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Post by FannyMare on Apr 14, 2021 20:12:52 GMT
I wish him only the very best! He has suffered unnecessarily for so long. He is finally learning to not just 'accept' who he is, but to embrace it. Doing it publicly takes courage. I don't know if Cassie was the one who made the difference for him, but he deserves to be free at last. I, 100% support and respect him for being himself, and for acknowledging being gay. The coming out publicly is, hopefully, inspiring for others. Exactly. Well said! |
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Post by acookertv on Apr 14, 2021 20:14:49 GMT
He's certainly not the first celebrity to gain fame for being perceived as a hot heterosexual man while hiding his truth. I'm not sure I see a great deal of difference between an actor or singer pretending to date women in order to secure heartthrob status and fame and what Colton has done. Would blind gossip have enough to write about to even exist if it wasn't for all the men in Hollywood hiding that they are gay?
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 14, 2021 22:24:27 GMT
I have no problem at all with him going on dating TV shows, or dating women, or professing to be straight.
I figure he was trying to figure himself out. Maybe hoping that he could "turn himself" away from any gay leanings.
This is fairly common among guys, especially with religious upbringings, who just plain don't want to be gay & are trying to find women who will be enough to overcome it.
I know, you can't "overcome" being gay. You either are or you aren't. But a lot of guys very strongly don't want to be. They want to be like all the other guys. They want to be thought of as "real men".
I think it took this long for Colton to face who he really has been all along. And that he isn't going to change that, so he might as well admit it & embrace it.
I hope so too. I hope he's finally happy with himself & who he is, exactly as he is.
To people who care about him, it won't make a difference. They'll still care about him.
As for those who won't like him anymore, well, they were never his friends in the first place. They and their opinions don't matter.
If someone cares it won't matter, but if it matters they don't really care.
My only problem with all this is.... Why do people have this huge need to "come out" publicly & make this big dramatic announcement? Is is really other people's information to know or judge? Why do they need an announcement?
I don't like the strong indication that this whole announcement is just another grab for public attention. Trying to basically advertise himself & his future money making opportunities.
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 14, 2021 22:35:01 GMT
I just wish that society, especially religions, didn't pathologize homosexuality in a way that makes people have to fight with and hide who they are.
In the article I read at the GMA site, it said that Colton knew he was different from the age of 6, but it wasn't something he knew how to process. It wasn't until high school that he realized he was more attracted to men and boys. That knowing at a young age matches up with what most gay men have told me. My brother said that, when he was about that age (6), he had a crush on the Jolly Green Giant. (Just so you know.... Back in the day, the Jolly Green Giant was a actual grown human man in tights and a leotard covered with grape leaves. :D )
If people could feel free to be who they are, that would alleviate so much pain for so many people. Having grown up in the Mormon church, I know so many women who have married gay men and spent their entire marriage thinking there was something the matter with them because their husband didn't seem to be sexually attracted to them.
I'm happy for Colton that he's finally coming out. But I also have a lot of the feelings expressed by others about finding the big GMA reveal more than a bit coincidental given his upcoming Netflix show. He is far too hooked on public attention, and given his mental health challenges, I'm thinking this splashy way of coming out is probably not in his best interest. I also don't give him a pass for the psychological trauma he caused to Cassie with the whole stalking thing. Lots of people struggle with coming to terms with their sexuality (and with mood disorders) without acting out in that way.
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Post by Kao on Apr 14, 2021 23:02:06 GMT
Thank you for your comment, MissGriss. Your comment tracks with the experiences of a lot of gay/lesbian/trans I know; I remember a boy in particular I had a giant crush on in HS that I saw years later at the gay club, lol. He said the reason why he didn't respond to my advances back then was because he didn't want to lead me on, which was respectful. I also know some folks who deliberately married women knowing they were gay to have children, only to be on the downlow and that's a terrible thing to do to anyone. Like you, I blame society for making it hard for people to come out; some people have been disowned and I don't get that at all; if you're going to disown your own child over something like that you don't deserve to have a child, IMO. In this case, it looks like a gay guy who pretended to be straight to get on a dating show for fame, and is now being rewarded with another show despite his abuse of a past partner he met on the show. If I were a future prospect I would steer clear of him period as he seems extremely immature in general and would probably do the same to me that he did to Cassie; with stalking behavior it's depressingly common how it's done to more than one partner. I don't care if she took the charges off; the fact that he did it in the first place is pretty damaging. We also don't know why she dropped the charges either; she wouldn't be the first women who was persuaded to do so. Sadly, stalking is not considered a "serious" crime to a lot of people until someone ends up dead. |
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Post by FannyMare on Apr 14, 2021 23:12:10 GMT
I have no problem at all with him going on dating TV shows, or dating women, or professing to be straight. I figure he was trying to figure himself out. Maybe hoping that he could "turn himself" away from any gay leanings. This is fairly common among guys, especially with religious upbringings, who just plain don't want to be gay & are trying to find women who will be enough to overcome it. I know, you can't "overcome" being gay. You either are or you aren't. But a lot of guys very strongly don't want to be. They want to be like all the other guys. They want to be thought of as "real men". I think it took this long for Colton to face who he really has been all along. And that he isn't going to change that, so he might as well admit it & embrace it. I hope so too. I hope he's finally happy with himself & who he is, exactly as he is. To people who care about him, it won't make a difference. They'll still care about him. As for those who won't like him anymore, well, they were never his friends in the first place. They and their opinions don't matter. If someone cares it won't matter, but if it matters they don't really care. My only problem with all this is.... Why do people have this huge need to "come out" publicly & make this big dramatic announcement? Is is really other people's information to know or judge? Why do they need an announcement? I don't like the strong indication that this whole announcement is just another grab for public attention. Trying to basically advertise himself & his future money making opportunities. I think it was good he came out publicly. It puts rumors to rest and perhaps might help one person with the same internal struggles. It made me sad he contemplated suicide, he wouldn't be the first of course. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 23:14:53 GMT
Or maybe there was no stalking. Cassie and Colton, and Cassie’s family, were shooting a reality show. He pulled out. And that’s when she filed charges... that she later dropped.
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Post by Kao on Apr 14, 2021 23:26:55 GMT
That's interesting. Did she also get another guy who sounded similar to him make phone calls and leave threatening messages at her and her parent's house? Or put a tracking device on her own car?
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 23:37:07 GMT
That's interesting. Did she also get another guy who sounded similar to him make phone calls and leave threatening messages at her and her parent's house? Or put a tracking device on her own car? I guess it all comes down to what sources we look at but apparently there was no there there for it to go to court. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 14, 2021 23:43:19 GMT
He said he came to terms with it earlier this year. That's when the struggle in his head and his heart ended. That's when he owned it and accepted it. That's the storyline for most. Coming to terms with something and KNOWING it are two different things. Going on dates with men in public and (reportedly) having sex with men doesn't seem like someone who isn't sure about their sexuality. He literally said that he knew he was gay in high school - he was more attracted to men and boys and not to women. That's not vague.
He literally said that he was a virgin because he was gay. My comment is that he was a virgin with women. He even specifically said that he's never had an emotional relationship with another man.
But fine, maybe he wasn't sure he was gay (even though he specifically said he knew he was). What moral, kind person thinks the best way to figure out whether he's gay or not is to go on the biggest dating show on TV and date several dozen women, most if not all of whom are thinking they might be your wife some day?
The fact that many contestants on the Bach franchise end up having to quit their jobs or at least take a leave of absence, means that all those women not only put themselves out there personally and emotionally for Colton, but they lost money and possibly a job. My mom joked that they should file a class action suit. Of course, when you go on one of these shows, you know that your chances of being the final one and finding your life partner are pretty low. In the case of the women on Colton's season, their chances were NIL. That's a problem.
IMO, the terms he was speaking about coming to terms with were the financial ones with Netflix. I'd guess that, without that deal, he would have stayed in the closet, at least until another deal came along. Maybe he shopped around his story to Netflix when it became obvious that Fleiss wasn't going to have him come back for another Bach season. Whatever the case may be, Colton cares about being famous and this announcement has brought him the attention he craves.
I'm sorry - I'm just not persuaded by your argument. There are text messages between Colton and Cassie that clearly show how much he felt for her. He considered her his best friend and his lover and let's face it, he jumped a fence at one point because he felt such a strong connection to her. There was something there. I'm sure whatever it was only confused him more because as a Catholic, there was that strong desire to not sin in his eyes. It had to have been torture, a constant struggle. Not a struggle I would ever wish on anyone. So no, he did not know when you say he did. Not in my opinion, anyway. He knew when he knew and he says that was earlier this year. |
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 15, 2021 19:36:32 GMT
Or maybe there was no stalking. Cassie and Colton, and Cassie’s family, were shooting a reality show. He pulled out. And that’s when she filed charges... that she later dropped. I've always been a bit skeptical about Cassie & her intentions. I'm not saying that I doubt the stalking, but maybe there was more with her than we know. It sounded like she wasn't willing to just cut the cord & lose all the media attention. She seemed like she was continuing to lead him on even while saying it was over. Why did she continue contact with him & arranging Reality TV series with him? I think she's just as much a media hound as he is. She's been on multiple Reality TV shows too. She wants the attention just as much as Colton & he was her ticket. It wouldn't surprise me at all if she's on BIP this Summer. |
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Post by Mikesgirl on Apr 16, 2021 19:50:30 GMT
His focus for years has been on helping others. I think he fought against it for a long time. I don't think he was trying to delude us, but that he was really hoping he would 'become' heterosexual if he worked at it long enough. He was afraid of being gay, probably because of what his religion dictates. Being a spiritual person, and coming from a religious Catholic family, that must have been very difficult. Social awareness is still rather stilted, unfortunately.
So, if he can help others understand what it means to be gay, and learn from his experience by doing the Netflix show, then he will probably consider it worth it.
But, I agree, being in the media can be addicting. I don't know him personally, so I don't want to judge him on this. But, I do believe he has a fear of social rejection, and wants to be accepted. So, I guess we will have to wait and see how all of this plays out. I wish him the best, and I hope that Netflix provides society with something informative, and meaningful. Society as a whole needs to elevate their consciousness, and this is elementary level social awareness.
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Post by MissGriss on Apr 20, 2021 5:57:24 GMT
I'm feeling so bad for Cassie. For the last few days, everywhere I look I see pictures of the two of them. That would not be fun!
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Post by Amy Lee on Apr 20, 2021 14:36:27 GMT
Or maybe there was no stalking. Cassie and Colton, and Cassie’s family, were shooting a reality show. He pulled out. And that’s when she filed charges... that she later dropped. What???? I didn't know they were shooting a reality show. |
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 20, 2021 18:00:33 GMT
Or maybe there was no stalking. Cassie and Colton, and Cassie’s family, were shooting a reality show. He pulled out. And that’s when she filed charges... that she later dropped. What???? I didn't know they were shooting a reality show.  Yes! So, from what I understand, they were filming a "what our lives are like post-breakup" reality TV show and Colton wanted out, and so the timing of the charges started a bit of a hubbub. And then she never went through with the charges... Something is up with Cassie. I don't know what it is exactly but something feels off to me. |
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Post by Eastcoastmom on Apr 22, 2021 18:47:20 GMT
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 22, 2021 22:59:48 GMT
What???? I didn't know they were shooting a reality show. Yes! So, from what I understand, they were filming a "what our lives are like post-breakup" reality TV show and Colton wanted out, and so the timing of the charges started a bit of a hubbub. And then she never went through with the charges... Something is up with Cassie. I don't know what it is exactly but something feels off to me.
Yes. I don't know why, but it always has to me too. |
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Post by Kao on Apr 25, 2021 17:07:16 GMT
What???? I didn't know they were shooting a reality show. Yes! So, from what I understand, they were filming a "what our lives are like post-breakup" reality TV show and Colton wanted out, and so the timing of the charges started a bit of a hubbub. And then she never went through with the charges... Something is up with Cassie. I don't know what it is exactly but something feels off to me. From what I've read it wasn't that she dropped charges; she got the order of protection and it ran out in October of last year. For whatever reason she chose not to renew it.
Unfortunately, speaking from personal experience you need a lot more proof when getting an order of protection with stalking cases than a regular domestic violence case; you either have to prove a pattern of stalking over a period of time, or two or more credible threats. Depending on what state you live in you might not have resources at all. There's a reason why people bring literally binders of telephone records, photographs, letters, etc.
With that said, I'm bowing out of this thread. It's brought back a lot of horrible memories, and basically seeing a lot of people being okay with what he did and lying to women about his sexual orientation is really leaving a bad taste in my mouth. I don't care how badly you are doing; it doesn't give you the right to lie to others and drag them into something they might not have agreed to had they known the whole story.
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Post by Cuddles on Apr 25, 2021 22:28:41 GMT
I don’t like that you are getting upset, Kao . Certainly someone who has firsthand experience would be a better judge so I hear you. The only reason I have any opinion on this whatsoever is because there’s something coming from my gut, not my intelligence (or lack thereof). Cassie just always talks in riddles. She’s never got a straight answer, like her last reply was something about there being “a lot of layers” to the situation and in January when she was moving she said she and her sis weren’t going to live together anymore, “living status updates to come”. She acts very young but at the same time, she’s very clever and in control. Always has been. Just seems to enjoy keeping others wondering, like if she’s a mystery she’ll stay on your radar. Anyway, that’s just the sense that I get. Colton’s lawyer actually had the order of protection extended but Cassie turned around and dropped it. And Cassie’s sis (who she was living with) was adamant that there was no filming or anything in progress but several of the entertainment programs confirmed there was and then the guy Cassie was with wrote a song about Colton, called “Creep” which to me was a weird thing - would you want your new boyfriend to profit off of your pain? She’s also acting as though she is blindsided that he is gay, and in part I think that makes sense because he says he really felt something strong for her, something he just couldn't reconcile in his head, and from an outsider looking in, they honestly did seem very much into one another for quite a long time, but another part of me says but you know why you broke up... so why are you blindsided? Enough. I’m out, too. You make great points, and I hear you, I just have this inkling that Cassie is not being completely honest with the public. |
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Post by DoodleMom921 on Apr 28, 2021 18:30:58 GMT
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Post by MissScarlet on Apr 28, 2021 20:21:01 GMT
I'm not the least bit surprised. Ever since the info about her came out & was all over everywhere, but Matt still continued to be "strong" in their relationship, I had a feeling he knew. After all, how could he possibly not. Then right before the ATFR he dropped her like a hot potato because he didn't want to be grilled about it on TV. He did it to save face in public. I had a feeling they'd be back together as soon as the initial criticism died down. Matt's a phoney. A phoney baloney. |
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Post by DoodleMom921 on May 17, 2021 0:54:32 GMT
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Post by DoodleMom921 on May 17, 2021 1:49:08 GMT
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Post by Eastcoastmom on May 31, 2021 1:10:08 GMT
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Post by MissGriss on May 31, 2021 3:34:41 GMT
Caila's dress was so pretty! You can't see much of it in that picture, but I recently rewatched her episode of Say Yes To The Dress, and the embroidery on the fabric was so beautiful and reminiscent of the embroidery on traditional Filipino clothing, which really resonated for her.
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Post by Critical on Jul 15, 2021 21:49:31 GMT
Jared Herbon and Ashley Iaconetti are expecting their first child! I know they're not everyone's cup of tea, but I think they're sweet.
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Post by Cuddles on Jul 21, 2021 12:32:48 GMT
Ashley has been forthcoming about how she had to go off the hormonal medication she was taking for cystic acne in order to have a safe pregnancy and how that is now affecting her skin. I’m impressed by her willingness to do this: it is going to help so many others who have the same issue. You go girl!
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Post by SummerSue on Oct 1, 2021 19:17:35 GMT
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Post by Critical on Oct 1, 2021 19:27:45 GMT
I seem to remember seeing something on Insta about Catherine losing a little weight - maybe 20 lbs. I don't think Mr. My Wife Irons My Socks needed to lose any weight. I suspect what they really need is the money from NutriSystem for shilling their products. |
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Post by MissGriss on Feb 1, 2022 21:27:33 GMT
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Yes! So, from what I understand, they were filming a "what our lives are like post-breakup" reality TV show and Colton wanted out, and so the timing of the charges started a bit of a hubbub. And then she never went through with the charges...
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