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Post by JustJuls on Jan 28, 2019 5:47:57 GMT
She absolutely needs to. I can't take watching the same thing over and over again anyway. I get the feeling that none of them like her or what her there. And I'm starting to not blame them.
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Post by Realitychick on Jan 28, 2019 13:07:23 GMT
I struggle with Meri. She wants to do what she wants which is valid. I applaud her for being empowered and closing on the home. That is awesome. But I didn't think the other wives were attacking her when they shared how they felt. If plural marriage is about working together and being a cohesive family then they are FAR from that. I find Meri VERY defensive all the time and it seems to always be about her. The family says (now whether this is true is another story) but that they are constantly trying to let her know she is loved and supported. But Meri plays the victim a lot. I struggle with feeling empathetic to her sometimes when I think she needs to take some ownership of her part in some of the disconnect with the family. It really does seem the issues aren't about her purchasing the B&B but bigger issues and they are just tiptoeing around it. I do hope the B&B is successful. Also glad to see Meri and Mariah are getting along better.
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Post by Chickadee on Jan 31, 2019 14:53:58 GMT
She absolutely needs to. I can't take watching the same thing over and over again anyway. I get the feeling that none of them like her or what her there. And I'm starting to not blame them. Right!?!? It’s like the hamster wheel that won’t stop. It’s such manufactured drama. Here’s how real life would (or should) go: Meri: Hey I got the money for the house! Other wives: Great, let us know when the closing is scheduled and we’ll help you. Instead we have to watch all the unnecessary crying and nauseating feelings discussion. I think this this show has run its course. I think most of these plural marriage shows have run their course.
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Post by nennie on Jan 31, 2019 15:15:25 GMT
Meri needs to give it up. She is the outcast now and needs to leave and live her own life elsewhere. The same thing over and over is going on.
This family is so dysfunctional. I would be crazy living in that environment. Nothing cohesive about them but I see this with most of the plural marriage people.
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Post by libgirl2 on Feb 1, 2019 16:08:42 GMT
She absolutely needs to. I can't take watching the same thing over and over again anyway. I get the feeling that none of them like her or what her there. And I'm starting to not blame them. Right!?!? It’s like the hamster wheel that won’t stop. It’s such manufactured drama. Here’s how real life would (or should) go: Meri: Hey I got the money for the house! Other wives: Great, let us know when the closing is scheduled and we’ll help you. Instead we have to watch all the unnecessary crying and nauseating feelings discussion. I think this this show has run its course. I think most of these plural marriage shows have run their course. I have to agree. This show has gotten real stale real fast.
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Post by Imperfect1 on Feb 2, 2019 19:25:27 GMT
"...she needs to take some ownership of her part in some of the disconnect with the family. It really does seem the issues aren't about her purchasing the B&B but bigger issues and they are just tiptoeing around it. I do hope the B&B is successful. Also glad to see Meri and Mariah are getting along better." I really like Meri BUT she screwed up. BIG TIME. And that's the elephant in the room that they're NOT talking about. You're right, Realitychick. It's not about the house. MARY (emotionally) CHEATED ON KODY and nobody is saying that. They all know it. Including Mary's daughter, Mariah. But nobody will come out and just say it! And Meri has to accept full responsibility for that, and the she herself is responsible for not being a cohesive part of the family any more, since she violated the sanctity of their relationship. And in regard to the house, there's ANOTHER elephant in the room that they're NOT talking about. Meri never wanted the family members to have any ownership of her new house. That's why she asked them for a "loan" -- so that she could repay the loan, and not have to share the equity (ownership/profits) from the house or the B&B business. And once she got the money she needed on her own -- she was REALLY NOT sharing any of the house with them. But she wasn't able to come out and say that -- and the other wives weren't saying anything about that either, even assuming they figured it out. But Kody knew it!!! In his voice-over segments, he was mad as hell, and said it was all bullsh*t. And he was right.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 18, 2019 21:49:24 GMT
Yup. Spot on. It's best for all involved if Mary just move to the B&B with her mom and create a happy life for herself and the rest of the family can move on. Why do I care? 
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Post by shoequeen on Feb 28, 2019 20:04:34 GMT
Hi everyone, new user here! My name is Nadine, I've been lurking around this site for a while as a guest but decided to join you today to weigh in on Meri because she is driving me absolutely crazy! I used to feel bad for her, but as time goes on, she's just getting on my nerves. As far as her B&B, she does not even have a firm business plan, nor do I think she even knows how to run one! If that were me, taking out a big loan like that, you bet I would try to learn as much as I could even before applying for the loan. The other wives, it seems to me, had solid plans for their businesses, yet Meri couldn't even answer their questions about her's, she was just fumbling and stumbling around. Meri was getting defensive when Christine was trying to point out how having her mother stay in one room, as opposed to the caretaker's cottage, would be one less room that would bring in money. I think Meri wanted that house just because it was in her family once upon a time, which is understandable.
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Post by JustJuls on Feb 28, 2019 22:48:50 GMT
Hi Shoequeen! Welcome aboard! I think that Meri has really struggled for some time. Even before the catfishing incident. Her relationship with Kody really started going downhill imo when Robin came along. It was obvious that Kody REALLY enjoyed being with her. And then Meri gave up her position as being "first wife" when she allowed the divorce so that Robin's two kids could be adopted. This essentially pushed her towards seeking love and admiration from a stranger online. Ever since that happened I feel like she hasn't felt a part of the family (in her conversation with Christine last week ...she admitted this). She's becoming more and more independent within herself and realizing she doesn't need Kody. I feel like she wanted to do the B&B as much on her own as possible so that she didn't have to be tied to him as much. I'm actually proud of her for it. And the B&B looked great. It will probably get extra business because it's owned by her. I hope it does well for their sake. But yeah...they are all driving me crazy at this point 
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Post by annifran on Mar 1, 2019 17:26:30 GMT
Regarding Meri owning the B&B in Utah, I've never understood how she could "run it" from Las Vegas or, now, Flagstaff. Having her mother bear the load of the work, to me, is unfair. It's obvious Meri wanted the house because it was her family home and full of memories, but why not be honest and just say she wanted it for that reason?
BTW, I wonder if Meri misses her wet bar? Or if it was ever used? Oh, the drama that took place over it!
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Post by shoequeen on Mar 1, 2019 19:26:01 GMT
Hi Shoequeen! Welcome aboard! I think that Meri has really struggled for some time. Even before the catfishing incident. Her relationship with Kody really started going downhill imo when Robin came along. It was obvious that Kody REALLY enjoyed being with her. And then Meri gave up her position as being "first wife" when she allowed the divorce so that Robin's two kids could be adopted. This essentially pushed her towards seeking love and admiration from a stranger online. Ever since that happened I feel like she hasn't felt a part of the family (in her conversation with Christine last week ...she admitted this). She's becoming more and more independent within herself and realizing she doesn't need Kody. I feel like she wanted to do the B&B as much on her own as possible so that she didn't have to be tied to him as much. I'm actually proud of her for it. And the B&B looked great. It will probably get extra business because it's owned by her. I hope it does well for their sake. But yeah...they are all driving me crazy at this point  What really floored me about Kody was when Robin offered to be a surrogate mother for Meri, and Kody nixed the idea, but then went on to have another child with Robin. I felt so bad for Meri, and I think that at that point was when Meri started turning away from Kody and the family. IMO, I think she's just better off if she left the family, I think she would be a lot happier. I had noticed last season, during the parts where they were on the sofa, that she seemed downcast and really did not participate.
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Post by JustJuls on Mar 1, 2019 20:03:28 GMT
And yet she still stays....so what do we know
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Post by betty80 on Jan 5, 2020 23:03:09 GMT
I haven't kept up with the show. How can they afford to keep moving and building homes?
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Post by nennie on Jan 6, 2020 14:37:34 GMT
This bunch is one screwed up mess or it is well scripted.
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Post by annifran on Jan 7, 2020 17:48:01 GMT
While watching the premiere episode, I was tempted to yell at the TV, listening to the ridiculous situation the family has gotten into in their decision to pack up and move to Flagstaff. They now have four mortgages in Las Vegas, one house mortgage in Flagstaff, three monthly rents on houses in Flagstaff and a mortgage on the piece of land they bought in Flagstaff. Kody showed himself to be so very immature and impetuous in his decision making.
Of course, it's easy to criticize after all this took place, but they had several options they could have employed which would keep them out of this financial crunch they are now in. First off, I would NOT have bought land in Flagstaff until I moved there and became familiar with the area. It's possible the area they chose (because of a mountain view) may not be what it seems.
The timing of moving was not well thought out. They left Las Vegas in the latter part of the year and almost immediately discovered that not many people are shopping for homes during that time of the year, mainly due to upcoming holidays and the fact families with young children prefer moving during summer in order to settle their children into new schools in the fall. Christine as a real estate agent should have known this. That was a huge mistake. It also applied somewhat to their not finding ample rentals in Flagstaff in that time frame. Flagstaff's winters can be very severe.
It might have been better for one family after another to put their homes up for sale and then gradually make the move to Flagstaff when the home sold. This would have eliminated some of the double debt and provided a chunk of money as each home sold. Meri would have been the ideal person to leave first since she is alone and has fewer responsibilities than the others. It also isn't apparent to me why she needed a large two-story rental (with wet bar?) in Flagstaff. She could have rented an apartment or condo as temporary housing until their property was developed. Christine could have been the last to leave since she was acting as the real estate agent selling these homes and traveling back to Las Vegas on weekends anyway.
While I always thought the Las Vegas homes on the cul-de-sac were attractive and harmonious with one another, the new aerial view of the cul-de-sac showing the fences put up between the homes is not attractive at all. Instead of straight fences dividing the properties, they are all zig-zag and awkward looking. It's hard to understand why the fences were built in this manner and who made this decision.
I cringed when Kody and the kids jumped into the filthy pond. Very foolhardy from a health standpoint.
This season should be interesting based on the previews. Looks like Kody's idea of one big house in Flagstaff is not sitting well with the women. This is reminiscent of the big house they had in Utah that was impossible to sell. It seems he's about to replicate that mistake once again.
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Post by nennie on Jan 7, 2020 18:26:53 GMT
While watching the premiere episode, I was tempted to yell at the TV, listening to the ridiculous situation the family has gotten into in their decision to pack up and move to Flagstaff. They now have four mortgages in Las Vegas, one house mortgage in Flagstaff, three monthly rents on houses in Flagstaff and a mortgage on the piece of land they bought in Flagstaff. Kody showed himself to be so very immature and impetuous in his decision making. Of course, it's easy to criticize after all this took place, but they had several options they could have employed which would keep them out of this financial crunch they are now in. First off, I would NOT have bought land in Flagstaff until I moved there and became familiar with the area. It's possible the area they chose (because of a mountain view) may not be what it seems. The timing of moving was not well thought out. They left Las Vegas in the latter part of the year and almost immediately discovered that not many people are shopping for homes during that time of the year, mainly due to upcoming holidays and the fact families with young children prefer moving during summer in order to settle their children into new schools in the fall. Christine as a real estate agent should have known this. That was a huge mistake. It also applied somewhat to their not finding ample rentals in Flagstaff in that time frame. Flagstaff's winters can be very severe. It might have been better for one family after another to put their homes up for sale and then gradually make the move to Flagstaff when the home sold. This would have eliminated some of the double debt and provided a chunk of money as each home sold. Meri would have been the ideal person to leave first since she is alone and has fewer responsibilities than the others. It also isn't apparent to me why she needed a large two-story rental (with wet bar?) in Flagstaff. She could have rented an apartment or condo as temporary housing until their property was developed. Christine could have been the last to leave since she was acting as the real estate agent selling these homes and traveling back to Las Vegas on weekends anyway. While I always thought the Las Vegas homes on the cul-de-sac were attractive and harmonious with one another, the new aerial view of the cul-de-sac showing the fences put up between the homes is not attractive at all. Instead of straight fences dividing the properties, they are all zig-zag and awkward looking. It's hard to understand why the fences were built in this manner and who made this decision. I cringed when Kody and the kids jumped into the filthy pond. Very foolhardy from a health standpoint. This season should be interesting based on the previews. Looks like Kody's idea of one big house in Flagstaff is not sitting well with the women. This is reminiscent of the big house they had in Utah that was impossible to sell. It seems he's about to replicate that mistake once again.
Hmmmm not sure he has a whole lot of business sense at all. I think he lives by the seat of his pants and on the moment whims.
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Post by photobabe on Jan 9, 2020 2:31:27 GMT
What really annoyed me in the season premiere episode is when Cody called a meeting asking his wives what should they do about the terrible financial drain they were going through. He said something to the effect that this was a decision they had all made. Maybe I'm remembering wrong, but wasn't this Cody's idea and he talked the women into agreeing, even though they said the move should wait? And, when he asked that question of the wives did he really think they were going to have an answer?
I did enjoy the scene when they all went to the property. They seemed to be having a great time.
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Post by Punkin on Jan 29, 2020 23:23:28 GMT
I've never watched the show, I only see the promos/previews. But I come here to read your comments because it is such a soap opera. The one thing that sticks with me though, is Kody's hairdos. And the one he's sporting in this season is hilarious!
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Post by betty80 on Jan 29, 2020 23:26:54 GMT
It seems like Kody just makes family decisions based on his latest mood and everyone has to comply. He seems very selfish.
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Post by momrek06 on Jan 30, 2020 0:30:04 GMT
It seems like Kody just makes family decisions based on his latest mood and everyone has to comply. He seems very selfish. Well (IMHO) when you have four women thinking you are "God's gift to women" .... yup he is very selfish. But I am not all caught up. I am behind I think 1 episode and with that I hope all the women STAND THEIR GROUND as they each privately was telling the camera they do NOT want to all live together. PLUS what is with Kody having his own PALACE in the middle of the house????? BIZARRE. I have not see Sunday's episode yet.
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Post by nennie on Jan 30, 2020 15:51:34 GMT
Kody is delusional. Meri to me is there just because she was his original wife. I bet when this series ends she will split tail and get out of it. Robin wasn't happy with the decision on taking less for her home. I watch the show in spurts. Can't take a whole hour of them.
I realize the women aren't beauty queens but man they could have done better than Kody IMO. I have to make myself say what I see as beauty and God sees as beauty is two different things. We are all beautiful in God's eyes but mine have cataracts sometimes and I don't see it.
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Post by l144s on Jan 31, 2020 0:47:07 GMT
Robin wasn't happy about taking less, but she also took and extra 6 months to move out and put her house on The market.
What on earth does Meri need with a 4 bedroom house? Especially if she is traveling. Rent a room, stay with a wife when it is time for shooting episodes. For that matter rent a room for family gatherings. It has to cost less than the rental.
I think Christine likes being a single mom with a boyfriend that drops by.
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Post by provenceguy on Jan 31, 2020 1:25:38 GMT
Has Christine lost weight? I'm not watching & have only seen the commercials.
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Post by l144s on Jan 31, 2020 11:25:38 GMT
Has Christine lost weight? I'm not watching & have only seen the commercials. She has. She is the skinny wife right now. I think she looks great, which is what prompted my comment above.
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Post by photobabe on Jan 31, 2020 15:15:57 GMT
I just got caught up. Yikes! Kody is a selfish idiot and Janelle is NOT a smart realtor. Although I have been out of real estate for a long time I was an agent for 12 years. Janelle should have 1. priced the houses correctly from the beginning. 2. Suggested a price reduction at 6 or at no more than 12 weeks. 3. Kept enough furniture back to stage the houses. 4. Stop assuming the houses are going to sell via an open house. That rarely happens. There are 2 reasons Realtors have open houses. One is to placate the seller, the other is to pick up buyers.
Also, having four vacant houses on one cul de sac doesn't look good. In fact, to potential buyers it may seem a bit creepy.
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Post by lilymax on Mar 24, 2020 19:48:33 GMT
When is this show ending???
Wtf? I thought Meri wanted away from these ppl to do her own thing in Utah? Didn't she buy a big house there? What made them move to Flagstaff? They didn't live in those huge Vegas houses for long did they? Wtf makes them think that a smaller community with probably more conservative views in general would welcome them with open arms? and where did they get the money to buy land? None of the questions I have always had have ever been answered. How do they make a living? Does anybody work? Cody appears to go from house to house and wife to wife...is that his "job"?
Obviously they get money from TLC, but how much? And what is with Meri and these huge houses she doesn't need? She's pretty much single as far as I can see. Now they want to build one big house for all of them, when all the time they have seemed to indicate that each wife needs her own home? These women are going to be unhappy with all of this, and that's probably the key. They want the drama to keep the show going.
Kody tries to make sense out of his stupid decisions, but he never makes any sense. He's a disgusting pig as far as I am concerned, and these women could all have done better. I think the lovey dovey Robin is even beginning to be over it.
I do believe in freedom of religion, but I fail to see how any adult thinking human with half a brain could ever think that in this day and age, their lifestyle is the only way to "heaven". I see a group of ppl who without TLC would be on the street. Or maybe all of them might have real jobs? The kids seem nice, but having that many kids is not really a good thing with our world in the shape it is. These adults are purely selfish.
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Post by lilymax on Mar 24, 2020 20:50:37 GMT
Oh, I get it now. Kody stripping down to his pasty white skin and playing "he-man" for the cameras is his best "Dad" moment." So that justifies it, folks! This is their land! Gag me! Pls keep your clothes on, Kody. all of them.
One more thing and I'm out. Please stfu about how many mortgages you are paying, or any other financial concerns. Every episode so far we hear it. And I just saw Meri's house, which is bigger than any house my family ever lived in! Meri doesn't need that big of a house! Why is she not living in a fricking apartment or something with one or two bedrooms and two baths at the most? Wouldn't that cut down on expenses?
Meri must be independently wealthy. That must be why Kody keeps her around.
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Post by lilymax on Mar 25, 2020 1:21:45 GMT
I'm watching way too much of this at one time lol. Why does Kody want to talk these ppl into living in one huge house? I can totally understand why Christine doesn't want it. She does like being on her own, whether she knows it or not. if Kody left she'd be fine. He made it all about him, because of his huge ego. I don't think you're that hot, dude. Shutup. Christine likes having a hubby that isn't around all the time. I can totally relate.
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Post by annifran on Mar 25, 2020 16:12:40 GMT
As I watched the most recent show, it appears the whole family is imploding, even newbie Robin. As several have mentioned previously, their making a move from Las Vegas to Flagstaff in the manner that they did was the worst mistake they could have made. No thought or planning whatsoever. They had a reasonably happy lifestyle in Las Vegas. Everything has been unraveling since then, relationships and finances.
I wonder how they're doing during this economic downturn due to the coronavirus. They were already on a shaky slope before the current events affecting all of us.
I agree--Kody, keep your clothes on. Disgusting in front of the cameras and the children.
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Post by nennie on Mar 25, 2020 17:56:14 GMT
This is just a screwed up bunch of people led by a moron, Kody. He doesn't have a lick of sense most of the time and these ladies need to give him the boot. They could do much better on their own. It seems they like living the high life. Get in the real world people you ain't rich. Makes me wonder from Robin's frustration lately if she wouldn't be the one to jump ship. Wonder if Meri isn't still there simply because of the show. IF it ended wonder if she would go on her own away from them.
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