5/22 - Survivor 46 FINALE Discussion

I feel awful for Charlie. Maria not voting for him because of " the fire in her eye" and Q voting basically because he feels sorry for Kenzie's hard life had nothing to do with the long game.

I also don't like Kenzie making that snarky remark about how she wanted to say she was going to start a non-profit, too, but that's not why she came out there.  Neither Charlie nor Ben said they were going to start non-profits but that they wanted to donate to non-profits for causes they had already worked with, and Charlie also said he wanted to invest some of the money in himself by paying for law school.  I also have a hard time swallowing how she's always been about helping other people because earlier in the game, she was pretty mean-girl petty about having the power to vote people out she wanted gone, so she's not always been the optimistic little people supporter even in this game.

Charlie looked very hurt by Maria and her comments. Poor guy. 

Yeah, if you count her third win, which happened because she and Liz were allowed to play team-mates in an individual challenge---even Kenzie herself halfway admitted that in the final tribal.  I hope in the future they make it clear that individual challenges are individual challenges.  If a player wants to give up to allow someone else to win, that's their business but no one should get to help someone else win because they want to prevent another person from winning.  I cannot believe that after Kenzie was okay with that happening that Maria voted for her.

For me, Charlie was always more straightforward about what he was doing than Kenzie was and she was quicker to sell out people she claimed to be working with, like Tiffany, whom she was okay with being sent home even before the merge if necessary.  Charlie wasn't after Maria until it got to the point where they both had to consider the other one more of a threat than an ally.

I called this win, I knew the jury was going to base their vote mostly on non-game things. The fact Ben won the final immunity was the only kink in my vision. I felt it was going to be Liz, Charlie, and Kenz. In the end final result was the same Kenz winning, Charlie in second, and someone else getting no votes.

Kenzie had a connection to almost every member of that jury, there was no way she was not going to win. Personally I wanted Charlie, and in some part Liz, to win.

I'd agree that would be a point except Maria knew, and admitted, that she was going after Charlie at the same point he was going after her. They each knew that about the other.  Plus, it's not as if Kenzie didn't want her out just as much as Charlie did, if not more than he did.  Also, again, Charlie did his best to try and beat her in that last challenge, but he didn't work with someone to beat her, as Kenzie did---in fact, Kenzie isn't even the one who figured out she had to go back for that board with the holes in it.  Liz figured that out and Liz went back and got it for her and Liz counted the holes for her, allowing Kenzie to concentrate just on counting the geckos.  And then Maria was supposed to feel all complimented that it took the two of them to beat her? GMAFB.

I also don't buy that Kenzie's business is all about giving other people opportunities because if she wasn't making a living at it herself, there's no way she could keep the salon open.  If the jury bought that, they really were just feeling, not thinking because it doesn't even make sense.  Maybe she's not making as much of a profit as she could, but if she's not making a decent profit for herself, she'd not keeping the doors open or keeping a roof over her own head.  If they were concerned about someone being broke and needing a break, they should have been voting for Ben, who wanted to help out his parents and a non-profit he believed in as well as trying to get his own musical carer going.

Liz was a legend in her own mind. I'm pleased for Kenzie, I think she's a nice person, she sure won me over
Any of the three could have won, I wasn't rooting for any one really.

Charlie went at it too analytically, whereas Kenzie was just herself, spoke from the heart.

Tired, hungry , sleep deprived,  they were all so emotional, I would have been.

Maria voting for Kenzie , I think she was pissed off Charlie lasted longer than her. Sore loser imho. Charlie was definitely very hurt. I think  if the roles were reversed,  Charlie  would have kept his word and voted for Maria.

I did find truth in that to be honest.  If she is doing a booth rental model and is only charging enough to cover rent/utility/laundry costs she is likely not making a ton of money. She did say any person looking at her business model would think she was nuts.  She can charge a stylist any given price weekly/monthly and no matter if they make a hundred or a thousand dollars a day she would see none of that. I am willing to bet that all her profit is her own service income.  Booth rental is a great way to say you have your own business and have others cover operating costs... in turn they too can say they own their own business, get a good foothold in the industry, and benefit from being part of an established salon.  The pandemic hit salons hard and many had to rethink how they did do business, so yeah I did find a lot of truth in what she was saying.  

Oh wow. Poor Charlie. That sounds horrible. Yeah, I dislike her too. That's torturous.

So, "if" anyone is interested there was a Maria Interview that I enjoyed reading. (Sorry Rob has a Podcasts are too long for me today.)

Here is an interesting part that I had wondered about (whether she was bitter toward Charlie for making moves even before she did.).

EW: I don't know how much he told you before voting you out at final five or if it came to you later at Ponderosa, but what was your reaction when you heard that Charlie was coming for you at the same time you were gunning for Charlie?

Q wanted Charlie out for the longest  time.. Do I think he changed his vote? I don't  think he'd   of voted for Charlie.. Qs  vote  wasn't about the game of Survivor,  or who played  it the best. Tiffany was honest in her vote. I'm not mad Kenzie  won, I'm disappointed for Charlie. 

Me too FannyMare. That's exactly how I feel.

Charlie said that the real reason (she was voting for him when she left, but changed her mind after being at Ponderosa) was because of something at Ponderosa. Someone got to her, and that changed her completely.
I think She was a bitter juror because of it. Liz voting for Charlie was (I think) also a bitter vote because of Kenzie making fire. So, in a way, they cancelled each other. Which makes it easier for me to accept that Kenzie won. She still had 4 votes to his 2. 

I honestly didn’t have a problem with Liz helping Kenzie. I thought it was a strategic move.