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Post by FannyMare on Sept 13, 2018 21:30:51 GMT
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Post by Critical on Sept 13, 2018 21:43:43 GMT
Oprah isn't necessarily defending Harvey. She's just conspicuous by her silence. Many - including Seal - have called her out for it. They've been photographed acting all buddy-buddy at lots of events and are rumored to have been fairly good friends (as good a friends as anyone can be in show business, I guess). When the allegations first came out, she released a statement about needing time to process everything. I don't think she's spoken out about it since then.
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 13, 2018 21:51:16 GMT
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Post by Critical on Sept 14, 2018 7:18:17 GMT
Maybe they didn't have slumber parties and braid each others hair, but they did have a quite close business relationship over several decades and were photographed MANY times looking pretty cozy. Apparently, there were also small private parties where both were in attendance. This wasn't a casual acquaintance thing... dailycaller.com/2018/01/08/oprahs-has-a-history-with-harvey-weinstein-photos/"Bully" seems a pretty mild label to pin on HW, in light of everything he did. It seems the actual very least she could have done. |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 14, 2018 12:38:06 GMT
Julie Chen Says ‘I’m Julie Chen Moonves’ During First CBS Appearance After Husband’s Ouster www.yahoo.com/news/julie-chen-says-m-julie-023027287.htmlWell, I guess we now know where Julie stands. I've always assumed that Julie loves Moonves very much, but I'm still surprised by her stalwart public support of his horrendous actions, and disappointed, and a little saddened by it. I just hope that IN PRIVATE she's giving him Hell!!!! 
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 14, 2018 14:26:04 GMT
Julie Chen Says ‘I’m Julie Chen Moonves’ During First CBS Appearance After Husband’s Ouster www.yahoo.com/news/julie-chen-says-m-julie-023027287.htmlWell, I guess we now know where Julie stands. I've always assumed that Julie loves Moonves very much, but I'm still surprised by her stalwart public support of his horrendous actions, and disappointed, and a little saddened by it. I just hope that IN PRIVATE she's giving him Hell!!!! I agree Imperfect1Julie almost seemed smug to me last night watching the end of BB. Like in her mind all she kept thinking about through the whole show was " just you all wait to the last second of this show, I will tell you loud and clear where I stand" .... #ugh I do not believe for one minute that Julie was not aware of LM's PAST behavior. ESP with the #MeToo movement. Are we to believe that LM and Julie never ever discussed it??? Come on, Julie, have you stuck your head in the sand because now the shoe is on the other foot and its your husband resigning from CBS due to allegations of sexual abuse that TPTB have obviously found credible. Julie YOUR show was always about Women Empowerment .... not what are your plans as far as THE VIEW??? |
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 14, 2018 14:28:43 GMT
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Post by annabanana on Sept 14, 2018 14:34:39 GMT
I wonder what CBS' next move will be. Julie has clearly drawn the line in the sand with that not-so-subtle statement. It seemed pretty calculated to me - especially since she called the evicted house guest Brent instead of his name Brett just ahead of her statement.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 14, 2018 14:58:42 GMT
I wonder what CBS' next move will be. Julie has clearly drawn the line in the sand with that not-so-subtle statement. It seemed pretty calculated to me - especially since she called the evicted house guest Brent instead of his name Brett just ahead of her statement. OMG OMG annabanana I thought she did ....... and then I said no, I did not hear her right ........ so after all this time that Brett has been on BB and she decides to screw up his name.   WHAT THE HECK was that all about???  |
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Post by acookertv on Sept 14, 2018 15:20:37 GMT
I think the wrong name could have been nerves instead of a decision. I also think this hints that Julie may not be a strong feminist, just because Sara Gilbert is and she created The Talk. There are women out there who have a more traditional “woman is subservient to her husband” view on life and Julie may be one of them. In truth I think The Talk has always been a lot more mild than the View in terms of empowering women. Maybe Les put Julie there to keep it that way so they didn’t become outspoken women like Linda Bloodworth Thomason.
I won’t fault Julie for standing by her husband. I won’t fault her if she sees women as less of partners to men than I do. I just won’t see her as a credible voice empowering women. But if I’m being honest I can’t say I’ve ever seen her in that way anyway. Proud of her family heritage and culture, yes. Outspoken feminist, no. Maybe she’s always been telling us who she is and we just weren’t listening.
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Post by annabanana on Sept 14, 2018 15:22:54 GMT
I wonder what CBS' next move will be. Julie has clearly drawn the line in the sand with that not-so-subtle statement. It seemed pretty calculated to me - especially since she called the evicted house guest Brent instead of his name Brett just ahead of her statement. OMG OMG annabanana I thought she did ....... and then I said no, I did not hear her right ........ so after all this time that Brett has been on BB and she decides to screw up his name. WHAT THE HECK was that all about??? I think nerves perhaps. I believe she was so focused on saying her "Julie Chen Moonves" that she slipped with Brett's name. She seems to always be on top of the game, but I suppose she was a bit distracted. (Some of the comments on twitter about the Brent slip are quite humorous.) |
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 14, 2018 15:34:17 GMT
I think the wrong name could have been nerves instead of a decision. I also think this hints that Julie may not be a strong feminist, just because Sara Gilbert is and she created The Talk. There are women out there who have a more traditional “woman is subservient to her husband” view on life and Julie may be one of them. In truth I think The Talk has always been a lot more mild than the View in terms of empowering women. Maybe Les put Julie there to keep it that way so they didn’t become outspoken women like Linda Bloodworth Thomason. I won’t fault Julie for standing by her husband. I won’t fault her if she sees women as less of partners to men than I do. I just won’t see her as a credible voice empowering women. But if I’m being honest I can’t say I’ve ever seen her in that way anyway. Proud of her family heritage and culture, yes. Outspoken feminist, no. Maybe she’s always been telling us who she is and we just weren’t listening. BUT after all these years she has had her own show with a table full of women coming and going ...... ya, maybe AT FIRST however many years ago The Talk started she was NOT a strong feminist BUT sheesh, over time you don't think Julie jumped on the WOMEN EMPOWERMENT STRONG FEMINIST wagon?!?!? Esp when she sits with the likes of SARA and SHARON for yearssssssssss!!!!! I completely see her supporting her husband if that is what she wants by quietly moving away from The Talk like she did this week. But to END BB like she did last night was ridiculous. She has called herself JULIE CHEN her ENTIRE career. Now LM is accused by at least 6 women of sexual abuse and has resigned from CBS and Julie wants to say what she did last night........... I would have way more respect for her had she hosted BB Live as she did and ended like she started the show with Julie Chen. |
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 14, 2018 16:00:29 GMT
I think it's totally up to Julie. What she calls herself, where she goes from here.. I'm not sure I respect her one way or the other. I just liked her on BB, she is often very funny.
Poor Brett, he had to hear his name wrong.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 14, 2018 16:01:15 GMT
acookertv annabananaI agree. It must have been nerves when she said Brent. My hubby's name is Brett and he gets called Brent, Bert and Brad allot. He just laughs it off.
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Post by lonnie on Sept 14, 2018 17:42:31 GMT
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 16, 2018 13:39:59 GMT
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Post by Bearcata on Sept 17, 2018 3:52:02 GMT
Not surprised something like this came up. What I don't like are the stupid tweets about the accusation. This is a political appointment, there will be mud slinging from both sides. I don't like it when either party uses an accusation of sexual assault this way and then opponents used tweets to make jokes about it. This like our Presidents tweets about the death toll in Puerto Rico should never have been brought up and but they were. In that case folks should know better and consider the source and "Let It Go". |
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Post by Critical on Sept 17, 2018 5:02:39 GMT
The very fact that they had statements from 65 women at the ready once that accusation was made public is beyond suspicious. They KNEW what he's done. Sorry, but I absolutely believe the accusation had a place in his confirmation hearing. That is a lifetime appointment to the most important court in the country and the character and morals of the appointee should be a factor.
I've read comments about the Kavanaugh accusation and others that happened many years ago and many people say that something done in youth shouldn't be used to judge an adult. Sorry, but prisons are full of people who made bad decisions in their youth. You don't get a free pass because you're young. MANY people make snap foolish decisions that affect the rest of their lives. That's just what happens. You have to live with it. It doesn't matter how long it's been since someone was assaulted, harassed, etc. The perpetrator shouldn't just get to live their life with no consequences. Frankly, I don't even care if the perpetrator has passed. They shouldn't get to rest in peace while the victims suffer.
There's still such a double standard about this stuff. That little scumbag rapist at Stanford (deliberately not using his name) has tried every bs trick in the book to have his conviction overturned. The very idea that the judge gave him a lighter sentence because this would affect him for the rest of his life.....HE RAPED AN UNCONSCIOUS WOMAN. He deserves to have that affect him for the rest of his life. Of course, they didn't mention that his actions would also affect his victim for the rest of HER life.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 17, 2018 6:18:48 GMT
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 17, 2018 6:27:26 GMT
Unfortunatley, we live in a society in which the 'hot high school teacher' fantasy prevails over the reality that sexual assault is occurring. It is a terrible double standard that p(sses me off. Not only because these female teachers don't receive the same punishment as their male counterparts, but because , in some ways, male victims are not thought of as victims at all. They are considered lucky. They scored with the hot teacher! T The whole 'wow, man you scored with the teacher.' But, lots of boys at that age are just as messed up by it as girls. But, unlike girls, we've taught boys that if they talk about how they really feel about these sexual assaults, they aren't being all cool, like a real man would act. There are plenty of guys who are uncomfortable with having sex at that age, even with girls who are as young as they are. They aren't ready and in studies they've said they've felt pressured by girls into having sex, when they absolutley don't want to. So, imagine some woman messing with you. I agree, its a terrible double standard that causes harm to the victims. |
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 17, 2018 8:42:42 GMT
I think any women who stands bya husband that has sexually assaulted others is worthy of contempt. It is horrible. It's like those freaky serial killer groupies who went to Ted Bundys trial and The Night Stalkers trial. These women were convinced two serial killers were either innocent or misunderstood-the swooned over them. In both cases, Bundy and Ramirez each married one of their groupies.
And there's Julie Chen, proudly calling herself Chen-Moonves;not because it's some random choice she made that day-but because she made a calculated decision to prove her twisted allegiance to Moonves as she's never called herself Chen-Moonves before.
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 17, 2018 8:50:03 GMT
This occurred back in May. The DA declined to prosecute Scott Baio over allegations he sexually assaulted his co-star Nicole Elgart, when Eggart was underage. However, the D,A, found Eggert very credible-they felt, had the statute of limitations not run out they definitely had a strong case against him. www.tmz.com/2018/05/23/d-a-nicole-eggert-credible-scott-baio-no-prosecution-sexual-assault-statute-limitations/Baio, meanwhile, spun it this way: that he's innocent-that not being prosecuted proves that(smh) . So, now he's trying to successfully sue Nicole Eggert. What a jerk. He should be thanking the statutes of limitation laws from keeping him out of jail. |
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Post by betty80 on Sept 18, 2018 1:21:31 GMT
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Post by Amy Lee on Sept 18, 2018 2:37:04 GMT
trib.al/l76Cgk4Julie Chen Will Leave The Talk: Report Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk
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Post by FannyMare on Sept 18, 2018 3:04:11 GMT
trib.al/l76Cgk4Julie Chen Will Leave The Talk: Report Sent from my SAMSUNG-S7 using Tapatalk I don't think there was any doubt she'd leave, given what has transpired... |
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Post by acookertv on Sept 18, 2018 9:51:25 GMT
I had some doubt. I'm not shocked, but a little surprised. Had she stayed, she would have made a statement against all the whispers that she only had her job because she married to him ... and she'd have a voice on the network to support him as needed.
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Post by momrek06 on Sept 18, 2018 17:50:39 GMT
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Post by Brooks on Sept 18, 2018 19:35:55 GMT
As far as Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh, it’s looking like it could just be revenge for his mother Martha, as the presiding judge, having foreclosed on Ford’s family home 13 years after the “incident”. Go to the Maryland Judiciary Case Search Criteria page: casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/ Enter case number 156006V and click on Get Case. [mod edit] |
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Post by Imperfect1 on Sept 19, 2018 1:59:06 GMT
As far as Ford’s allegations against Kavanaugh, it’s looking like it could just be revenge for his mother Martha, as the presiding judge, having foreclosed on Ford’s family home 13 years after the “incident”. Go to the Maryland Judiciary Case Search Criteria page: casesearch.courts.state.md.us/casesearch/ Enter case number 156006V and click on Get Case. [mod edit] I sincerely doubt it. She told her psychiatrist (and others) about the trauma she suffering from Cavenaugh's attempted rape and being roughed up and manhandled by him, YEARS AGO --- BEFORE Cavenaugh's proposed S.C. appointment ever occurred. |
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Post by redsoxgirl on Sept 19, 2018 11:31:23 GMT
From The Washington Post;
Kavanaugh’s accuser thought her life would be upended. She was right. www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/kavanaugh’s-accuser-thought-her-life-would-be-upended-she-was-right/ar-BBNwWsq?ocid=spartanntpAt 10:28 Tuesday morning, a Twitter account with a white nationalist talking point for its handle posted Christine Blasey Ford’s personal address. The account called for “peaceful protests” at Ford’s home in Northern California over her accusation that Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh sexually assaulted her at a party in the early 1980s when they were teenagers. The allegation was a “hoax” orchestrated by the “deranged left,” the account tweeted. This was at least the third time a Twitter user had “doxed” Ford — posted her personal information online — since she revealed her identity to The Washington Post and accused President Trump’s Supreme Court nominee of sexual assault. Within hours of coming forward, Ford faced attacks on her privacy and credibility, confirming the fears she had expressed about what would happen if she went public and echoing the backlash faced by other accusers in the #MeToo era.Kavanaugh’s supporters have raised questions about her motives, pointing to her status as a registered Democrat and her decision to hire an attorney while her story was still a secret. Others have highlighted details that are missing from Ford’s account of the alleged assault, including the date of the party and the exact location where it took place. “The problem is, Dr. Ford can’t remember when it was, where it was, or how it came to be,” Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Tex.) told reporters at the Capitol on Tuesday. “There are some gaps there that need to be filled.” Influential conservatives outside Congress have also aggressively questioned Ford’s account. The opinion pages of the Wall Street Journal included three pieces skeptical of her story on Tuesday. One called it a “calculated political ambush.” “This is a case of an alleged teenage encounter . . . brought forward to ruin Mr. Kavanaugh’s reputation for partisan purposes,” the editorial stated.
Another story that took off on Twitter related to Kavanaugh’s mother, a state judge in Maryland, who was once involved in a foreclosure case against Christine Blasey Ford’s parents.
The connection “could explain motive or fuel conspiracy,” conservative columnist Eric Erickson tweeted Monday.
Lawyers for Ford said in a statement that she had “no knowledge” of the case until this week and that Kavanaugh’s mother made a ruling that was favorable to Ford’s parents.
Ford and her family have moved out of their home as a security precaution, and she and her husband are staying apart from their two children. “She’s spending her time trying to figure out the logistics of her life as it is now and how to keep herself and her family safe,” the person said. In the interview with The Post, Ford said she hesitated to speak publicly because she anticipated that her life would be upended and that Kavanaugh could be confirmed regardless. “Why suffer through the annihilation if it’s not going to matter?” she said.
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