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Post by woodiedog on Nov 9, 2018 16:19:58 GMT
How ironic that Jenni and her husband just bought the house that Jeff and Gage wanted last year but couldn't afford. It looked just beautiful. And the home Jenni and her husband sold in order to be able to buy the new one was pretty darn perfect, too. It was priceless! The look on Jeff's face! You could tell he was annoyed.
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Post by woodiedog on Nov 9, 2018 16:22:34 GMT
I hate Jeff, he's mean spirited, unfair, and enjoys poking the bear. He had clients this week that were going through a divorce and he couldn't help giving them jabs.
I'm over this show. Bring on Get a Room with Carlson Kresley and Thom and Sweet Home with the designer from Oklahoma!
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Post by amber on Nov 9, 2018 23:29:40 GMT
Still, love the show regardless if Jenni remains a part of it or not. Would hate to see the Flipping Out coming to an end.
Jenni certainly isn't participating nearly as much as she has prior seasons. Although there must be some truth to storylines, if watching closely, you may notice Jeff's clients are in on the jabs, for why else is everyone grinning at subplot conclusions?
My guess is Jenni's new home purchase fed into their recent feud.
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Post by norealityhere on Nov 21, 2018 6:34:03 GMT
Hard to watch this evening. I think Jeff was extremely mean. I also think Lea Black was totally out of line. Team Jenni all the way.....
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Post by acookertv on Nov 21, 2018 12:09:50 GMT
I have always been a casual viewer of Flipping Out. I'll watch it if it's on, but had not recorded it to watch faithfully until this season. I keep up with it more via Watch What Happens Live and Jeff's show on Radio Andy. So there are no doubt many viewers who know their relationship better than me. After hearing about the big fight, I did start recording it this season and have watched faithfully. From where I sit, it seems like Lea played a significant part in the split. It felt like she kind of swooped in to play the role of loyal confidant that Jenni always had, and that created a wedge between Jeff and Jenni. I don't think it was intentional on her part, nor do I think that Jeff and Jenni really realized it was happening. But Lea suddenly offered Jeff an alternative, and got him feeling restless wanting something different in his life and looking at everything consistent as reasons that he didn't have something different. Having watched last night's episode, I still side with Jenni more than I do Jeff, but I softened a little towards Jeff's side. Jenni was going through a big "is this all there is" phase. I think that she was coming more from a place of "what did it get me to be so loyal to this guy?" but she did come across like she was blaming Jeff for the choices she's made rather than wishing she'd made different choices. I have mixed feelings about their final discussion. The part of me that wants to believe there is some good in Jeff wants to believe that he realized that Jenni could be so much more without him, and knew the best thing he could do as a friend was to push her out of the nest because she wasn't going to do it on her own. The cynical part of me believes that Jeff needed a week to think about how to look best on camera.
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Post by JoRyMom on Nov 21, 2018 16:45:41 GMT
So not a Lea Black fan. RHOM tanked for a reason. acookertv, I think you did a great job summing it all up. I see both sides, and it’s just really unfortunate. Jenni was blindsided at being let go. I guess it was after that lunch when she supposedly made the accusations of abuse to the PTB. She denies she did, but Jeff insists it happened. Who knows what’s true. Irony is, someone is lying. I hope the show continues. I’m guessing Megan came back to Jeff Lewis Design since she’s a co-host on Jeff Lewis Live. I’m just upset that the last four episodes or so....no Monroe!
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Post by amber on Nov 21, 2018 18:36:05 GMT
I think Jenni harbors some resentment for Jeff for being the early break out star of all her and Chris Elwood's reality TV efforts that led to the successful Flipping Out.
Who's lying? Jenni. Jeff, instead, has broken through the fourth wall by letting it out that Jenni hasn't worked for him for years except for Bravo paying her to be there during the filming Flipping Out. Jenni in real life is no longer working for JLD makes sense for much of this season, most notably earlier episodes, Jenni's participation lacks depth.
I didn't miss Ryan Brown one iota when he left. I still miss Zola, but not the Zola we watched during her last season or two, just as I won't miss the recent Jenni who I feel has become irrelevant. If Flipping Out is canceled I will definitely miss Jeff.
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Post by pretlitdev on Nov 21, 2018 22:29:22 GMT
I'm kind of team Jeff here. I don't believe that all these offers are flooding in for Jenni-I've seen some of her stuff and aside from not being exactly a spring chicken, she's just not that talented. I think she took out her career frustrations on Jeff, but he's right. If she actually had that big of an offer, she would have trumpeted it all over and at least used it as ammo to get out of work with Jeff later on.
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Post by momrek06 on Nov 22, 2018 1:44:32 GMT
I am not even sure I will watch. I have watched this show from DAY ONE. Through all the DRAMA they had from............ Jenni's EX being a JERK and stealing from JLD. From JLD losing "LIVING SPACES". From when JLD started their own paint line. Season BEFORE Gage. I HATE that it's come to this with Jeff and Jenni. Jeff Lewis Says He 'Regrets' Fight With Jenni Pulos: 'It Wasn't Worth Losing a Friendship Over'people.com/home/jeff-lewis-regrets-fight-jenni-pulos-not-worth-losing-friendship/The only thing I want to say is that Jeff does this over and over again. He screams and embarrasses those close to him, i.e. even employees and then REGRETS it. Whyyyyyy does he repeat this behavior over and over again ONLY to wished he had not done it to being with? There is something in his personality that he feels its OK at the time and then AFTER the fact decides it should not have happened. Bizarre.
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Post by pasnowbunny2 on Nov 22, 2018 2:31:03 GMT
Call me a skeptic but I think a ton of this "fight" was staged. Excuse me but did I miss something but what Hollywood career was Jenni talking about? She's mid 40ish...correct??? Solid A list actresses have a difficult time finding work yet I'm supposed to believe Jenni turned down a Nicholas Cage movie...nope not buying it. I do really like Jenni but somethings just defy believability. Lea Black...that woman comes on I switch channels. I just can't with that woman. I think this show has come to it's natural conclusion.
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Post by momrek06 on Nov 22, 2018 3:26:18 GMT
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Post by woodiedog on Nov 22, 2018 19:53:10 GMT
Jeff needs help. Jenni was right to warn him to not treat his daughter likes he treats everyone else. I hope Jeff isn't mean to Gage. Gage seems so subordinate to him. Gage just watches Jeff behave badly and never calls him on it. The rest of the crew acts the same way. Is everyone so afraid of losing their jobs that they sit idly by and watch Jeff degrade people?
Lea Black has "inappropriate laughing disorder." Her fits of hilarity don't match the situations. Perhaps she was trying to lighten up the stress between Jeff and Jenni, but it wasn't working and it made her look ridiculous.
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Post by acookertv on Nov 23, 2018 2:20:22 GMT
I wonder how different Jeff and Gages repaltionship is when cameras are not around. You know how a good couple won’t correct each other at a party, but on the drive home will mention something that needs to be changed? I wonder if there is not a lot of that where Gage just chooses not to speak up in front of others. Actually some of that could apply to the whole staff. The show is called Flipping Out. If they all talked back when Jeff is losing it, it would go against the premise of the show.
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Post by annab on Nov 26, 2018 6:10:44 GMT
I wouldn’t mind a season that has Jeff going to counseling while trying to grow his business. Jeff isn’t always wrong, but his delivery is the absolute worst. Maybe a counselor could help...maybe. 🤷🏻♀️
Lea needs to just be gone. Disappointed that someone who suppoedly gave a great talk couldn’t see the damage she was doing by laughing off Jenni. It was painful for me to watch.
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Post by lizard on Nov 27, 2018 13:08:26 GMT
Celebrity Leah gave a presentation to Jeff's staff with the idea to get the staff in line with Jeff's goals. Leah thought that Jeff could take it to the next level and become international. When individually questioning staff Jenni Pulos, Jenni mentioned that her number one dream was to become an actress and Jeff's jobs were blocking her ability to do this.
Jeff ended up telling Jenni that he did think he was blocking her. He thought she could be a very successful actress. And he believed he needed staff who were more invested to take him to the next level. So he let her go.
We know Jenni from Jeff's show. Jenni is a celebrity. So the show sure did not hurt Jenni. Jeff because of his personality and just because business is tough has had staff turnover from the get go. The only constant element was Jenni.
My feelings are that Jenni will be ok. She will have to go out and audition like others. She might even get projects she will be proud to call her own. Jeff will always be ok because Jeff is Jeff. Can Jeff become internationally rich? I do not know others' tastes. But I feel Jeff is doing well in the U.S. And IMHO don't think he will get much more successful here unless he branches out into marketing pet things or home things with his name on it. That branching out would not relate much to his personal gang.
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Post by amber on Nov 27, 2018 19:10:41 GMT
Jeff sees a counselor. He has for years. Every so often he seeing a counselor has been showcased. Honestly, I don't understand the big deal in that for the entire season, Jenni's participation has remained consistently flat and her turning a conversation of how to improve Jeff's business into a discussion of her acting career is, in my opinion, more of the same. However, she did become engage thereafter, didn't she ...
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Post by lizard on Nov 27, 2018 19:23:11 GMT
I could see Jenni Pulos getting a lot of jobs and being very successful.
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Post by amber on Nov 27, 2018 19:34:02 GMT
Then why hasn't she? Her greatest success is bringing Jeff Lewis in front of cameras. Her second would be becoming a ying for Jeff's yang. I keep suggesting and encourage others to watch the season back and pay attention to Jenni barely phoning it in. Absolutely Jeff is telling the truth that Jenni is only "working" at JLD while the cameras are rolling for she is barely engaged in any JLD business. That would certainly leave the rest of her time to pursue acting ... if that is what she really wants.
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Post by MFWalkoff on Nov 27, 2018 23:48:54 GMT
Then why hasn't she? Her greatest success is bringing Jeff Lewis in front of cameras. Her second would be becoming a ying for Jeff's yang. I keep suggesting and encourage others to watch the season back and pay attention to Jenni barely phoning it in. Absolutely Jeff is telling the truth that Jenni is only "working" at JLD while the cameras are rolling for she is barely engaged in any JLD business. That would certainly leave the rest of her time to pursue acting ... if that is what she really wants. She's not just Jeff's on-camera sidekick, she is an Executive Producer on the show. She pitched the show to Bravo in the first place, although her idea was to showcase her in her attempts to become a working actress while working day jobs (like for Jeff). But Bravo was so intrigued by Jeff when they met him that they tweaked the show to be more about him and the business. Jenni is a success, as a producer, there's real money in that. So why should she want to throw that away unless she gets something equally big?
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Post by amber on Nov 28, 2018 5:51:16 GMT
When Jenni and her then-husband Chris Elwood pitched their show, it was Jeff Lewis that Bravo was interested in, and not Jenni and Chris. Their show about struggling actors wasn't tweaked, it was passed over for the Bravo TV created Jeff Lewis real estate flipping show. Yes, Jenni and Jeff have been given executive producer titles for approximately half the run, but what does that really mean other than being contract negotiation titles and perhaps an additional 50 grand or so per season above episode salaries? Although I have absolutely no idea what Jeff or Jenni have been paid, I assume Jeff Lewis is being paid considerably more than Jenni for both participation and as executive producer. I'd like to point out that in earlier posts, I've said I much prefer Jenni to continue --- if the show continues, but I also believe the show can continue without her. www.imdb.com/title/tt1078394/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_ov_st_smpeople.com/home/flipping-out-jenni-pulos-jeff-lewis-origin/
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Post by JoRyMom on Jan 31, 2019 18:54:59 GMT
Jeff announced on his radio show this morning that Gage has moved out. I’m so sad! I have no doubt Jeff is very difficult to live with (and work with, and travel with, and do everything with) but Gage had stayed for 10 years, so I figured they had it worked out. Hopefully they can save their relationship for their sake and Monroe’s. people.com/home/jeff-lewis-gage-edward-move-out/
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Post by woodiedog on Jan 31, 2019 21:45:42 GMT
I am sorry to hear Gage has moved out. I thought things looked strained even last season. They are not evenly paired. Gage didn't have much in the relationship. I think Jeff had all the money and made all the rules. I hope the custody doesn't become awful. Gage is the better parent. I worry about Jeff with Monroe 24x7.
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Post by acookertv on Feb 1, 2019 2:18:11 GMT
I feel a little devastated by this. I truly thought most of their bickering was for show and affection.
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Post by provenceguy on Feb 1, 2019 2:53:13 GMT
Very sad. Jeff seems hopeful that they can work things out. Once someone moves out, though, I think they've usually reached the point of no return. Gage is such an awesome dad. I hope that he still has plenty of access to Monroe, no matter what happens.
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Post by JoRyMom on Feb 1, 2019 17:04:48 GMT
I feel a little devastated by this. I truly thought most of their bickering was for show and affection. I thought that as well. They brought it up a lot on the Sirius show, but I honestly thought they were kidding.
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Post by provenceguy on Feb 6, 2019 0:44:13 GMT
So, I wonder who Gage went out on a date with? Anyone have any intell? I don't blame him, actually. Jeff would be one difficult guy to live with, that's for sure.
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Post by Girly18 on Feb 6, 2019 15:35:54 GMT
So, I wonder who Gage went out on a date with? Anyone have any intell? I don't blame him, actually. Jeff would be one difficult guy to live with, that's for sure. A few months back on Jeff's Sirius show they both talked about how Jeff had found text messages between Gage and his trainer. Jeff accused him of having an emotional relationship and Gage deleted all the messages before Jeff could read them all. Well this is who Gage went on a date with.
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Post by momrek06 on Feb 6, 2019 16:07:54 GMT
WOW!!! I am sad too esp for MONROE. Geez, I realize JL is a pita most times but now ... to move out. It will be such a huge hole in Monroe's life. Gage appeared to ME to do so much more from DAY 1 with Monroe than JL. Even right down to shopping for all her clothes. I am more sad for Monroe than JL.
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Post by woodiedog on Feb 6, 2019 23:41:28 GMT
Jeff needs to keep his life private! He has a forum (show) to air his side of the story. Gage does not. It's turning into a high school drama. Jeff now is looking at online dating profiles because he heard Gage is dating? Really, it's so immature. For the sake of Monroe, Jeff needs to focus on being a good dad and getting along with Gage.
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Post by amber on Feb 7, 2019 9:07:07 GMT
Monroe is with Jeff and not Gage.
I didn't know Gage strayed prior to moving out. That little tidbit tilts occurrences in a different direction. Hmmm...
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