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Post by FannyMare on Apr 1, 2020 15:06:19 GMT
They are letting inmates out of the jails here, but just the minor crimes, possession etc. If the DA or the Judge feels they are a danger to society then no, they aren't getting out. I can't imagine anyone letting someone like him out. I am on board with the house him with Cosby and Weinstein idea. Who do we contact to make that happen? Can you let me know, and I don't even live there. They are letting petty criminals out here, it had better be very petty!!!
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Post by Kao on Apr 1, 2020 16:28:08 GMT
They are doing the same here and it's for non-violent non-sexual offenses only. R. Kelly definitely didn't fit that criteria.
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Post by dagwood on Apr 2, 2020 2:41:07 GMT
They are letting inmates out of the jails here, but just the minor crimes, possession etc. If the DA or the Judge feels they are a danger to society then no, they aren't getting out. I can't imagine anyone letting someone like him out. I am on board with the house him with Cosby and Weinstein idea. Who do we contact to make that happen? Can you let me know, and I don't even live there. They are letting petty criminals out here, it had better be very petty!!! Non violent only. And not people who have been sentenced just those that are still in the court process.
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Post by Critical on Apr 2, 2020 5:01:42 GMT
In CA, it's non-violent offenders and those who are within 60 days of their parole date. They're not just wholesale releasing everyone.
I'd be down with several of those scummy predators sharing a cell at Rikers and just letting nature take its course.
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Post by momrek06 on May 5, 2020 15:37:40 GMT
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Post by Kao on May 5, 2020 20:46:04 GMT
R. Kelly is still trying to get out of jail. His lawyer filed an appeal for him for the third time, this time saying he's now prediabetic and in danger should he get the virus...I can't possibly make this up!
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Post by dagwood on May 7, 2020 14:25:53 GMT
R. Kelly is still trying to get out of jail. His lawyer filed an appeal for him for the third time, this time saying he's now prediabetic and in danger should he get the virus...I can't possibly make this up! Then they can isolate him. Problem solved.
He really is clueless, isn't he?
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Post by MissScarlet on May 8, 2020 20:41:06 GMT
R. Kelly is still trying to get out of jail. His lawyer filed an appeal for him for the third time, this time saying he's now prediabetic and in danger should he get the virus...I can't possibly make this up! Then they can isolate him. Problem solved.
He really is clueless, isn't he?
Yeah, Solitary Confinement would work just fine.
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Post by momrek06 on May 20, 2020 1:31:46 GMT
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Post by acookertv on May 20, 2020 2:06:28 GMT
Anyone who wants to write off Matt Lauer because he’s Matt Lauer should read the critique of Farrows reporting that he cites from The NY Times. It’s damning. I’ve thought for a while that Farrow was a high class gossip writer and shameless self promoter. The revelations of how much from his writing was not properly fact checked is not pretty.
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Post by Kao on May 20, 2020 2:24:13 GMT
Didn't a lot of women come forward saying that Lauer sexually harassed them? They can't all be lying... Anyway, another judge turned down R. Kelly's latest bid for freedom. Upon hearing he was pre-diabetic, the judge ruled that he should stay put but his diet should change and he be given more opportunities to exercise and lose weight while in jail.
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Post by acookertv on May 20, 2020 10:46:18 GMT
Didn't a lot of women come forward saying that Lauer sexually harassed them? They can't all be lying... Anyway, another judge turned down R. Kelly's latest bid for freedom. Upon hearing he was pre-diabetic, the judge ruled that he should stay put but his diet should change and he be given more opportunities to exercise and lose weight while in jail. Harassment, yes. And in the mediaite piece, he accepts responsibility for that and admits that he was wrong. What he's taking issue with is Farrow's claim that he raped Brooke Nevils.
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Post by Critical on May 20, 2020 17:27:43 GMT
Yeah, I'm not going to trust the word of the accused rapist/sexual predator - there were rumors about Lauer for YEARS before Brooke finally came forward. He's desperate and grasping because he knows his career is over. Same as Harvey Weinstein and Kevin Spacey. He can say whatever he wants, but that doesn't make it true. It says something when NONE of your co-workers defend you and, in fact many of them admit they aren't surprised by the allegations (at least the ones who aren't worried about their contract with NBC). His creepy comments to various female celebrities he interviewed over the years, the constant pinching of Katie Couric's butt (which she talked about), the LONG rumored affair with Natalie Morales, his maneuvering to get Ann Curry fired....not a nice guy. He strikes me as the type who thinks ALL women want to sleep with him. IIRC, he thought the rape of Brooke Nevils was consensual sex
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Post by acookertv on May 20, 2020 18:04:10 GMT
Brooke Nevils admits that she had consensual sex with Lauer on multiple occasions.
I don't think that the story being told here should be lost because of other stories about Matt Lauer. Two things can be true - Matt Lauer can be a pig who used his position to get women to sleep with him AND Ronan Farrow can be a shoddy reporter. Farrow is a very educated and smart guy - but his educational training was not in journalism. His strengths are not in understanding the investigative process.
Regardless of the pigs the stories he's reported on, the process matters. Throughout all of this, accusers have been fighting the perception by many, and the defense offered by several predators, that anyone can say anything to a reporter and it will get published. In most cases, that's BS. The book written by Megan Twohey and Jody Kantor about their reporting on Harvey Weinstein shows how deep they had to dive to get that story - and how much was left unreported because they could not sufficiently verify it.
If people like Ronan Farrow get away with failing to corroborate stories and verify sources it hurts reporting on the subject overall by giving credence to the "they'll print anything" defense. Until i see anyone refute the claims that Farrow and Hachette failed to properly fact check with something more than a "trust me, we fact checked" tweet, Matt Lauer being a pig does not matter. Two bad things can happen at the same time, and in top tier journalism the ends does not justify the means.
ETA - on the point about co-workers not coming to his defense - when Meredith Vierra was attacked for not coming out against him loudly enough or quickly enough, I think it was made pretty clear to people that anyone who wanted to defend him would not be heard with open ears. So I'm not sure that those defending or those who didn't speak out loudly against him are really an indication of anything.
I don't that Matt Lauer is a good guy. I don't think he's the kind of guy I'd be proud to take home to mom, nor would I ever date him. But none of that means that EVERY bad thing said about him must be true. There are varying degrees of being an a-hole.
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Post by lonnie on Jun 18, 2020 0:06:46 GMT
Actor Danny Masterson has been charged with raping three different women
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Post by waywyrd on Jun 18, 2020 1:15:38 GMT
Actor Danny Masterson has been charged with raping three different women Took long enough.
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Post by Critical on Jun 18, 2020 2:46:03 GMT
Actor Danny Masterson has been charged with raping three different women Took long enough. Right? It's about d@mned time. I wonder if his pal Ashton will stand by him now
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Post by Kao on Jun 18, 2020 13:56:00 GMT
Good. There's been everything from rumours to flat-out statements against him. 3 million dollar bail too, which shows they are taking it seriously. Apparently the count is higher but if he just gets it for these three I will be satisfied.
I wonder if Bijou is going to continue to stand by her man by shaming the victims again? She's gross.
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Post by Critical on Jun 18, 2020 19:36:17 GMT
Good. There's been everything from rumours to flat-out statements against him. 3 million dollar bail too, which shows they are taking it seriously. Apparently the count is higher but if he just gets it for these three I will be satisfied. I wonder if Bijou is going to continue to stand by her man by shaming the victims again? She's gross. I feel the same way about Bijou standing by DM as I do about Alison Brie standing by both Dave Franco AND his brother. I used to like Alison, but then all the stories about the Franco brothers started coming to light and I wondered what the hell was wrong with her that she’d not only marry, but stay with and defend someone like that.
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Post by acookertv on Jun 19, 2020 2:23:14 GMT
Good. There's been everything from rumours to flat-out statements against him. 3 million dollar bail too, which shows they are taking it seriously. Apparently the count is higher but if he just gets it for these three I will be satisfied. I wonder if Bijou is going to continue to stand by her man by shaming the victims again? She's gross. I feel the same way about Bijou standing by DM as I do about Alison Brie standing by both Dave Franco AND his brother. I used to like Alison, but then all the stories about the Franco brothers started coming to light and I wondered what the hell was wrong with her that she’d not only marry, but stay with and defend someone like that. I think that’s easy. To me, it’s the same as Katie Couric being reluctant to come out strongly against Matt Lauer. With each of these men, we only know what is reported in the news, especially the worst parts. They know ALOT more about each man, and judge from the entire picture. I know a woman whose son is a convicted serial killer. She still visits him in prison monthly and talks about him with love. I can’t relate ... but I don’t know all the other things about him aside from his crimes. She does.
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Post by dagwood on Jun 22, 2020 19:25:17 GMT
Plus I think it's different when you are a parent. You still love your kids when they are naughty. I know murder is a little beyond naughty but it is the same concept. You are able to separate the person from what they have done.
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Post by queens on Jun 24, 2020 1:23:18 GMT
Ron Jeremy... need I say more
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Post by MissScarlet on Jun 25, 2020 3:11:15 GMT
Plus I think it's different when you are a parent. You still love your kids when they are naughty. I know murder is a little beyond naughty but it is the same concept. You are able to separate the person from what they have done. I've never been there myself, but I know a woman who has. Her daughter has been in & out of the pen and every time she's out, it's just a matter of time. It's all drug related, although many other crimes have come from this, some violent. She goes back to all her old habits, and friends/acquaintances every time. Every time her mother thinks this will be the time she gets her act together, but it never works. The daughter is somewhere close to 50, so the patterns/habits are pretty well set. Every time, the mother is crushed all over again. I think when it's your own loved one, the love wins out over the crime. You just don't want to believe the worst, so you don't.
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Post by dagwood on Jun 29, 2020 19:43:31 GMT
Plus I think it's different when you are a parent. You still love your kids when they are naughty. I know murder is a little beyond naughty but it is the same concept. You are able to separate the person from what they have done. I've never been there myself, but I know a woman who has. Her daughter has been in & out of the pen and every time she's out, it's just a matter of time. It's all drug related, although many other crimes have come from this, some violent. She goes back to all her old habits, and friends/acquaintances every time. Every time her mother thinks this will be the time she gets her act together, but it never works. The daughter is somewhere close to 50, so the patterns/habits are pretty well set. Every time, the mother is crushed all over again. I think when it's your own loved one, the love wins out over the crime. You just don't want to believe the worst, so you don't. I work in the Public Defender's office and I see it all. From parents who wipe their hands of their kids to the ones who don't believe their babies would ever do something like that. Most of them are just resigned to what is happening but they still love them. They realize the kids need to take their lumps in order to learn.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Jul 1, 2020 19:49:57 GMT
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Post by moviememories on Jul 8, 2020 22:52:37 GMT
Mary kay Letourneau passed away. She is well known for raping a 12 year old boy while she was a sixth grade teacher in the 1990's. Her initial sentence was for only six months of jail time. Afterwards, she left her husband and later on married the kid that she raped.
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Post by Kao on Jul 9, 2020 7:30:11 GMT
Mary kay Letourneau passed away. She is well known for raping a 12 year old boy while she was a sixth grade teacher in the 1990's. Her initial sentence was for only six months of jail time. Afterwards, she left her husband and later on married the kid that she raped. Thank you very much for using the word "rape" rather than "seduced" like most of the media has because that's exactly what she did to him. Good riddance to bad rubbish; I hope that Villi and all of her children are finally able to heal.
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Post by Amy Lee on Jul 9, 2020 18:19:07 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Jul 15, 2020 2:17:08 GMT
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Post by momrek06 on Jul 21, 2020 19:28:52 GMT
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