
He blames his crew for his bad decisions, and he fixates on how they should have his back ... but never does anything to have their backs. I think the core of a lot of his problems is that he's a bit misogynistic. I think that most of his disdain for Rylee stems from not thinking that a woman should be in that job. And I think his disrespect for the interior crew comes from thinking of that as woman's work.
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Post by beerbelly on Nov 7, 2018 13:26:12 GMT
Exactly. He harasses Rhylee and I'm glad Captain Lee mentioned that it was wrong not to have her on the fishing trip. Chandler wasn't thinking of the guests, but of his own issues with her.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 7, 2018 13:55:26 GMT
Chandler does not think big picture. He makes decisions in the moment only, which is why his crew gets worn out and doesn't really know what is going on. I really do wonder how all that is going to play into what appears to be the accident with a crew member sliding off the back of the boat that was previewed so much.
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Post by pretlitdev on Nov 8, 2018 4:21:26 GMT
I wouldn't be surprised if someone slid off because he didn't give proper instructions, or because they were so tired from him being the only one to get breaks that someone made a mistake. I can't believe he didn't think to leave someone on the boat during that lunch-or rather, I CAN believe it because was it Rhylee who suggested it? Acookertv, I bet you're right and he's the type of man that thinks a woman has nothing to add.
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Post by lonnie on Nov 9, 2018 0:53:41 GMT
I had a similiar experience when I was younger, of misandry. I applied at a Merry Maids... and the females interviewing me asked if I was at the right place, questioned why I wanted to work there as a male, and said I would be the only male on their staff if I was hired and laughed a lot about it.
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Post by karna68 on Nov 9, 2018 13:15:13 GMT
I love Josiah, he and Kate are great together. I hope he's back next season but they haven't been repeating crew like that lately have they?
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Post by pretlitdev on Nov 9, 2018 20:46:25 GMT
My bet is Josiah doesn't come back. So far, he's pretty low drama, more than competent at his job, and doesn't give off the great soundbites that Captain Lee and Kate do. Same for Adrian and Ross.
Has anyone read about how mad the primary from these two episodes was at how he was portrayed? He went after Kate really hard for some reason.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 9, 2018 21:20:15 GMT
Haven't read that, but now I want to! Where did you read it?
On Josiah, I can see what you are saying. I think that if he was brought back, he could be developed into playing along with a lot of Kate's humor and they could be worked into an entertaining team. I don't think they'd cut him from the cast for being boring as quickly as they may some others who contribute as low key as he does. And if they can do storylines this time with Caroline feeling left out with Kate and Josiah, imagine how much that could be played up with a newbie who was aware that the two of them had a history together.
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Post by beerbelly on Nov 9, 2018 21:53:15 GMT
I read that too, but forgot where. He said that they were on their phones because they were all on a 'workation' (is that a thing?) and that the condom was a joke that Caroline put on and that he doesn't use condoms. He also said that he was on Sharktank for his breathalyzer app.
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Post by JustJuls on Nov 10, 2018 1:17:36 GMT
Lies.
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Post by woodiedog on Nov 12, 2018 12:04:46 GMT
Can I just say how great the chef is? He seems young, but so experienced and wise. It's like he has an old soul. I don't know how he gained all this culinary wisdom.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 14, 2018 10:56:59 GMT
I gained so much respect for Adrian last night in the way he tried to handle Caroline and her whining. I was so impressed with him that I was making mental notes of how I can copy his style at times in my own workplace! And while I was not enthusiastic about it at first, I really enjoyed seeing the dynamic change in having a group of charter guests that included children. It was interesting to see how that threw a wrench into having to figure out different activities, and to change up the schedule with meals happening earlier.
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Post by beerbelly on Nov 14, 2018 13:17:50 GMT
He wasn't my favorite at first either, but I have so much respect for him. He has been knocking it out of the park every time and the one time he didn't, it was for 10 people with a myriad of different allergies - keeping those straight, cooking times and an early sitting is amazing that he didn't melt down of forget an allergy. I didn't mind Caroline but when she went to Adrian with 'feedback' I thought that was just mean.
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